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Empiree:
I have dialogued with Christians on this platform since 2014 and I know different beliefs of you guys. Many of them believe John 14:16 is Angel Gabriel.



this is where you need to apply wisdom and tawil (interpretation). No human being lives forever, not even Angels. This means the message brought by the lady Prophet Muhammad would live forever. QUR'AN is the only Divine revelation that is not distorted today and forever. His religious practices are forever.


but you have failed to give who the comforter is. Remember some translators used "holy spirit" like you did just now. It is meant to confused reading audience. Original Greek word is not holy spirit but (periclytos) which is almost the exact translation of the Aramaic or Hebrew word (Mauhamana) used by Jesus himself, and which correlates with the name Muhammad .”.


Anyways, YES VERY TRUE John 14:16 is talking about The Beloved Prophet Muhammad and here is what approves this Ultimate Truth:

1- John 14:16

“And I will pray the Father (My Lord), and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever."

2- John14:26

”But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”


3- John 14:30

“Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.”


Again, pls note:

"The word Comforter is the English translation of the Greek word (periclytos) which is almost the exact translation of the Aramaic or Hebrew word (Mauhamana) used by Jesus himself, and which correlates with the name Muhammad .”

In verse 16,

The emphasis here is on the word "ANOTHER" an other, a different one, an additional one, but of the same kind, yet distinctly different from the first. Who is then the first Comforter?

It is very obvious that Jesus is the First Comforter; then the other, the one to follow must be of like nature subject to the same conditions of hunger, thirst, fatigue, sorrow and death. However, this promised Comforter was to "abide with you FOR EVER". No one lives for ever, Jesus was mortal so must the coming Comforter also be mortal.

No son of man can ever be immortal. "Every soul shall have a taste of death." The Holy Qur`an Sura Al-Imran : 185


But here Jesus according to this verse is telling

" ABIDE" continue , endure for ever. All Comforters are with us forever. Moses is here with us today in his teachings, Jesus is here with us in his teachings, and Muhammad also is here with us in his teachings (May the Peace and Blessings of Allah be upon them all).

Therefore we can now understand that Jesus was speaking here about: “ Muhammad “the most remarkable man that ever set foot on this earth. A man who preached a religion, founded a state, built a nation, laid down a moral code, initiated numberless social and political reforms, established a dynamic and powerful society to practice and represent his teachings, and completely revolutionized the worlds of human thought and action for all times to come.



In verse 26

Jesus {P.B.u.h.} mentions this next prophet (comforter) and calls him the Holy Ghost. The term “Holy Ghost” was used to describe, angel or scripture. That is from Allah. This term was never used to describe one particular thing or person.

So Jesus says the father "Allah" will send to this prophet (Holy Ghost).

Jesus in addition, says that this prophet will teach you things and mention my name. Prophet MUHAMMAD and his followers (the Companions May Allah be pleased with all of them), had no previous knowledge of Bible scriptures, yet Prophet Muhammad related the story of Jesus in the Holy Qur'an. Jesus also says that Prophet Muhammad (Peace be upon them all), will tell you everything that I have said to you.

Prophet Muhammad in fact, described in detail many important stories and facts about Jesus ; that were not in the New Testament. The Holy Qur'an mentions stories that the Christians did not know or could not deny.

Neither the Jews, nor any nation ever mentioned the name of Jesus, as the Muslims did. Moreover, no one has called Christians to revert to the true religion of Jesus Christ which is “Islam” except Muslims.


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John14:26

”But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.”

'Whom the father will send in my name's.......was Muhammed sent in the name of Jesus?
Why do you Muslims read these things and still argue?

The Holy Spirit is the Comforter.

Empiree:
interesting. You sure you are Christian?. Many Christians would disagree with most things you have said. You guys have great doctrinal differences.

Who are the Christians that disagree?You sure they are Christians?The Bible is the standard,the understanding differs.

So clearly i can deduce from your posts so far that Jesus is not the comforter, angel Gabriel is not the comforter, Angels on our sides are not the comforters.

Question is who is the comforter/paraclete/helper/Advocate/Counselor/Redeemer mentioned in John 14:16?. It could not be any other than prophet Muhammad (S.A.W).


Quran confirmed this 61:6


"(Remember) when ‘Īsā, son of Maryam, said, “O children of Isrā’īl, I am a messenger of Allah sent to you, confirming the Torah that is (sent down) before me, and giving you the good news of a messenger who will come after me, whose name will be AHmad.” But when he came to them with manifest signs, they said, “This is a clear magic.”


Underlined means Prophet Muhammad.

John 14:16 says And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; Again,did Muhammed abide forever?
Verse 17 gives you a clearer picture.It says, Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. Was Muhammed a spirit?Was he invisible?Again it says 'shall be in you'.Can Muhammed physically dwell inside another being?
You Muslims see these words but you just must twist it to fit your desires.

If devil dey drag you,you no suppose shame the devil?How can your own daughter be a source of lust for you?
Now you have to collect Koboko well well in hell.

Uwa mmebi.

Empiree:
describe to is how Jesus is like Moses according to Deuteronomy 18:18?. "Prophet like thee"[/b]Like I said,Jesus was a Prophet and more.He was also a Messiah and the Word of God.He occupied the office of a prophet but possessed more than a prophet.

So those Christians who believe Jesus is God and son God are wrong, correct?

Jesus is the Word of God,the Word of God is the Spirit of God The Spirit of God is God.



Holy Spirit is not a man and can't be seen.God Almighty is not a man and can't be seen.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God just as you have your spirit that is the Spirit of man.God abides forever.His Spirit abides forever and dwells with man. now you are talking. But how does this spirit here relate with the verse?.Every human being has two angels around then that record their deeds. This is not what John 14:16 is saying at all. This passage is speaking about individual. This John 14:16 is interpreted by some christians to be angel Gabriel. Do you agree with this and how?

Angel Gabriel does not abide with people forever.He stands in God's presence and is sent from time to time on errands but never abides with anyone forever so that can't be Angel Gabriel.

Empiree:
okay now seems you want to enter lecture room now. These 12 tribes you mentioned are still Israelites. I am actually happy you mentioned 12 tribes because it is gonna be useful in the future discourse. So Ismail (Ishmael) and Isiak (Isaac) are brothers. Hence Arabs and Jews are brothers.The verse was communicating to the Jews altogether and telling them of5f a prophet to emerge from their brethren (Arabs).

Ismael and Isaac are children of Abraham.However,when Moses was speaking in that scripture,he was addressing the children of Israel.He was specifically speaking to Jews.....he said 'from among your brothers.He was speaking about brothers from offsprings of Jacob who became Israel.That scripture was clear enough and can never be manipulated to address Arabs.Arabs were not in attendance when Moses spoke.I know Islam has tried to weave this but it can't work.

it is not a problem for Muslims but for you Christians because you have elevated Jesus beyond his status. Many Christians believe Jesus is God/son of God respectively United your want to deviate from your doctrines?.

Man didn't elevate Jesus.God did.
He is Prophet, Messiah,The Word of God.He fits all the roles.

okay fine. If it is 'he', who is he?. Jesus is not here if that's him you are referring to. He's gone. Also if you are referring to holy spirit, holy spirit is not a man and can't be seen. In the Bible passage in question, he's to abide with people forever. This means if he is not Jesus it can't be his message either because your don't have gospel according to Jesus. Only QUR'AN is valid Divine Book present today till the End of time

Holy Spirit is not a man and can't be seen.God Almighty is not a man and can't be seen.
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God just as you have your spirit that is the Spirit of man.God abides forever.His Spirit abides forever and dwells with man.

Empiree:
see bolded, that's a lie. This is new distortion. Of all the 50 English translated Bibles that I have only 2 were translated to israelites. Old and common translated Bibles such as KJV used brothers or brethren. Anyways, there were two prophecies in Bible. One refers to Jesus the other refers muhammad. Interestingly, this verse in Deuteronomy refers to Prophet but majority Christians believe he's God or son of God etc.This means the prophecy was not him.



oh no, not this. This was mistake, wrong reference.


Yes, who else?. His message (Quran) to abide with us forever. Quran is still here. But where is "Gospel according to Jesus"?.

This is just a brief. This last passage you quoted is more than that. We can go on and on if you want. So, "may abuse with you forever" is message of Quran brought by prophet muhammad (S. A. W)

There are 12 tribes of Israel.Those tribes are the brothers or brethren.That scripture says from 'among your brethren'.Did Muhammed come from any of those tribes?

Islam says he was a prophet,why then will that scripture not refer to Jesus?When Jesus was on the earth,the people called him a prophet and he affirmed he was.And they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us,” Luke 7:16
In John 4:19 the scripture says “The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet,” (she was talking to Jesus).He was a Prophet and more.
The woman said, “I know that Messiah” (called Christ) is coming. When he comes, he will explain everything to us.”
Then Jesus declared, “I, the one speaking to you—I am he.(vs 25 and 26).Jesus was a prophet but more than a prophet.He was also the Messiah.

That scripture didn't say 'the message will abide with you forever',it said he will abide with you forever so it was about a person not message.

Empiree:
Deuteronomy 18:15, 18, Genesis 49:10, Mark 1:7, John 14:16, 17, 26, Matthew 21:43, Isaiah 21:13-17, Song of Solomon (5:9-16),

Finally, Holy Quran:

“… Those who follow the Messenger, the Immaculate One, whom they find mentioned in the Torah and the Gospel which are with them.” Al-Quran 7:158)




And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the messenger of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of a Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!" Q61:6


These are enough for now. If you need breakdown ask. I will direct you to where you can get more info if I'm busy to explain

Deuteronomy 18:15 - The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;

Moses continued, “The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him.
Was Muhammed from the lineage of Israel?
Gen 49:10
The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Was Muhammed of Judah?

Mark 1:7
And preached, saying, There cometh one mightier than I after me, the latchet of whose shoes I am not worthy to stoop down and unloose.

8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Did Muhammed baptize with the Holy Ghost?
John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever. Did Muhammed live forever?

Empiree:
Are you Muslim, sir?. If so, I will advice you to please try to study Quran very well. This is big probl6 with Muslims in the SW. You see christians as religion brethren or elesin keji as they are called. There is no religion after Islam but people do have right to practice whatever religion they want. But the moment they die on religion other than Islam there is no way out for them.

Now, speaking about "good deeds", every human being will be rewarded for their good deeds because God is not unjust. Unbelievers who is righteous in conduct will have his reward before he is she died and there are several ways they get those reward. But all these good works they accumulated on earth are useless if they are not Muslim. Read sura Kahf from 100 to the end. This Ayat are speaking about nonmuslims that did great work for humanity such as Bill Gates, TB Joshua etc. They get their rewards in this life but their God works are useless in the life after. So Bill Gates already had his rewards. Tb Joshua too. But there is nothing left for them Hereafter.

Quran always talks about faith in Allah followed up with good deeds. Faith comes first. Good deeds without Islam is useless sura 16:97


with clear prophecies of prophet muhammad in the bible and Torah you still came up with this excuse?.



I'm not here to vilify him. He's gone but we must talk reality. This is a wake up call for Christians to wake up from their slumbers before it's too late. This was a man with fake healings, fake prophecies "In Jesus name". To even pray in Jesus name is umbilical and against the teachings of Jesus. There is nothing called Jesus. Jesus is a fictional character. The name, Jesus was invented by White men. There is nothing in Jesus name.

The Bible position stands clear on it when it says;

"In Jesus name UNBELIEVERS hope".


This is all clear as daylight that everyone that shouts or believes "in Jesus name" is an unbeliever. I was watching Daddy Freeze last night and he too rejects the words "Jesus". Jesus name is a scam. True name is Yahshua. So stop wasting your precious time with in Jesus name. Your pastors are deceiving you.

The only people that get full rewards in this life and Hereafter are the Muslims. I have nothing against TB Joshua but some facts must be told. There are lots your pastors don't preach from the bible to you guys because it doesn't suit their narrative.

@bold,can you share these prohecies with me?I want to learn.

Empiree:
I am personally not bothered by his achievements, especially his charitable contributions in Nigeria. God has duly replenished him for that in this life. He has created positive popular reviews for himself and it's all ends here in earth.

Second phase of his is life After. Whatever achievements he had before he died no longer have any meaning. It is unfortunate that he died as non-muslim. This is what matters now. He's now facing the reality. The reality is that he's now answering some serious questions in his grave or after he's buried. He will answer to God who accorded him "prophetic" title.

There shall be no more prophet after prophet muhammad (SAW). Anything after him is counterfeit. So surely without doubt, I feel sad for him. Only if he can be able to communicate with people he misled and left behind, he would tell them to be Muslim.

Once again, my condolences to the family of Temitope AbdulFatai Balogun. What a sad ending

@bold,I thought Islam teaches that your works on the earth is what will give you rewards in the hereafter?Is this statement of yours not contradicting the teachings of Islam?Is that not what Dua is about?

@second bold,that is what you believe.He doesn't believe that and died not believing that.According to the Bible he professed,there is even no prophet after Jesus.So your own position cannot judge his position.

You really should feel sad for yourself.
He is dead now and has to face his Maker.He's the One to judge man.You who is on the earth is the one to run your own race.

psilord:
More info at the link.
What? He wants to get a proper diagnosis for his condition as treatments based on the previous diagnosis have yielded no result.

Where? He has previously been with UPTH, Rivers state.

When? He has been on treatment since 2017. He would need to get the diagnosis as soon as possible.
How? The plan is to consult private psychiatric clinics in rivers state.
Who?The donate-ng team did a verification which includes KYC.

Ok,all the best to him.

Who,what,where,when,how?

COWBOYFAN:
That's what I'm saying. I do it it with your father. Terrorism is what your father into.

You don't even have a father.You come from a disjointed home hence your words.You have no regards for parents because you never really had one.Such a shame.

COWBOYFAN:
Just like your father. It's your father and I doing it together.

There's no need to trade words with you.You mentioning my father is a reflection of the kind of home you come from.Terrorists don't end well.

The Op himself is a terrorist!
His headline is meant to stir provocation.

Op,your boyfriend doesn't want to accept you?

These ones don leave church work begin chase money or position.

Romanoff:
May we not see what we never expected in Jesus name.

Amen.

Romanoff:
I've seen many good women fall victim to stingy men like this.

Being good is one thing,being smart is another.
We live in hard times now.Every good woman should also be smart.

Person go stay far from water if he no fit swim.If he fit swim sef,the area may still be dangerous.
Sad news for his family.

A life of violence and a useless one at the end of the day.
What good is there in burning police stations and killing the officers?

Romanoff:
I am married.

But I fear for the young girls these days who have to be independent before marriage only to end up marrying stingy men who dodge from responsibilities.

The younger generation are products of the decadence in the society.
Just as some men are stingy and irresponsible,are the girls better?

A good woman who is sensible enough will find the right/responsible man.

Romanoff:
Una dey gree give women money?

Una done name Nigerian girls "urgent 2k" because them dey ask una for money.

Y'all don't want the women you date to ask you for money, makes me wonder if y'all would even be generous towards your wives.

Stop dating scrubs.

He was abusive and stingy towards you but you still went ahead to have a baby for him thinking he will change?
If you are tired of being abused,then walk away.He won't change!
Report to Social Security so he is responsible for his daughter.

The wedding invitation should be Favour and Pa Austin.

Jagaban....

Marry her.
You spent enough time with her before you broke up so you know her well enough to know what she can do or not(no one is perfect though).
She may have had relationships while you were away but that isn't your problem since you were not in any relationship with her then.
This age thing doesn't really matter to me.Whether you marry a girl who is still a teenager or a matured lady,she will still get old.What is important is marrying someone still in reproductive age if you desire a child.Everything else is perception.

A girl of 16yrs really should not be having sex.

It's a common delicacy in East Africa.

Grown to love kwa?

CharisEleos:
Thats men for you. Chicken brain.

Na man and woman dey involved here o.