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Surprised that Covenant University is not on the top 3.

With all the investments poured into their Electronics and Computer Engineering, and graduates who are doing well in the ICT industry.

OAU should also be number 1 on that list. That is one school that has developed most of the great minds that pioneered and advance ICT in Nigeria.

Yoruba's virtue is also their problem.

If all in Nigeria could be like Yoruba's, we could actually have a nation.

Jonathan and Okonjo Iweala who failed as Finance minister, must be living in disgrace at the moment.

From all I read, so many prerequisite plans were only initiated as an afterthought.

Planning was the bane of the now evident failure.

shukuokukobambi:
But it should have been vetted before release na!!

It also shows horrible inertia. What stopped the list from being released since over a year ago despite it being ready?

Buhari is a disgrace and embarrassment to us who campaigned for such a national disaster.

Buhari is a wholesome failure.

Or do we blame the wasteful Jonathan regime or the low oil prices for this unpardonable inertia and lukewarmness shown towards the anticipated revolutionary change to how Nigeria is being governed, that we all expected?

ImperialYoruba:
This is the root of their "we are marginalized" cry.

How can a tribe that is trading freely in every nook and cranny of Nigeria and runs trade monopolies be categorized as "marginalized".....except its greed, as Sardauna pointed out, to possess and monopolize even positions and places it has no merit or right to acquire.

What is worse...and to continue in Sardauna's thoughts....much as Yoruba can bear witness, is that not only does Okoro eyes possession rightfully belonging to others but as soon as he gets it, when he does, ....he will bring Okafor, Cletus, Emeka, Nwafor, Chukwudi, and before long disposess the rightful owners and then begin to antagonize his host as lazy and subperior.

The other side of the coin is of course when Okoro's ambition to take over is blocked....he views it as "marginalization and denial of his rights" and cry everyday about in hope that if he pests his host enough with his irritating noise and cries they will make concessions and allow him have his way eventually.


Ive studied yanminri...I agree absolutely with the thread topic.

I have a PhD in the study of Igbo nuisance, and I must say that you have demonstrated immense knowledge of the subject matter to earn a PhD too.

I can never be fooled by the tears of a crocodile.

giftq:

Whatever pain I feel is nothing compared to the agony of the Northern pogrom inflicted on your gloating fore-fathers.

Totally right.

No one has better articulated the mannerisms of a tribe.

What the Sardauna said despite being borne out of prevailing realities of that time, has been well exhibited even up till now, such that the Sardauna has come to be regarded as a man of great foresight.

Till today, the children of the Igbos are still wailing bitterly that their fathers were not allowed to dominate the North and Azikiwe's failure to dominate in the West, after already dominating a multi-ethnic Eastern region and allocating to themselves all that was up for grabs at the center of the federation.

Stingman:
You are a novice in these things.

Kanu asked...Ohaneze is still asking...and nothing is being done.

SW is never marginalized. There is no government both military or civilian that the Yorubas are not in the security service positions...That alone says it all.

How will you fill when you need 300 to get in the unity school and somebody from Kano needed 3 marks. At the end of your education, you can't even get into any of the government agencies, while you class mate from Kano has become a director...?

If Nigeria is not working, some group must protest. Only those who are gaining from the rot are happy the way the country operates...

You must have missed the arrogant boast of your fellow clansmen which turned out to be a contrite confession that showed that the SouthEast has never been marginalised politically and has always been a willing partner of the same North they want the rest of the South to hate.

https://www.nairaland.com/4257293/south-east-vs-south-west#63678854

As for unity schools, your 300 score is to get you to qualify for a slot in your own assured quota while for the Kano boy, he requires a score of "3" to get a slot in his own state's assured quota. So stop fighting a foolish fight over a quota that has already been shared fairly across states to ensure the "unity" composition of the enrollment in a supposed unity school.

If you find yourself or your ward in such a quagmire, proceed to another school that is not a unity school and where admission is simply based on who scored above the admission mark. A school where there is no federal subsidy and where you will pay your money's worth for the quality of education received, instead of crying over the slot reserved for Abubakar after Emeka and Chibuzor have already occupied their own reserved slot.

Igbo's should quit wailing about what score Kano or Yobe require to fill quota slots that have already been assigned to those states regardless of what scores are made by the students. Concern yourself with the quota slots that were already assigned to your own states for which high competition has resulted in high cut off marks.

If you are not satisfied and feel cheated with a quota that you have no business with, then embrace dullness among your own students so that poor scores will also ensure very low cut off for quota slots that have already been fairly shared to each state in the country.

And as the Hausa-Fulani love to populate themselves in government positions, so did the Igbos who ensured they dominated the first republic they partnered with an uneducated North. The North learnt well from the Igbos who just wanted to have everything for themselves only.

bakynes:
The truth is that,the way Igbos reason is different from the way others reason and that is why there is always a conflict of interest with the Igbos.

Some how in the subconscious of an Igbo man he believes you don't have equal right on his own ancestral land but believes since he is better than you, he should have equal right with you on your own ancestral land.

The above text in bold is the reason why the clansmen will always have eternal misery, seeing that no one will allow them have their greedy and selfish way.

superstar1:
Pigidiotic Osus just kill themselves with this thread.

The thread lay credence to what we have been saying all along that they are betrayers of the South and the eternal slaves of the North and the Nation.

This thread is one of the most damning own goals ever scored in political discourse.

Igbo unraveled Igbo generational lies.

SouthEastFacts:
I am still enjoying my Christmas, I don't have time for long article.

I stumbled upon the quoted this morning, so this short piece is an unedited response to that. When time permits, I shall run a full analysis.


The problem with some Yorubas is nothing but Shallowness. To them Nigeria started in 1999, fourth republic. But if you ask them where SW was before the fourth republic most of them will open their mouth staring at you.

Pre Republican era
First and only Governor General (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First Speaker (Jaja Nwachukwu, Present day, Abia)
First President of the Senate (Nnamdi Azikiwe)

First Republic
First President (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First President of the Senate (Nwafor Orizu)
First Acting President (Nwafor Orizu)
First Foreign Minister (Jaja Nwachukwu)
First GOC, NA (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Military Era
First Military Head of State (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Second Republic
First Vice President (Alex Ekwueme)
First Speaker (Ume Ezeoke)

Third Republic
We already know what happened here.

Abiola a wealthy Yoruba Muslim ran for President on the platform of SDP. He won a decisive victory to become the first and only Southerner to defeat a Northern overwhelming in the North.

Second republic Governors took office on January, 1993, while IBB postponed the Presidential election to June 12. Which he eventually won decisively.

According to New York Times (1993) "Many Yoruba have long resented the domination of Nigeria's political life by the mostly northern Hausa-Falani ethnic group, and were ecstatic when one of their own, Mr. Abiola, appeared to have won the recent balloting," but 11 days later, he annulled the election.

11 days again, on July 4, 1993, General Babangida took Chief Abiola and family into confidence. He told them point blank, 'they' (North) will kill you (MKO) rather than allow you to become the elected President,
Commander-in-Chief of Nigeria'.
https://m.thenigerianvoice.com/news/53716/1/the-secret-behind-the-annulment-of-june-12-amp-wha.html

In 1994, he declared himself President and was imprisoned for 4 years in solitary confinement.

On the day was due to be released, on the 7th July 1998, he died of natural cause after agreeing to renounce his mandate upon learning that the world has abandoned him, telling him they won't recognize a 5 year old election.

The government of Ernest Shonekan that took over from IBB was dismantled within 3 months by the same power that doesn't want Abiola as President. Failing to consolidate his power within 3 months, his government was dismantled with just 40 soldiers.

Announcing his Cabinet list, Shonekan became the First Civilian Head of State to alienate Ndi Igbo from government, giving Ndi Igbo 4 out of 31 Cabinet appointments.

Senate President (NC)
Fourth Republic (First 8 years)
First President (SW)
First Vice President (NE)
First Senate President (SE)
First Speaker (NW)

Note: In the 4th Republic, the SW was just compensated with the Presidency because of the 3rd republic debacle.

To achieve this, all parties were directed to field only SW, because in a liberalized election, Obasanjo the anointed can not win the election. So 4th Republic Presidency is NOT an achievement for the SW, because their own preferred candidate, Olu Falae was roundly defeated, and forced into political irrelevance. In essence, greater Nigeria imposed Obj on the SW.

They were allowed to that position not as a result of political clout or sophistication, but as result of benevolence of Nigerians. In 2003, Obj had to beg Atiku, his subordinate in a kneeling position to allow him complete his term.

www.dailypost.ng/2017/12/11/obasanjo-knelt-atiku-begging-second-term-idahosa/

Fourth Republic (Second administration)
President (NW)
Vice President (SS)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (SW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Note: SW was kicked out of the House after the first tenure. They were not allowed to complete their zoned 8 years. Tambuwal took from Bankole.

Fourth Republic (third Administration)
President (SS)
Vice President (NW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Fourth Republic (fourth Administration)
President (NW)
VP (SW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NE)
Deputy SP (SE)
Deputy Speaker (SW)

Note: VP is the only achievement of SW in the fourth Republic, a position they got by the benevolence and popularity of His Excellency, the President.

When they tested their political clout and sophistication at the national level outside the benevolence of Northern backed political clout, they were roundly defeated and political sophistication demystified during the tussle for the position of SP and Speaker.

The political sophistication of SE/SS got the SE the Deputy SP even though they don't truly deserve it. This means the North still prefer their age lond Political Cooperation with the East to their recent cooperation with the West, even though the East didn't help them achieve the Presidency.

Don't forget the 4th Republic is just 18 years. You don't expect all the 6 regions to produce President within that 18 years. 3 regions have done their part (SW ( SS (4) NW (6, remaining 2 years), 3 are yet to do theirs, hence power is going to NE unfailingly through Atiku. When time comes, nobody will stop Igbo Presidency. SS will as well complete the other 4 years when time comes.

When it comes to politics at National level, SW are just crawling. They can't beat SE political records or ever catch up with them.

The SW got the Presidency and Vice Presidency out of benevolence of people. The same way they love free owambe in real life. The only position they truly fought for President in 3rd Republic and Speaker in fourth Republic they were both disgraced out. While they were not even allowed to test the 3rd Republic Presidency, they were not allowed to complete their 8 years for speakership. Even the Military they got was out of necessity and Obj was pressured to return power to Civilian Government where a North-East cooperation got them the Vice President for a 2 terms.

Future reference material!

shukuokukobambi:
All praises to shuku Okuko alabuku that has finally enabled this boy to see the truth we have been drumming into your wax filled ears since. So you eternal crybaby have had this much romance with your slave masters up north all these years and you still claim marginalization?

Was the albino hunchback drunk on camel urine that he was abusing aboki all over the place?

Finally we can rest from the unending tears. I always said it's your destiny to follow aboki. You can never be free

I don bookmark this thread. Let me wait for the idiotic pig that will cry marginalization to my hearing again

Jaideyone, alariiwo, manmountain, Imperialyoruba, beautifulse, gotze1, totit and others who have destroyed the empty chest beating cowardly clown of an op, e ku ise jare

I swear, the guy made my day yesterday when I saw this self destructive arrogance that turned out to be a contrite confession.

I have always maintained that the Igbos are only angry that when the North had to partner with the South, it had to be another region other than the SouthEast.

The Igbo's have always marketed the North as enemy of the South that we must all keep off, then like Nicodemus who went in the night, they go back to partner with the North and corner everything that should come to the South.

They have exposed themselves unbidden.

SouthEastFacts:
Oga, Awolowo was plotting Coup with Ghanaian authorities to overthrow the Government of Azikiwe/Balewa when he was arrested. He was prison when 1965 coup was carried out. The purpose was to install him as Prime Minister which Ironsi refused. Nzeogwu led the coup and Adewale a Yoruba man was second in command. Ojukwu and Ironsi an Igbo men fought the coup.

If that coup was an Igbo coup why was Ojukwu and Ironsi the two highest ranking Igbo officers not informed.

Awo destroyed this country. I didn't said it the North did.
https://www.naija.ng/697044-must-read-tanko-yakassai-reveals-battle-awolowo-akintola-led-1966-coup.html

www.dailypost.ng/2017/06/26/awolowo-started-nigerias-political-problem-paul-unongo/

https://www.proshareng.com/news/Nigeria-Economy/Yorubas-Are-The-Problem-With-Nigeria-Proshare/27034

Don't forget what Balaraba Musa said," the Yoruba political leadership, as mentioned has shown itself over the years to be incapable of rising above narrow tribal interests".

Responding to Balarabe Musa, has the Arewa political leadership itself even ever made any attempt to project a facade of national interest over tribal interest it has embraced and that is not hidden since the onset of National politics in pre-independent Nigeria?

Responding to you, you claim Adewale Ademoyega was deputy to Nzeogwu for the coup of January 1966, yet he never led any of the other teams that were different to the one led by Nzeogwu himself? Rather, he was just a member of the other strike teams but not at the head of any like Nzeogwu, or Ifeajuna, or Onwuatuegu or Okafor or Nwobosi who all lead teams that executed the assassinations in the North and West.

Yet you still have the nerve to propagate lies that have no factual backing about Ademoyega who was just a member of the leading ring of Majors who planned the coup, but was cunningly not put in any authority that would jeopardize the hidden Igbo script that was unknown to a Yoruba man who thought his compatriots were interested in a true national revolution?

Lastly, I already warned you when you posted this same OP on the other thread. You have managed to unravel the lies that your fellow Igbos had perfected over decades of deceitful wailings of political marginalization. You have reinforced the assertion of us who were never deceived, and who insisted that the Igbos were always in bed with the same Northerners they want the rest of the South to hate. The Igbos have contributed to the problems of Nigeria from the onset, having held offices that could have served the nation better.

Thank you for this expose, it will be duly filed for posterity and reference sake.

Good scholarly article.

I appreciate the effort to propagate knowledge.

SouthEastFacts:
The problem with you Yorubas is nothing but Shallowness. To you Nigeria started in 1999.

Pre Republican era
First and only Governor General (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First Speaker (Jaja Nwachukwu, Present day, Abia)
First President of the Senate (Nnamdi Azikiwe)

First Republic
First President (Nnamdi Azikiwe)
First President of the Senate (Nwafor Orizu)
First Acting President (Nwafor Orizu)
First Foreign Minister (Jaja Nwachukwu)
First GOC, NA (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Military Era
First Military Head of State (Aguiyi Ironsi)

Second Republic
First Vice President (Alex Ekwueme)
First Speaker (Ume Ezeoke)

Third Republic
We already know what happened here.

Fourth Republic (First 8 years)
First President (SW)
First Vice President (NE)
First Senate President (SE)
First Speaker (NW)

Note: The SW was just compensated with the Presidency because of the 3rd republic debacle. All parties were directed to field only SW, because in a liberalized election, Obasanjo can never smell that seat. So this is NOT an achievement for the SW, because their own preferred candidate, Olu Falae was roundly defeated. In essence, greater Nigeria imposed Obj on them. They were even allowed to that position as a result of other Nigerians benevolence and in 2003, Obj had to beg Atiku, his VP kneeling down to allow him complete his term.

Fourth Republic (Second administration)
President (NW)
Vice President (SS)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (SW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Note: SW was kicked out of the House after the first tenure. They were not allowed to complete their zoned 8 years. Tambuwal took from Bankole.

Fourth Republic (third Administration)
President (SS)
Vice President (NW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NW)
Deputy Speaker (SE)
Deputy SP (SE)

Fourth Republic (fourth Administration)
President (NW)
VP (SW)
Senate President (MB)
Speaker (NE)
Deputy SP (SE)
Deputy Speaker (SW)

Note: VP is the only achievement of SW in the fourth Republic, a position they got by the benevolence of His Excellency, the President. When they tested their political clout and sophistication at the national level outside the benevolence of Northern backed political clout, they were roundly defeated for the position of SP and Speaker. For SE to get Deputy SP when they don't truly deserve it means they command greater clout and sophistication, and the North prefers Political Cooperation with the East than West.

Don't forget the 4th Republic is just 18 years. You don't expect all the 6 regions to produce President within that 18 years. 3 has done their part, 3 are yet to do theirs. When time comes, nobody will stop Igbo Presidency.

When it comes to politics at National level, SW are just crawling. They can't beat SE political records or ever catch up with them.

The SW got the Presidency and Vice Presidency out of benevolence of people. The same way they love free owambe in real life. The only position they truly fought for President in 3rd Republic and Speaker in fourth Republic they were both disgraced out. While they were not even allowed to test the 3rd Republic Presidency, they were not allowed to complete their 8 years for speakership. Even the Military they got was out of necessity and Obj was pressured to return power to Civilian.

Thanks for finally accepting that the SouthEast has contributed immensely to the problems of Nigeria even before independence.

Thanks also, for showing that SouthEast marginalisation in Nigeria's politics is just a fallacy propagated by the Igbo sufferers of persecution complex and victim mentality.

Your comments will come in handy to remind even you when your typical amnesia sets in as you always find convenient.

As always, the Igbo got positions by merit, but others always get theirs by compensation?

Very typical of Igbos.

BeautifulSE:
A Biafran Built Biafran Satan 404 Missille Capable Of Wiping Out 10 States

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHgIOZfXoAA-hDr.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHgILb-XYAAXW3E.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHgIMgIXcAA2hgl.jpg

Haaaa!

Iro nla kaba kaba. These people are naturally gifted in propaganda.

tribalistseun:
Rubbishh Human being

How old were Ojukwu, Gowon and Obasanjo, who were all Buhari's senior on age and rank at the same time in 1967 you were referencing, such that Buhari was already 33yrs then?

How could he be 33yrs at 1967 when he only finished secondary school in 1961?

Please learn to lie with plausibility even if you have a rotten conscience.

Do not post false information.

Cc: Mynd44

pauljumbo:
Charlie boy pack

This pastors are business men also

Oyedepo have the highest number of private primary schools in Nigeria and you think he can't afford private jet for only 4 million dollars

Were the Levites who were entitled to collect tithes also engaged in side business by marketing religious and non religious products to the congregation?

Bolustical:
PMB was in Kano last week to commission a hospital

OBJ was in Calabar yesterday to open Skyrun factory

Yesterday and today, Aisha Buhari and other Nigerians (as the picture provides) were in Ogun state to declare open Petrolex

However, at the region of the DEVELOPERS, Zuma and Sirleaf came to commission statutes

Can't you see that God is great?

Baba show mercy naa. Person fit commit suicide enter muddy water and swallowed by erosion ooo.

So ojukokoro dey kill true true?

God help the poor who are in need, while the government continue to help themselves to riches for their wants.

Desyner:
Let Femi Aribisala explain his interpretation of Mathew 23:23 then.

You call redeem Pa Adeboyes family biz but forget he isn't the first GO of that ministry.
Hatred eats up memory.

No need to wait for Femi Aribisala. This heresy of tithes has been dealt with as far back as 2012 by the likes of me on my old moniker, Goshen360, Frosbel et al.


Back to the verse you referenced, the Law was very much alive and in practice when Jesus Christ was alive and spreading his gospel. The law became obsolete when he fulfilled it as he promised. By his blood shed on the cross, a new covenant was established by the same God who had promised to establish a new, thereby making the previous old.

So Jesus in his parable, rightly advised the Pharisee to pay his tithes of agricultural produce in an era when money was existing such that Jesus even had to chase out the money changers out of the temple, and Zacchaeus was collecting tax and Jesus was betrayed for 30 pcs of silver. Yet the Pharisee of Jesus narrative paid tithes of mint, dill/anise and cummin, under the era of the law that was still valid until the blood of the testator sealed the birth of the promised new covenant when sacrifice was to become useless as promised by God himself.

Even Jesus referred the Pharisee to the law concerning weightier matters contained therein, as the law up till that time was the way to righteousness. But with the sacrifice of the lamb of God, and not burnt offerings of goats and heifers, there is not further need for the previous repeated sacrifices that never made anyone holy.

"I will have mercy, not sacrifice."
-Jesus Christ

shekauvsbuhari:
Though tithing was restated in de law, it predates de law. Abraham was before de law and abraham paid tithe to melchizedech who was not a levite. In Gen 28, jacob made a vow, to give God a tenth of his earnings and jacob lived before de law of moses. Tithing predates de law. In de law, God now made it a sort of part of de priviledges de levites n priests who kept de sanctuary. It was a practise that was in existence before de law, though it is not compulsory in our own time but it is not wrong to pay it. Infact it is advisable to pay it.

So if Abraham or Jacob gave away a tithe of what they had just once and voluntarily without any law, by whose authority are Christians who are not saved by the blood of Abraham or Jacob, compelled to pay money tithes every month of their working lives?

If it predates the law because Abraham and Jacob chose to do what they did, who chose it for this Christian era after the early Christians never found any usefulness in it?

Who created such yoke for Christians?

desreek9:
Really, so he's a muslim, shameless man

You are happy to believe that a Christian theologian and a pastor in his own right is a Muslim because someone said so, and it help to ease your distress at not being able to refute his arguments backed by history, scripture and current realities that exist even in Israel.

Just spending 2mins to look up who Femi Aribisala is on the internet would have saved you your folly.

Now imagine spending a week to read the old testament books where the law and rules on Tithes were given in Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, as opposed to the charlatans' usual defence in Malachi, which itself is misquoted as it was addressed to the priesthood and not the congregation in a time before Christ's sacrifice when the law was still valid.

Imagine spending another week to read the 4 books of the gospel, the letters of Paul and "authorless" Hebrews?

Imagine the truth you would have discovered if only you seized the initiative to learn what is right before you and not what you are told or instructed by charlatans to read?

newsynews:
Femi Aribisala about to take the shine from Daddy Freeze

Aribisala has been at the vanguard of this matter long before Daddy Freeze.

I have read of him on this matter far back in 2012.

I am also certain that Aribisala is on Nairaland.

desreek9:
Tithing is not a scam, as u quoted 2corin.9:7, you give willingly, no one is forcing anybody, whatever the men of God uses it for is their business, it's left for God to judge.

All those criticising men of God should take heed, God only knows those that are serving him in spirit and in truth. An example in the bible is when miriam was gossiping about moses to Aaron, she was punished for it, although wat she said was the truth.

Take heed people.

Tithes in Christianity is heresy.

Fraudsters and thieves should take heed.

No Nigerian pastor or GO can stand face to face in a debate over tithes with Femi Aribisala. They will be slaughtered by the truth and superior argument that will only show them to be the charlatans that they are.

Slaves to god of men will still reply you with the same Malachi they have been craftily groomed with. They carefully avoid the fact that Tithes was the inheritance of the Levites for having no land among their brothers, while for the rest of the Hebrews it was a sacrifice mandated under the old covenant that was soon to decay, wither away and die.

I begin to wonder if the blood of Malachi was the testator for the new covenant, and not the blood of Christ.

For the lure of filthy lucre, many will pierce their hearts with many sorrows.

Show me a Pastor collecting tithes, and you would have found yourself a thief, a vagabond, and a heretic who has burdened the faithful with a yoke.

I remember those recorded in the bible seeking from the apostles the power of the holy spirit, in a bid to sell religion for profit.

While the likes of Adeboye's son is happy with the growing family business, let me remind him of the words of the Christ, who even repeated it to remind all that he had stated it earlier.

"I will have mercy, not sacrifice"

Religion and its age long weapon of fear.

Old habits truly die hard.