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dejii01:
OAU? JANUARY? 200 LEVEL? HEHEHEHE

I comment my reserve.

I'm sure he meant OOU or AAU......

Adebisi17:
Hapy New Month To Y'all.....Awwww,i Read Some Heart Touching Stories(testimonies) Today On OAU Freshers Thread and i was touched,motivated,encouraged until tear almost fell frm my eyes.....u guys are just too wonderful...timmy timmy,babysmart,chiamaka,understatement and all........wish u success in thy endeavours................VERY WONDERFUL THREAD WITH WONDERFUL PEOPLE

Tears really fell?? well, pictures or adonbiliivit

Just kidding dear, Happy New Month to you too.

What is Caleb University? Sorry, I stay in Norway.

Omolojujesu:
You 're on the way bro

Thanks.

Johnwills:
Please guys, help clarify me on this. Between Applied Geophysics and Electrical Electronics Engineering, which is better in terms of job opportunity in nigeria?

No one... it all depends on your result, your wealth of knowledge and experience, charisma, IQ, connections and most importantly the grace of God.

I don't think we should be so caught up about choice of course, except you have a passion for a particular course.

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yetseyi:
I do not think i missed any point(s)
I actually read and digested thw comments on this issue and had declined to make any lenghty comments till my post you quoted.

Somebody (mintayo) actually said tatoos are wrong and another said it depends on the reason/motive. while geographical location was also a determining factor in another post.

I came to a conclusion that we need the holyspirit to interprete the scriptures since most of what we think may be our own personal view which can be influenced by a lot of factors; denomination,personal conviction etc.

We may not be looking at this issues from Gods own perspective which is why I posted that

@bolded statement 1.Its not a personal law its what i see in that scripture
@bolded 2 we xtians do that a lot.

It is because of the last two statements above I said lets ask what the holyspirit is saying about the scripture. All of us may be wrong.

Except you can say categorically that this scripture was illuminated to me by the holy sprit as this.

And honestly I dnt think thats too much for us tp do instead of going back and forth on this issue

Okay ma, God bless you for taking your time to explain again.

Babafaros:
I knew abt sex 4rm my Classmates &they are always encouraging me to try it bacl then while i was in SS1.My parents never mentioned anytin like dat.

so, did you ?

dejii01:
Well, I can't really say either. Just no thanks to the book Everywoman, very educative.

Deji......irav tey dat u hav spoil! !

ihedinobi2:
I didn't think you were undermining the place of Bible Study. I just thought it would be good for us to be very clear about things like that. I honestly didn't think you meant that we shouldn't read the Bible and try to follow what it says. But then what do you mean exactly, was the question I was asking.

And you have answered here. How did the Pharisees take the Scriptures? I'd like us to discuss that.

Oh....Alright then, I'll post what I know about that subject later.

ihedinobi2:
I understand you. But if you are not well taught in the Scriptures, what do you do with what you have read?

I'm not saying it's not important. The point I'm trying to make is the Bible shouldn't be taken the way the Pharisees took the Law.
I hope you now understand that I'm not trying to undermine the place of Bible study.

JackBizzle:


Well, we will tell God that he should have updated the bible and made it clearer. He would understand.

LoL ....But seriously, that's no excuse oh.Early Christians didn't have the Bible as we know it.
They also had controveries. I don't want to sound ridiculous but reading the bible and following it word for word like robots ain't Christianity.

yetseyi:
owkie then.


theres nothing wrong wit tatoos right, ur personal beliefs which i still do not agree with.

Now its about the what for?

issorait but seriously scriptures are not open to personal interpretation. 2pet1:19-21. pls read.

most of what we ve done here is simply analogies. what we feel that leviticus scripture should/ may mean.

All scripture is inspired by holy spirit abi. lets ask the holy spirit for interpretation of that place

And he s always there to guide us.

I think you are missing the point .No one said getting tattoos are right or wrong.
Lemme explain it this way.We have a certain number of things in Christianity that are non-negotiables for Christians...things like murder, fornication. These are the Law, they are ABSOLUTE MORAL LAW.

Did Jesus come to do away with them? Not at all, if anything, He set higher standards in a way that it would be impossible to fulfill by sheer force of will.
He said"if you are angry with a person in your heart, you have committed murder","if you lust at a woman in your heart, you have committed fornication".

I'm pretty sure that the average Christian really doesn't struggle with murder.It is these little things like anger and lust that gnaw away at our souls.Jesus came to set a higher standard of life for us .

John Wesley said something I love: Laws are good for people that cannot follow the prompting of the Holy Spirit. If you have made a personal law for yourself that tatoos are bad, good and fine.Just be sure that the Judge of the whole world isn't obligated to follow our own laws.

Also, no one said we are to interprete laws to suit our personal beliefs. Zac Poonen usually says something: Each time you crack your bible open, do you see a tree of knowledge of good and evil or do you see a tree of life?......our choice.
God bless.

dejii01:
Fortunately for me, I do them frequently.

Scared much?

we shall see

dagr8:
Mintayo, yetseyi, Esdb and all
I will attempt to use an analogy to explain Lev19:28 perhaps it will help us to better comprehend the passage.
“You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the LORD.”Lev 19:28…..
Let us replace “make any cuttings in your flesh” with “Use your TV” in Lev 19:28 and
Let us replace “tattoo any marks on you” with “Use your Laptop”
Let us replace “the dead” with “watching Indecency” in same Lev 19:28

This is what we will get
“You shall not Use your TV for watching indecency, nor use your laptop: I am the LORD.” (Permit me to call this Mintayo 19:28)……………… (This is an analogy please)
From my knowledge of English what Mintayo 19:28 is saying is that: “I should not use my TV and my laptop for watching indecency”. Good.
Ok, If someone comes and say “It is wrong for Christians to tattoo on their body” according to Lev 19:8, you would agree with me that what the person is saying according to our derived passage( check eqn Y above) is same as “It is wrong for Christians to use their laptop according to Mintayo 19:28.
But, sincerely, is that what “Mintayo 19:28” actually says? Mintayo 19:28 specifies what I should not use the laptop for, but never condemns me from using the laptop. Same in Lev 19:28 "don't make any cuttings in your body for the dead(This was the religious practice at that time) and don't print on your body for the same reason.
Now pagans use Laptop, atheist do, Muslims do and Unbelievers do, is that enough reason for me to say "Use of Laptop"(in this context) does not glorify God? If Some other people use the laptop wrongly perhaps use it for yahoo yahoo,watching indecency and all that, Is that automatic that I have been denied Use of Laptop? I believe the "what for" makes all the difference and is specify in the passage.
I don't use tattoo, I will never use it,but like Timmytimmy rightly posted,the Bible does not clearly condemns it like some people make it appear to be. I believe it will not be right for me to be misinterpreting some passage because I am not comfortable with it or have been taught not to be comfortable with it.
If we refuse to look at Lev 19:28 in context we would as well tell Christians that having tribal marks is wrong because Lev 19:28 mentions "cutting in your flesh" which I believe tribal marks is. Lale which is used for beautification and is lovely would also be religiously condemned cos what the NKJV translates as tatoo is "Print" in KJV".
Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the LORD.Lev 19:28 (KJV)
At the end of it,writing on my palm too will become wrong according to the passage.

LOL at "Mintayo 19:18"....
I've never heard it put like this before and I honestly don't know if we should run commentaries like this but it's a really brilliant analogy and at least we all arrive at one conclusion.
Oh, yeah and don't naturally assume that everyone agrees with tribal marks, I've seen pastors that believe both earring holes and tribal marks are a blemish on God's temple.

babysmart:
I cant really say where or when bt as I was growing up certain things jst bcame clear to me nd I think books played a major role.
Yea, I think dat particularly in Nigeria, parents deliberately shy away frm d responsibility of givin deir children sex edu.
I think once a child is old enough to understand, u shuld start educatin d child

"Things just became clear?".......hmmm

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Mizchief:
I was just 7 so she taught me the basics

Sorry O,
what are the basics

Mizchief:
My mum was quite open about sex
She taught me about periods and stuffs when I was about 6
On my 7th birthday, she talked to me about sex, the risks and responsibilities that comes with it

Did she tell you about how the main act is carried out?

Infomizer:
I probably learnt from the media too. My parents never had it with me o...Even after mumsi walked in on me straffing (was 15), she still didn't have the talk. Many parents I knew growing up abhorred it and lived in denial but it's hypocritical to me. Methinks the earlier my kids understand sex and priorities, the better. As a prospective dad, as soon as I detect a tad of awareness, I dole out the talk pronto. Embarrassed kwa? Won't even wait for their mom if she no take time. No time to check time!

Lmao, she actually caught you pants down.
I can only imagine.

dejii01:
Do your worse

Let's resume first.....Hint: Do alot of work out, carry weights and do push ups.

fissy1st:
Pls smone said d fee na 205000 naira mo ku oooooo

For real? ?? if that's true, then it's armed robbery.

btw, it was unintentional, I promise. I'm not like some people.

I've been following for a while now and I'll like to say thank you to everyone that has contributed one way or the other.

There are many issues that the Bible isn't very clear about and I think this should be one of them. The problem usually with issues like this is that we would keep debating about them because we already have deep-seated ideologies formed by cultural upbringing and childhood training.

It's only natural because the Bible is written in words and letters, we could interprete and apply these words a thousand ways to agree with our individual opinions. BUT we aren't ambassadors of the letter because the "letter kills"!.

I think the issue of ornaments in general should be a personal doctrine. The questions that we must ask ourselves as we pursue body beautification are as follows. Is this really necessary? Does this edify my spirit? Does this glorify God? Am I doing this in accordance to the dictations of my flesh?

Christianity shouldn't be legalistic, it should be a relationship with the Holy Spirit. I know a lot of good Christians that have tattoos (eg Lecrae) but then it's between their spirit and the Holy Spirit.

Finally, I WILL not use tattoos because God is yet to lead me to see how a tattoo has glorified God in Nigeria (I'm not saying it doesn't happen).People naturally abhor it over here.So, there.....we could argue forever, we'll just keep going in circles.
GOD BLESS.

Chiamaka01:
@johnwills, where have you been? Welcome back.

*singing* shez looking for Johnny, shez looking for Johnwills, shez looking for her Johnwills

Chiamaka01:
Old woman.

*enters thread with Gov Oshiomole and Hon Patrick*

olumorinmoses:
ma binu ore. God is on d throne and He doesn't sleep bro, He will do ur own also.

Yes oh!...He will do it.
Once again, i'm really happy for you, Unilorin is also one of the mighty and 200L at that....wow!!we will wash it oh

So, I read the story of a sex addict and saw the way he was totally destroyed by what should have been a blessing to him.The "sex" topic is perhaps one of the most important things that children need to understand as they grow up. It is however rather unfortunate that most of us never had the privilege of receiving a direct sexual education talk from either a parent or an older person. I for one remember that the first time I noticed sex was in an American movie.

Ranging from advertisements, to sit coms to sports, we see elements of sex been subtly introduced to young minds as they watch TV. What they should have learnt from good sources were learnt from perverse sources(programmes not for their age groups).

From an early age, we are thought to think about sex as an issue that must not be discussed, a dirty thing, an unclean thing.Some girls are even told that touching a boy once you start menstruating results in a pregnancy.I can't help but imagine how many babies that would have been saved from abortion.

As a person, where did you first learn about sex?do you wish you had learnt about sex from your parents or another good source? Don't you think Africa is full of hypocrites? Do you get embarrassed when your children talk about sex? At what age is it right to start educating a child about sex?

toluwalope1:
.hmmm!

You think otherwise?

dejii01:
This cracked me up

Deji, close your teeth before you buy extra job

olumorinmoses:
yeah but not Oau!

Congrats bro. when one door looks closed, God opens alternatives.

Sbrainy:
Its really a long time on this thread. I salute expredites that have bin doin pretly well on dis page. I hop to pay my quota too.
Ask ur qtns.
Congrats to all successfu predites in dia entrance exam. As many that dint make d cutoff, all hop isnt lost yet. Wish u d very best

I remain my humble self

Signed :: sbrainy

Welcome back sir.....I guess you know who I am.

Chiamaka01:
Lol, anyway, point taken, i'll stop denying them their rights to FTC.

Chiamaka, if I catch u ehn...
Btw, what's "edede"?