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alsudan:
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Obi talks, Nigerians listen...

Nigerians talk, Obi listens.

That’s what 2023 is all about.

This is what we want.



WE NEED PUBLIC PARTICIPATION IN GOVERNANCE..

And it's Only Peter-Obi that can bring it to us.

That's very cool

He wants to use Peter-Obi to shine?


The last I knew, he was supposed to be a musician

He finally learnt how to dance BUGA properly..

[quote author= post=119791083]The Man for the job.

JAGABAN , Our incoming President.

JAGABAN OF AFRICA.

From Leadership and Experience perspective,
He stands head and shoulders above the rest



JAGABAN no be your mate o [/quote]TRUST ME...
JAGABAN WILL STILL BLAME 16 YEARS OF PDP’S MISRULE, ESPECIALLY THAT OF JONATHAN..

BUT NO BLAMES FOR APC AND BUHARI.

[quote author= post=119791056]Bookmarked for future reference.

GOD BLESS NIGERIA. [/quote]This is what it should be.






We should also bookmark others too

Yamiriflathead:
Keep quiet, we will all bask in his disgrace that even the next generation will make mockery of obidients and obipig for being chestbeatin LOSERS

Ok then.





That would make him One Loser who became more popular than the winners..


IS THAT IT.??

Peacemaker5128:
https://mobile.twitter.com/renoomokri/status/1611394303133372416

It is his disgrace.

So relax.



His disgrace is none of your business.



(The one they disgraced ATIKU in 1993, 2007, and 2019 -- Atiku didn't die)

TheNiceGuy:
I'm Chinedu Obizor from Agulu, Anambra State.

I'm not an ethnic bigot, Tinubu the rightful Canditate has my vote and that of my family.

Your vote is your right bro.

Vote Peacefully, and protect your vote after Voting

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This Information was so helpful...
I have seen the locations for 7 wards near me sef.



I AM GOING TO BROADCAST THEM NOW..


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Snakedoctor1:
This is rubbish. It will make original investigating bodies demy gods. My petition to Force HQ was referred back to FCT Command where my client was nearly beaten up by police who collected money from the culprit.
That case has no headway till date. We can't even follow up except write all other bodies like min of justice etc without response. It's a hell of a country.

I understand exactly what you mean.






Do you believe that a good government leadership can turn things around??
Especially in the “Nigeria Police Force”, and Judiciary System.?

Do you believe that, if we elect a good president and good legislative members come February, that they can do something to correct all these anomalies, and reform the Nigerian Police for good?

lexy2014:
You haven't answered the questions.

When I told you that you missed the whole point I was trying to make.. I meant every bit of what I said.

What is the correlation between "slightly distorted narrative” and "full digitisation, and inter-connectivity of the activities of the Nigerian Police"?

Investigations cannot happen without having Information.
And the police cannot have Information without having data.
Digitisation and inter-connectivity will enhance data sharing.

Now, the fact you brought “slightly distorted narrative” here made me believe that you didn't understand the comment.
Go back and read it again.

Meanwhile, if the police have a database where they register their cases and Investigations, two police Stations cannot be handling the same “investigation” without being aware that both of them are handling the same case independently.
Whether they are slightly distorted or not.
It would have shown clearly on their system, that another station is already investigating on it..

I take it to be that you have not encountered the Nigerian Police yet.

If someone comes to a police station with a "slightly distorted narrative", why should that affect the result of the investigation? Is that not why there must be an investigation to ascertain the veracity of a complaints story? If the police obtain different results from one investigation, shouldn't it be a result of the failure of police investigative processes which are usually about helping the highest bidder than ensuring justice? Why are you blaming poor database for bad police work?

Now you want me to repeat myself?
If the two police investigators asked all the likely investigative questions, there is every possibility that they asked similar questions,, and thus, they should seek for the answers by gathering all the necessary information they could lay their hands on, and they need to gather and process a lot of data before they get the information they need.
So, why would there ever be different Investigation-results?
It's because the different investigators might have asked slightly different questions, which led them to seek for different Information form differing data-sources.. And thus, the information at their disposal differed.
(You cannot just be here and be trying your best make me to believe that police investigation must always be like: “bring money let me cover everything up for you”..
Even if that used to happen,, my comment is looking forward to a future police which we are hoping for, where Information is what powers and fuels the Investigations, and not about money, or corrupt police system.. GO BACK AND READ MY COMMENT AGAIN.. I WASN'T BLAMING. I WAS TRYING TO PROVIDE SOLUTIONS.)

According you "But here we are in Nigeria, we have a very docile police system who doesn't even have the slightest access to any privileged information or intelligence."

Am glad you called it "docile police system ". Is it lack of database that made the system "docile"? Is it availability of database that will make it not to be docile? If you fix the docility, how database fix it?

I didn't understand the last part of this question, but nevertheless, let me answer the ones I understood.

Meanwhile, to answer you here again means that I am repeating myself all-over again.

If the police system is effective, the Policemen will also deliver.

It's funny that you say police don't have access to intelligence. Who will give them that access? Isn't their job to source for intelligence to get things done?

Now you got it,, but you deliberately skewed off again.
(I know your type, but that's not what I am here to talk about)...
It is their job to source for intelligence,, and to source for it in any way possible.
But then, the places they should be sourcing for the intelligence, they still don't have access to them, even though they are supposed to have access to them based on the laws that established them.
So, we should be asking the Nigerian Police why they don't have access to such useful databases from where they are supposed to be getting useful information and intelligence, whereas they are supposed to have such access based on the laws that established them.

But you're here telling me that have such access to data and Information is not necessary.
Are you for real??
So, how then are they supposed to carry out their supposed Investigations, and reach to conclusive ends, and get justice truly served if they don't have access to enough Information?

lexy2014:
What is the correlation between "slightly distorted narrative” and "full digitisation, and inter-connectivity of the activities of the Nigerian Police"?

Meanwhile, you haven't answered the questions I asked...

If someone comes to a police station with a "slightly distorted narrative", why should that affect the result of the investigation? Is that not why there must be an investigation to ascertain the veracity of a complaints story? If the police obtain different results from one investigation, shouldn't it be a result of the failure of police investigative processes which are usually about helping the highest bidder than ensuring justice? Why are you blaming poor database for bad police work?

According you "But here we are in Nigeria, we have a very docile police system who doesn't even have the slightest access to any privileged information or intelligence."

Am glad you called it "docile police system ". Is it lack of database that made the system "docile"? Is it availability of database that will make it not to be docile? If you fix the docility, how database fix it?

It's funny that you say police don't have access to intelligence. Who will give them that access? Isn't their job to source for intelligence to get things done?

I told you earlier that you deviated from the point I was trying to make.

And you're still missing the point.

And I won't try to explain again.

Sorry bro

Obi said it first.



Copy-And-Paste Copy-Cats

toxtimmy:
Exactly...

Like I did a project for city in Canada years and years ago. Before the mayor signs a cheque so many things have to take place via technology systems aka using database, so many people need to approve on various levels via technology aka using databases...and everything is auditable just by a simply query...and the logs cannot be deleted so anytime you can audit and see if things are out of place or not by an auditor that comes in unannounced every year.

now fast forward to my trip to government house in my state here in Nigeria... I sit down for chair there and see where governor they give order to his ADC to give Mr. A $5000 and ADC go go inside room come back with that money and give the person... Mind you there are so many people dem they do this to everyday...because it's all cash and cannot be tracked...with a simple policy of every spend must be a cheque or wire transfer (a database involved...no cash and it will be hard for people to steal...and even though they steal they can't hide once it's audited)

Now back to police matter ... What do you think police will do if you go to them with facts say governor or civil servant a or c stole millions of naira and you give them facts to support your accusation even video proof of the governor stealing the money?

I really don't want to say this...




But then, we still have a very very long way to go in Nigeria..

Henryfortune:
Another important thing is to have a standard Data base collection and another standard unit of CCTV footage analysis department in all areas of not most in all Police units across the country this way it's check and balance will be easier

The individual Policemen should also have body-radios with gps-locator-chips (or better-still body-cameras), and then, they should always Activate such body gadgets whenever they are on active duty..
Thus, if there should be any resultant tragedy from such activities of theirs, there would be instant information from such gadgets that are readily available, and that would help in the Investigation of such tragedies.

Failure to activate their body-gadgets during an active engagement, and tragedy happens, all the officers on duty at that particular post are going in for serious sanctions

toxtimmy:
Tata there.... You building a house on sand.... What is a database,?... Where are they standing up database in igp office or datacenter or cloud?...who maintains database?...what information is going to be in database? Who gets access to database to use? Who disconnects access to database?.....whats the cyber security plan and cost to keep database safe year in year out?
.. is excel document a database?....what is the training plan to use database?...will there be budget from the Nigerian police force for the rest of its entirety to maintain database?... What are the plans and cost of gadgets to use database including maintenance and upgrades?...What are the privacy plan for database? How would a policeman on the road access database when not sitting in front of a computer? Etc etc etc and remember you need nepa to run database and disaster recovery plans and high availability...basically a database that is not 99.9% available is not reliable

My point is they are looking to get billions of naiara to steal from for a project to no where.

Common instruction from numerous igp to stop road block for the past 30 to 40 years the Nigerian police cannot implement ... Now you talking of a database?

If the really want a database they can start by using Excel files with guardrails while the restructure the Nigerian police force into state police... With a federal police somewhere at the top... because if you want to eat elephant you break it down into pieces.

Lastly they should publicly put a request for private companies to bid and build the system (no foreign company) so the enterprising and technically sound nigerians with experience can build this system and maintain by creating jobs for at the very least thousands of nigerians from this project.

Lastly you can't build a database system without a plan and design... Show me plan and design interaction model of the personas that will use database then we can then maybe start talking.....in other words before even Nigerian police make this announcement they should have done the preliminary ground work to capture and document what I mentioned above first before anything.

I think I understand you very well.




But we are NOT happy that the only agent of the government which is fully and LEGALLY responsible for all types of INVESTIGATIONS in the country, are the ones who are the most poorly indulged with the management and handling of data and information..

Or do we need another Government Investigation Institution?


All these questions you are asking,, some private firms (with branches) have solved them already, and are moving further.
Or, are you saying that the Government cannot solve the problems, and get the Nigerian Police well equipped with proper information-sharing and prompt communication systems?

STEWpid:
Chai..

But complainants, victims are to pay for investigation?

Buy fuel for Police vehicle?

Pay to open case file, etc..?

These are just the main reasons why the Nigerian Police can never ever get things right.


All these orders they are dishing out are just eye-service orders

toxtimmy:
Aso rock or NNPC not get database... Government houses in Nigeria no get database.... Why?... Because you can't trace any money that comes it if this institutions as there no logs or automated auditing that comes with databases.

Corruption and databases are like water and kerosine.

I see..


And because they would prefer corruption,, they wouldn't want any form of automated databases.

blinking001:
The Nigerian police force is the best in Africa. The enthusiasm of our darling police men and women to fight crime can never be matched by any other police force in Africa. We are indeed the true giants of Africa. The exploits of our darling police force can be felt in every corners of our country, from the north to the south and from east to west. They've paid and are still paying their dues.
As Nigerians, we must always appreciate the sacrifice of our service men and women towards ensuring our safety. I can't imagine a Nigeria without the police force. Let us join hands with the police to fight crime.

Singing

Pikin wey say him mama no go sleep
How himself go sleep
Crime must to commot for Nigeria oh
Oya oh
Gidigi wayo all of them commot
Oya oh
Cause we go hellep policeee
Help them fight crime
Make Nigeria better

Pursue crime commot for Nigeria oh
Oya oh
Violent crimes case don change
Oya oh
Police don talk am say:
Anybody wey the think plan for him belle
To bring katakata
E go take him head e carry am oh

Arm robbers una time don pass
Oya oh
Mr and Mrs trouble maker
Una Sorry oh
Oya oh
Cause we go hellep policeee
Help them fight crime
Make Nigeria better

Nigeria na better country oh
Make we commot crime for our land
Nigeria go sweet again e oh
Well well.


God bless the Nigerian police force
God bless Nigeria.

If only police is “helpable”, then we can help them.



But NO.



Police is no longer about the POLICE,, but now about the Policemen.

They want money more than the honour and responsibility.

lexy2014:
If someone comes to a police station with a "slightly distorted narrative", why should that affect the result of the investigation? Is that not why there must be an investigation to ascertain the veracity of a complaints story? If the police obtain different results from one investigation, shouldn't be a result of the failure of police investigative processes which are usually about helping the highest bidder than ensuring justice? Why are you blaming poor database for bad police work?

According you "But here we are in Nigeria, we have a very docile police system who doesn't even have the slightest access to any privileged information or intelligence."

Am glad you called it "docile police system ". Is it lack of database that made the system "docile"? Is it availability of database that will make it not to be docile? If you fix the docility, how database fix it?

It's funny that you say police don't have access to intelligence. Who will give them that access? Isn't their job to source for intelligence to get things done?

Can Investigations be done without having enough information?

Can information be gotten without having access to where the information is??

Doesn't information come in form of data which are processed based on need for the information that was sought?

The raw unprocessed data needed for the information, are they not stored in various databases..??

So, what exactly are you saying here?




I guess you know why the proposed NIN-SIM Linkage is still not yet working (as proposed) in solving criminal investigations in Nigeria.??
IT'S BECAUSE THE NIGERIAN POLICE DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO THE NIN-SIM UNIFIED DATABASE YET..
And who do we now blame for this unfathomable delay??


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Meanwhile, you missed my point about the “slightly distorted narrative” line.
I was referring to the full digitisation, and inter-connectivity of the activities of the Nigerian Police.

Even if the narrative was not even “slightly distorted” in any way, but it was reported by a totally different person against the same earlier person in question, in another station altogether....
I am telling you that the Next Station wouldn't know that another station elsewhere had already taken up the case, and had started working on the investigations already.

MUST WE CONTINUE LIKE THIS IN THIS COUNTRY??

WHEN WILL OUR POLICE GO FULLY DIGITAL.??

beardedboy:
I don't think this is necessarily something good.

I know of several cases where a local DPO has been compromised and the only way the case could be resolved was through petitioning the zonal or state police command.

I think this kind of rule will further give local DPOs more power and room to sweep strong cases under the carpet.

Many of those DPOs have become puppets in the hands of local thugs and rich men. If any thug harms you and you report to your local station, those DPOs will order their men to write "two-fighting" and that will be the end of the case.

Let there be multiple investigation. At least, it serves as a means to check and balance these corrupt DPOs.

The NPF is an arse.

This last line is just the main summary of everything

lexy2014:
The heading and the story are saying two different things. The heading says the IGP has achieved standardizing investigations while the story says it is an order given which is yet to be implemented

In the Police formation, they obey the “last” order.

So, once the order is given, it is as good as done.

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And I continue to ask this same question over-and-over-again..



WHEN WILL THE NIGERIAN POLICE MAKE IT VERY EASY FOR PEOPLE TO CALL THE POLICE ON PHONE AND REPORT THEIR ISSUES, AND GET IMMEDIATE RESPONSE FROM THE POLICE, WITHOUT HAVING TO BE THERE PHYSICALLY IN ANY POLICE-STATION.??

Let us watch out and see if the MEN IN BLACK are going to adhere to this new policy..



Trust them at your own peril

We appreciate the IGP.


However there is need to institutionalize these reforms.

The police can sponsor a bill to the National Assembly to make laws to protect these reforms, else some other unserious IGP comes and jettison these reforms.

But then...
In my own little contribution to this....

This cannot work effectively IF THE NIGERIAN POLICE DOESN'T HAVE A UNIFIED DATABASE SYSTEM which serves for the whole of the Police Operations in the country.



I think the Nigerian Police should have a unified database across the whole nation.

So that someone cannot come to one station and report someone, and then, the same person that was reported against (in the first station) would carry the same matter to another station with a slightly distorted narrative, and yet, the second station wouldn't be aware that such a case was already pending in another station.

The Nigerian Police should streamline all their database and data-management systems, and make it unified, and then, allow it to be updated in real-time.



Then again:......
The Nigerian Police should also have access to the NIMC’s NIN-Numbers database, and BVN, and INEC’s VIN-Numbers database, so that people's identities can be verified properly and also cross-verified when necessary..

The Nigerian Police are supposed to have all the necessary security by-pass to all the possible available identity-management data-base systems in Nigeria, including BVN, NIMC-NIN, NCC, FRSC, TIN, NHIS, NPC, INEC-VIN, PASSPORT-NUMBER etc., and be able to cross-check data from any of them in order to get out every possible information that pertains to the identification of individuals, which would give them further leads in their investigations.

But here we are in Nigeria, we have a very docile police system who doesn't even have the slightest access to any privileged information or intelligence.

Even the banks have by-pass access to run checks on customers’ INEC-VIN, NIMC-NIN, FRSC-LICENCE, AND PASSPORTS.
But our police doesn't have any, which is very very baadd.


THEN,, For the sake of privacy policy, and for the Protection of private information of the citizens, the by-pass granted to the police for the checks should be regulated, and be fully official and formal, and ANY of such checks made on any of the data-base portals would be properly lodged against the logon-identity of the officer who conducted the check as well as that of the team-leader who authorised the checks, including the file-number of the case-file for which the check was done.

Thus, the results of any single data-base checks should have the logon-identity of the officer who ran the check and that of the officer who authorised for the checking to be done, the title of the case-file and file-number, and a brief description for the need of the check..

This would minimise unauthorized checking of people's private information by compromised or unauthorized police officers, for unauthorised purposes.

PRESS RELEASE
CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM: IGP STANDARDIZES POLICE INVESTIGATION PROCESS

Directs against Duplication, Parallel Investigations

The Inspector-General of Police, IGP Usman Alkali Baba, psc(+), NPM, NEAPS, fdc, CFR, in a bid to strengthen the criminal justice system and standardize investigation processes in the Nigeria Police Force, has ordered a streamlining of all police investigative processes to prevent duplication of investigation via indiscriminate petitions and transfer of cases initiated by individuals and groups who have been indicted in initial investigations as a way to frustrate diligent investigation process and truncate criminal justice delivery.

The IGP gave the directives while reviewing and dealing with files/cases in response to complaints on indiscriminate transfers of cases from Zonal/State Commands and other investigative units of the Force by operatives of the Force Criminal Investigations Department, Force Intelligence Bureau, and other Force Headquarters Based Investigation outfits under the guise of re-investigation at the prompting of indicted parties. He stressed that the situation has often given rise to parallel investigations by multiple units leading to conflicting arrests of parties, and different outcomes even when such matters have been conclusively investigated and charged to court.


The Inspector-General of Police has therefore warned that transfer or taking over of cases from Commands/Formations to FHQ-based outfits must only be carried out upon approval of a written petition to the IGP which will serve as authority for any such action. The IGP equally appeals to members of the public to be on the same page with the Police leadership in its bid to sanitize the process and strengthen our criminal justice system. He has similarly warned that officers found culpable of colluding with lawyers of, or indicted parties to abuse police investigative process will be sanctioned accordingly.

CSP OLUMUYIWA ADEJOBI, mnipr, mipra,
Force Public Relations Officer,
Force Headquarters,
Abuja

3rd January, 2023

Source:
https://www.facebook.com/100064453009372/posts/538577508300678



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The summary of the whole thing is that the IGP is trying to put an end to “THE ORDER IS FROM ABOVE...”
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chokekachy:
https://www.bbc.com/hausa/articles/cprneer7r3zo?at_format=image&at_link_origin=bbchausa&at_medium=social&at_ptr_name=twitter&at_link_type=web_link&at_bbc_team=editorial&at_campaign=Social_Flow&at_campaign_type=owned&at_link_id=48D4701E-8CB0-11ED-94F5-77FC2052A482

Same old stories,, over-and-over-again

Lizzysamuel:
More

Drone photos abegg

Braintaf23:
My neighbor has the most crazy relationship I have ever seen.

This man never stays inside the room with his wife, for every time his wife is around this man always finds a reason to leave the room and come sit outside. I don’t think they love themselves, I think they just did an arranged marriage just to get support regularly from their families, being than his wife is partially disabled in one leg..

But isn’t that exhausting? Living with a partner you don’t even like because of money from your collective families? They are both above 40 and the wife refers to him as “guy” that’s the only name she ever calls him.

Na their wahalla that one be naa.
Or abi e concern you in any way?

nlfpmod:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2023/01/this-is-insane-netizens-knock-empress-njamahs-ex-fiance-over-leaked-nude-video/amp/

So, he can now be happy??




He is the loser here