Business › Re: My Experience In Egg Distribution Investment. by Toks2008(m): 10:56am On Sep 02, 2016*. Modified: 12:04pm On Sep 02, 2016 |
Blackkie: Abeg, who will teach me Yoruba language? I am losing some juicy sales due to this language barrier.
Today, a farm manager whom i have been doing all my packaging to meet bumped into me this afternoon. He was glad to meet me and instantly he went off blasting this language and finally asked me to follow up on what he said only for me to tell him that i did not understand what he said. He looked at me and walked away.
Infact, i dont know when to see him again! Lol this got me cracked up. I must commend you for your unrelenting efforts in ensuring that people understand this biz. Infact you are a rare gem. There are good business opportunity for many people but many people just want the easy way out which is getting a job. Thanks once again. |
Business › Re: How The Current MMM Will Likely End - As a Scam by Toks2008(m): 7:27am On Sep 02, 2016 |
tempest01: I saw the current MMM advertised by a friend sometime back and I quickly waved it off as a scam as with the HYIP and other ponzi schemes.
https://www.nairaland.com/3321916/sec-warns-nigerians-dangers-mmm
Given this topic that was on the front page today, I saw some comments by people and it was noted that ''There is no pool of money with the current MMM and therefore they can't run away''.
Given the nature of their business, with no investments and the fact that they have put in resources in place to allow for this trade to happen, it is pertinent that one day or another, they will close down, and they won't go through that stress without duping people of their money. Seeing the topic today, I had to register and checkout how the model works , and also brainstorm on the eventual way the MMM operators will dupe those that are in the system.
I am giving a scenario here and though it may not play out the same way, there should be no denying the fact that one day - which i wll term as ''the day of reckoning''. the MMM site will shut operations and will try to make as much as possible from your funds before that.
Now here is the scenario. As there is no pool as someone rightly said, I registered and saw the mode of operation. It is worthy of note that the same MMM site runs in several countries:-
Nigeria South Africa India Colombia Turkey
So from my postulation, the fold-up will happen in a month - The month of reckoning-- across all MMM sites on that month because anything short of that will send panic to other countries and they won't maximize.
The scenario i see playing out is that the handlers will have bank accounts or agents in all countries of operations and in the month of reckoning, as there is no pool of money, all the ''get help'' requests will be paused - Not paused perse, but no ''get help'' request will go through and will be pending as they won't publish it.
Now the ''Provide help'' will be allowed to work, but the account shown will be that of the handlers of the site (or their agents) and people will keep providing help, but it goes to the scam account. Now this will go on for a month as you have to wait for a month to use your Mavro. The first people that will notice the scam will be the ''Get help'' People as they will keep waiting, but no help will come. Then ''Provide help'' people will come to know after a while and they MMM people will release a statement saying the ''business model experiment failed and they are shutting down''
Be wise Nigerians.... Alternative views and constructive arguments are welcome Walahi with all the experience I have in affiliate marketing I'm still at sea over how this system pays. Nevertheless a closer look at MMM south Africa shows a safe proof system that can run infinitely due to the compensation plan but the payment module of the MMM Nigeria remains sketchy. |
Family › Re: When you lack sexual satisfaction in your marriage. by Toks2008(op): 9:59pm On Sep 01, 2016 |
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Celebrities › Re: Halima Abubakar Bares Cleavage In A Yellow Outfit by Toks2008(m): 8:26pm On Sep 01, 2016 |
Sometimes outward beauty of a lady can be so intoxicating to her that she just wants to flaunt and flaunt and flaunt until she realizes how old she has become.
One fact every hot lady must realize is that "if you believe you are too hot to settle down with one man then be ready to be sampled by many men" |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 1:22pm On Sep 01, 2016 |
Insightful and interesting comments I must say. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 8:05am On Sep 01, 2016 |
blaqiz: u can stay indoor if u will be tempted to Still waiting for the eclipse. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 8:01am On Sep 01, 2016 |
jaybillionaire: don't mind them, especially our naija girls, they won't talk cos they got no liver. We can analyse and vociferate on how much we love their properties and every godamn holes they've got, while they enjoy the plethora of innuendos, they only keep mute. Meanwhile, we ain't gagging them, I think they need to free themselves from the vassalage of being taciturn with such issues. They don't need to suffer in silence, the freedom of speech is for everyone. So my dear ladies, pls ventilate your opinions  Are you by chance related to Prof Sole shoyinka or patrick obayagbon? Abeg o |
Investment › Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Toks2008(m): 7:56am On Sep 01, 2016 |
RexEmmyGee: How does MMM generate 30% to pay participants?
This is a question that can never stop being asked. I have tried explaining this severally BUT its like "magic" to so many.
I understand everyone's fears that's why I will break it all down further mathematically below.
Let's say,
100 donations came in from 100 participants @2,000naira each = 200,000naira
In order for the 100 donations to be paid their 30%, that means 60,000naira extra donations must come in.
The BIG QUESTION is then how?
Here it is:- The 60,000naira wld come in through:-
(1.) Regular GH and re-PH from the 100 donations done by the participants.
Here is d maths:- 50 participants GH all their earnings + Principal donation = 130,000naira.
Total left over PH balance = 70,000naira
The remaining 50 then needs 60,000naira to get their own 130,000naira paid too.
The first 50 paid 130,000naira total then re-PH back their 100,000naira (maybe keeping back their total profit of 30,000naira)
That then adds up to the 70,000naira available to pay the 50 participants left (130,000naira).
++ So, the cycle continues on and on for as long as the principle of Regular GH and re-PH remains!!!
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This is just d same Principle Banks work with. That is why it is possible for just a deposit to serve 10 - 20 withdrawals.
And they pay you little interests for using your money to keep the redistribution process going!!
++NOTE+++ Don't come and do "Hit and Run" - The one u GH'ed and ran away with will soon finish and u will have to start all over again when coming back!! Why not just relax and earn for a longer period.
So whether new donations comes in OR not, the process of providing and getting help can continue for as long as all participants knows the whole process depends on their actions or inactions!!!
Secondly
(2.) New donations coming in through participants referring others to the community. This keeps the system consistently growing!! Every business (offline/online) needs new sales to survive..
Yes - MMM provides NO Guarantee and we all donate ONLY our "Spare Money"
BUT sincerely it can go on for as long as we all want since we all make the Community what it is!!
Always remember that in MMM there is
++ No Company Account!! Mavrodi can't wake up one day and ghost off with the money since we are not paying to his account.
++ You bank account/bitcoin wallet is MMM's account.
MMM's strength is the IDEOLOGY above that I broke down mathematically!!!
We are the Community!!
Together We Change The World.. Some times I wonder why people are so timid when it comes to taking advantage of opportunities. Though I'm yet to know how this MMM works even after going thru all you wrote but I remember promoting a clear money making system on nairaland which Seun and the mods kept bringing down and I just have to let go and I stopped promoting it here. You donate 60€ and you get 3friends to donate 60€ each and you get back your 60€ and also continue to receive donations of over 25000€ and intact the system is over 20years in existence and still growing strong The problem with many Nigerians is that we have soaked our brains with the mindset that you must sweat it out to make money and until we change our mindset, we will continue to lament about bad economy while allowing good opportunity to pass us due to ignorance. |
Investment › Re: SEC Warns Nigerians Of The Dangers Of MMM, Calls It Fraud by Toks2008(m): 7:44am On Sep 01, 2016 |
mckoolcharming: as I dey post I just received my pay for MMM...... mmm is for real I swear  I took time to study the pay plan and up till now I still see it crashing soon cos the pay plan is shrewd. The funniest part is that the pay plan in some MMM versions of other countries seem very dependable but this one of 30% monthly is ineffective and will eventually hit the rocks. I'm an e-commerce consultant and I was among those who first brought mlm to Nigeria in 1998 so believe me on this. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 7:36am On Sep 01, 2016 |
yorex2011: Truth is most guys are under 7inches which is perfectly normal. Just like 1 in 20+ guys are over 7inches. Between 4.7-5.5 inch girth is very good. If any girl is bothered about you size, just tell her to go and buy yam lolz.
Sex is 60 percent emotions, 30 percent skill and 10 percent size.
If you have the first two.. Thats 90 percent, plus size maybe 7percent, then you make your girl cum 97 percent of the time.
If na olosho tins then emotion isn't there, you prolly can satisfy maximum 40 percent of the time.
Rape, the first two presumably aren't there, so even if the guy has big dick, the enjoyment isn't there, Maximum 10 percent probability of satisfaction.
All these are from the female side of things though. These numbers hardly affect the male psyche
This are just personal opinions Insightful. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 5:59am On Sep 01, 2016 |
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Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 11:56pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
ayoolanr: Girth over length according to most ladies! Decent length between 6 and 7 inches with good thickness will make a girl cvm multiple times! Even if you suck at the actual thrusting at least you habe the tools and you can make your girl do the work, she can ride you reverse and normal cowgirl and even be ontop of you while she bangs your brains out! Ofcourse don't just lay there, kiss her lips and squeeze her tits and suckle on her tips and make her see the stars,the moon, mountains and the Rivers all at once!!! Hanhan! on top this matter na im you kon dey describe all these? Abeg no spoil people for here. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 11:33pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Berbierklaus: Well I'm not CEO yet,lemme go and sleep so o can report to my paymasters on time 
Omo kekere ara mi ni mi o  kai! so so naughty Odaro |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 11:25pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Berbierklaus: Lol ,I refuse to carry face up jor
Grandpa,won't you sleep,work dey tomorrow o I am a CEO so I resume whenever I want and tomorrow is eclipse so no rushing out. Though I know you are naughty but Never knew you are this young |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 11:15pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Berbierklaus: Na misspicy, bush man  Yeeparipa nah you?
Then I should be the one lamenting lol!
So na you be dat for your dp? carry face up |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 11:09pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
blaqiz: Announcement ❗❗❗ It was said on the news today that scientists have predicted that on Thursday September 1 we will experience annular eclipse from 7am to 10am and it might be so dark but we shouldn't be scared, all we should try our possible best not to look at the sky during that period because it can cause irreversible eye problem... ❗❗❗❗❗Thank you and do your best to pass it to people you care about Abeg how possible can one avoid looking up? |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 10:58pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Berbierklaus: This is not the first time  I have no clue. Ma Binu dearie. Oya carry ya head up make I see ya face. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 10:52pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
MmmS: which is small and can use it? Abeg stop lying to yourself! You ever wondered why small men father the kids of big men unknowningly? Abeg wake up from your dream oh! Big is all it takes to take a woman to the moon and back. You better go for enlargement before you take care of your neighbour's children o You are so wrong dearie. A 5inch who knows how to do preintimacy acts and good sex styles will satisfy a woman more than a cocky naive guy..trust me on this. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 10:47pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Berbierklaus: No you don't 
must you always abuse me  Habba! na joke o |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 10:13pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Berbierklaus: This old man again  lol! you no well.
I look far younger than your bae. |
Forum Games › Re: 2016 Nairaland Couples' Competition Planning Stage by Toks2008(m): 9:47pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
luxanne: It's just a weekend event and won't run for weeks.
The only thing you will be doing is just a poem and an essay, the image can be downloaded really and you won't be posting them but I.
And then your presence for the Q&A. ok just a weekend I might just give it a shot |
Forum Games › Re: 2016 Nairaland Couples' Competition Planning Stage by Toks2008(m): 7:52pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
dollyjoy: I nominate
oyind17 and baifrabushboy 
lezzlie and ishilove
skarlett and JeffreyJames
laveda and davep
eeerm Amina508 and toks2008 Just went through the preambles and I realize there is no way I can go through those process as I'm too busy to do all those. Thanks for your nomination but I will let it pass. |
Forum Games › Re: 2016 Nairaland Couples' Competition Planning Stage by Toks2008(m): 7:41pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
dollyjoy: I nominate
oyind17 and baifrabushboy 
lezzlie and ishilove
skarlett and JeffreyJames
laveda and davep
eeerm Amina508 and toks2008 lol! if we win wettin go happen?
She go be my automatic babe?
Anyway e be like sey Amina get better curves so that's OK.Lol!
Nairaland won't stop her intrigues. |
Sports › Re: Iheanacho Overtakes Mikel As Eagles Highest Earner by Toks2008(m): 12:13pm On Aug 31, 2016 |
Jostico: as simple as this
"In this life have a finite disappointment but infinite hope"
You don't know how it will happen but definitely it will happen Gbam! Just be hardworking and be hopeful. |
Romance › Re: Leaked Conversation Between A Prostitute And A Client Will Leave You Speechless by Toks2008(m): 12:48am On Aug 31, 2016 |
Staying sexually decent for single guys is not an option these days, its so compulsory cos just 3 visit by oloshos will let you have a rethink. |
Romance › Re: When She Asks For The condition Of Your Manliness. by Toks2008(op): 9:19pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
It still baffles me why lalasticlala ignored this informative thread...I believe it is decent enough. |
Health › Re: Proliferation Of Fake Condoms In Nigeria. by Toks2008(m): 6:40pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
amtaken: Why are there so many fake condoms in Nigeria today?
Most of them break while being used.
Can the Ministry of health look into this please, considering the fact that this could be hazardous to the health and can also lead to unwanted pregnancies? Must you use condom. |
Celebrities › Re: Toyin Aimakhu Blasted For Her 'Fallen Boobs' by Toks2008(m): 5:41pm On Aug 30, 2016 |
agarawu23: Some ppl are just ignorant and dumb. She is bursty, her boobs can't stand 
Should I blame them ? NO! Blame the olosho that can't keep her "private parts" private. There are boys all over the internet who do not know how a natural burst line should look. Don't blame them but blame the fake silicon boobs showcased on the media these days. |
Romance › Re: A deeper look into the act of masturbation. by Toks2008(op): 7:37am On Aug 30, 2016 |
Isaacmacdon: There are humans who can do without sexual urge, these set of humans are the ones who truthfully believe in God. Mary was a virgin, I guess you know the bible very well. Mary faced all the natural things a human would but still, she decided to keep her body not knowing she was going to carry the messiah. You keep saying the same thing. Many people on this thread has given you bible verses relating to this topic. This particular issue is a long and tiring one. I know and believe that the holy spirit reveals all the things that are true. Most people don't have a working conscience. The more you commit inquity, the more your conscience dies. The bible talks about been spoon fed. Isn't that the reason the holy spirit was sent to us?. We as humans are limited in wisdom and understanding. If you are going to refute all these things I said, then I've got no other choice than to ignore.
Please sir, I inquire your read 2. Peters 2 vs. 1-22. God has a message for you there. I'm amazed you just quoted Mary as a prototype of a sexually chaste lady who had herself under check. I don't know but Mary should probably be in her very young age when she had divine conception. I never knew anything about sex perse until I was 25 and my point is simple. You don't expect a 25 year old with a high sex drive to continue to keep the passion infinitely cos he or she does not know when marriage bells will ring and that's why we have high rate of fornication as well as other sexual immoralities. Even paul knew thre will be some people with self control who can remain unmarried and he said they can be but for those who can't control themselves, let them marry. Unfortunately we live in a world where you just don't pick a spouse from the street and marry yet natural sexual urge is independent of your marital status and this is my point. Sexual thought is never ever a sin and in fact lustful thought is not a sin except if it is aided by visual object. It is when you allow the sexual thought drive you to commit a sin that it becomes a sin and what is sin? sexual immoralities and I have quoted a bible passage that listed all sexually immoral act in page 1 or 2 I guess and God is too perfect to have vomited self sex. Its even strange that no one can bring up a verse that even comes close. Enough of this heresy..call masturbation any other name but sin. For those who can keep their body under control please go on as the lord is your strength. For those who have high sex drive please avoid fornication at all cost and ease out if you can't subdue the passion. The bottom line is that masturbation can be addictive if you allow it to take control of you just like any other habit like eating, Sleeping,talking ,watching TV playing video games and son on...these acts are not sinful but can destroy your life if unchecked. |
Health › Re: 5 Lessons Every Nigerian Should Learn From #savemayowa by Toks2008(m): 11:47pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
searchiing4love: There are many Nigerians who are suffering from several financial constraints. Some people can't afford to feed themselves due to joblessness, some people's education are on the line for a meagre amount of school fees which someone somewhere will spend on a bottle of champagne on a Friday night, some are critically ill and shy to seek for help and so on and so forth. The courageous one's who rather come online to solicit for help to solve their predicaments are mostly condemned and labeled scammers by ignorant peeps who believes all fingers are equal. Many are dying in silence because of the ridicule attached to begging. Nigerians will rather donate millions of Naira to you when you are sick with a life threatening disease but ignore so many people that needs just 5000 naira to rise above suicide thoughts. Some will tell you to look for what you can do in your environment as if the start up capital will fall from heaven. It's a crazy world we live in. What is the essence of the donations to Mayowa when it couldn't save her life? How many of the donors are willing to help hungry Nigerians? How many are willing to render help to IDP's? How many are willing to help that young man from been a drop out due to school fees?
We need to understand that humanity goes beyond helping the critically ill. Render help to those in need around you before their conditions degenerates into another Mayowa's story. Stop eye services and set your priorities right.
Rip to Mayowa, but I'm not impressed with the fruitless campaign  You made sense. |
Phones › Re: #1000nigerianwaystodie Currently Trending On Twitter by Toks2008(m): 4:08pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
Dshocker: WARNING: The deaths portrayed in this show are real and extremely graphic." "The names have been changed to protect the identities of the deceased." "Do not attempt to try ANY of the actions depicted." "YOU WILL DIE!" "Death...is everywhere. Most of us try to avoid it, others can't get out of its way. Every day we fight a new war against GERMS, TOXINS, INJURY, ILLNESS, and CATASTROPHE." "There's a lot of ways to wind up dead. The fact that we survive at all is a miracle, because every day we live, we face 1000 WAYS TO DIE. This program. has taught me two vital things 1. That 98% of death cases are due to carelessness of men. 2.That though death can come to both good and bad people but asides natural deaths and disasters, people with sinister nature die more. |
Culture › Re: Ooni Ogunwusi Leads In Worship In Church During Service (video) by Toks2008(m): 3:13pm On Aug 29, 2016 |
Zoharariel: Whoever crowned this charlatan & spoilt brat as the Ooni of ife is a bastard & a disgrace to the culture & tradition of the Yoruba land.
This is what happens when the stool is sold to the highest bidder.
Now, “Gboromidelerus of Jesus our saviour” - quote me & receive the flaming javelin of Ogun Lakaaye Oshimale straight to the heart. Were no bobo yi o. So he has don't wrong for leading praise and worship to the king of all kings. That ogunlakaye you are calling is a dumb God before Jehovah..joker |