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Sincere 9gerian: Take it easy a beg. We'r only having a debate here

Honestly, I just love your maturity no matter the level of insults, you have tried to maintain your cool, but please I will still urge you to oblige the SuperMods and Mods on the derailers and abusers on your thread since those of us who are Pro-Jonathan hardly starts the 'trouble' perhaps this should keep these trolls off our thread! I can't remember when last I enjoyed rich debates on Nairaland!

donroxy: Hmmm,Interesting !!!

Tomakints,

It doesn't matter whether GEJ controls not only PDP's NWC But the whole PDP..........

PDP is just a Name,tis the PEOPLE that constitute PDP that matters therefore it is either they slug it out with GEJ or dump the party for Him to a better platform !!! ........this happens most times in Nigeria politics (I distate it though ) !!!!

And we shall see d result ...... The Northern Oligarchy are no doubt ''PDP'' .........they called SW to power.......same SW played what he had to play and called UMYA(NW) to Power with Anointed SS by His side .......to either take over when He took over or 2015(after 8years) !!!


As for Tinubu............Quote me,Tinubu is not a Lord in SouthWest who can alpha and omegally determine who get what,when and how ..........


Tinubu only play the Card that people of SW wanted else he fielded wrong choice in Ondo and got defeated !!!


As for Tinubu,SouthWest and Jonathan ..........wether Tinubu or No Tinubu Jonathan would still had SW cuz this people are sympathetic to hardship suffered via the UMYA cabals,shoeless campaign(first of its kind),NigerDelta struggle as well as Chance to the Minority .........Tinubu was used to have a ''clean-shittt'' in SW .......Every damn man knows SW would vote GEJ ......as they(SW) fought the UMYA cabals for GEJ !!!



Atleast,Same Tinubu has tested his popularity in Ondo state and gotten result and unless His(Tinubu) Candidates are the best among the worst same Ondo scenario would still play out in whole SW .......!!!



Thereby,unless the real politicians are carried along........Otueke road seems smoother !!!

Do you know that one interesting thing played out in the last 2 elections in the history of this country and that is; the total votes garnered from the South-South was more than the total collated at the entire NorthWest and this tells you something, South-South are now getting more involved in the political scheme of things in Nigeria. Jonathan is a South-South indigene and this same game plan will favour him massively! Nigerian politics is gradually shifting away from the Northern Oligarchy manipulations and this is what Jonathan is benefitting from massively, and this is what the Northerners are fighting tooth and nail to grab back by force but you know in life there is what we call pay-back time, the Northerners had their times and they wasted lots of opportunities to better the lives of their poor ones which is even playing against them and let me reveal this to you, POWER is not ready to make an inroad back to the North, whether Yorubas team up with the Northerners, it will still tilt towards a Southerner, this is the gospel truth my friend!

Sincere 9gerian, don't worry one can use this latest rules now to act;

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donroxy: What is Nigerian Political Permutation other than ''ETHNO-RELIGIOUS CARD'', ''BULLYING'' as well as (worst case scenarios) ''MANIPULATING ELECTIONS VIA INEC'' or MANIPULATING JUDICIARY

I do not see GEJ as Powerful and Charismatic enough to tagged the three(3) outa the bolded above in one swoop ...........lest HE convinced the Cabals (most esp, the Northern Oligarchy) ........He would have a good ride to Otueke come 2015 !!! ..........


His (GEJ) best bet is to carry Nigerians along by engaging in Mouth widening projects ...........The cabals could be defeated by the people as shown in 2011 !!!


With APC @ the Corner,it seems the Northern Cabals has alternative even when ''Executive Powers'' stop them in the 'PDP' .......and the ''feofle'' not widely by HIS side as 2011 ........It seems the way to Otueke is now smoother !!!



Nonetheless, GEJ might even has seen the writings on the wall and chicken-out BUT used his utmost executive power to cabalise Himself,seek compromise ......and blessed his own (NOT HIM) anointed candidate !!!


If HE fails to trend softly without compromises.......Another Civil War is a Good Bet !!

Now this is a good point you have raised, Jonathan still has one full year (January - December 2014) to amend his ways before the electorates and his party strong supporters before the D-day! Remember, he schemed out Obasanjo strangle hold on the jugular of the party, so he is now the leader of the party, that means he can manipulate his way within the National Working Committee of the party, the money is there to spread around and he is a 'GOOD WATCHER' that one thing you can't take from Jonathan, he surrounded himself more with his people (SS) which is good for him, he knows when to approach his opponents and still have his way, (remember how he approached Tinubu and still garner strong votes from Lagos (Tinubu's constituency)! Donroxy, understand the matter, of course, things look bad for Jonathan presently especially in the SouthWest and Core North, but common this is 2013, we still have 2014 before the D-day, and going by the antecedents of Jonathan to amend his ways and behaved maturely before the judgment day, he will still have his way no matter what! What I just stated here is how politics is being run in Nigeria and that is the FACT!

karl max: The world's 10 worst cities to live in, according to the Economist Intelligence Unit global “liveability” study, which looks at how “tolerable” it is to live in a particular place given its crime levels, threat of conflict, quality of medical care, levels of censorship, temperature, schools and transport links.

1. Dhaka, Bangladesh is the worst city in the world to live in, according to the report, with an overall rating of 38.7 out of 100
2. Port Moresby, Papua New Guinea (38.9)
3. Lagos, Nigeria (39.0)
4. Harare, Zimbabwe (39.4)
5. Algiers, Algeria (40.9)
6. Karachi, Pakistan (40.9)
7. Tripoli, Libya (42.
8. Douala, Cameroon (43.3)
9. Tehran, Iran (45.
10. Abidjan, Côte d’Ivoire, which scores an overall rating of 45.9 out of 100

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/propertypicturegalleries/9478023/The-worlds-10-worst-cities-to-live-in.html#?frame=2311093

Well, I bunked in Ogba, and in my over 20 something years in that place there has been structural improvements but definitely the environmental challenges have been very poor, I used to stay very close to a naturally prepared 'closed circuit forest' where I can watch all those animals (monkeys, squirrels, snakes, birds of different species, and other mammals giving me a special treat whenever I can afford to watch them but now their habitats have been destroyed and all I see there now are 'concrete nests' we call houses, with no detailed plan from the authorities. Yes, I will go with this report on their assessment of Lagos, however the influx of migrants from the rural settings is too much for Lagos to bear, if not checked, the crime rate, uncleanness, insecurities and other challenges can only get higher which could be disastrous on the long run!

django1: Bro please ignore that monkey

This is what you get when 2 full-grown monkeys are consoling each other in an online forum when their mates are making money out there they are busy spreading tribalism and hates online! So sad

funnyx: Say whatever you like m0r0n it's not by force now? I've stated earlier I don't want to descend to your level, I don't want to be a lost soul, I don't want to be an ethnic bigot like you, look for people within your level monkey, I'm far beyond your class.

Funnyx don't want to be an 'ethnic bigot' in fact let me know the type of strong drink you are taking, you must be really high on that thing to really 'descend this low as usual'!

Tolexander: before today, i keep the record of ignoring gibberish and puerile words, today, the record continues!

I can't remember the last time I quoted this poster but I am conscious enough to know that this poster is a chronic bigot who had never made sensible contributions here always reveling in fanning the embers of discord! Already people of ur breed are on my 'ignore list' don't bother yourself!

rhymz: There is nothing like generalization here and stop pretending like you do not know that a Yoruba person likely wrote that article, this is not the first time such an article or debate is coming up on NL. . you can even ask DayoKanu how many times he and I had debated this particular subjected. There is nothing personal there, we are all giving our views and analysis, nobody is interested in insulting the Yoruba tribe, not me but I wont pretend either to give my opinion even if it is not popular. You don't have to like my views on this subject but it is important that you respect, that's all.

Quit debating with the potential tribalist who always want to sound more Yoruba than Oduduwa it's of no use! The object of this whole piece is vested more on personal opinions and if their is going to be any disagreements it should be against principles and ideologies and not against personalities as being displayed here by those who will always come here to cry more than the bereaved!

Ikenna351: Stop thinking you can fool everyone. You intentionally altered/ falsified the information from the blog you provided as the source to insult a tribe and cause e-tribal war. When i removed the post and banned you, you ran to a supermod who undid my action. Anyway, my case in this matter is with someone else, not even you.

Ikenna.

Ikenna I am personally praying for you against those bigots and tribalists here and even among your colleagues who are acting as double agents they shall all be put to shame very soon! Keep up your good works as for the goon you quoted, leave him alone he is living on borrowed times! Well done Ikenna, it is well with you!

donroxy: I knew it, thats what u would do!!! Joke of Nairaland


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20. Cooperate with the moderators, super-moderators, and administrator. Treat them with .respect ahahahaha
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Donroxy, trust me you started the joke with ur analysis, can't u smell the coffee that Nigeria's political permutation is beyond ur submission and the thread! Don't worry when 2015 will finally come and go I will remind you of my predictions my friend!

funnyx: Could you please desist from quoting me you deluded lost souls? you called me a bigot yet you have no proof, you claimed to choose your word carefully yet all your posts proves otherwise. I have told you before and let me remind you again, I DOT NOT ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO HAVE PROVED TIMES WITHOUT NUMBERS THAT THEY ARE INCABLE OF REASONING LIKE HUMANS SO PLEASE WAKA PASS.

the one and only Akiniku and Sango Olukoso of AYTN has issued Tomakint a warning and I am now quaking in my boot! Look son if you think flexing muscle online is the inthing for you then you never see anything, bloody hypocrite and bigot

donroxy: Na wah for you,Tomakint.........


The Op has said it all,Great Analysis.......



The only region that ''may'' actually vote ''ethno-religiously'' without considering performance of Jonathan is the SOUTHEAST and probably SouthSouth !!!


Jonathan flying power could still be broken in his Region SOUTHSOUTH with the internal tussle in PDP(Obj,Govs forum,Northern Oligarchy's presidential interest) and presentation of credible candidate by APC while taking into consideration religion and ethnic sensitivity..........!!!


Also,GEJ performances has been marred by genuine criticism which may thus mar Him in SW(Xtian and Muslim bloc) and NC(Xtian and Muslim Bloc) ....... Core North is a no go Area wether by Performance or No Performance-Ethnic card is the real thing in core north !!!



GEJ is not as Popular,Charismatic or 'Powerful' as likes of OBJ thereby He cannot unilaterally permutate 2015 even if he control all units of PDP unless Northern/PDP Oligarchy were convinced and Backed Him Up !!!

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As for APC, I adviced the party to present somebody from core north ,not possibly Buhari OR Buhari(the crowd is needed) and a Southsoutherner/Easterner(Oshiomole/Ngige/Rochas) :.........


SW/ ''NC (Not too so)'' would still vote enmass for ''CREDIBLE TEAM'' REGARDLESS OF ETHNIC OR RELIGION but same can not be said of SE/core north/ SS(not always) ........


By Credible Team(President and VP) led by Core North and SS/SE.........APC would have Core North(NW-NE),SW,significant votes in NC, and possibly satisfactory votes from SE/SS ......



Atleast this would be enough to challenge PDP.........APC should also focused great deal on National Assemble .....a very Good avenue to challenge the 'PDP' assumed it(PDP) Emerged ''Executive'' !!!




Team Jonathan do not have what it takes to permutate/Combinate 2015........!!!

Gbawe: My man, like Dayokanu advised, ignore him. Every one here knows what he is.

Unfortunately, Agba iya Gbawe has joined the fray

dayokanu: Just ignore the tool.

He is the one who is so ashamed of his tribe. Some people once they go to school in Yorubaland suddenly makes them Yorubas

Because they are ashamed of their kidnapping headquarter home state

Padi mi, o ye ko mo pe gbogbo wa o le sun ka ko o ri is bi kaa naa, why is that the moment someone from Yorubaland didn't share u guys (Association of Yoruba Tribalist on Nairaland, AYTN) political sentiments, he is automatically an 'omo ale' u guys uncouth behaviour online is indeed pathetic!

funnyx: I cannot but laugh when I see a lot of deluded lost souls on NL claiming to be Yoruba, today its their mum that is Yoruba, tomorrow its their father yet all they go about on NL is to attack anything Yoruba who is fooling who?.
A Yoruba adage says Omo ale nii fi owo osi juwe ile baba re another one says ti a ba ta ara ile eni lopo a o lee ri ra lowon
Please we have heard enough of how much Yoruba you are, could you just make your contribution and waka pass.

Ok Arole Oduduwa, keep sounding more Yoruba than Oduduwa as usual

funnyx: May be your lineage is the most arrogant set of people in Nigeria, that na your own problem. And if GEJ doesn't win in 2015 no need to close your virtual law firm you may as well get a rope and hang yourself like a real man.

Now you can see why I called you a funnyman a man like you came up with some points instead of you to bring up your strong reasons or points to counter his points you turn it into a 'bolekaja' wao, I pray especially for you that hatred will not kill you before your time son

Billyonaire: Tribalism, Regionalism and Nepotism are systemic dysfunctions in ANY Democracy, however, its a virture in the Nigerian Opposition (APC wanna-be).
Its a FAT shame!
Meanwhile, One man - One Vote, is what it boils down to when it comes to Democracy. So Yoruba or any other tribe is mute when it comes to Democracy. Those who propagate tribalism, do so, because "Crows Fly in Group" but Eagles Fly Alone. Political Crows have no individual strength but seek to gather as many weaklings as possible to make a single impact.

There is NO bloc vote called Yoruba Vote. So in essence, GEJ will eventually emerge PDP's Candidate for 2015 Elections and I am yet to see 'that' person in 'APC wanna be' that has to prowess to win GEJ in a Free and Fair Election. Let's be fair, there is NO ONE out there. GEJ wins, others mourn.

Omo see analysis from a brilliant chap, I just gbadun this guy!

oddy4real: We Yorubas have to be the most arrogant and ethnocentric people created by God. We have this 'I-TOO-KNOW' wahala. See dem Gbawe and Berem analysing politics like it is mathematics. Who told them that most of us Yorubas would vote for the APC? Who told them we are following Tinubu?
If GEJ doesn't win in 2015, I would shut down my Law Practice and return my practising certificate

Omo Iya mi, iku o ni pa e lewe, wa dagba, wa gbo, wa to o, iwo loo ri ehin awon ota ree ni oruko Jesu Kristi Oluwa wa Amin! Now to your beautiful point Oddy4real, the many typically-bent Yorubas here always assume they know it all, hence all Yorubas must follow suit when it is crystal clear that they were the ones heading for the bush! I wonder on earth, why would someone expect Yorubas to determine the fate of our next President, I can only continue to laugh at this thread and those who blindly support its warped contents! Oddy4real wa sere padi mi!

The political permutation of the writer of this article is warped to say the least! Jonathan will claim the lead in SS, SE, NC, get reasonable votes in NE, NW and SW and will definitely win in Oyo, Ekiti and Ondo States! You can quote me and tell your friends, I said it

Obiagu1: I don't expect you to be different from what you are in real life. So by your actions here, I can deduce with a certain degree of accuracy your character.

Anyway, it's kind of mind boggling that a grown man will be crying over petty issues like 'how to spell common names' over how many weeks or months now!

Or a grown man that's suppose to have responsibilities creating 30 monikers and juggling from one to another to evade the moderators just to air racial slur!

My brother that is the exact picture of what Nairaland has turned into, you see grown up men in their 30s, 40s crying over a Mod all over the whole place, when their mates are making money out there and living the good life

basty: The gods of my forefathers, Ogun,Sanpona, Sango, Obatala, Oya, Ologbojo, Iku, Esu, Ifa will destroy those that ridicule my Nation (Yoruba)

Sorry to burst your bubble, the gods are dead only one name can save you and that name is JESUS all those clowns you mentioned above were mere mortals like you who have since passed on, Captain Caveman!

Sincere 9gerian: "On healthcare, Jonathan gets an F. If a Nigerian gets cancer today and can't afford private treatment, he will die. Even obtaining aspirin in a public hospital can prove impossible"- Remi Adekoya

In fact there's nothing to disprove. The whole article is RUBBISH.

Take the health care system for instance, only a fool can assess it in two or three sentences like was done in the report. There are layers of health care system in Nigeria. The FG is in charge of the tertiary hospitals while the states, general hospitals. The primary health centres, which is closer to the people is controlled by either state govt or local govts. In Borno for instance, the federal govt owns the University of Maiduguri teaching hospital (though some of the teaching hospitals have outlets) but the rest of the hospitals in the state is controlled by either state or local govt. The FG can only equip its own hospital while the states do same to theirs. If Aspirin is not available in a state hospital, do we blame GEJ for that? So what was the author really assessing? In fact, I doubt if there's any hospital where basic drugs such as Aspirin will be lacking except maybe local govt controlled hospitals.

Even the statement that "If a Nigerian gets cancer today and can't afford private treatment..." is ridiculous. What form of cancer was the writer refering to? I'm aware that some forms of cancer can be managed in public hospitals (tertiary). But generally, cancer is difficult to manage even in advanced countries.

As a matter of fact, if the writer really wanted to assess the performance of the health sector in the last few years, notwithstanding the division of labour in ownership of hospitals, the proper thing to do was to compare health indicators, like maternal mortality rate, under-5 mortality rate, infant mortality rate, life expectancy,etc within the last few years.

I can go on to dissect other SENSELESS assessment in the article but that will be complete waste of time because the whole article is mere outpouring emotions and sentiments. I only did this much because of the challenge from you. End of story

You dey mind the 'uncircumcised Philistines' here, I can't count the numbers of times successful surgical operations have been carried out across the teaching hospitals of federal universities! A milestone was reached few years back when a successful operation was carried out on siamese twins conjoined at their bellies at Obafemi Awolowo University Teaching Hospital! Anyway, I am not pertubed about the incoherency and lack of steam in this thread since it was created by a well known demented dingbat

[quote author=sheyie2007][/quote]Seriously, I don't know

Let's wait to hear from Pastor E.A Adeboye, Primate Olabayo, Pastor Tunde Bakare, Bishop David Oyedepo, Pastor D.K Olukoya, Prophet Abiara, Bishop Okonkwo, Pastor Ukpahi, Prophet Temitope Joshua etc then let's compare and contrast from those who are hearing from God concerning or those hearing from themselves under the influence of hatred or bigotry, until then, yeye dey smell

solomon111: Btw,a state governor is complaining that Nigerians are difficult to please.
I wonder what he will do if he becomes president?
He will probably run mad from the "NORTH VS SOUTH" , "MUSLIM VS CHRISTIAN" , "MINORITY VS MAJORITY" ,"MEND VS BOKOHARAM" conundrum.

You sef dey see am so! They think Jonathan is on a rocking chair not knowing that the seat is actually a hot one! If a governor is lamenting like this I wonder what he would say if he happens to be the President! Nice observation Baba Fasho, but awa o ko yen je o, it is Jonathan till 2019

alexchiny: Can somebody please explain this post to me? Looks like ish written by a primary 1 pupil.

you sef funny ooo when I personally coined the moniker 'airhead' for that orphan everybody thought I was too harsh, imagine in d article the mumu posted Jonathan was given an F under healthcare sector? In fact egghead=airhead

Sincere 9gerian: Come and see wonders! So "AIRHEADS" can also create threads? Incredible!

Meanwhile, that article is sermon from Tinubu's temple

Ol boy laugh wan kill me for here 'airhead' a boy proven to be a hungry orphan wan show skill for Nairaland! Of course, I am not expecting any reasonable thing from a LOST SOUL like airhead kai the guy mumu no be small

2innocent: i will totally agree with the first four assertions, but the fifth is totally wrong.if u doubt, try relocating to southern towns like onitsha.if u survive the hard work needed to sustain ur self, den m wrong. u sould ask ur self why southerners troop in to the north amidst the security challenges. simply because competition is less

Do you still believe Muslims are more than Christians in this present Nigeria going by your analysis?

INDESTRUCTABLEX: Funny when a so called "representative" begins to talk like an illiterate. I am from Ijaw, I am not tribal in anything but trust me if the Northerners want war, they will get it, not minding their numbers. In my little residence at ph, I have seen few militants battled the Nigerian army for 1day... It was a death match, helicopters hovered the skys(I thought that was my last day on earth). A lot of these so called activists haven't experienced the perils of war. Living in mansions, they thinks if a civil war should start they will be spared...
For those of you not thinking, analyse what the economy of Nigeria will become if a civil war starts... If u no get money travel abroad, you are on your own. It boils down to the simple fact; the politicians and wealthy people will travel out of the country, the poor men will fight for a new nation. The rich men will travel back in and monopolize the nation.

You really nailed it with this perspicuous analysis you got here! I have bookmarked it already, good job bro!

alexchiny: Rochas the comedian. Hahahahahahahahahaaahahaha. See what cluelessness can cause! Retardeen Okorocha

No, no, Alex, I will have to disagree with you on this one, he is not a retard trust me, he is purely a 'schemer' someone in the mould of Tinubu, James Ibori,etc

jackbauersballs: OP please Format this Article.

Thank You

Are you insinuating that it contains 'virus'