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Imanuelle: Don't collect his cash.....

Don't accept his gifts...

Untils deres a perfect understanding!

But you and I know that in the Nigeria of today your first two suggestions are 'wishful thinking' babes need money, they want to wear better shoes, jewelries and the likes....men that one go dey tough ooooooooooo

ilugunboy: Let this be taken to the Joke Section and stick it to the top there till the actualization of Biafra....

Baba to lenu daku e ti de bii

...some guys will not just take 'NO' (no matter how polite) from a girl as answers, they believed every girl they come across must be 'a conquered territory' to those guys I say, not all 'territories are conquerable'

koruji: This is why paying them off is a waste of money, and actually much of this N384 billion will end up in the pockets of GEJ & his people.
These same people will be back on the job with the new PHCN after they collect whatever gets to them from these funds.
It is a simple as that - they are going nowhere.

...but why are you so 'pessimistic' in your sentiments? it's not helping your points most times

[quote author=D'Vanguard]Leaders starts from somewhere, be it gov or chairman, your stand on little issues decide ur stands on bigger issues. The president can reduce the expenditure if he so desire, starting from his home. I will always use Osun state as a point of reference where i have little privilege information about its govt. During Bisi Akande regime, he decided that the feeding allowance for state house should be cut reason that he has his wife whose responsiblity is to provide food for him and his family. This single policy lead to less amount on feeding of unnecessary visitors to state house. It cut slaughter of cow every day to maybe once or twice in a month. Why this analysis is to tell you, it is about the principle and belief of the leader not about the majorly the type of system.
Jonathan have not open the lid to corruption, but have cut the supply of some people who are busy crying foul and open the gate for another people. I dont doubt your words dat GEJ is doing his best but his best his not good enough for now based on the indices on ground.[/quote]...and the indices used by his critics to condemn him have just been tested within two years why not allow him to finish his first term before judging! I believe he is capable of delivering the goods!

seanet01: Good move by Jonathan.
Hopefully he will do something meaningful in the Power and Transport sector.
This is all he needs to get my backing in 2015.
But haven't we been here before?

Now this is what I am talking about at least a 'soul has been won over to Jonathan side' trust me, you just stick around bro Jonathan needs our prayers to really take us there! I kind of respect your view here only don't disappoint

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Enough of this tantrum-throwing fellas, its not worth it! Of course, you cannot rule out occasions like this in a gathering of Homo Sapiens, because we may see things the same way with our eyes, but we are bound to react differently with our minds, I will urge all brothers and sisters to sheath their swords and let peace reign at last! Peace

[quote author=D'Vanguard]I dont think it boils down to presidential system of government alone, the party ideaology plays a major role, OBJ when leaving Govt tried to reduce the ministers, boards, etc but when Yar'dua and GEJ came they increase it back. Presidential system might be expensive but the leader decides. Our presidency is overbloated, for example Osun state, it took the 8 months to have commissioners reasons, the governor claims the number of ministry is too much and the amount paid to them is high, he tried to prune it down and throw that he saved the state some funds, he his yet to appoint board members, reason - what really is their duty, it is just a means of increasing the govt expenditure and creating lots of bureacracy in the system. No doubt that presidential system is expensive but be can run it and reduce our expenditure. It is more of your belief toward issue and how u intend to solve them.[/quote]Good point raised, being governor of a state in Nigeria is quite different from being a President of Nigeria! My point is how do you cater for all those political elected officers' salaries and allowances with trillions of Naira annually not to mention the 'level of sleazes in high places' and a Nation will not go bankrupt!You will agree with me that money is liquid and needs to flow at all cost and so far so good, Jonathan is 'spending the money' in the appropriate quarters to ameliorate the suffering of the masses. I am yet to see any administration that has 'open the lid' on many sectors where 'corruption' is going on unnoticed as Jonathan's! You can go on castigating for all the laurels you want, it makes no sense and will never remove the fact that he is doing his very best to bring home the dividends of democracy to us all!

payless: I sent $1,000 to my brother this morning while he was at the bank. To my surprise, they refused to release the money to him except he agree to pay them 10,000 naira bribe because his driver's license expired 10th February, 2013. He also had his voters' I.D card and national card with him. They refused any other I.D ecxept drivers' license. What kind of corrupt country is this? When is this country going to start to do the right thing? How something like this should be happening?

If this is true, you should take them up on this, report your case to the superior of the 'bank official' who demanded such from you, that is errant nonsense, it shouldn't be!

...no link whatsoever to the Michael Joseph Jackson I used to know

Gbawe: If we had more contributing intelligently as you do perhaps the cretins here will learn or at worst be shamed into silence. Many here try to get the forum looking at issues but that approach is never successful because majority prefer a sentimental and personality-focused examination of every topic under discussion.

I have tried, to no end, to show that almost any Party will be better than the PDP if we inspect the core ideology and political leaning of the ruling Party. The PDP, because it shaping pillars are essentially the crude thinking of the military/uniformed class, cannot sanction any economic model which will truly liberate Nigeria to develop optimally via leveraging on merit and the notion of letting unbridled innate talent, present in all Nigerians, position us optimally.

We have not said any Party is full of saint and we are not arguing that Nigeria will become utopia under any Party. The consistent argument is that Nigeria will move frward considerably under any Party aside the PDP because the ruling Party is merely an apparatus with which former military men reinvented themselves in 1999 to continue the democratic despoil of Nigeria they had carried on , all too easily, previously in their military attire.

Ultimately, when some attain the mental maturity to enable them discern issues, it will be obvious that the PDP's ideology remains one allied to deceitful gradualism which was deliberately initiated , and nurtured since, to prolong the precise conditions that makes Nigeria so hideously underdeveloped.

You are still living in fool's paradise and you need to awake to voices of reasons begging for attention here, unfortunately, a Mr I-too-know like you will never come down from his high horse, you must have taken yourself to be one 'king kong bundy' so in your warped and egocentric views, an APC or any party system can take Nigeria out of this present mess past administrations have subjected us into. A presidential system of democracy is damn too expensive and filled with many loopholes and escape routes for corruption that's why not even past administrations could 'fix' the rot in the many sectors, the way you are acting like a mouth piece for APC or any party besides PDP to take over the reins of power makes me 'wanna cry for you and your folks' as if that will fix Nigeria!

Could this be the truth or something else?.....needs confirmation! Indeed, it's a belated one

pat077: first to lament. All we want is constant power supply. Shikena!

Since you are here to lament like other anti-Jonathan clowns, stay at the sidelines and watch those who are optimistic to air their views!

Promise kept at last....now let's roll!!!

[quote author=D'Vanguard]funny things will never stop happening in a great country like ours. They term Tinubu as a SW champion, Buhari as Northern champion, Shekarau as NW champion, Rochas as partly SE champion, yet they come together to form a party we still criticise them. It as if we dont know what we want. I like to argue in a practical and factual way. let compare parties and their control state in terms of their interest and use of power, development from internal and external resources. I stand to be corrected PDP has more states than most of the parties, have more funds, but development within their controlled state are minimal with respect to other parties. Lets not forget that if new names are brought forward the same people that are against the known names will tell you he would be a failure cos he is not known and he cannot perform. We all know that Fashola was not known but today either anybody likes it or not he is the best governor in Nigeria from his antecendent (present gov). I laugh when people say parties in Nigeria dont have ideaology. It tells lot about us cos we can see they have different approach to issues and different mindset but do we really understand the word ideaology. I doubt it cos most of our politicians and electorate dont understand the rudiment of democracy, its operation , its modes and operandi. there are lots of loop holes in our understanding. PDP's manifesto talks about pushing true federalism to its fullest, can some one remind one policy that PDP have pushed to favour true federalism, do they even talk about it. Tinubu have been a serious fighter of true democracy.( Tinubu/Obasanjo LG) that lead to the creation of Governor forum initiated by Tinubu himself to pressurise the FG, but today it have been hijacked by PDP. PDP ideaology is neoliberal (economic liberalism) and stance in its economic policies and maintains a conservative (social convervatism) stance while ACN is classical Liberalism and maintains a progressivism stance. Now do we understand the stance and policies under this ideaology, Nope. We are just good in making noise but we dont sit to read or study their differences. Nigerians have a lot to learn and understand in democracy, yet the motive of every body is to have food on the table, shelter, water, good road, good school etc but the way to go about it varies from individuals to groups of people.[/quote]Meaning, this is the party that will take Nigeria to the 'Promised Land'

doncartel: [s]Muhammadu Buhari for President and Rochas Okorocha for Vice-President.Buhari will deliver the North while Rochas will deliver the South-East and some parts of the South-South[/s].After the election,Yoruba will be given the Senate President while Niger-Delta will produce the Speaker.Looks perfect to me.Bear in mind that ethnic and religious sentiments can easily crash the whole APC alliance.Such sentiments are highly sensitive isuues here in Nigeria.Am very sure PDP would explore all angles to sabotage the alliance

..you and I know that (the crossed-out sentence) can never happen in my Naija! As for the candidates, Pick Me (tomakint) and Ilugunboy, trust me Nigeria will be the best place to live on earth, even Angels will pay us visits in this country, mind you this is not an Irony!

..my feeling all these while has been such that APC will likely field an Aboki (Original Funky Mallam in the mould of El-Rufai, Bafarawa, Shettima, but never a Buhari) as their Presidential Candidate while a full-fledged Igbo man (in the mould of Udenwa, and any other available ones but never an Okorocha) as the party's Vice-President! That is, NW/SE formula!

HNosegbe: Rubbish.

Seconded! Why? Her post has been proved and tested to be a 'hogwash'

[quote author=Omo_Tier1]Whether or not Aliyu is attacking the Presidency is not the issue for me, rather He has raised a vital question that NASS should look into! simples..[/quote]Exactly what vital question are you talking about please!

Gbawe: Attention-seeking mumu, go and find a thread of bigotry to take your fancy. That is your natural environment. We know cretins like you were not created with a capacity for discussing issues.

Your likes are not strange to me, you got 'undressed' in the market square and the next thing you wanna fight dirty, no word for you son, keep wallowing in your I-too-know psychobabbles it seems the 'fufu' you packed upstairs is not wired for logic you this 'Tinubu thug'

Gbawe: Are you not ashamed quoting and responding to my post alone? Please stop following me around. I don't like attention from lowlifes like you. I don't know what is indcated by how folks like you get obsessed with other forumers if not the fact that you have issues. The cretin Beaf behaved exactly same as this till he became deranged and imploded here. Who knows who you really are lurking under this lastpope user name.

Now the 'heat' is becoming unbearable and the only thing is to start 'begging' him to stop following you around, your 'beer parlour' psychobabbles have come under intense scrutiny and has been seen to be a ruse! Challenge the points he tossed at you or forever shut your trap, instead of this name-calling Mr Gbawe (take book or fast)