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olaboy33:
Do well.

Don't be like the likes of FFK, DINO and Reno.

don't hold your breath on that..lol

emmaodet:
You know, this issue of abroad, have realized not many people have the skills and knowledge to run a business. A
They just want to work so I have to understand with them.
As a matter of fact, 80% of the world's population just wants to work and earn not run a biz or create one because it is tedious.
Reason why even the people going abroad, after saving and converting to naira, what do they do? Just to buy land and build house for rent, or buy land to keep and sell later or send cars to be sold here.
Most never float a company or factory that will employ workers, generate monthly tax for govt and those are the real drivers of economy but it takes a level of dedication, skills and knowledge to do that.

There are opportunities everywhere in the world but it takes another level to see them.

One thing I know is that, those who fail to face their problems today, who are scared of trying a biz and fail before getting it right won't have a choice than for their kids to apply and work for those trying today.
They can't escape it.

guy why you drop the exact point I dropped na..lol. That is just it sha. The way a boss/business minded person thinks about money and a jobs minded person thinks about money na opposites. One is seeing 6 and holding on to it, the other is seeing 9 and holding on to it. Both will never agree. Both should do what works for them. Make everybody rest jare. It's been an interesting read tho.

ariesbull:
abeg no bring tribalism here.. I be pure bred igbo... Me no dey trip for japa... Na go do business come back be my own... Na the letter level we dey look

There are some great whiskies in Eastern Europe like Poland, Czech and other countries of Europe that are looking for market entering in Africa...

With 20m you can get to do franchises agreement to be their distributor in MEA region.. That is big boy. That is what I will do with 20m...

Send em email and do a proposal... They will invite you for talks you can travel if you want see Europe, sign agreement with them and come back and do your marketing...

Take this from an Igbo man

Stop blaming igbo man.. All those yoruba guys wey full Peckham for London na wetin...

It's just a crazy blackman mentality.. How can people sell their homes resign from jobs paying them from 300k upward only to go do 3 jobs a day and live in credit... Isn't that madness

yea, the summary is like I read from a poster (japarian) somewhere in this travel section, Nigerians may not be as enterprising as touted, and not just for now but even decades back. Only an enterprising mind can think the way you have just thought, but that can't be everybody as not everybody will have a business mindset (which is normal), and def not the wave of japa people I'm seeing.

Comradepreneur:
Read Previous thread: https://www.nairaland.com/7420371/how-reduce-hatred-cousin-brother

This is a follow up thread concerning the action I took after reading the comments.

I know I've failed as an older brother, to protect my siblings from their cousin. But I want to make amendments.

As such, the first action I took was to send my dad a text message, voicing out my displeasure on how he has been handling the issue regarding the harassment on my siblings.



And below, is his reply to the message, and my subsequent reply to him.

Apparently, the he took in the boy, so as to rehabilitate him. Meaning, the boy may have been previously doing this to his own sisters or may have attempted to do it to his sisters.

Did I also mention that he's a chronic lier? He lies even if caught while doing something he's accused of.

At this point, the only thing I could help my sisters with is to repair their door lock first thing in the morning.

I also woke up my cousin and sternly warning him of staying away from my sisters even in the daytime.

I also, intend to tell my Mallam, our Islamic cleric since my mom respects him a lot. And just maybe, he could talk some sense into her and my dad.

Thank you all for your advice. Your advices, has really helped me in order to become a better person than I was.

Any mis-step from him again, treat his fck up loudly!

PoeticMind:
Oga, quit peddling falsehood and ask questions or do your research before you make uniformed comments. He's spending at least 9 years if you discount the 2 years already served during the case. This is a US federal prison, not the UK or state penitentiary where he gets out after serving half the sentence. I also cannot see where the prison terms stated he was eligible for parole after a certain period.

eggzactly!

Awaoyelmoni:
Dude will do 7.5 and he's home free. It's funny that the west thinks it's in their place to decide what a crime Is and who a criminal is but refuse to discuss the wanton looting they and their likes carried out and are still carrying out in Africa neither are they prepared to make reparations. Simply because they own the media they tend to project and amplify only crimes committed in Africa whilst turning a blind eye to the impunity they perpetrate. Someone should tell them the evil that men do lives with them. Hushpuppi and other keyboard bombers are just taking back what they (the west) stole from us Safe this time it's in hard currency. Only the gullible ones will vilify them.

yea, I'm also going with 7.5, all the other rubbish wey you type no consign me.

sukkot:
even at that it still works out the same. 11 years. he served 2. thats nine left. 80 percent federal time cuts that to 7 years left. ad him being the best prison toilet cleaner and model prisoner 2 years in a row means he would get the early release pardon of 2 years. and so what he would sere is 5 years. out in 2027.

ok. If we go by the 9yr calc he would get 1yr 5mths off. At the bolded, I hope not! Mo fe ki were e pe lewon. On a serious note, however, I think all that still falls under the umbrella of 'good behaviour'. I wager the earliest he'll be out is in 7+ years which will be sometime in 2029. May the good Lord spare us beyond then. Hopefully, us both will still be interested in Nairaland in 2027 and/or 2029 to revisit this..lol

Poeticmind
pappilo
Intellectuall01

oba541:
he will be out in 4. he already done 2. by 2026 he will be released. prison year is 6 months he will be out in 4. he already done 2. by 2026 he will be released. prison year is 6 months...

wrong. Check my previous posts, read the Forbes link from SEP 2022 , then read the first link from Department of Justice Feb 2022.

pappilo:
Fake news! Not in the US. In federal prison he will serve a minimum of 85% of his sentence. Expect your hero back home in 2028/29.

you are correct. I addressed it in my previous post

Angelfrost you sef be correct nairalander, take note of this.

sukkot:
yes Sir apply the same logic to the R kelly situation. subtract years already spent and divide the rest by 2

so, I did some digging (I have always wanted to whenever this topic came up, but never got to it, till now). If he's on his best behaviour he can only get anywhere between 1year 8mths to 1year 10mths off in a fed prison. See the link below, all very recent Feb 2022

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2022/02/11/2022-02876/good-conduct-time-credit-under-the-first-step-act

See second update from Forbes supporting the earlier link SEP 2022

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2022/09/09/bureau-of-prisons-interpretation-of-first-step-act-will-leave-thousands-of-inmates-incarcerated/amp/

See my calculations using that table as a guide
Intellectuall01 is right

sukkot:
he will be out in 4. he already done 2. by 2026 he will be released. prison year is 6 months

I hear of this a lot. So does this mean R Kelly will also be out in like 13years? He had also used 2years and was eventually sentenced to 30years. Also, I can see the report specifies 135months. Does the fact that they used months override this position?

The bold and brilliant Vanessa Nakate (below) has said what needs to be said in this matter. Anything else is cheap meaningless banter amongst a group of selfish hypocrites. Let action be taken/mandated/required!

For those who don't know Vanessa Nakate, she is an African who Greta Thunberg still dey learn work from.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQV1s9IX6zk

Fira09:
SOURCE

let them keep adjourning till next year before conviction and sentencing. His travails are just too entertaining, I no wan make the season film end....lol. if to say karma fit spread him net wide wella so these bastards can be humbled, e for good, but NO, more and more of them keep escaping karma's claws further emboldening their resolve to do evil. Well, we will manage this ONE wey e hook laidat.

Sincerely yours,

Village people.

ArcChu:
Which type of nonsense story? Why do we have these type of weaklings in Nigeria. No wonder the olds take us for granted.
You mean that with all these evidence you rather write here than make life unbearable to everyone in that house until that boy leaves. Your sisters and mum depends on you to stop that shit happening in that house.
Please don't allow today pass before that miserable boy leave and never come visiting.
Don't tell me you are useless ��������

I tire o..person wey I go make sure say I give am bloody nose that first night...the whole house go wake up! Sleep bi ti bawo when person dey do that kin shit to my sis and I catch am korokoro.

Comradepreneur, not saying you should kee person pikin o, but why the hell haven't you smacked the shit out of that guy at least once? E be like say you never fight before. That first day you saw that shi, no be warning you supos give am, you should have given him som tip-top slaps and sliding tackles that will wake the whole house...open the whole fowl yansh yakata there and then, and let him know say you get choko. At this rate shey this guy no go physically molest your sisters bayi, if he hasn't already. Your family is playing with fire, maybe your culture isn't very harsh on this sha cos I don't understand. If you see how protective I was of my sisters in their teens ehn, na me dey police them esp my immediate younger sister, na two guys i smack for street on top her matter, on top how dem no desist from loitering around her, awon were fe fi aburo mi ka scores...dem even think say na soldier I be, as I no kuma dey smile. No ordinary loitering around me sister be that o. Y'all are playing with fire

jetwonder:
If this man was in Nigeria! Nigerian Government would have kill his talent.

very true..but again, not absolute. Ezra Olubi and co are in Nigeria, schooled here and every. Most of those wey don go, how many don achieve Ezra feat? Or this guy feat? It is just not about living outside Nigeria it is about what you have in you. If you don't have it in you, you don't noni yen (sadly most Nigerians don't). That said, absolutely YES the opportunities were available to him there to fire that greatness, like I once agreed with my friend Countversailles, whom I disagree with on most things..lol. Shalom

Way to go champ! Na the kin Nigerian people in diaspora wey I wan dey read of be this. People wey greatness dey in them like peak milk. Not some bozo's who spend all day converting their bottom-of-the-pyramid hourly pay to the shitty naira as self- consolation else they go into self-destruct mode by doing harakiri....lol

sukkot:
and they are thought provoking as you so eloquently put it. no one is taking the bait though lol

they can't take the bait, cos they have closed minds. Uni-directional lots. Whenever I dive in with some folks here on Nairaland, it becomes very clear that these one will prolly never be able to have a PhD in those 'developed climes', they would even struggle with a MSc. To write a good/successful dissertation or do research work, you can't be unidirectional. Dem don use uni-directional thinking swear for some people.

sukkot:
ahhh i understand your problem now . you are just a confused pesin . you started this thread saying how you were born confused lmaoooo
https://www.nairaland.com/5594597/no-longer-understand-life

very pathetic, weak-minded person. Imagine! He made a mistake. Simply admit, I made a mistake o...and prolly even continue with the argument. But no! They get defensive and show the most puerile display of wanton stupidity! Put these people in Washington DC they will still be monkeys, I swear down. People like this have very very very poor minds. Just say, I made a mistake Ifakiland, you won't die! Orisirisi eda lo wa o.

Oh shit!..is that blood or urine? I just hope she hasn't suffered blunt force injury to her bladder or something.,in addition to the fractured leg/ankle. Na ill-fated trip be this one o..so sad

okeysoninv:
even White indigenes are also doing the same work. Park one side with that ur mentality

true, but they aren't armed with PhD's or MSc's. I think I may be racist. Most people don't get this, but I must confess for years now, I don't get why people fawn over white folks, it irritates me. Whenever I interacted with them, I wasn't rude or arrogant but I exuded the 'behave around me' vibe. I have an air of superiority around them that I don't have even around fellow blacks or Nigerians. I can't get over the fact that the lowliest of them comes here and enjoys like a king, and the best of us gets there and has to start from scratch to 'prove' himself. Back in 2011/2012 I worked with a blindness prevention team that did free surgeries for eye ailments in Lagos. Twice a year they would fly in a medical team to join in. On screening days, the foreign optometrist would only see 5 a day, our guys would see AVG 200 patients each. Our guys would get 10k daily, while the oyinbo would get, you know the answer. They would ferry them to Radisson Blu at the end of each day, and there was even a budget for a cow for their entertainment. We did all the work!!! Enough PHD and Msc holders that were tip-top often find themselves stuck in these 'menial' jobs with silly excuses like skills over certificates, but it just doesn't happen the other way round. That shit pains me a lot cos I don't think these people are special, so why?? Skills over certificates? Dem no recognise the education, years of experience with great transferable skills before dem come up with express entry ni. Shey na for those menial jobs those erstwhile experienced folks go get key skills that will take their career to the next level, doing Uber, delivery guy and all that. The king and slave metaphor that the guy you quoted used, is an overused phrase but it just still holds true for me. I just might b racist. I don't wish them harm, but I just can't handle just the thought of being at the bottom of that power dynamic or food chain, even on their turf, cos they soar on our turf too. Best way I can put it is, I would rather let my wife buga me or feel like she can buga me, than let a white person feel that way (by buga I don't mean confrontation, I mean just by them simply expecting that with my years, education and qualifications I should be happy to take a job that a comparable man like myself over there with same years in and qualifications won't be offered). Dignity in labor or not i'd rather die!..lol. I really think I'm racist....

ISTP:
https://punchng.com/why-there-are-no-menial-jobs-in-canada-us-uk/

after all the story (which is needless by the way), fact remains they are menial jobs. Long, wordy paragraphs don't change facts. I don't know what this thread sought to achieve IMO. Oh well!

VULCAN:
You sound like someone eating govt money.

They are the ones that ignore the fact that Nigeria has at least 90m people who are classed as Extremely Poor.

They are also the ones who cannot feel what the average Nigerian is going through because they have access to easy money.

A single Inverter battery is N160k for 12v 200A

Min wage is 30k.

So a poor man will use his entire 5/6months salary to buy a single battery.

How long will it take him to buy an inverter and Solar panels?

Mtschewww

lol
Quoted the wrong person/thread.

Nosayer:
At all.....Elon Musk knows nothing about business. Just woke up one day and became world's richest!

my guy, this your sarcastic reply was tailor-made for that silly post. Kudos

Hushbingo weere! On a norms, I suppose advice you say don't drop the soap, but as bingo wey you be, by all means drop the gaddemn soap nigga...lmao

gasparpisciotta:
For all those saying Tinubu has been scammed, is it easy to scam a political albatross like him?

lol. Not to worry. Come 2023 all will know if he is truly an albatross as touted or just a teensy weeny hummingbird.

Omo mi! Wa sere, Wa dagba, wa darugbo. Gidigbo straight. Gbayi!

sonnie10:
The reason people don’t eat indomie here is because it’s not a healthy option
Food in Nigerian restaurants here is not more than $10-15 a plate. Same with a piece of burger meal. It affordable to most. Because that is one tenth of daily minimum wage
One thousand naira plate of food in Nigeria is one third of daily minimum wage.
I just like to practically about these things.

ok o. Me, I don't eat indomie/golden penny...these our instant noodles sha. Too many chemicals. I hate it and don't believe it is a healthy food (tho I can't prove this) BUT my padi's wey dey avoid am na cost dem talk say be their reason not health. Also, I have read many posts from people here, either they are advising others or the people themselves are talking about how they have decided to reduce/replace Nigerian foods, and it is always for cost reasons. If you look around, you are sure to see these posts. It's all good sha.

sonnie10:
Let's compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges

Here is my take on this;
Abroad
For minimun wage job, at $12 per hour, when you work 8 hours your make $96. Net (after taxes) would be about $80 for a day's job. If you have an internet plan of $30 monthly, this amount would pay for 2 months plus.

Nigeria
For minimun wage job, at #30, 000 salary for a month, that equivalent of #1k daily. Now, if you have like you said Airtel at #5k per month, you would have worked for 5 days to afford your montly internet bill.

Is this not what these discussion is about?

first of all, let's be clear, I'm not getting dragged into a comparison of country Vs country. That is not what I'm in this discussion about. I am not interested!!!

However, as a lover of intelligent discourse let us dive into this. The answer isn't absolute, but rather relative. That something can be afforded by people doesn't mean it is inherently cheaper in absolute terms. Stay with me. I am aware that indomie noodles is priced a certain way in the US and I'm sure other countries too. Some Nigerian foods are priced higher than other foods indigenous to those locations abroad as well. So if a carton of indomie is say $40 (3k+ here) or a plate of a Nigerian delicacy is (1k here) $30 at a restaurant, despite your clear minimum wage calculation for the two countries would you say that those foods are more expensive in Nigeria?

You may say yes, but I'll say no. Reason? Even despite that minimum wage, many can still keep up with eating indomie and the local delicacy, while typically a Nigerian in US wont. I know people who deliberately run away from indomie there, not because they can't afford to, but it isn't something they can keep up with, it doesn't even make sense when there are cheaper alternatives, and ultimately because it simply is not cheap, even despite that like you have analysed they can afford it based on the math. There are tons of posts here about ppl being encouraged to adapt to eating the foods indigenous to their locations rather than Nigerian food cos it ain't cheap. Just look around travel section you'll see them. But based off this math, they can afford it, but yet can't afford it. It's a catch22 sometin.

AfonjaPriest:
The housefly (Musca domestica) is a well-known nuisance. This fly Musca elonis, has got balls, and they are very big.

afi Musca elonis..lol.

A short story about Musca elonis. There were many Musa paradisiaca. Musca elonis came in and removed the musa's from the paradisiaca. The end!

twosquare:
I believe it will succeed...not just via insight, but also through this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQxcYY_opHc

Watch from 13:30 -14:30

Keep on...

I will watch it. Thanks for sharing.