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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 3:19pm On Apr 09, 2023

chieveboy:
I very much understand what quantum physics says about this. Kindly confirm if you're from that background and let's have a technical discurse on that in another thread.

No. You would continue to deflect with that as you have been doing in order to avoid providing what one can use to independently verify your claims. At the beginning I only requested for proof or evidence,which unfortunately you simply can't provide up till now. Now here we are with you trying to lecture me about fiction in quantum physics when you already placed the word ,fiction, in quotes, meaning it's not the same way it's understood by everyone.Fiction is fiction. If you think it's not then the onus lies on you to prove otherwise.

You're excused once again

Lol. My friend you're on an ego trip when you keep repeating the above.

Excuse yourself and not me. You know science very well, but you simply can't show that you know what it takes to prove what you have claimed.

Bringing in quantum physics is you trying to bamboozle me and throw me of balance with what you assume you might know more than me. You don't expect me to succumb to such cheap pyschological gimmick, and then accept , without thinking, that what you claimed is true. Try another one.

Just stick to proving a certain Tibetan whom you claim is over 500 years old is still alive and living somewhere in Tibet or any other location
It's as simple as that or you forget it. .

As for anything other thing in this your latest reply, I don't want to waste my time. Too much evasiveness in those; 'my father might have drawn' and all that ,is you not wanting to be straight forward. You continue to speak in parables .

You know what I asked you already. If you can't answer them, then just forget it, and let's meet some other time to discuss something else.
Thanks

Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 1:44pm On Apr 09, 2023

chieveboy:
And I mentioned "In our religions books kwa", did you get that part?

I would excuse your perception of fiction.

This is because even ordinary quantum physics tells you, no such thing as "fiction".

Any wild fantasy and imagination you can muster is 'real'. All of it. You cannot imagine anything outside 'existence' or 'creation'.

This is another story for another time.

It seems you derive pleasure in putting the blame of what you don't understand very well on others. You don't really know what quantum physics says about 'fiction' ,and of course , I can see you placed it in quotes.

Instead of excusing my perception of fiction, you should make clear where you're coming from.

There's fiction, if not, we won't be able to differentiate between what is real and not real.

And, it's not even true or correct to say that 'any wild fantasy and imagination' one can muster is 'real' because it's impossible to imagine 'anything outside existence or creation.

An imagined image of a human being or anything in one's head is not the same as that of a being existing outside somewhere in material form. You don't seem to know this difference, and it may be the reason you believe those masters are real, without any outer confirmation they exist or have existed in the past materially.

One would need to confirm first that they exist in material form somewhere before one can take serious any vision of seeing them, if not one is misled.

According to you, your father saw a vision or dreamt of Harold klemp years back before he later got to know that he, Harold, actually exist in a material form in the US, and he's also the spiritual head of Eckankar.

For the Eck masters, apart from seeing them in a dream or vision, have you or anyone else met with them, (especially the over 500 year old Tarz ), physically to confirm they actually exist añd not just your mind playing tricks on you?

In other words have you been able to confirm if Rebazar Tarz actually exist in material form in Tibet or elsewhere he might currently be residing?

The human mind is capable of creating anything we strongly believe in and make us experience it as real. This is what I know and have confirmed for myself.

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Politics › Re: Chimamanda Adichie's Epistle Of Garbage By Femi Fani-kayode by triplechoice(m): 12:17pm On Apr 08, 2023

Lol

Who let the dogs out?

Who?, Who?, Who?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 4:49pm On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
The problem is you didn't quite digest the gist, if you had, you will understand that these masters are not in the business of popularity contest or validation not to talk of posting their pictures to the world to say "see o, na me be dis".

You're the one , not me, who brought in celebrity an popularity talk and now using it to deflect instead of providing proof that a being who's over 500 years still exist somewhere in the Hindu Kush mountain.

Metaphor or drift which seems to still elude you is in the idea of an Eckmaster having an Instagram account. So as to post videos of his/her miracles for people to believe them.

I'm afraid you're reacting subjectively to my questions. Having an instagram account to post videos is not my idea, but yours because of what you imagine I might be thinking.

Religious book kwa. Eckankar remains a science just as physics and mathematics. It exists whether an organization exist around the subject or not. This includes books.

No. Eckankar is not science just like physics and mathematics. Eckankar is a religion founded by Paul Twitchell. That's what we know, and I don't think you can prove that the religion is the same like the natural sciences.

People awareness of them isn't even a concern so long as this allows them do their job. Someone living in such remote location seeks validation to you?

I'm not asking him to 'seek validation' to me. You're the one imagining that. Just prove that your claims about him are true. Unfortunately, you have not even tried to do so.

You can forget about if you can't. It's not a must .

Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 4:09pm On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
I think you answered your own question. In the bolded. "To find out" is your answer.

Are you scared of meeting a fictional person? Well they are very jovial and easy-going folks.

You ignored ' in your religious books' in my reply

A fictional character is not 'there' and so where would the fear come from?

Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 3:27pm On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
On not being a celebrity, perhaps you will understand more about metaphors later.

Besides, what stops you from meeting him? I told you he is very much around. This way, you won't need any artist impressions or a nairaland post that is likely fake or fabricated

And why the obfuscation if the person you're talking about is real?

A metaphor is a direct comparison that shouldn't be too obscure for people to understand easily.

You're probably speaking in parables here but I don't see the point in the context of the ongoing conversation.

As for meeting him, why do you want me to meet with a person that you have been unable to prove actually exist ?

How can people meet him if actually he is a real and not just a fictional character in your religious books

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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 2:37pm On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
If he was a celebrity, I am sure he would love to pose for the camera sometime.

Anyone can request to see him though in person if they are interested. Time and space are illusions.

What then is the difference between a camera man and an artist capturing the image of the same person?

You think he won't pose for a camera because he's not a celebrity or looking for recognition yet this same person has allowed his image to be put down on canvas by an artist to serve the same purpose.

Posiing for a camera is not what makes people celebrity ,but what they have achieved or done .

And, how do you request to see him in person when he won't allow his authentic image to be captured by anyone?

Certain things are not adding up here

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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 1:30pm On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
Doubt is good. It's the first stage of verification. I had told you that you can meet him of you wish.

We in Eckankar do not do blind beliefs. We verify. This is how all religious claims and whatnots should be verified to.

Man is created to naturally be capable of expanding his awareness beyond time and space. This is not like a blurry dream that you struggle to remember. Its much more clearer than when you take the best nootropic out there, and much clearer than you best sober moment.

This is not about doubt but you mentioning something that one can't verify independently.

What other sources apart from Eckankar books, confirms that the being you described is actually existing at this point in time somewhere in Tibet?

Any?

I don't need to go through any spiritual means to confirm that a being that is living physically somewhere is real.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 12:13pm On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
If we have a time travel machine perhaps...

Oh!
This doesn't help.

Anyone can also make similar claim that you have made, and when asked for proof , reply with the excuse of a 'time travel machine perhaps'

Your claim about Tarzs teaching Mozart still remain very doubtful.

Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 12:02pm On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
These guys are not interested in recognition, validation, fame and whatnots. He could live in the best buildings humans have never seen nor imagine in their lives...

I only asked for an image to confirm what has been said about him ,and never suggested Tarzs is looking for any kind of recognition.

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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 11:55am On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
Lol, wait till you hear about the others. As he inspired Mozart, so he did diverse inventors and even movies which tries to explain some truths and realities to man veiled as science fiction.

'wait till I hear others' surely can't be proof of him teaching Mozart. Is it?

Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 11:52am On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
How can you have a 500yr old image of a person teaching?

Or do you mean a selfie of himself? Or maybe his Instagram page?

Your initial description of him shows he his still alive and over 500years .

If that's true then why is it difficult to get a current image of him?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 11:44am On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
Yes. He teaches a select few and sometimes a crowd even in market squares.

Do you have any recent images of this over 500 year old teaching in a crowded market in Tibet or anywhere else?

I just saw the one about Mozart in your edited reply. How true is it that he taught Mozart? Never heard that before . Any proof ?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Meet The ECK Masters! by triplechoice(m): 11:29am On Apr 07, 2023

chieveboy:
https://www.eckankar.org/explore/spiritual-teachers/

Is he known to the Tibetan people?

Is there any evidence of such a hut in the Hindu kush mountain?

Five hundred years old in a physical body! Who said so?

If Rebazar Tarz is still alive ,why an artist impression of him, and not a real photograph captured with a good camera?

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Christianity Etc › Re: ************************** by triplechoice(m): 12:58am On Apr 06, 2023*

jaephoenix:
What are such scientific secrets

Scientific 'secrets' or technological 'secrets' exist as insider information ( further details) or inventions not revealed to outsiders until the right time or may not be revealed at all.It's not only in the sciences that will find this.

Every other field of human endeavour has 'something' which is not openly discussed or exposed publicly, and there are reasons for this.

1. To maintain the advantage which it gives to those who are privy to It.

Secret police or spies of some technological advanced countries are usually the first to use certain inventions to aid their espionage work before it's sold or exposed to the public.

2. To withhold certain information that would have caused the public to react in a particular manner that may not favour those pursuing an agenda.

3. For the personal protection of those using such secrets' in their businesses or whatever else they use it for.

4. To prevent misuse of the information or invention by the inexperienced public who may hurt themselves with it.

These are some of the reasons.

However, secrets in the sciences don't always stay hidden for long, a scientist somewhere would get to reveal it somehow.

But elsewhere, they may stay hidden and never openly discussed, so that even when you get to hear of it through other channels, you doubt if such a thing actually exist or is true.

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Christianity Etc › Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by triplechoice(m): 4:04pm On Apr 04, 2023

LordReed:
Which is what the likes of OLAADEGBU will refuse to advocate for but would rather send thoughts and prayers.

Guess what I just even saw, staff of the school had guns! Another of their precious talking points is how they should arm teachers. This case shows that is not a realistic solution either.

Nobody is saying regulating guns will solve all the problems but it has to be better than this. Other countries have instituted strict gun control laws to significant benefit, why continue to rely on thoughts and prayers and Jesus taking the wheel to no avail?

It's obvious why he won't listen to common sense suggestions. The instructions in his religious book, the Bible, which influences his responses on issues like this will not make him consider anything else.

He believes trans people are the way they're because they're possessed by demons.

Morever, he is not even aware of how societal stigmatization can push such persons over the edge and make some of them to act irrationally.

Not understanding this , is the reason he incorrectly thinks the narrative is being changed to support the shooter .

Imagine how it would feel to live amongst ignorant people who think one is insane or possessed by demons simply because you're not like them or choose to live your life differently, without harming anybody. That's how this people feel inside when society stigmatised them. Some of them just can't deal with it.

At first ,one is misled into thinking the op is really sorrowful for what happened to the victims of the shooting. His latest comments has shown he is not .

Ola believes certain individuals are already condemned to burn in hell . So he sees this particular incident has an opportunity, not to be missed , to drive that home for anyone who cares to listen

You would only waste your time to continue to drag this with him.

I had thought he was saying something, but after you provided those extra details about the shooter's mental condition, everything fell into place.

Who blames a mentally unstable person for a crime they commit?

They blame should rest squarely on the shoulders of those who haven't done enough to ensure guns are not possessed by the wrong persons in that society.

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Christianity Etc › Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by triplechoice(m): 11:30am On Apr 04, 2023

OLAADEGBU:
A.F. Branco Cartoon – Day of Vengeance
A.F. BRANCO on April 3, 2023 at 7:00 am

Special Hell SM
https://comicallyincorrect.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/04/01-spehell-sm-1080-1050x750.jpg
There should be a special place in hell for people who Sexualise, mutilate, or deliberately kill children. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2023.

Even the insane who are incapable of knowing between right and wrong behaviour should also burn in your hell?

Christianity Etc › Re: ************************** by triplechoice(m): 1:58pm On Apr 02, 2023

MindHacker9009:
I was naive in the past but now from some experience I now believe that juju mirror truly exists, but why does no one that has seen it want to talk about it?

Maybe it's because they know that the public would reject such information. or ask for proof,

And if such a thing actually exist, I don't think those who are possession of it would want to publicly announce it. It would be kept secret .

Even in the sciences, there are scientific secrets not reveal to the public.

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Christianity Etc › Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by triplechoice(m): 11:03am On Apr 02, 2023

LordReed:
This particular shooter went out and bought a number of guns with large capacity despite being treated for mental illness. Do you think people with such medical histories should have access to guns?

Thanks for providing further information on the shooter's mental health. I didn't know that, and it's not even mentioned in the Op.

People like himself shouldn't have access to guns of any kind. They should, instead, be locked up somewhere or closely monitored all the time.

Christianity Etc › Re: When A Trans Person Murders Christian Schoolchildren by triplechoice(m): 10:33am On Apr 02, 2023

LordReed:
Leave the myopic snowflakes. Every time there is a mass shooting in a school, they want to talk about anything but the proliferation of guns.

Do you think there are no alternatives available, apart from guns, for someone who wants to carry out an hate crime?

And if proliferation of guns are to be blamed, then why is the same kind of crime not being committed by others (everyone one of them)
having a gun and facing the same kind of pyschological pressure from that society?

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Turn Theist by triplechoice(m): 6:20pm On Mar 28, 2023

StonesA:
you gat my point. Thanks for your understanding. i am not talking about religious god at all. i am talking about our higherself which is our sub conscience mind.

Then focus on explanaing how your higher self, subconscious mind ,has aided your healing.

That's the only thing that would help to erase the confusion the title of your thread has caused in the minds of some of your followers.

I don't see how you're a theist yet from all the things you have explained..

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Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Turn Theist by triplechoice(m): 1:32pm On Mar 28, 2023

LordReed:
Well he says he is now a theist so how is it misrepresentation to say he believed in a god to get healing?

I know. I think he has used the wrong descriptive term. I'm yet to see how a god or God should come in now based on what he has narrated about his personal experience.

He has even refused to acknowledge any god, but only mentioned spirituality and higher frequency

Those ones don't mean god .

Christianity Etc › Re: Atheist Turn Theist by triplechoice(m): 1:08pm On Mar 28, 2023

StonesA:
is not a joking matter bro. before i was like you believing that everything is science but life prove me wrong. right now i am not religious but i am spiritual. there is more to this world that no any science or religion can explain

I'm afraid your Op is not detailed enough for people to get your message. As you already can see, some persons are already misrepresenting you

You make it seem a god helaed you from whatever was plaguing you at some point in the past, whereas from what I can deduce, from your story, you only used an alternative means to get cured and now describing it as spiritual.

IEven though I'm not an atheist myself, I know there's nothing in atheism which says atheist shouldn't seek for alternative cure when medical science fails.

Some atheist are known to meditate to manage depression or other health issues, and we know that is not something your regular doctor would recommend.

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 11:38am On Mar 28, 2023

Flamemignon1:
Glad you called it an opinion and not a fact. Good day

Let him affirm himself that they were his own personal opinions and shouldn't be taken as facts.

He once wanted me to educate myself on what doesn't exist; homosexuals were the first people to have anal sex which made the Yorubas to coin the word, adofuro,, to describe same sex relationship. That was what he asserted confidently.

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 2:19pm On Mar 27, 2023*

Flamemignon1:
Ain't this something but not surprised,a bigot will always be a bigot and please don't tell me to cite any sources because it's already obvious you will be unwilling to accept the truth as the debate will be dead on arrival and to even make your stupidity more stunning,he cited sources but you went on a hate tirade to avoid the truth without citing one source. Go suck Massa's dick

Why don't you allow the person my reply was meant for respond himself?

And besides, where is the bigotry in my post? In your head anyone who challenges an atheist claim must be a bigot even in situations when it's reasonable to do so?

The person you're defending had declared, without enough support, that homosexuality, same sex relationship, was widespread back then in Africa; our ancestors were all immersed in it ,and I said no way.

I accept we had in some cultures sexual display or habits that parallels homosexuality, but not rife everywhere.

That's my position. You should have understood that first, before jumping in with your emotional rant.

The sources, your friend kept inundating me with , only contain few instances in some remote regions in Africa, where what can be likened to same sex relationship was observed
Those few cases, I have maintained were not representative enough for the whole of Africa for anyone to generalise with.

If you want to join him in such stupid generalisation, then provide figures, not just empty commentaries alone, of the actual number of cultures that same sex relationship was observed during those period. Provide accurate data or something much closer to it. That's what I ask for.

A remote region in Lesotho where 'same sex relationship was observed, is not all of that country. The same with a remote part of Uganda, Nigeria and elsewhere mentioned in those articles.

10% of something or less than that figure, is not 90% of that same thing Anyone who says it's, need their heads examined.

As for your "Massa's d**k", please next time ensure you don't skip your medications.

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 12:23pm On Mar 25, 2023*

jaephoenix:
3. About Adufuro, I'm not yoruba, but you can always ask about it. Heterosexual anal sex was was predated by homosexual anal sex. You can educate yourself by reading up the history of sex(as a whole) cos it looks like your ignorance is turning cancerous

Calling someone ignorant doesn't make them that.

The claims you originally made ,which you're now trying to deflect from are listed below;

1. Africans were 'immersed' in homosexuality.
2. Africa was a hotbed of homosexuality.
3. King Mwaga 11, was the first prominent African to be openly gay.

The first two, I said were very wild claims, while the last one is misleading.

To be immersed in something, means to be engrossed in an activity without attention given to anything else ,nothing else matters.

Unfortunately,you haven't succeeded in proving that Africans were fully focused in homosexuality before the coming of the whites or christianity. You made the mistake of using the wrong descriptive word to describe what happened back then.

If it were true Africans were immersed in homosexuality in the past, then it would be readily observed everywhere and not just in some few remote locatons.

What of your own community? Are you not an African, where you are from? Were your people not focused on homosexuality too? Why don't you start from there and let's see if someone from the same community as yours would not come to challenge you.

A Yoruba person who's closer home and is well informed about the history and culture of his own people as come to say homosexuality is alien to the Yorubas. But you rejected it even when you're not Yoruba yourself or know much about their culture

To the number 2, In the context in which you have used the word ,hotbed, you actually meant that before the coming of Christianity to Africa, our societies were a breeding ground for homosexuality, meaning our environment favours and encourages homosexual relationship. This claim of yours is from your imagination and it's simply because you don't know the actual meaning of the word , hotbed and the other one immersed., both which really means the same thing.

Homosexuals, those in same sex relationship, don't procreate at all. Anal or lesbian sex doesn't lead to
procreation. Heterosexuals, are the only ones capable of reproducing sexually in any human community.

So, if it were true Africa was the hotbed of homosexuality and we were immersed in it, how come the population back then continue to increase to the extent slaves were being ' exported' to different parts of the word without a marked decrease in population size?

Theory of Evolution says, if a group is not actively reproducing sexually the consequence will be a drastic reduction in its population size.

You brought in modern day India as proof that a country whose citizens are mostly homosexual will not have its population reduced.

But you failed to provide any data for those engaged in same sex relationship in that country to aid accurate interpretation of happenings there. It was another failed attempt to use deceptive argument to wriggle yourself out of the tight corner your lies has placed you in.
There's no evidence India is a breeding ground for homosexuality or that they're immersed in it as you want people to believe. You continue to lie without shame

Now to the final one, I reject the tag of king Mwaga 11 as the first prominent African who was 'openly gay'. That description is a product of gay propaganda.
There are no evidences the King displayed that lifestyle openly .
Mwanga 11 was married to different women who produced many children for him, yet you want people to believe he wasn't interested in women . I'm willing to accept, at this time he probably had anal sex with the boys, but it still doesn't make him openly gay. Gay men don't marry many women.
The article you referenced says Mwanga was probably bisexual and was involved in anal sex. Homosexuality and bisexuality are not exactly the same kind of sexual orientation, but you continue to blur the lines deliberately.

Two reasons I suspect you still continue to insist the king was openly homosexual ,despite the fact he was married to women are,

1. The false assumption that people are born gay. There's no adequate scientific support for that belief anywhere. My apologies if this offends you. Are you gay? So I can confirm from your own personal experience what it means to be really born gay.

2. Your mind has been taken over by gay propaganda and you can no longer think for yourself concerning the issue. Most of the site you reference are owned by people with vested interest. You failed to carry out adequate background check on those sites or corraborate from elsewhere what its contained there. As long as they support your claims, you just copy it and paste on Nairaland.

Let's hear your own thoughts on the matter first, before providing support for them.

You want me to educate myself because according to you 'your ignorance is cancerous'

You made the claim that 'adofuro' in Yoruba was
coined because homosexuals were they first to have anal sex. And without substantiating it yourself, you now want me to educate myself on something that doesn't exist ?I

You made the claim and the onus lies on you to prove it beyond reasonable doubt. Not me. Take your advice and go and educate yourself first .

You see how you have sadly shot yourself in the foot .You cannot provide evidence for your clams, but you derive pleasure on this board from taunting others for failure to prove their beliefs.

It's said that, those who are truly knowledgeable are loath to call others ignorant, while those who are intoxicated with the little they know are quick to label others as ignorant.

I'm done with you. I don't have time to read wayward copy and paste articles.

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 7:47am On Mar 24, 2023*

jaephoenix:
Bro, some gay people marry. They don't enjoy the sex with opposite sex. There are many instances where men/women discover their spouses are gay, after years of marriage. In this man's case, even his wives knew he was gay but stuck with him because of the class and power he wields.
It doesn't take a lot to educate oneself these days, but some people like you decide not to

You keep lying all the time and boast you're educated

Where is the evidence he was openly gay and that his wife knew he was gay.

The focus should be on the king and not any other individual you think is pretending somewhere. You want to deflect.

The other time you lied his father forced him to get married and now this.

Please go away with your half education and lies.

Homosexualsl were the first to have anal sex and because of that the word ,adofuro was coined. That's what you claimed on this thread without any evidence. You should hide your face in Shame

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Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 7:44am On Mar 24, 2023

jaephoenix:
Bro, some gay people marry. They don't enjoy the sex with opposite sex. There are many instances where men/women discover their spouses are gay, after years of marriage. In this man's case, even his wives knew he was gay but stuck with him because of the class and power he wields.
It doesn't take a lot to educate oneself these days, but some people like you decide not to

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 7:05am On Mar 24, 2023

Kayouzka:
There is a monument that was built to honour his male lovers that path from him because they chose to be Christians and was killed for so doing

The same people( white Christian colonialists) who erected the monument for the boys were the same people that accuse him, without any evidence, of sleeping with the boys and displaying the lifestyle openly.

Even if it were true he slept with the boys, it still doesn't make sense to describe him as an openly gay man. He was married to several women. Gay men don't marry women.

Why do you prefer the tag ,openly gay , for him Instead of the more correct description bisexual?

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 7:04pm On Mar 23, 2023

FOLYKAZE:
Homosexuality is alien to Yoruba culture.

Thanks

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 3:35pm On Mar 23, 2023

LordReed:
I am not Yoruba so I will need to do so extensive research for this and the history of homosexuality in Africa.

Ok. I will wait

Christianity Etc › Re: Been A Gay Is Natural by triplechoice(m): 3:20pm On Mar 23, 2023*

Kayouzka:
It is a known fact that mwanga of Uganda was gay stop twisting history, he killed some of his lovers when they became Christians and refused his affection. today they are Christian matyrs in Uganda

It's not a fact he was gay. What you just regurgitate is gay propoganda which has been debunked at different times.

We have several images of the king, but not one to show where he flaunted that lifestyle.

It was a false accusationhe was gay by people who wanted to take over his kingdom .

If you insist he was openly gay, then provide a reliable source detailing how he displayed that lifestyle openly.Make sure you don't bring where he was labelled gay without any evidence.

I'm not interested in reading propaganda.

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