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MaxInDHouse:
God has made His own arrangement so if you want to align yourself with God's purpose all you need is to seek humility and righteousness {Zeph 2:2-3} all those been misled by Satan and his agents aren't any issue for God because as long as they're sincere individuals God has set a time for them to be raised back to life as UNRIGHTEOUS ONES {Act 24:15} the reason why God referred to them as UNRIGHTEOUS is not due to wickedness but they lived by conscience despite the fact that they practiced false religions.
As for those who choose to be wicked deliberately God has judged them already, they will never be allowed to come back to life! Psalms 9:17

When those sincere individuals deceived by Satan are resurrected back to life Satan would have been locked up so it will be easy for them to grasp that they were deceived into practicing false religions {Rev 20:1-3} they will then be given 1,000 years training to become like Christ, afterwards Satan will now have the opportunity to face them the second time after they've gained accurate knowledge of the truth, by that time no more excuses whatever each person decides to be at that time will determine your permanent condition it's either you live forever or die forever. Rev 20:13-15

So calm down God is not wicked so as to forget even the pagans who were kind hearted and sincere. It's only the wicked that God hates because they deliberately chose to be evil!

If God has the power to raise those dead people in the future and also capable of locking up Satan so that they're not deceived again, why did he not exercise this same power by locking Satan up during those period of those "fabrications" to prevent the people from being deceived in the first place?


And talking about raising the dead back to life, where would they be raised from?

From graves that no longer exist?
From the bellies of wild animals that eat them up?

From the ashes of those cremated?

Or they would just appear from no where and start living with humans ,who wouldn't recognize them or know where they came from, and immediately start to speak the current language of the people around them?

And who would also house them?

Your JW kingdom Hall or some of them would immediately start living with you so you can preach to them that they were deceived by demons in the past?




I'm not really sure you're thinking of what you're typing before hitting the submit button.

FireUpNow:
WAEC is 50k and NECO is 50k in private secondary schools. Schools are cashing out big time with less teaching by the teachers and less reading by the students. Corruption has killed this country. I heard a story of how a mathematics teacher could not solve maths waec questions and took it to a tutorial center where it was solved and the teacher came to to the hall to give his special candidates the answers after collecting money from the students. What a shame!

Not every Private school is involved in examination practice. It doesn't matter what they charge for WAEC enrollment.

Some private schools charge 80k for WAEC enrollment, but don't get involved in examination practice or encourage their students to do so.

Any of their teachers caught trying to assist students during both internal and external examination is sacked immediately.

eteebanky1:
Neco fee from the organization is just #18,000

Blame the corruption/extortion mentality that has eaten deep on an average Nigerian

This has nothing to do with corruption.

The students are not going to enroll as independent candidate directly with NECO. It's the school that do would that on their behalf.

And you want them not to charge something in addition to the 18k in the process of doing this for them?

Private schools are expected to make profits from whatever services they render to their students, especially WAEC or NECO enrollment.

If a particular Private school is charging much for NECO enrollment and you can't afford it look elsewhere for the ones you can afford.
It's a simple as that.

MaxInDHouse:
When John said:


So i purposely brought this up please let the atheists cry if they want because God's only begotten Son has come to do what demons and their human agents tried to fabricate for thousands of years but failed:

"All those who have come in place of me are thieves and plunderers; but the sheep have not listened to them" John 10:8

YES! Many have come to confuse people so that by the time the real Christ arrive his case will make no sense but we have the EVIDENCE to prove that they're all working for Satan and demons who knew before hand what Jesus is coming to do!

It's childish talk to say you purposely brought this to make atheist cry..Would their cry mean that the Jesus story was not copied from elsewhere?



You said that many have come before to confuse people, so that by the time the real Christ comes, his story wouldn't make any sense. You have not made any sense here.


Good that you're aware that those stories you claimed were fabricated ,were created thousands of years before that of Jesus.

If those "fabrications" was meant to mislead people then it was unfair for God to have allowed it to happen because millions, if not billions of people who read them never had the opportunity to meet or read the "original Jesus story" before they departed this world to know the truth.

You think God only wanted some set of people to be deceived by those demons ,and why?

Try to Put your self in the position of those people who lived thousands of years before Jesus, and judge for yourself if anything you have argued makes any sense

And also ask yourself if you're not indirectly accusing your God of acting unjustly by allowing demons to deceive billions of people when it should be clear to him that the truth would not be known as at that time ,since Jesus didn't not come immediately to make them know that they were being deceived.


Or you think you're more important and special than the people who lived during those times before Jesus , and so deserved to be deceived?

budaatum:
+1

Happy new year. budaatum

MaxInDHouse:
From Abraham down to David the promise has continued so all the demons (pagan gods) keep speculating how gods were born in one place after another so that by the time Christ is born it won't be anything special after all it has been heard in various pagan traditions!

Well by the time the real promised child was born Satan can't keep it low he quickly turned into a fake Star and led his agents to Herod the great, was it to to get baby Jesus killed before his time? Naaaaaaaaaaaaa! Satan knew that he can't kill Jesus but to make the baby start doing supernatural thing so as to alert all God's enemies but God told Joseph to take the baby away until Herod the great died.

So it was all fabricated to discredit the Christ!

You're focused on one thing alone, the Virgin birth of Jesus, to argue that similar stories that predated the supposedly virgin birth of Jesus were fabricated.

Apart from the virgin birth, nearly everything about the life of Jesus , especially some of the sermons he gave, followed the same pattern as those you claimed were fabricated by demons.

For instance, Jesus sermon on the mount and some of his other sayings are similar to the ones attributed to Krishna in the Bhagavad-gita.

How were the demons able to know almost exact word for word what Jesus was going to say thousands of years before he was going to say it? And how is that even possible?

The demons, according to you, knew beforehand what was coming and used it to fabricate a story to mislead the everyone.

But God, who should be aware of the evil plan of the demons , kept silent and didn't bother to, either alert his numerous prophets to warn the people as at that time, or to do something
about it, in order to be ahead of the demons in whatever they plan to do.

This is strange and does not make any sense. As ordinary humans, once we get to know that our enemy is in the know of what we want to do, we don't just sit down and fold our hands.

We do something so that our enemy don't act as a stumbling block to what we intend to achieve.

But from your explanation you have presented your God as clueless and helpless ,who didn't know what to do, and of course that's the reason you're now making excuse on his behalf.

I think your Op is meant for the people in your congregation who need an explanation to assuage their doubt about the authenticity of the Jesus story so they can continue to believe

It was a mistake on your part to have brought it here.

Borntosmoke:
I swear this brighton no get sense . What is arsenal playing that is difficult to beat them

Are you a Brighton fan?

babasolution:
Disgraceful LovePeddler,south Nigeria women are ratchet whores

No they're not. It's because you're very uncivilized and a bigot that's why you think so.

lightnlife:
If any of you is truly willing to learn the logic around Christianity, feel free to ask your questions with an open mind.

It appears you've been exposed to fundamental lies and half-truths about Christianity all along.

triplechoice, fman, AntiChristian

All I've done here is to explain 25 Dec in its most logical way.

Don't mind me . Just having a laugh.

I don't think it matters now when Jesus was born. What matters is what the whole world has made of it; an holiday season for sending and receiving love.
It's only a sadist that would feel unhappy about that.

Merry Christmas!

So one of the numerous Christians who claim to have personal relationship with Jesus can't find out directly from him when he was actually born to settle this matter?

MaxInDHouse:
Self medication?
Walahi talahi atheists no get shame!

So you decided to commit suicide shey?

But i will still help you!

Directives do come with all medicines so you must BELIEVE (TRUST) in the guidance otherwise you will not get the benefits!

I'm not an atheist so don't label me one.

If I have an headache and decide to buy Panadol to relieve the pain, and it works,it's not trying to commit suicide. Nearly everyone has done that. It's first aid before anything else.

And FYI that's self medication which is not wrong in that instance.


So stop the pretence and wailing because you have also done that unless you want to lie as usual.

jaephoenix:
As a physician, I get what you mean exactly. Lots of religious fruitcakes around here. Yesterday, a woman walked into my consulting room. I greeted her and asked her what was the complaint. Auntie tell me say Devil get hypertension. I asked her to repeat, she told me the same thing. I took a minute to process what she said. Finally figured out she's hypertensive and non complaint. Another one swore she wasn't hypertensive but her diastolic for 3 visits is nothing less than 120mmhg.
I can go on but you have to help the fruitcakes whether they like it or not. Its your duty.
About the "Doctor's can only treat but it's God that heals" bullshit, I tell the cretards, you should have stayed home and gotten your healing instead of bothering me. But here you are leaving the comfort of your home, driving through traffic, paying money and waiting in line to get treatment. Something that you could have gotten by just getting on your knees and complain to your skydaddy and in minutes youre good
So ignore MadMax and his bros here. Or at best reverse-psyche him too. 2 can play that game

I just ignored him now. Thanks

MaxInDHouse:
You only need to calm down so as to get the sense of what i'm saying.

The drug works in your system but you must BELIEVE (TRUST) the physician otherwise you either refuse to take in the drug or misuse it, either way you can't get the benefits!

For the last time, who is the physician for person who self medicate?

Modified. I noticed you just changed your position. You have argued all along that drugs can't work without trust or believe in the physician, now, you have suddenly turned around to accept that drugs works in the system, but one must trust in the physician to avoid misuse.

You're not stable, oga Maximus.

Cheers and have a happy holiday period.

jaephoenix:
For sake of your sanity, leave MadMax alone. What he's doing is a form of gaslighting. Nigga is catching cruise, he's not doing any religious interpretation. I have figured him out and I'm avoided him. But if you receive some certain joy in banging your head against a rock, please continue with him

My replies are not meant for him alone. They're so many others here who think and believe like him.

Offline I have them around me. When you try to explain to them what causes medicine to work, they would reject it with "forget it, without God medicine can't work"

I'm sure you're familiar with the statement, "Doctor's can only treat but it's God that heals"
If you visit any hospital owned by a church, that's the notice that welcomes people.

MaxInDHouse:
The same way blind belief will not make sound counsel work for you, you must PRACTICALLY apply divine counsel before you can get it's benefits.
That's where BELIEVE (TRUST) in God comes in because He knows better than you do just as the physician knows better than you regarding the drug prescribed.

Thank you!

You have gone on another track.
With medications ,once it gets into your system, your body reacts to effect a cure without you doing anything of your own,. Your body chemistry reacts. That's all.

People who are unconscious are sometimes given injections which works, without them aware of what they have received during that period.

Why is it difficult for you understand something as simple as this.

You're trying to use your religious beliefs to interpret medical science, and that's where the problem lies for you.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ there's nothing the earth lack if nobody travel to the moon.
So back to the OP drugs can't work without the user's belief in the physician's prescriptions!

It's obvious you don't even understand anything in the op.

It's not about relying on those who practice medicine, Doctors, but on the effectiveness of their practice itself.

You're conflating the two as one in order to confuse people.

Your belief or trust in any doctor ,who is attending to you, is not what's going to make the drugs they prescribe work for you. Even a child in primary school should know this, but you, with your age and experience says no?

If drugs can't work, as you have declared, without the user's belief in the physician, what then makes it to work for those who do self medication without any doctor's prescription?

Babies don't need to trust in physicians before vaccines can work for them, and that's if they even understand what is being given to them at that moment of their lifes

Dtruthspeaker:
My enemy, you changed post after I gave you your words which is proof you have nothing to say. Your attempt to reargue is just a waste of your time.

You're your own enemy because you lie to yourself all the time.

None of my words is proof of what you're imagining. It's your own jaundiced interpretation which no one else has accepted.

I think wasted my time dragging that with you. I should have known that you can't comprehend simple statements made by anyone.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ there's nothing the earth lack if nobody travel to the moon.
So back to the OP drugs can't work without the user's belief in the physician's prescriptions!

Ok. Almighty Maximus that created the earth to know what it would lack or not lack if man didn't go to the Moon.

MaxInDHouse:
When there's no sense in something there's nothing you can say to convince right thinking persons. Just know that whatever makes you take drugs you're already a BELIEVER in the manufacturers of the drug you swallowed!

How does this response of yours relates to the benefits of going to the Moon that you were so eager to know, and which I have already explained?

It's not enough to just blab that there's no sense in something without showing how.

So your latest response is wayward and without any sense.

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ moon landing hasn't brought anything different with or without traveling there we are OK on this planet.
So tell me what the earth will lack if nobody travel to the moon!

You're just turning round in circles. The question you just asked is not different from the one you have asked before.

What the earth would lack if man didn't not go to the Moon are the benefits we are all currently enjoying from it.

I have already mentioned one, communication satellites and any other kind of satellites.

Your responses keep confirming what feared at the beginning . I know you won't make sense of the benefits of going to the Moon.

MaxInDHouse:
Were people COMMUNICATING on telephones before moon landing?
YES!
So it's not moon landing that brought telephones.

Oh my God!
Where did I say Moon landings brought phones?

I am talking of communication satellites which is used for internet connectivity and others, and not just phones.

I wonder why you're blind to the word,satellite, in that expression, communication satellite. You have been mentioning communication in isolation as if it's the same.

You have already shown us when the first analogue phone was invented and used, but the first communication satellite was launched in 1962 ,years after that

Please try to understand what I am talking about.

Dtruthspeaker:
Look at it, even here you spoke rubbish and calling on me to "focus on you" and prove it, and I have shown you your own words and now you have again shifting post to insult me because you can not reasonably and truthfully answer me as always happens, so why would hate me?

You have nothing valid and reasonable to say you just want to insult me in your pain.

My friend, you don't not have any evidence of anything you said I implied.

I expect you to read the preceding clause of that statement to understand the correct thing I said

Here below was what I typed initially where 'the word, 'how' was skipped

"I know that medical science is not magic, so could I have boasted it can't fail. "

From the above, If I already admitted in the preceding statement that medical science is not magic, how does it make sense for me to go ahead to boast it can't fail?

Magic is not expected to fail, but I said medical science is not magic, meaning it's not infallible.



I have edited the post long before you posted your reply to read the correct thing.

"I know that medical science is not magic, so how could I have boasted it can't fail. "

There's no way it make sense for me to negate myself in the same statement.


This sort of thing has happened between me and Maximum recently . And unlike you , inspite of the heated argument we were having, he was still charitable enough to let me know that I made a typing mistake, but said he still understood correctly what I wanted to type.

But you're dishonest person who is looking for any means to make me say what I never meant.

You failed woefully. Try next time.

Dtruthspeaker:
The Truth is you hate me because you guys can not reasonably and validly argue against me, hence your frustration and anger and insult.

You're never reasonable or logical in most of the things you say.

So why should anyone hate you for that. You deserve pity and not hatred

Dtruthspeaker:
Is this not your statement you used to attack mine?



Even here do you prove and show your trust and boast in medicine.

To trust in something is not a guarantee you must benefit from it.

You don't think before you type and post

MaxInDHouse:
Ọmọ no benefits if you can't list it.
Communication is out because telephone has been in use for more than 90 years before the moon landing.
So whether people travel to the moon or not communication will work here on this planet.
Say another thing joh!

You don't know what is communication satellite and what it's used for. That's the problem.

And you don't want to know.

Dtruthspeaker:
The argument is clear na. You all impliedly boast that drugs work all the time, so we are here to remind you that it does not..

Please focus on me alone, and show me the statement or statements I made that confirms what you're accusing me of .

You just can't say I implied something without any proof.

I know that medical science is not magic, so how could I have boasted it can't fail.

You should cover your face in shame for this dishonest attempt of yours in trying to accuse me of something I never implied at anytime.

You said what you said and you saw my counter which made you change post to "awareness".

What is with the vague, "you said what you said"

You're hiding now.
SHM.
I always try to avoid you because I know that you're never coherent and sincere in most of the things you say.

You just blab nonsense all the time.

MaxInDHouse:
Communication deceit!
Telephone discovered ~ 1876
First moon landing ~ 1969

So tell me how come the benefits got here before moon landing!

Lol
I said communication satellites, oga Maximus.

You have just confirmed why I said I don't want to stress myself listing the benefits.

I already know you would struggle to understand them.
I think one of your awake magazines has an article on Moon landing. Search for it . I'm sure more detailed information concerning the benefits would be there to help you.

MaxInDHouse:
So in a nutshell nothing as you can't list any!

It's better you do that yourself . I don't want stress myself explaining how some of these benefits were derived from going to the Moon.

If I tell you, for instance, that one of the benefits is communication satellites, which makes it possible for the conversation we are having right now, I fear you may struggle to understand how it came from going to the Moon.

People like you think that going to the Moon was for sightseeing, and that's exactly why you can't see any benefits.

Communication satellites is one of the benefits of going to the Moon. I just listed one. Go and search for the others or ask your child at home .
Don't be scared of knowing the truth yourself. You have a phone that's internet enabled. It won't take you time.

Dtruthspeaker:
It is because you boast that drugs work all the time, hence showing that the drug did not work is also in the issue.

Nobody here has boasted that drugs work all the time

You said "trust" I proved "trust" and not awareness, so change of post!

Where and when did you "proved trust"
Can trust exist without self awareness?

Oga ,go rest. You're clutching at straws

Dtruthspeaker:
And we see that many do not come back

Whether they come back or not is not the issue here,but if they can trust while in that condition for them to benefit from the medical attention they're receiving.

And could you please explain what made those who came back to come back ,since you and your friends believe that without trust it wouldn't be possible.

Babies already trust.

So babies have the awareness to know what treatment they're receiving?

If for instance it's vaccination , new born babies can trust in it because they're aware of what is being done by the person vaccinating them?

How many of such babies have you interviewed to determine if they have the awareness to trust in medical science?

You seem to derive some kind of pleasure from the nonsense you type and post
on Nairaland. You don't care ,since nobody can see you physically.

Do you talk like this as a lawyer that you claim to be offline?

MaxInDHouse:
Oya tell me the BENEFITS derived from going to the Moon!

So many benefits. You can Google it if your child attending school can't list them for you.

They should have been taught that in school already.

jaephoenix:
Youre going far. What about psychotic patients that are physically restrained and on intravenous injections prescribed by the psychiatrist? Do they need to trust or abide by the doctors' regimen?
MadMax is at his finest this morning

He thinks he can use his knowledge of the Bible to understand medical science.