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Janosky:
OLAADEGBU is a cultist himself because all the bullet points are very obvious in the personality cult of men you have identified with... Stop making a mockery of yourself.

nlPoster:
Do people not get sacked in Nigeria all the time? It's not always about emotional reasons, the business owner does what is expedient for them.

It's distressful no doubt, nobody likes that but sometimes you just have to pray and work towards better things.

Also, if you can sack someone because you dislike them, why cant you sack someone if they're distracting you due to excessive liking and it could affect the business?

tpiar:
Check the part I just added.

tpiar:
Business owners have the right to hire and dismiss I think.

Even the people debating this would do the same assuming they could sack someone they don't like. Excessive like or dislike can be a reason for letting people go, either way. A softer landing would be transferring a person to another department perhaps.

We don't always have to debate the morality or ethics of a thing, sometimes what is expedient is considered.

eyinjuege:
Interesting...
I never heard of the word evangelical atheists before, but it does explain a lot of things on this forum. Many atheists on here fall into that category, because they are very aggressive and when you compare them to atheists abroad who have been areligious for eons, you begin to wonder at their own atheism. Infact, I believe they are more fanatical than the religious fanatics. They bring atheism into every topic inappropriately, with insults targeted at religious people.

You and Lord.Reed should not attack each other sha, and just show basic respect to one another.

jcross19:
it seems you did not read the op? when a man begin to watch too much sci fi movie. he reasons like a fool.

LordReed:
I asked you to point out where I asked anybody to leave their religion. Either you put up or shut up, it's quite simple.

LordReed:
I don't know what moderate atheist means. Atheism doesn't ask people to leave their religion.

Teetee345:
Hi nl,
Am a young lady of 20 yrs and until now, I never knew spiritual attack existed..I just completed my ND program. I live with my dad and stepmum. my mum is late and she only had two girls for my dad..am the second and last born.

I come from a Muslim background but my dad never forced me to go to mosque besides I never liked being a Muslim.
When I got into polytechnic, I started going to church but not often and I didn't know attending church is different from accepting Christ and doing the will of God.

Two months ago I was asked to come for interview for my IT ...I was supposed to go for the interview the next day and then sickness started. But before the sickness, i remembered i had a dream that someone gave me a black substance to swallow that i had to die cuz i have something to do, i took it and swallowed it and i was holding my neck and struggling for breath , then i woke up from the dream...i prayed about it and continued with life .

a week later ,I was complaining of my body shaking and dizziness.. It was like I wanted to faint, I was rushed to hospital and I was told it was malaria..I got better for like two days, and then it started again ..I was taken to another hospital but didn't get myself still...then I was referred to general hospital... Still they didn't find anything wrong with me,,am always in pain and agony every night and I couldn't sleep...it was like someone was holding my neck and about to break it into two and my heart is always Beating fast like it was about to come out of my chest...I couldn't even explain to the doctors how I felt cuz its unexplainable....

When the doctors didn't know what else to do..
They gave me different sleeping pills and injections..still I couldn't sleep..
Then I was taken to a cherubim church but it only got worse... I was always crying and shouting every night and couldn't sleep for two weeks...
When I wasn't getting better.. I had to call my mum younger brother tho he was a Muslim... Then he took me to one Alfa,he recited Quran on me and that day I felt better and slept well but then it started again the next day..I couldn't breath well and its like something was walking in my whole body...

Then my dad picked me from there to my mum elder sister's place... She is a Christian and attends deeper life church.. She called her pastors and they did deliverance for me though they were in haste cuz they were going for retreat or something and I accepted Christ right there.. Infact i was asked to take of my earring and no more attachments or anything but to live like a deeper life christian and i looked like a shadow of myself after taking them off...

After that the sickness was still happening but its like its fading away gradually... Have been trying my best since then to stay away from sin and serve God.. And have been living with my aunt since then...am now okay but not completely... I could still feel that thing walking in my body but just suppressed... The pastors told me the sickness would go completely if I fast and pray at least three times a week and have faith but I haven't been able to do that since one month ago...reason is I can't fast at my aunt place cuz am always working...I can't even pray or sit for 20 mins without being sent on errand... Am always looking dirty and I looked like a maid...sometimes I get insulted if I make a mistake and am very scared of her...I called my dad and my elder sister to tell them everything and he said he is coming to pick me but I told him no cuz the pastors told my aunt I have to be spiritually strong before I Leave there so I won't be attacked again but I haven't been fasting and praying as am supposed to.

..but my aunt told me a lot of things I never knew before...she said my mother's family is not what I think and have noticed it too...almost all of them are dead including my mum and they all didn't go to school...she told me it is a generation curse that it was Christ that saved her...she said they wanted to kill me since I wanted to go further to school...she said I still have a lot of battle to fight against that family... But how will I do that when am only there to live like a maid...her daughter is always there doing nothing and I get shouted at after doing everything.... Sometimes she is nice to me and most times she is not...now I want to leave her place and go to my sister place to start the fasting and praying and attend church programs at mfm but am scared since the pastors told her I shouldn't go yet.I really appreciate her but I can't continue like this....am still not fully okay and I want to get closer to God but I can't do so where I am .I could sleep at night but not how I used to...I can't even wake up to pray in the morning most times since I have to start working immediately I wake up...am fed up and I don't know what to do....please kindly advice...

LordReed:
And where on this board have you come across me asking people to abandon their faith?

LordReed:
You seem hellbent on twisting my words or attributing to them a meaning they do not contain. How many times do I have to repeat that I have not asked anyone to stop using faith? This is what I was talking about, no matter how many times I explain it, you have made your own interpretation of my words and will stick with it.

LordReed:
I am not. I am illustrating for you what the implications of my statement is. There is no implication asking anybody to stop using faith. There is no implication that faith cannot be used as a motivator.

LordReed:
There's no implication in that statement that coca-cola is not to be drank. There is no implication in the statement asking anybody to stop drinking coca-cola.

LordReed:
The question again: Coca-Cola is unnecessary to quench thirst. What does that imply?

LordReed:
Keep twisting my words and being wilfully obtuse, you show that way that I have no reason to expect that any amount of explanation will be productive.

LordReed:
If you can't honestly answer a simple question, I don't think further conversation with you will be productive since you want to be wilfully obtuse.

LordReed:
When you are willing to think about and answer the question honestly we can talk.

LordReed:
Coca-Cola is unnecessary to quench thirst. What does that imply?

LordReed:
And where did I say they should abandon faith? Is it that you don't understand the meaning of the words I used or what exactly is your problem?

LordReed:
Then what is it about what I wrote are you having a problem with?

LordReed:
Motivation and faith are not synonymous so that you need motivation does not mean you need faith.

Those that rely on faith are like those that rely on placebos. The thing that works is not the placebo you are ingesting but something else entirely.

LordReed:
I didn't said you said faith was indispensable nor did I agree with you, I was clarifying my statement in the light of what you said about motivation. That faith can play a role in motivation does not make it indispensable and the fact that it can be substituted for something else buttresses the fact that it unnecessary to achieve anything.

LordReed:
I didn't say I want anybody to switch, I said faith is unnecessary. If faith is working for you as a motivation it doesn't make faith indispensable.

LordReed:
Your motivation can from anything, that does not make the thing indispensable, you can switch the basis of your motivation.

LordReed:
Faith in a god is unnecessary for anything worthwhile in this life.

budaatum:
Now, this is where I actually support bacteriologist, and appreciate what he is doing here!

Believing things one has no evidence for is detrimental to society and an individual's existence, and such beliefs must constantly be challenged, even by the individual who has the faith, as even the Christian faith teaches!

If I build a bridge without challenging the assumptions on which I'm building it, there's absolutely no guarantee that it would get you to the other side, which is why I ought to be challenged so I don't waste money and kill people.

The issue I do have with the op is that he judges the entire religion by the observation of an errant - I'd love to say, few, but the truth is - majority. His error however is that he does not separate the religion from those who practise the religion wrongly!

Below are two instructions from the manual advising against blind faith.


Not everyone understands faith as you do .Among believers who claim to be guided by the holy spirit there is a lot of disagreement as to what faith actually means.

Some tell you just have faith and everything will work out fine.But is that enough ? Except one is attempting a leap of faith, faith without "evidence "is dead.It cannot work or it becomes a great struggle to acquire it

I still read the Bible but with a better understanding

Ebubeagu1:
To become a priest, you have to spend nothing less than 12 years is seminary school. They don't only study theology but philosophy and others.