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1desiderata1:
I have read and digested this thread multiple times. The OP really did a wonderful job. Thanks to the other contributors too. I have been practicing the techniques and would give my feedback soon.

I have seen its more like persistent concentration of thoughts, feelings, imaging, prayer and meditation. The human mind is powerful when focused on a particular thought. It's the basis of prayer and meditation and it's more powerful when there's no food or impurities in the body(fasting). Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just here to learn and get better understanding.

I have some questions for the Op and triplechoice though. Information is all over the internet but very few people have the patience and diligence to consistently practice these techniques.


1. Do people use these techniques to do illegal activities like fraud ? For instance, when a fraudster use it to get unfair advantage in illegal activity.

2 Would it work in those situations? If yes please give personal experience from yourself or someone close.

3 Does the higher self recognize if these exercises are being used to do illegal activities?


I'd like to know some limitations of these exercise if it was used for getting uncommon favor, connections and contacts that could change a man's status?


As they say, Nothing comes free. What does the higher self takes to grant all the wishes?
Thanks and please forgive my typo

CC Triplechoice Afromentalist damentalist

Hello 1desiderata1,

Here is my response in the order you have asked them.

Do people use this techniques to do illegal activity. Yes. But you should learn how to accept responsibility for your actions. If you're engaged in a fruadulent activity and you put someone in your inner vision in order to make them part with their money and it happens, then you should be ready to accept responsibility for you actions. You don't blame anyone if the person you're trying to defraud snapped out of it and involve the police to get you arrested . You're on your own whatever you choose to do with any knowledge acquired. The op has no business in it . You're simply exercising your free will and you should not be afraid to do so Every action you take is an opportunity to learn. But you can also learn from other people's experience. I have never at anytime try to defraud anyone with techniques like the one on this page. This does not make me a good person neither does it mean that does who do are evil people. It's their choice.

As for you second question,,I already answered that it can be used but I have not tried to But do I know anyone? Well, the only situation I remember was a case where an acquaintance was accused of hypnotising a girl into a relationshipvwith him.The father of the young lady actually approached me to convinced my friend to leave her daughter alone..That he was told by some persons whom he met for help that the daughter has been hypnotised and there was nothing that can be done accept to find a way to appeal to the young man to leave the daughter alone..This happened more than ten years ago and they're still together.. Nothing has changed.. I am sure the parents of the girl must have let go to allow things be . Is it illegal? How do I know or judge?

Does the higher self knows what you do? Yes.The higher self is YOU Your real self different from what you currently think you're..The self you think you're is a product of the environment you were brought up in.Its an illusion it's not real.You'er identifying as a Nigerian because you were born and brought up here.So you speak and act like a Nigerian.But if at birth, you were immediately taken to live in France and grow up there ,you will certainly speak French and act like a French citizen.The same thing will happen wherever else you're taken to at birth .So you can now understand that what you think you're is not the real you but a product of the environment you were brought up in and if there are any behavior you have acquired which you see as impediment to your growth or success in live,you can change it .The only way you can successfully do that is by connecting with your higher self, which is the true you, to make changes.This to me is the real essence of this whole thread .And as the op has pointed out,there are other methods but those come with a price.

Then your final question,there are no price to be paid except the time and effort you but into the practice to make it work for you you're actually trying to establish a connection with the real you,your pwer base, to enliven or empower whatever you seek to achieve in live.This is what the Christian Bible refers to as the kingdom of God within you and when connect with it you become truly born again.. You're one with it.I am one with it.Everone is one with.We are all one with it. which is to say that we are all one with God that is inside of everyone and this God is You.Its difficult to accept but it's the truth.

Please take my reply as someone who has spoken from his own personal experiences and things I learnt I am not not an authority.I an still learning.

Cc Afromentalist

Afromentalist:
My friend you have said it all. Most people don't have the patience and consistency to apply a cheat code. It is what it is.


My opinions with respect to your questions:

1- Yes people do use these techniques for various goals, some may be noble others may not. Some use for self development, others for fraud. Some to build, others to destroy. A real mentalist however must learn to do both. Evil and good must be concentrated and united within you before you can achieve mastery. If you are only either right path minded, or left path minded, you will not achieve mastery and self realisation. For very obvious reasons.

2- Yes it would work. Your question is like someone asking if a knife is only effective in cutting pieces of meat, and not cutting someone's throat. Truth is, a knife is only a knife and can be used for all sort of purposes. Same with mental and all spiritual techniques.

I am sure you do not think I am foolish enough to share a personal experience of fraud, ain't ? I do not practice any form of illegal scam which you may call fraud. But If properly applied, it can work. Since you want a genuine experience, let me just say this:

When negotiating a contract, I can project a mental form of myself to go talk and convince the subtle body of the person I am negotiating with. That person will be staying at home and be thinking, I really need to give in that person demands. By the time we negotiate, I can easily have the upper hand in the deal. That's an example of how europeans master Bleep African leaders all the time. A leader must always be a mentalist.

3- The higher self does not know anything about legal or illegal. All these are human constructs that have no relevance in nature. For instance if a wolf see you in the forest and wants to eat you, he will not mind wether you came in that forest to kill animals or to give them food. He will just eat you and move on. So your legality and illegality have no relevance beyond the human society.

However, it is important to mention that ultimately whether good or bad will eventually lead to the greater good of the whole system. That is, in the end the sum total of all elements of the universe will always be greater than the addition of each part. So in a sense we can say, the greater good will always prevail.

Maybe I should illustrate it in another post if need be.

Thanks for your questions.

Hello Afromentalist,

Glad to read from you once again I am sure everything is ok .

There are some questions that will come from me later concerning your response to the questions you were asked.

onlyforchrist:
Thank you for this piece bro.

In all honesty, am observing some changes within me that I know it's a result of the exercises.

A friend shared an idea with me recently and what my rational mind was pointing to is FEAR. Come to think of it, this idea can be the pathway to make me wealthy.
These exercises connects, reprogram and open your senses to be more sharp. I will keep doing the exercise until everything becomes clearer.

I will like to add let's drop results because this will encourage other seekers too. thank you Afromentalist. I will like to keep reading from you and see us all at the top soon.
cc Goddys

Yes . It's good to share experiences so as to inspire and motivate others.

I will be doing that from time to time. Cheers

1desiderata1:
I have read and digested this thread multiple times. The OP really did a wonderful job. Thanks to the other contributors too. I have been practicing the techniques and would give my feedback soon.

I have seen its more like persistent concentration of thoughts, feelings, imaging, prayer and meditation. The human mind is powerful when focused on a particular thought. It's the basis of prayer and meditation and it's more powerful when there's no food or impurities in the body(fasting). Correct me if I'm wrong. I'm just here to learn and get better understanding.

I have some questions for the Op and triplechoice though. Information is all over the internet but very few people have the patience and diligence to consistently practice these techniques.


1. Do people use these techniques to do illegal activities like fraud ? For instance, when a fraudster use it to get unfair advantage in illegal activity.

2 Would it work in those situations? If yes please give personal experience from yourself or someone close.

3 Does the higher self recognize if these exercises are being used to do illegal activities?


I'd like to know some limitations of these exercise if it was used for getting uncommon favor, connections and contacts that could change a man's status?


As they say, Nothing comes free. What does the higher self takes to grant all the wishes?
Thanks and please forgive my typo

CC Triplechoice Afromentalist damentalist

Just saw the above now.I will give my reply later

Goddys:
Every person with insights has a lot of ideas, visions and purpose. The question is the resource to actualize it. Are you saying someone that dreams of starting a supermarket should start by hawking pure water on the traffic since it's an idea that could bring such dream to fruition?

If that is the case, the exercise adds no substantial purpose in my opinion

@Goddy please permit me to respond to the above even though it wasn't directed to me

We have been taught to believe that to actualize any project we must at the beginning have the necessary resources before we can proceed. This how most people think.The unfortunate thing with this sort of thinking is that you unknowingly place a barrier between you and the goal you're trying to reach.

The higher self which we are trying to connect with by the series of exercises presented on this thread has a different model of operation.It sees the beginning from the end. Meaning that it already knows how a project will end even before you start it.. It is not hampered by anything.It does not see impossibilities.When you succeed in connecting with it and are able to tell it what you want to achieve ,it will provide the means by which you can achieve your goal.Tell it what exactly you want without specifying how you're going to achieve it and try to follow what it leads you to

The higher self is divine intelligence it knows more than our little self. it knows exactly what needs to be done to get you what you want.It will direct and connect you with how to obtain the object of your desire.I have used similar techniques in the past to get what I want and the results sometimes have been outstanding.Even now as I started to using what the op has shared I have already gotten a result which has surprised me. An issue which I did not consider a serious problem, although I have been trying to deal with it just disappeared overnight.I will talk more about this at the appropriate time

Now, how does the higher self get you what you want even when you don't have the means to do so? if you want to get married and you don't have the money, don't allow this to stop you.Just create what you want using the technique shared and allow your higher self to direct you on how to achieve this...Tell it using the technique shared that you want to get married.I know of a friend who wanted to get married but had no job and no money For most people,especially those who take pride in thinking rationally,it would be stupid to consider marriage in such circumstances but this friend of mine was not deterred.He and the girlfriend chose a date for the wedding and strongly believe that it would come to pass and indeed it came to pass. They are married now with two houses and two cars.This is one example of what the higher self can do ..When I was in the university, there was a time I needed to pay my fees but there was no money. Having tried everything to get money, I decided to use some of the techniques which I was exposed to at that time And it worked.The money came from an unexpected source.What was dramatic about it was that it was exactly the money I needed.13000 naira.I have never forgotten that incident.Infact it is one of the things I still hold on to as evidence that this things work. Was it coincidence!? not sure because I continue to have such similar "coincidence" each time I decided to try some of this techniques. They work my experiences continue to confirm this for me.
From experience, I have learnt that you don't allow your analytical mind get in the way so that you start to consider how external circumstances can hinder you from achieving your goal.I am not saying you should abandon rational thinking but you should find a way to work around it so that you can follow the nudges of your higher self.I have not mastered this but I hope to do so with consident practice

Once you can connect with your higher self you are become empowered to easily achieve your goals.If you don't have the means to achieve to get what you want, don't bother it will find ways to connect you with the object of your desire.

So if you're guided to sell pure water to achieve your goal then do it.Who knows if someone wouldl not approach you immediately you start, to supply large quantities of water to workers in a massive construction site and in a short time you have gotten what you wantl.Dont forget ,your higher self can see the beginning from the end.A very wealthy individual once told me that poor people think that to get rich you need money but this is not true.That what you need first is the right idea and the money to actualize it will certainly come. There's coeonavirus ravaging the world right get the cure and you become a billionaire. It's the same with any other thing you can come up with. Ideas or inventions gives you money and not the other way round

cc .Afromentalist

ikorodureporta:
my most painful experience in football

Nor be only u my broda. That team was meant to qualify for the final and even win it.
Those set of players were just to good. The most entertaining team in that competition and later ranked the third best footballing team in the world

Afromentalist:
Yes. This reminds me that I should indicate that there are possible substitute to the beads. The Bracelet here has no special effec; it is only use for convenience and discretion. You can carry it everywhere you go and with time, by mere touching your bracelet, your mind will automatically shut down and give room to your other dimensions. That will be the intermediary effect of using it.

Instead of the bracelet, one can use one's own heart beat. If you can be calm enough to feel your pulse, you can transpose your meditative rythm to the cardiac rythm. That means with each pulse /heartbeat, you count one destiny word (and associate image/feeling) and so on.

It is also possible to use one's breath, in a very similar manner. Breathing in with a destiny word, and breathing out with another destiny word. With each breathing exercise, always remember to breath with your belly. I also forgot to mention that in my previous post(s).

Ok . Thanks

Afromentalist:
Hello Everyone,

I hope my message find you safe and sound. Let the troubles of this leap year avoid all of us. I have been taken by a case in my practice, and I could not find the rest of mind to pen the exercice down. Now that I have some rest, let me do it now and not further procrastinate.

- Similar to the exercice we did before, identify 2 or 3 things you would want to be/achieve in life and create a visual representation for each of them.

- Find a single word that best describe each of these aspirations of yours. The Word should be at best a one syllable word for a rythmic effect. If the word has 2 syllable it is okay too, but try not to go beyond 2 syllable. For instance, if the goal is to be an entrepreuneur, rather say Boss. If it is to be wealthy, rather say rich. etc.

- Twice a day dedicate 20 minutes of meditation time, divided as follows:

- 5 Minutes of breathing exercice with the following pattern: You Inhale for 4 seconds, hold your breath for 2 seconds, and exhale for 4 seconds. Do this until you reach a state of great calm.

- 15 minutes of counting your destiny words. Destiny here does not mean fate, but rather the end you have fixed for yourself. As you have maybe 2 words: You (inwardly or loud, it does not matter) say the first word, then the second. then the first, then the second. over and over for 15 minutes.

- As you pronounce one word, visualize instantly the particular representation you have created for it. That representation must be about you mainly!

- Add intense and realistic feelings to the pictures, as if you were living the reality you are seeing.

-Each time you say one word, also push one pearl of your bracelet. When you pronounce the next, you push the next.

Do this twice a day preferably as you wake up and before you sleep.

To be continued.

I am already used to a visual template for focus before now. This is the making of a mental mark or circle after a word is pronouced to a total count of twenty five units in a five by five template.

Can I use this as a substitute for the beads since due to the current situation I was unable to get what I wanted?

stupidity:
the mind bro. The MIND. You quoted my answer up there.

How does it mess up the mind? Or why do you say it will mess up the mind?. It's what you have failed to answer

stupidity:
okay. Here’s one thing you guys should know. Read my post again. I clearly stated I’m educated but to a degree. I might not give good write up of what I’m trying to say but it doesn’t mean I don’t know what I’m saying.





The way you read and write is different from others.


Probably the audience here already have faith in something else and they see this write up and want to try something new, that’s why I said it’s dangerous. It Messes up your mind not knowing where you really belong.

You have not shown that you know what you're saying.
You're warning that trying something new is dangerous and can mess up someone's mind without providing any valid reason Those who know what they are saying don't talk this way.
Let me know the reason behind your warning.I am willing to learn .If you're unable to do this then It would mean that you're just expressing your own subjective fears.

@ stupidity

You're warning people when you're not even sure of what you know.

Some of the persons who are practicing what the op gave out already have the means or ability to determine what is real from what is fake.And also don't forget that this is the internet.A lot of people are reading .If there is anything dangerous, those who know will talk and with reason..
It's clear you're confused and don't know enough to talk since you have not provided any reasons for your warning s

My friend this is not church where gullible people are threatened with hell fire

Nigeria is being controlled by cultists and will continue to, unless something akin to a miracle happens to change things.

These people are everywhere and the only thing they're interested in, is how they can manipulate the system to benefit themselves and their loyalist .They don't care for the masses.
The way things are playing out in this country can be likened to a game of football whose result is already rigged. Only bettors(cult members) with insider info can cash out while the ignorant ones(the masses) unaware that illusion has been thrown at them will continue to bet and lose their money, untill they become impoverished
Honestly, things are not normal.Nigeria is a country where working hard or smart to succeed hardly works It's war Only the strong and those who know how to "fight"can succeed.
Crying ,God help me! God help me! Will not help anyone.
In this same Nigeria, we had a finance minister who had succeded in helping other countries to turn around their economies and stabilised things for them .But she could not succeed here.Why? because these set of evil people frustrated her.Now, she is part of South Africa economy coucil.
Sorry,God cannot help us.We need to find ways to help ourselves.The religious leaders have also joined them.
Someone told me it's our karma.Maybe he is correct.I can't tell

The first group, I was an aspirant . On leaving I disposed their materials which included the master's photograph in a refuse dump.That was more than 20years ago.
The second was 2years ago. Did not waste much time with that.A friend told me about them.I went to check things for myself.I was given some intro materials to read and understand more.Before leaving that day I was encouraged to apply for initiation.
At home, I went through the materials and I was impressed.Then 2 weeks later I attended their satsang where I was welcomed and a lady gave me the master's photo.
When I got home that day,after some contemplation I placed the photo under my pillow and had brief nap during which time I experienced the egregore.Did not like what I saw.I knew it was a warning from my higherself .It's not the first time I have had such warnings .
So I called the secretary the next day and told her that I am no longer interested in the initiation. She told me not to bother about it if that's what I want.I also did the same thing like the first by dumping the materials and the photo in the refuse dump.
Anything wrong with those actions?

Righteousness89:
Ok sir! I know you know! Keep it up Sir

Nearly everyone knows what is being done but people like you don't want to know because you want to spread fear and panic.

There are preventive measures in place already (e.g washing hands,social distancing etc)people are being quarantined, vaccines are being developed and drugs are also being tested. Why are you blind to all of these?
Coronavirus will be defeated inspite of what you believe

Righteousness89:
When I heard the PM of U.K. Saying if you have Symptoms Isolate yourself in your Home

If you Parents have the Symptoms Isolate yourself in your Home

I knew that There is Worldwide Confusion..

Even the Doctors Worldwide are now saying Stay at Home!

Anyone Banking on anything Other than GOD ALMIGHTY is Joking.. Those who Trust in GOD Genuinely and Absolutely will sail true Stresslessly... The KING of Kings is Making us Understand that HE is the one that Runs this Earth. We need to Bow to HIM and Walk by HIS Rules...

Personal Hygiene, Washing your Hands and all that are Common Sense. It's what you do naturally.

The World is Confused!
Government are Confused!!
Medical personnel are Confused!!

Everyone is Just trying to Encourage themselves! In the Real sense , No one knows what to do!

You're the confused one who does not know or understand what the world is doing to contain the virus

The problem we have in this part of the world is that when we start to experience any kind symtom we are unwilling to visit the nearest hospital or health center to find out what is actually wrong with us, except when the situation becomes worst or very critical.I would not lie I am also guilty of this sometimes.

I am sure not many persons right now, during this period of coronavirus pandemic would be willing to come out to let those in charge know what is actually wrong them. This behavior would only make things worst.


Just imagine if the op had actually contacted the virus before she went for test.By now some of the persons that she had contact with would probably have contacted it too .Please let's try to do the right thing at this time.

I just hope it doesn't spread further before the cure or vaccine is developed

LordReed:
Walking away specialist! Maximus69 the storyteller! I hail your ability to manufacture stories. LMFAO!

walk away
— phrasal verb with walk verb
UK /wɔːk/ US /wɑːk/
(DIFFICULT SITUATION)


disapproving
to stop being involved in a situation because it is difficult to deal with or does not give you any advantages:

Let Maximu69 continue to expose himself. He is lucky the forum is an anonymous one

TATIME:
Because she is also one of the ACCUSED!
So you can't separate her from Jehovah's Witnesses when pointing accusing fingers at her organization, go and tell her you're discussing with her brothers on Nairaland, and explain everything that's been going on, our EVIL deeds and also all the good and EVIL things you said about her religious group. Most importantly, don't forget to introduce her to those BETTER groups because she's YOUR blood sister NOT just your neighbor. And i'm sure you'll like her to become BETTER by associating with the BETTER groups!

Eke, Alabosi!

Shame
Leave my sister out of it and besides she is an adult. I cannot forced her to abandon her choice.If she decides to leave your group tomorrow,it does not change anything between us.
I don't condemn,judge and completely avoid people because of what they choose to do with their lives except they want to drag me into it when I am not interested.
So stop this childish game of trying to drag my sister into our discussion and let's focus on what you have to offer.

What is Jesus greatest commandment?
Do you know it?

Maximus69:
Mention that religious group but don't just go ahead using MAN-MADE ideas, quote Jesus and explain how practical what your so called better religious groups are doing, remember that whatever Jesus say he lay the foundation so that his followers could follow as in imitate him!
So don't confuse yourself saying what Jesus did not do just because you feel that is what he is suggesting!

So you think all religious groups must use the Bible? This is ignorance.

And please stop dribbling . Let's focus on the main issue.

According to Jesus, who is your neighbor and how did he instruct you to treat them?
Don't reply with your usual, my sister this, my sister that or any unrelated rant because it would only mean that you have been deliberately side stepping questions you have no answer to.

Maximus69:
Gbam!

He only said JW members he knew hardly get involved in criminal activities, but you guys love only your members!

Except for her sister (who is also a member of the same organization) to love and be love by everyone around her!

Ó dámilójú pé eléyìí kàn ñla enu ni, kìí ronú rárá kótó sòrò!

I just saw this now.

Why are you trying so hard to connect two unrelated things?why dragging my sister into everything?is it to guilt trip me or what?
I know of several religious groups whose members are far better behaved than yours.So don't get too excited
I understand your game. Just end it and let's focus on other things if you want to continue talking so I can expose you further

TATIME:
If you want to know how God's holy spirit taught us to apply that quality, ask us. But if you feel you already know how to apply it on your own, then go out there and apply it the way you or those churches teaches.
There are nine qualities of God's holy spirit, PATIENCE is just one of them! Galatians 5:22-23
We learn how to apply all these qualities in our Kingdom Halls, that's why you can see these qualities ONLY in our group NOT in those people you're calling Christians!

You only apply patience in your kingdom Hall. Does this not confirm what I already said that you practice selfish love?

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm but she still remains your sister and you can still speak well of her despite all these things you're saying now!

For your information, Jesus shun people the most, especially if you are not serious about what he holds so dear!

So if you don't know, know today that Jesus don't get along with people who don't share his opinion!

He publicly told people that Mary(his mother) and his brothers aren't his real mother and brothers as long as they don't subscribe to his opinion! Matthew 12:46-49

He referred to gentiles who never knew God's standards as "DOGS"! Mark 7:27-28

He will never pray for or with you if you don't subscribe to his teachings! John 17:8-9

You've been thoroughly misinformed my friend, the real Jesus of Nazareth is not as loose in friendship as you think. The only thing he does is using his God's given power to cure and raise dead people, but when it comes to friendship Jesus is the most selective person in all history.

So it's because Jehovah's Witnesses are strictly following his pattern that all those who thought they believe in Jesus, but knew nothing about him hate the way we do things! Matthew 10:22; John 17:14

But on the other hand, their conscience is telling them "this people are good, only that they've separated themselves from us" 2Corinthians 6:17

I am not misinformed. I know more about your group than you can ever imagine.
You can't use words or wrong Bible interpretation to confuse me.
Jesus asked you to demonstrate love just like the good Samaritan and not to avoid those who disagree with you.He never asked you to emulate how he treated his parents and religious leaders who opposed him.The instruction was love your neighbor as yourself.Does your organization practice this?
Groups and individuas will always find things in the Bible to support thier personal agenda. There are Bible verses people interpret to support the smoking of weed,the practice of witchcraft,the killing of thier enemies and even internet fraud.
Any religious group that practice selfish love is a cult. God has nothing to do with it

TATIME:
Before you type, try to think first!

Are you saying your own blood sister no more love you (apart from members of her religion) yet you spoke well of her?

Well behaved and loving others are not synonymous.
What I really meant is that your group practice selfish love which is contrary to the teachings of Jesus.you don't love your neighbors as yourself.you shun whoever disagrees with you and withdraw your love
The last time I had an argument with my sister concerning blood transfusion,she stopped calling me for more than two months.Thats not the first time.
One of the qualities of love as it's contained in the Bible is patience .You lack this

TATIME:
To oju ba fara bale a ri imu!

Now you're getting the message, they were one and all intimidated by the OP.

What pained them most is that you add insult to their injury, how can a whole you (Maximus69) one of Jehovah's Witnesses the group they knew and highly respected as best Bible students turned down the challenge instead of helping them to defend their FAITH against the OP!
Is this not the same triplechoice who said so many good things about Jehovah's Witnesses?
If he truly believe in Jesus, what Church is his own that he has failed to mention all this while? Why has he remained silent as if he has nothing to do with Jesus? Instead he started praising a religious group? Only to come back and say "they believe their the best" whereas he himself has said it with his own mouth!

I never said many good things about your group .I only said Jw members I know hardly get involved in criminal activities. And let me bust your bubble. The real reason for your behavior is the fear of shunning. This fear is why you obey instructions and not because of the nonsense they teach you there.
JW best Bible students? And you lack love for your neighbors except your members? You guys are living inside your head and you don't know this
Not much you know about me whether I am a Christian, atheist ,non religious or what position I hold but you and"high thinking" know it all Maximu69 want me to engage the op.Does this not further confirm that you two are delusional?

Maximus69:
Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Àrà òní tán lórí ilè~Wonders shall never end!

So you too believe Jesus is real but kept mute all these while, even when the OP threw a challenge to all those who claims to believe in Jesus!

Where is FOLYKAZE o?

Come and see those who are claiming Jesus is real o!

I came purposely trailing LordReed because i didn't feel any need to waste a second on someone demanding the authenticity of an historical figure whose name has remained relevant for almost 2,000 years in human history!

But you and your cohorts came wagging your tongues at me even when you are of a contrary opinion to the OP!

Sorry my dear, Maximus69 or Jehovah's Witnesses are not the ones you should be looking for to help you defend your FAITH, if truthfully you're of the opinion that Jesus existed, stand up for him and face the OP!

Àwon Òpònú Olódo dede!

When

You made a false accusation without thinking. Instead of owning up, you have resulted to a tirade of abuse .This is the same behavior you have been accusing others of.
Is it not clear now that you're delusional?

Maximus69:
Mentioning you doesn't mean i want to discuss anything with you!

What i said is simple, you claim to be a Christian even though you joined those who despises faith in Jesus to get back at me. I knew you in and out before saying your enemy's enemy automatically become your friend!

Don't forget that both LordReed, FOLYKAZE, triplechoice and Dantedasz all detests the Jesus you claim to be your Lord.

So forget about Maximus69 and concentrate on how to make a defense before all those who are demanding for the reason of your FAITH in Jesus!

But you can deny him anyway because you want to continue trailing Maximus69 for turning you down as his brother in FAITH!

We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

Our brother Elijah stood his ground against 450 adversaries, try to imagine what all those people can be saying against just one man for saying he is not their brother in FAITH!

We are used to whatever you have in mind to say, Jesus said you will say so much hurtful things simply because we've separated ourselves from you.

So if truthfully you are for Jesus, prove it by speaking in support of him in the presence of all these despisers. Maximus69 is already out of your way. Face your warrant!

What is this now? trying to give a dog a bad name?
Where did I destest Jesus? If you cannot provide prove for this , then it would mean that you are pathological liar who has past the point of redemption

Maximus69:
I don't know why you're so upset over this issue. I've dealt with the person i wanted to deal with, now it's over.

Please it's OK let the OP and every other follower continue with OP's mission the historicity and justification thing, after all it wasn't about Maximus or JWs in the first place.

Why is everyone (Churchgoer, Atheist, Babalawo and perhaps freethinker) so worried about Maximus when i'm not the topic of the thread?

An adult should take responsibility for his actions. You not willing to do this. I wonder how any sensible young man can look up to you when you continue to behave the way you have behaving on this thread.

Tatime seem to be your protege and your influence on him is very obvious

LordReed:
Foolish old goat with the fake humility. See yasef. SMH.

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On Sunday, with this same fake humility, he will go about looking for innocents to preach(deceive) to
. Because my sister is a witness , I should stop using my head and support him when he is not making any sense

Maximus69:
See emotion o!

Now age also matters as JWs believe they know it all shey?

Always accusing people of the same thing you're much guilty of

MuttleyLaff:
triplechoice's sister has more sense and intelligence than both you and your bossman TATIME combined together.

Trust you to go for low hanging fruit triplechoice' sister. Shame on you. Mtcheew.

He does not know anything about Google translate and yet he claims to be a former military intelligence officer

Maximus69:
You said she's JW nah!

Abi you too also have the Google/Internet syndrome?

My sister and the JW I know don't behave like you in anyway.

Maximus69:
So far your JW sister is not a clown it's OK.

We all have different gifts!

Shame on you. what concerns my sister with this

You really should be ashamed of yourself .you are not acting your age at all