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Someone once told me that to be an priest in the Catholic Church you must ,apart from the strict rigorous training, acquire a form of education that is equivalent to that of Prof unlike their Pentecostal counterparts who mostly half baked
charlatans.
The write up from this priest and others recently is an obvious confirmation of what I have already been told and I'm not surprised.

If others continue to speak out it would be certain that the way Christianity is practised in this part of the world would definitely change which would forced people to use their head(brain) more


We have so many neurotic individuals masquerading as genuine men of God in the Pentecostal arm of Christianity and misleading millions of ignorant persons

Why should any sane person listen to someone who ask you to sow a seed of money in order for God to make you a millionaire without any business plan in place or keep you in perfect health when you don't even know anything about how your body works and how to take care of it

So many gullible people in our society

Avoiding red meat is good advice .
But it's difficult to accept that after the flood herbivorous animals were forced to eat meat due to absence of vegetation Their mouth parts are not adapted to eat meat
Reno should rethink is story

Righteousness89:
That's for you...

For me, I get prayers First, before I seek any medical Attention...

Why didn't you say so before now if you know it's the right thing to see a doctor after praying

Righteousness89:
Doctors are not Healers...

Many Have Died even with best of Medical attention..

When you compare it with those who have died visiting pastors I think it's safer to see a doctor first before anything

It won't reduce your faith and it will help you know what exactly is the cause of your problem so you can deal with it appropriately.

Not everything is spiritual.
if you are hungry you eat to eliminate your hunger you don't pray inorder fill your stomach

The idea that an external force can influence people without their consent into doing things which some person's consider evil or bad is a scare tactics used by certain religious groups to recruit members.

Once an individual accept such false beliefs or teachings it becomes extremely difficult to have any control over ones life.The person is powerless to stop any negative habits since he now believes that something outside of himself is responsible for his behaviour

Even when the individual is prayed for ,as long as he or she still harbor such false belief,it becomes a struggle to stop and not understaning what is happening the person starts running from pastor to pastor, church to church for the elusive Deliverance that never comes.

If it's actually true that demons influence people against their will to do things which goes against their well-being or that of others,what is the explanation of some non religious persons or atheist who seem not to be affected by these demons and whose behaviour can be described as morally upright? how do they manage to have such control over their lives?

The truth of the matter is that we are responsible either consciously or unconsciously for what we do and whatever happens to us.We should learn to take responsibility without which we cannot be free.Nothing can influence us if don't consent to it

The essential message of Jesus which I see in the people Bible is an empowering one and not of fear of demons
"if you believe, you can do anything and achieve the impossible"

T.B Joshua is a business man who is taking advantage of ignorant souls to promote is business .That's the truth of the matter

Demaduka:
Fr Kelvin Ugwu MSP,
YOU ARE TOTALLY WRONG OR MISCONCIEVED . PAYING MONEY TO A CHURCH IS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM PAYING MONEY TO A PASTOR. IT IS WRONG TO SAY THAT THE MONEY YOU PAID IN THE CHURCH IS MONEY YOU PAID TO THE PASTOR. BY WHAT YOU ARE SAYING, IF YOU ARE A REAL FR. AS YOUR NAME SUGGEST, IT SEEMS THAT YOU USED TO CARRY THE OFFERING GIVENG IN YOUR CHURCH SAYING THAT IT IS MONEY MEMBERS GAVE TO YOU. IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG?

IF ON THE OTHER HANDS AN INDIVIDUAL DECIDES TO PACKAGE HIS OR HER JANUARY SALARY FOR A PASTOR, WHO ARE YOU TO DECIDE IF IT IS RIGHT OR WRONG?

Just look at how confused you are.

Hairyrapunzel:
The child is still alive that's all that matters. It shows that blood transfusion can still save life.

It doesn't always follow what you preach saying blood transfusion is always bad.

Stop looking for someone to
blame in this situation.

I am not looking for anyone to blame.

I have only responded to someone comment.You did not see the person Iquoted?

It was the person I responded to that was looking for who to blame.
Please try to understand a situation before you say anything

I am not even a witness

Maximus69:
It's on the internet Sir!

Immediately our researchers discovered it in the year 2016, they embarked on further research to unravel the secret behind the disappearance of the legs!

Just log in to any browser of your choice and type~

Snakes used to have legs and arms

Back then Islam was dying gradually in my heart,and i was contemplating joining the Jehovah's Witnesses, the religion that taught me what the Bible really teach!.

So anything information that appears on the internet is valid?

I am asking for the specific link where you got your information from so I can verify things


myself




ok.I have seen it .it is not only snakes even humans at a time had a tail.
The disappearance of legs from snakes is due to genetic factors and not because God place a cursed on snakes.It appears you ignored that information from your rresrarch

[quote author=Maximus69 post=85578804]You're on point Sir. Satan wasn't mentioned in the event.

It was God's only begotten son JESUS CHRIST while revealing sacred secrets to his beloved Apostle John that he told us that Satan used the serpent in Genesis as a puppet. So that's how true Christians IDENTIFIED that serpent as Satan! Revelations 12:9

And as regards the curse, well God's word said the serpent will continue to move about on it's belle. It's just few decades ago after a thorough research on the skeleton of snakes that we discovered that they supposed to have FOUR LEGS. But why the legs disappeared our scientists couldn't figure out the answer.

That's why a former military intelligence officer like me have to bow to the wisdom found in God's word (Bible)!


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Please can you share the link to the research done on snakes which puzzled scientist.

[quote author=noucompact post=85576562]WHAT IF AFTER GIVEN THE CHILD BLOOD, AND THE CHILD DIES, WHO WILL THEN TAKE THE BLAIM?[/quot

Fortunately,the child did not die.

Now, if the government had not intervened and the child later died who would then received the blame?

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The advertised products do they work?
All the people I know who have used those items did not receive any healing.Infact three of them later died

Any reason for this?

If it's true that one can actually get healing anywhere why not say so in the first place?

What is the purpose of attending the healing school for a week if I can be healed anywhere(at home)?

Why not tell me the truth before now ?Why wait on till the last day?

How is this sort of behaviour different from that of scammers who hide certain information from their victims in other to defraud them?

I really do not blame these people.They continue to succeed because their victims are living in ignorance or think there is no alternative

Man claims cure for blindness as hundreds troop to herbal facility

Mankessim, a commercial town in the Central Region, is noted for foodstuff, fish and meat. But for some time now, people from all walks of life have been trooping to the town not to shop for these items but to seek healing for various eye challenges, including blindness.

This follows the discovery of a medicine by a herbalist in the town, which has been acclaimed to cure all kinds of eye diseases, including the dreadful glaucoma, which medical doctors say has no cure.

Observation

The herbalist, 60-year-old Mr John Kofi Sackey, aka Odopee, is the proprietor of Odopee Herbal Research and Learning Centre at Mankessim.
The Daily Graphic has visited the centre twice in the last two weeks and met many people receiving treatment.

Unlike the orthodox solutions, which prescribe various forms of surgery and medication, the herbal solution was not applied directly on the eyes. Rather, the herbalist pours the liquid preparation onto a piece of dry wood, puts the wood in a small plastic container for the patient to watch with widely opened eyes for 10 minutes.

The Daily Graphic also observed that the patients, most of them above 60 years, repeated the process three times a day.
After exposing the eyes to the invisible rays of the drug, the patients are made to walk for some time.
They rest for two or three hours and resume the treatment.

Mr Sackey said some of the patients regained their sight on the first day of treatment.

Health authorities

The Mfantseman Municipal Director of the Ghana Health Service (GHS), Mr Martin Daanko, told the Daily Graphic last Wednesday that even though the drug had not undergone any scientific analysis, his personal observation at the herbal centre and the numerous testimonies of cured patients pointed to the efficacy of the herbal medicine.
He said he was particularly happy that the medication was not applied directly on the eyes.
Mr Daanko also commended Mr Sackey for procuring more than 30 licences, certificates, testimonials, citations and recommendations from recognised institutions, including the Traditional Medicine Practice Council of the Ministry of Health, the Ministry of Health Procurement Unit, signed by a former Deputy Minister of Health, Mr Robert Joseph Mettle-Nunoo.

The Municipal Health Director, who visited the centre in the company of the Human Resource Manager at the Municipal Health Directorate, Mr Emmanuel Asante-Aboagye, promised that his outfit would help Mr Sackey to go through the various tests required to certify his herbal preparation for eye diseases at the Centre for Plant Medicine Research, Akuapem-Mampong, and the Noguchi Memorial Institute for Tropical Diseases.

Collaboration

He, however, advised Mr Sackey to collaborate with the Saltpond Government Hospital by sending all eye patients who reported at his herbal centre to the facility for examination before attending to them, and resend them to the hospital to certif

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[quote author=shadeyinka post=84503815]This your post is way lot better in position than our last engagement which was upon hypnosis versus deliverance and I appreciate that.

This topc is a different one entirely so I have responded based on what is before me


I know that your picture of God isn't the conventional (like us church people will believe). However, a starting point t is to know that
1. Spirits exist.
Spirits are beings of non Physical dimensions. They are intelligent, emotional and possess most attributes of human beings (I believe that human attributes are derivatives/immitiation of their emotional, intellectual and attributes)
2. God is a Spirit:
Yes God is Spirit: and hence has attributes of a living being and NOT just a force. God is the PRIMARY SPIRIT and the source of all other spirit s.

I do not agree with the above.Thete is no evidence of a singular entity called God if there is, it is not know.What some of us know or refer to as God is the unseen energy which pervades all of existence.


3. Angels are Spirits:
Angels are created spirits for the purpose of serving God.
4. Satan is a spirit:


There is no entity called Satan

Satan was an angel who rebelled against God with at least a third of the angels of God. The rebellious angels are called fallen angels
5. Demons are spirits:
Demons are hybrids between fallen angels and human spirits. They are neither human nor angels. They are malevolent in nature: very similar to microbes to living tissue.

Well ,even if they exist why should I bother about them when they do not affect me in anyway.I am more interested in dealing with humans I can see physically


6. Humans are Spirits:
Humans are also spirits but a hybrid of both Physical (animal) and Spiritual. The only issue is that human spirit is SICK(PARALYSIS ) because of contamination with spiritual pathogen (seems similar to HIV)

It's unfortunate that your religious indoctrination has made you accept what is not true about yourself, Man as spirit occupying a physical body is not sick.We share the same attributes with the divine . However due to the limitations of the physical body we are not aware of this or find it difficult to accept our divine nature.But we can learn to operate from our position as spirit-beings occupying a physical body if we know how.The how of this is not taught within most religion.Jesus did not come to die for anybody sin but to teach just like himsel thatf we are one with God,spirit or whatever you choose to call it hence the statement

"The kingdom of God is within you'


I had to go through the lenthy explanation to lay the foundation of the next presentation.

Now back to your explanation of healing by faith.
Faith itself is NOT Believing.
Faith is ACTING based on TRUST in God's integrity.

It's difficult to have faith in a God you have not experienced.Beleve is always the starting point and with experience comes faith


What heals is when a Spirit acts on the Physical is such a way as to suspend the normal laws of nature. It's not WILL POWER of BELIEVING something.

But the Bible says "if ye believe......

However ,there is an element of truth in what you have said.Spirit acts on the physical but this action is always activated by something . Thought in the form of strong belief is one of the things that can result in it's activation.This is the real cause for the placebo effect which science is battling to understand.Science is not interested in the spiritual so it's understandable why they ignore the action of spirit


Some humans are more like conduits for "a spirit" to act. I want to believe that T.B. Joshua is one of such.

Everyone can act as conduit for spirit.Even atheist who do not believe in any God are doing this through self believe and achieving results

If TB Joshua is a conduit for healing powers of an almighty God what is happening to others whofailed to receive healingl. is the power of God limited?


A baby can be healed through spiritual intervention but I'm sure you won't attribute such healings to faith from the baby.


A baby is yet to have control over its mind and can be easily influenced by external circumstances so it's possible for a baby to receive healing through suggestions made by someone through prayer

Please if you have a baby that you believe is I'll the best place to go is an hospital.There is no way the pastor can know exactly what is wrong with the baby.If you pray for the baby how can you confirm the healing is complete .Would a child yet to talk confirm this for you.Its madness for anyone to take their baby to a church for prayers instead of an hospital
Even TB Joshua does not encourage this.I know this from family members and friends who attend the synagogue.If you carry a baby there for healing you will directed to immediately see a doctor.You can confirm from anyone who attends that church.If you are doing this please stop it.its pure evil.A lot of foolish and ignorant parents have lost their babies doing so.In some counties you will get yourself arrested if the police gets to know




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shadeyinka:
Oh please fire on.
I will like to have your views

I have watched the video and I have no doubt that the man received a healing

TB Joshua has gone past the point of stage managing miracles.He does not need to do that anymore

Now let's go to the main thing.What is the cause of the healing?

Science has explained that if anyone sufficiently believes without any iota of doubt that something or someone can heal them it actually can result in a healing Studies undertaking to understand how the placebo effect work has proven this time and time again.So there is no doubt that people can get healing through faith.I have had that sort of faith before and got healed

However , science says such healing does not confirm the existence of God.The placebo does not contain anything that can result in healing but people who take them get cured because they are made to think (believe)they are taking the real thing
So it doesn't matter what you believe in . whether your God exist or not as long as you have any such strong believe it can result in a healing or can be of help in any other situation

Did the Prof got healed yes .How ?,by believing that TB Joshua can heal him.But does TB Joshua posses such powers?

@shadeyinka

I would have loved to give my opinion on the healing but since it's for a few selected friends to respond to,I would restrain myself except permitted

It's always difficult to accept that people will always act based on their level of awareness

What anyone does at anytime is based on what they know.If they know better they would do bettet

Jesus said," father forgive them for they do not know what they do"

A person's action should not be used to define them.When we do so ,we deny them the freedom to learn from their mistakes and move ahead

@ op please allow this young lady be Apart from the sextape there is not much we know about her.

BetterChurch:
That's the right direction to go. I have learned that in this divine Journey a guide must be found.

A guide is certainly needed but when we deify such a guide it becomes something else

One of the principal requisites for change and a self-confident personality is to satisfy your own needs first. On the surface this may appear selfish, but let's remind ourselves that only when we have done our best to make the most of ourselves can we be of greatest service to our families, friends, co- workers, communities, etc.

Many people use the philosophy of service to others first as an escape from taking responsibility for changing their own lives. They say that their husband or wife must come first; their boyfriend or girlfriend; their church, family or the world must come first. This is nothing but self-deception. An example of this kind of behavior is the person who buries himself sacrif icially in a commendable project with missionary zeal when, in truth, he can't face and eliminate his own problems .
You can't change the world, but you can change yourself . The only way the human situation will improve is for each individual to take charge of his or her life. The time has come for you to stop everything else and give total priority to your needs first. This is the only way you will ever be free. Physical slavery is a punishable crime but, far worse, is mental slavery for the punishment is, as Descartes put it so well, "A life of quiet desperation. "


Source :Dr Robert Anthony. The ultimate secret of total self confidence

BetterChurch:
Do you believe in God and his supremacy over his creation?

At the moment, the only God I am learning to trust is the one within

I don't think anyone has any knowledge about a Supreme God that controls its creation. We can only speculate but can never be certain about this

BetterChurch:
There is no mystery about the "inner cosmology." The Spiritually Great were once in our position until they met the Living ECK Master of their time and submitted to his tutelage.
But the choice is always made freely without any form of compulsion. Until then, today's mysteries will remain mysteries tomorrow.
Lastly, the True Master has the special ability to act both as an Inner and Outer Guide for the Soul who is ready for Truth here and now and not after death. Only then will doubt become a thing of the past. I am talking about knowingness not merely belief. Soul exists because of Sugmad's love for It is all I can say now. My experiences are numerous but I won't share them here. My apology!

Other groups I have interacted with have also said the same thing. That their master is the living master of the time who can act both as inner and outer master

We have guru Marahadji here in Nigeria who claims to be the living master of the time. Different individuals claiming to be the only true master of the time? How can this be possible?

Everyone cannot be telling the truth. If there is actually a living master of the time, then the others are lying . Funny enough they have all giving the same yardstick to judge who the true
master is

Recently I tried joining one of Such groups through the recommendation of a friend but after attending their gathering a couple of times, I decided not to proceed further due to what I found out. Just the same thing Living master thing. I believe it would have been a waste of time.

I do not think there is any God the has mandated anyone to be its representative. This is my position

BetterChurch:
"These gods have invaded other religions, both East and West, creating the belief that each religion has the original truth it has been able to give out to its followers. These negative powers, however, are only servants to man, although millions worship them in spite of their subordinate position. They each perform a
certain function in carrying on the work of the world, in producing human bodies and in keeping these bodies going. They are only the agents of the Sugmad and not gods to be worshiped. They are almost menials in the grand spiritual hierarchy, but each has certain powers and prerogatives, and within his
own sphere he is all-powerful. Each must carry on according to the definite laws and rules which are laid down for his government. These are laws of nature; and the trinity—no matter in what religion it may be represented—as Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva, may be regarded as servants of the Kal Niranjan, the negative power.
Lower than these three, there is another current of power, or god, who is the working force helping to carry on the administration of the physical universe. His Hindu name is Ganesh, but other religions give him different names. He stands almost at the foot of the ladder of subordinates whose business is to serve mankind and help carry on the work of the world. Therefore, as it is seen, man worships the wrong gods; for all religions, whether or not they deny it, are pantheistic, which means many gods.
Metaphysics, occultism, orthodox religion, and witchcraft deal with the minor gods of the hierarchy. This also includes the elementals and angelic forces in the lower scales of the hierarchy, who dwell in the subtle regions close to the earth. These great hosts of beings are called devas, devtas, bhuts, prets, and by other names. They are beings somewhat above the ordinary man, and they help to serve man in many ways. They have great power and are quite willing to help those individuals who are in harmony with them.
Man is the in-between being, between the spiritual hierarchy and the lowest of the beings: the beasts of the fields, fowls of the air, creatures of the seas, the elements of the soil. But if he works in harmony with all of those powers above him, he will surely receive their help and will eventually rise to the position
where he will meet with the Mahanta, the Living ECK Master and then succeed in returning to the heavenly world, his true home."

—The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

The inner cosmology which is described in the above quote is something that is similar to what I have read elsewhere.

From what I have found out, there are hundreds if not thousands of groups claiming to have the authentic description of this inner region and also having a living master whose duty is to take souls at the point of death to its true home.

I think it is an impossible situation to have several individuals claiming to be the only true representative of God at the same time. That is assuming this God actually exist

How do we know who is telling the truth or how have you been able determine if the discription given and your master is the authentic one? This question I have asked you and still continue ask

If you reply with another quote from your religious text then I will assume you do not have any evidence of your own, even if it is experience that you have had, to support what you believe in

BetterChurch:
"But the Sugmad was not yet pleased with what It had created, so closing Its eyes It dreamed again. This time It formed the spiritual hierarchy of all the universes.
"The hierarchy began with the Sugmad, followed by the ECK, and the Mahanta. After this came the Living ECK Master, the Adepts of the Order of the Vairagi, the lords of each plane within the higher worlds, the guardians of the Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad, and then the lower worlds were formed for those entities named the
Atma, or Soul.
"Over these worlds, which are three in number, It placed the Kal Niranjan, lord of all the negative worlds. With this, It formed the Kal force, which originated and flows out of the Niranjan as its source. Subordinate to the ECK, the Kal, however, takes precedence over all life in the lower worlds. But it is still subject to the will of the Sugmad."

—The Shariyat-Ki-Sugmad

You have not giving me the answer I wanted.. I want to know how you got to confirm sugmad as the name of God and what makes it special.

What you replied is obviously a quote from what seems your religious book. I have read it but it has not answered my question.

BetterChurch:
SUGMAD is a very special name for God commonly used by the ancient Order of the Vairagi Adepts. The head of the Order is always the Living ECK Master of the times.

What makes it special? and the variagi adepts who are they?

BetterChurch:
SUGMAD. SOOG-mahd A sacred name for God. Sugmad is neither masculine nor feminine; It is the source of all life.

Please how did know that sugmad is the sacred name for God and its the source of all life?

OpenYourEyes1:
I think this is beyond you my friends. You have made up your mind already.
Your heart is hardened.
You need to be a little open-minded.

Funny this
You are actually the one who has already made up is mind because your reply shows you never read anything I talked about

I just went through some of your topics and realized it was a waste of time engaging you
I pray you find the help you need

OpenYourEyes1:
Well, I would say thesame thing to anyone who hear things if this had never happened to me.

The reason you insist on this is because you don't understand fully what created those experiences for you
I have experienced something similar to your kind of experience. Initially I thought it was real until I decided to speak with someone who I believe knew better. Thank God I did and I have never had that kind of experience again. This is the reason I adviced you previously to seek professional help or speak with someone you think may have experience on this sort of thing. It is only when a professional cannot identify any reason for your experience before you can now start looking for any kind of Spiritual explanation But from the pattern (grandiose and exaggerated claims) which has emerged from your story I suspect what you had was a psychotic episode. Nearly everyone has experienced this sort of thing. For some persons the episodes are usually severe

Hard drugs, certain prescription, bipolar

disorder and the reading and viewing of certain materials which can programme you with fear are some of things which can result in psychotic episodes. If the cause was due to what you read or watch then the solution is simple. Discontinue reading or watching immediately but if medical then medication and counseling is the way to go. The earlier the better


And finally do you really believe you caused the internet to shut down?
did youhave any confirmation from the engineers in charge of the internet that something mysterious which they cannot explain happened on that particular day to make you arrive at this conclusion?
If you have any such outer evidence please share it.

OpenYourEyes1:
Which videos?

The one in your op and others you have been exposed to

And would also like to warn you that your statements that you caused the internet to shut down and heard voices in your head are psychological disturbing

Don't hide your experience share it with someone you think is experienced enough to counsel you

@ openyoureyes


Your experience is as a result of feeding your mind with those youtube videos

The imageries they contained, if focused on long enough, will drag anyone into a state of delusion

I advice you discontinue watching immediately and if possible seek professional help

A lot of persons have had their mind ruined by those youtube videos

You are the only one that can interpret or understand this reoccurring dream. Don't allow anyone do it for you. There is nothing spiritual about it or to be afraid of.
The dream simply reflect your habitual thought. Maybe there is something in your life that is bothering you but you are unwilling to confront it. This has created a conflict which your dream is now reflecting. It could also be that you procrastinate a lot. You keep things till the last moment before doing them. Dreams of seeing yourself going back to your former school to sit for an exam without being able to finish or have anything to write may reflect your feelings of unpreparedness concerning something you have to do in your outer life.

The above may help in understanding the dream or you can ignore it all if it does not apply. Once you can unravel what in your outer life that is the cause the dream will cease to bother you or will stop

Have you considered seeing a professional counselor? You may get help thete

[quote author=Originakalokalo post=79662778]We are not bothering about demons. People need to know about their operations.



Your explanation of their operations is not of any importance since we have the ability to think our thoughts and make our decisions. Except you cannot think for yourself only then should you be worried
I also think you should first of all understand the operation of the physical which you can see before trying to understand what you cannot see

Finally, I believe you are trying to create a fictitious world populated by demons who control humans in order to give a sort of validity to your religious beliefs

Originakalokalo:
We are not bothering about demons. People need to know about their operations.

Serving God is done with the help of the holy spirit.

But don't forget that one can have the holy spirit and choose not to obey him.

"Do not vex the holy spirit"

Your explanation of their operations is not of any importance since we have the ability to think our thoughts and make our decisions. Except you cannot think for yourself only then should you be worried
I also think you should first of all understand the operation of the physical which you can see before trying to understand what you cannot see

Finally, I believe you are trying to create a fictitious world populated by demons who control humans in order to give a sort of validity to your religious beliefs