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Oh my God! Tatime and maximus 69 are complete clowns
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smat101:
If you people can also be a free thinker, you will see that most of his analogy are not factual... Just like he talked about someone born into a poor family, and poverty is stamped in his subconscious mind...
What will then talk about rich men kids that had everything they needed right from child hood, even schooled abroad, never knew the feeling of hunger YET are never successful in anything in life apart from spending their father's money...
Think Friends

It's clear now that you did not take your time to read the op"s presentations or you did but failed to understand anything. The answer to your question is there on this thread but your biases has prevented you from seeing it.

Please drop your biases and read again

damentalist:
I swear baba, I will just ignore from now on. If i realize someone does not have basic understanding of the things I am talking about, and has no desire to truly learn, I will just ignore. Dem go tire person on top of help pesin wan give.

You don't need to ignore. it maybe your mission is to help such people.

Some of them are actually looking for help but they don't know it
I can see that one of them is strongly tied to the Armoc egregore and is unconsciously looking for help please by patient

smat101:
damentalist is a free thinker yet you his follower is not...
think for your self onlyforchrist. you're been initiated, the more he gets disciples that performs those ritual continuously, the stronger his egregore becomes... I've read through every single post of Afromentalist on nairaland, Some were insightful I must say... but you his followers has to be wise and think for yourself or at least use google...

know this :As a child I grew up so innocently that I though everyone was kind and loving until I became and adult...No one finds a gold mine and runs to the public and announce it unless he needs a hand
be wise

No one can initiate you into something without your consent. If it were to happen at all without you realising what you are into, it will not last.
The reason for this is because your higherself which is the God in you, screens whatever activity you are engaged in and guide and send warnings if you should go ahead or discontinue with it .If you come to harm or get initiated into something without your consent,it's because you choose to ignore it's guidance But if the connection is strong no harm can come to you and when you choose to ignore it,it will find a way to pull you out of it I have several experiences that I can share to prove this

This is the truth my friend. Please stop spreading fear.

FOLYKAZE:
@triplechoice The whole jw organisation are deluded. One of their publications, MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD, posit that the evidence for the global flooding and noah ark is the multiple flooding myth, and their members believe it to the last letter. How could a reasonable person authenticate historicity of a story with multiple fables?

The only thing I read is the awake magazine The few times I tried to read their other publications were disappointing . It's difficult for me to accept what they contain.

As for personal behavior,I really can't say much but one thing I know is that the members hardly get themselves involved in criminal activities .Outside this country ? don't know
The one thing that puts me off is thier arrogance. They believe that no one outside thier group knows the truth

FOLYKAZE:
Hahahaha

He thought, never too sure, that Maximus69 could never attempt to respond to the OP, not because generally, jw do not of the duty of answering questions, but Max failed to provide the rightful and needed answer.

It all false flag, Max failed both in providing the needed evidences required or convincing anyone that Jesus existed. He rather got himself, jw organisation and the faith exposed and ridiculed. And all he can do is save face and lie with both sides of his mouth, denying he attempted engaging the OP.

I am still shocked about the denial. I never expected this from him and even when all the evidences of his attempts are still there on this thread.

Now, this Tatime is trying to turn everything into what I am yet to understand inspite of the fact that I have made my intentions clear to him

And one final thing ,the JW I know offline don't act like the one's here. These group here are quick to cast aspersion, use abusive language and vieled insults once you don't agree with them

TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnesses don't need that!
Perhaps you've forgotten what you typed about Jehovah's Witnesses lifestyles!
So you yourself have made that advertisement already, our activities and lifestyles in your neighborhood have made you spoken for us. 1Perter 2:12
Though you tried to hide your feeling now IT'S TOO LATE!

My comments about your group is based on my own personal experiences alone and I still stand by it. My younger sister is a witness and have friends who you witnesses too . Others may have their own contrary opinion about your group based on their own experiences.

But the issue at hand has nothing whatsoever to with that . Maximus69 is no more interested in discussing the op but the benefits of his group the reason I asked he opens a thread for that and I will participate by mentioning some of that good things I know about your group. .Then others can also have the opportunity to say whatever they have to say too.

Instead of this display of emotions, why don't you take your time to read my previous reply , analyze it and respond appropriately

TATIME:
I think he said it's LordReed he was chatting with!

It's after he has discovered that Folykaze is the owner of the thread and gotten the purpose of the thread that he told Folykaze he didn't come for him or interested in the topic!

You think? It means you are not sure .Please go through the thread to be sure that maximum69 never attempted to respond to the op And when you do, I would like to what you will now think.

Incase you have forgotten,advise maximum69 to open a thread on the benefits of belonging to JW organizations.It seems he is more interested in that

damentalist:
Hello guys,

I have been banned by the nairaland bots for whatever reason. I will be back in the 21st.

I hope you guys are doing well.

I will add an accompanying exercise today to prepare us for the real game changer.
Don't bother about that religious crusader. Does he know me in real life? What makes him believe I am not one of those he mentioned?

Truth is, I am a successful businessman that came from a poor background and was rejected by the parents. I had to change the course of my life.

More money is not necessarily more happiness and there is a threshold I do not necessarily wish to cross.

I have been wondering what has happened.

I am doing good.

TATIME:
Maximus i think you've disturbed him enough with all this teasing, and i don't think he's happy about the way you keep posting him without dancing to his tune.
So please let it go, ok?

If Pa Maximus does not want to dance to Folykaze"s tune why did he jump to the center of the stage and pretending he wants to dance? If he does not like the tune why responding at all?

You just came in to throw dust in people's eyes.The aim of the op is clear .it has nothing to do with what you are benefiting from your religious affiliation

Pa Maximus has been dancing to a different tune .If he is only interested in discussing what he feels he has been benefiting from his religious affiliation, tell him to open a thread for that and not what you're trying to do now.

If you practice any religion and you think it has made you a better person, then you have the choice to stick with it

Trying to prove that your religion is superior or the only true one is just beating the air because all religion are the same the only difference is what is contained in their various religious text .it's indoctrination and nothing more that makes you believe yours is superior
Those who live in glass house should not throw stones

Afromentalist:
Hello Guys,

It is time for practice. After giving you guys enough time to ponder on what we have seen of recent, and to start asking questions, it is important that we start practicing.

- This here should be approached as a scientific experiment, not a religious experience. Your attitude should be that of curiosity, not that of blind faith. Curiosity means to be open enough to try it for yourself and see the results, but remain critical to avoid confirmation bias.

- As a scientific experiment, It is highly encouraged to keep a record of your progress. Write down each day you perform the required exercices. Write down how you felt, and what you experienced. Write down what is unusual during the course of the day. Write down your doubts, your expectations, your state of mind. At the end of the it all, you can be able to better appraise the whole process.

- I do not guarantee anything to anyone. If you are unsatisfied, feel free to drop it and move to whatever you feel will work better for you. You are even free to seel your house and give to those crooks calling themselves pastors, instead of taking back your fate in your hands. It is ultimately your own choice.

- Be patient and open enough. If you are 25 years old, chances are you have been programmed into your situation for at least 20 years. Do not expect to deprogram yourself in 20 seconds. Remember, Consistency and Repetition are key. In my experience, the first results are seen after about 21 days, and more drastic results are clearly seen after 3 months.

- The greatest power of a Mentalist is the Willforce. Your will is your only and last resort against fate. Show my the power of your will, I will show you, your destiny. Don't start with us, if you are not ready to put in at least 3 months of exercising everyday UNFAILINGLY. If you have doubts, don't start. If you start and don't continue at least 3 months, it will be 10 times more difficult for you the next time. You have been warned. A word is enough for a Mentalist.

- No money, no sacrifice, no allegiance to any god or doctrine is required.

- I would want everyone willing to embark on the journey to report in short words in this here thread. The report must not be detailed, but will serve as an encouragement for myself and others. At some point, if and when I will be willing to dwelve into deeper things, I will personally contact those who have shown a constant dedication. You can always use an alternate account for this purpose, if you do not want your main moniker to be exposed.

If everyone agrees on those terms, we shall proceed. Let me hear from you.

I am open to try anythingI that is safe and works for my highest good But one question. is it something that can practiced anywhere and at anytime you choose? The nature of my job require I travel Sometimes

elated177:
Just answer the questions and quit with the ranting and rambling?

But I have answered you long ago.
Now , you are the one who has been rambling because you are yet to show where this conversation is heading to.
Sorry, I already discontinued the conversation and wouldn't be replying you anymore
Goodday

elated177:
Why are your heart and mind filled with so much bile? Is this your way of projecting evil to people? You have failed woefully.

Define religion? What does it mean to be religious?

Stop insulting yourself thinking that you are insulting me.

I can see that your ignorance is a huge handicap for you
You asked q simple question at the beginning and I have long replied you If my reply is not acceptable to you what do you want me to do? .

Whether I like it or not I should accept a position which I do not subscribe to? Is that not bullying on your part?
Now ,I am the evil one whereas you are the one who is actually trying to project evil towards me something you are very good at by the evidence of your threads on this board

I don't have patience with religious fundamentalists. Those who do not agree to your extreme views, you label them evil inorder to destroy them. This is what you're starting to do now. But of course you know you have failed hence your frustration..

Afromentalist:
With respect to what you said concerning Egregores,

Yes you are correct. I have never had it complicated to disconnect to an egregore because I have never been strongly initiated into a secret society, despite the many offers and temptations I found on my path. And the reason is simple: I always knew that true development requires independence and freedom. Secret societies that require all kinds of commitments and secrets give room for a lot of manipulation and ultimately I have always been convinced in the long run it is just not worth it. I intend to open a thread on this topic in the future, like I have previously indicated, and the title shall be: Secret societies, when and why to join them, why and how to leave them. or something like that.

Now I have seen cases of people who suffered the problems you outlined in your post. People running mad, or rushing to churches/alfas/gurus to find freedom. I have had to manage one case myself.

Like I said in my previous post, it always depends on the degree of implication in that particular egregore, because eventually the law of equity must be respected. To he much is given, much is expected. If you enjoy great advantages from a particular egregore, you don't expect to leave it and go scott free. If you sign a blood pact within a secret society, you don't expect to face the same issues as he that just got baptised into a church.

The most common approach to find total freedom in case of serious implication is usually to find an equivalent powerful egregore to join. That's why it is not senseless for people to run away from say Amorc and join a praying Church. If they succeed to completely break off the Amorc egregore, they can now later, break free from the church (which is easier to achieve). So yeah it is not necessarily jumping from frying pan to fire.

Still, in all cases, the real thing is to awaken the sleeping God in you. When the God in you awakes, there is no egregore that can match him. People suffer because they ignore who they are. The greatest power in the universe in sleeping, dormant within us.

Well ,I will keep my fingers crossed untill you begin the practicals.

Concerning the egrregore,I think we should postpone the discussion to the time when you can fully devote attention to it.There are other complex issues which if brought in now, may take away our attention unnecessary from the main thing.
Thanks for your response.

Afromentalist:
It is possible to break free from all egregores. It is even the ultimate aim of human experience. The samsara wheel shows the relationship between this world and the world dominated by the egregores. We live here and look for their help. When we die, we go and serve them as payment (thinking we are in some heaven or hell). Once the time is over, we come back here and still again look for their help. And the cycle continues.

It is my opinion that divine consciousness happens when one manages to reject all form of egregoric slavery. breaking free to find and follow one's true purpose.

The usual procedure to be free from an egregore is to take an inner decision to depart. This applies to simple ideologies such as perhaps a pentecostal movement. If the adherent has been initiated into an egregore (such as the case may be in esoteric circles) depending on the strenght of the covenant with it it is more appropriate to make known officially (usually per writing) one's desire to withdraw to the "master" that manages the egregore and return every object and documents related to that egregore. One should also be prepared to lose everything they got from that egregore (positions, benefits and the like). Unshakable faith and determination are required, but normally it is achievable.

As for your first reply, I wasn't referring to blind belief. I only wanted to know what sort of attitude one needs to adopt when using your method, I know from own my experiences and from what I was taught that results are gotten quicker with an attitude of expectancy while trying to create anything in your life using creative visualization

Then concerning the issue of breaking free from an egrregore, I can sense that you have treated it topically. I think I can understand why.

The truth of the matter is that it's not as easy as you have described it. It's like a drug addict who tries to break free from his addiction's. There are withdrawal problems to deal with. I know of some individuals who still went back to the group they have abandoned years after they left While some others went to the church, (from frying pan to fire) believing they are now free without realizing they are still corded to the egrregore of the exoteric group they just left. And others who could not cope from the internal dislocation which occurs while trying to break free ,either end up in the mad house or committed suicide .The thing is that most of these groups distort ones reality
I hope we discuss more of this later because I know a lot of persons are trapped without knowing it and those who know don't know how to break free.
So let's move to the next stage as you promised

elated177:
Difference between what?











What do you really believe in, triplechoice?

Not every non religious is an atheist. I expected you to know this. If you don't, then get yourself educated This is the internet age. You can always help yourself. If you are too lazy to do so, then continue to stew in your ignorance. I can't help you, But if you come up with what you have in mind, maybe as we interact you get to know what believe in.

https://www.nairaland.com/5223524/questions-those-dont-religion-believe
This might help .you will find my post there

Maximus69:
There is no legal job JWs won't participate except TWO.
Politics
Military
Apart from these two we are ready to do everything within our capability to serve people and make life easy for ourselves and our neighbours.
Jesus asked us to give Caesar his things and that is paying our TAXES, let them do whatever pleases them with it.
But to participate in the use of weapons, he strictly warned us saying "all those who lead by the sword, will perish by the sword" Matthew 26:52
Of course we lead by examples, showing everyone that all we need is to make peace with people around us instead of forcing our intentions on them with weapons!
Let everyone be given equal right in everything we do on planet earth, each person deserves a house, a car and all other necessarily things of life EQUALLY including the same salary for everyone from the age of 18, and see if we will need weapons for any reason again.

But i'm sure you'll say "that's not possible!"
Well it's possible just that humans are fund of subjecting their fellow man to ridicule, intimidation, humiliation, deprivation and by the end of the day they will distribute weapons for the same deprived ones only to ask them to protect them and their stolen material things from the same deprived people.
That's why we are saying "humans are deceiving themselves, there can never be PEACE without equal right and justice".

That's what God's Kingdom is coming to do!

There is no point continuing this argument as we are going to be derailling this thread

You have been rambling and have not been able to provide any reasonable answer to any of my questions . You are only concern with what you believe you are doing right. This is the game you have been playing with Folykaze. Instead of providing an appropriate response to his query , you always find a way to chip in your "peace making" as if that would answer the question asked
And I believe I just worsen it by praising your group.
Good day Maximus ,the peace making expert

Afromentalist:
I wanted to continue with further real life examples and explanations but at this point, I think we can stop the theory here for the moment and begin intense practice. We shall practice for a limited period of time with different exercises of increasing interest and difficulty. We will see how the theory here translates in real actions one can take to recover the key to one's life fate.

Before we engage in it, the floor is open to whatever serious questions you might have. Disagreements are expected and welcomed provided they come with arguments. Religious people are welcomed but religious crusading shall be ignored.

Cc lordreed triplechoice tillaman Stanley al Pacino Oblitz ekejoestar gensteejay

How do you deal with doubt when working with the second method of not using an egrregore?
I have observed that sometimes doubts still come inspite of the successes one may get Somtimes you think, it might just be coincidence. Or when you look around, you see people who you think don't use or know these things succeeding and you wonder if you are not wasting your time.Or what is the explanation for those who were born into poverty and still manage to succeed without knowing any of these things? Is it that they unconsciously used these principles?

And another thing, I know for this to work one must believe and expect it will work.Or does your method work whether you expect it to work or not?

And finally,how can one break free from an egrregore,is it possible especially when such an egrregore is something that is tied to the family bloodline?

Maximus69:
The underlined is where i will comment on.

Today we're numbering 8.7 millions globally and everywhere you find us, it's the same way we behave. One thing i'll like you to know is that most of us were worse than those people you called "EVIL", but how come we have changed into what you know today?
Well Jehovah's Witnesses in our neighborhood came to knock on our doors, many of them we insulted, abused, cursed even assaulted physically!
But they persisted with their mild presentation until our stony hearts were melted.
Had it been they have used force on us, i for one would have loved that it will give me the guts to show them the stuff i'm made of.
But NO, they remained calm, cool and collected.
For your information, there is nothing as in NOTHING anyone can do to stop the menace Satan is bringing on the human race!
Jesus said it will continue to worsen than this. We have NO LIFE NOW, all we have is the opportunity to prove to God that we're spotless and guiltless in the blood of innocent people!
If the next minute means our life, so be it our running from one place to another is not to live comfortably but to get the message across if possible to others who might need to hear it!
This world is doomed Sir!
Only God's Kingdom is the lasting solution, if the people like let them gather more weapons for their security personnels, the next minute the same security personnel may turn against the ones he is paid to protect all because he wants what they are protecting "material things of life"
So we fully understand what you are thinking Sir, but the truth is it's not going to work. Satan is winning more people to his side than ever, the only way to play your part is to join Jehovah's Witnesses to PREACH and TEACH perhaps to snatch some away from Satan and make them Jehovah's Witnesses, i'm sure you now know what it means if you're able to do that!

You and your group advocates that people should not carry arms to confront criminal elements. But do you deny the fact those who carry arms(security personnels) are indirectly doing so on your behalf by protecting you with it.

If you say they are on their own and you don't want to be a party to it, then just like your group members abstain from blood, you should let the government of each country where you have your kingdom Hall know that you don't need armed men protecting you since it's against what Jesus says Infact that was what Jesus did when he stopped his disciples from fighting back with swords as he was about to be arrested by the Roman soldiers So please obey Jesus by telling the government that on no account should any armed security personnel try to protect your members whenever they see that you're under any form attack. Then people will truly know that you serious about it.untill then, you should accept that armed men are currently protecting you.And please don't deny this

FOLYKAZE:
Tell him to read about Jainism if he wants peaceful and non violence religion system. JW claiming peaceful and non violent but violently killing animals, denying animal right and eating meat, even when the bible said “For what happens to the sons of men also happens to animals; one thing befalls them: as one dies, so dies the other. Surely, they all have one breath; man has no advantage over animals, for all is vanity. All go to one place: all are from the dust, and all return to dust.” Eccl. 3:19-20

Apt response though

He does not want to come to terms with the short comings of his group. .JW always believe they are infallible. They will never agree to anything that you say even if you present them with hard evidence. It's only what they're taught and made to accept as truth that they know
Though I must have to admit that,despite my criticism, they hardly cause trouble or engaged in criminal activities wherever you find them.That's one of the good things about this group. If other religious groups in this country can emulate them , then crime would be greatly reduced. Yahoo boys are active members in most of these Churches you see around and they pay tithe regularly from the proceeds of what they do

Unfortunate:
Why the mention.?

Sorry was a mistake. The reply was for maximus. Pls ignore

Maximus69:
You missed a point there Sir!

Intelligent individuals takes the step to make peace when you and the next person are still living as Neighbours, NOT after they've been provoked! Proverbs 15:1, 17:14

For your information Sir, every individuals nursing contrary opinion to yours is a prospective emeny in the making!

So going to pay them a courtesy visit when you're not invited is the best way to show that you're for peace. After you've rubbed minds with them, they'll feel their is no danger coming from your side and so they'll be ever ready to PROTECT you not EXTERMINATE you.

But when you go out on the broad way cursing them with megaphones in the name of preaching, they'll not feel safe around you, and according to the military intelligence the best form of DEFENSE is to ATTACK.

Jesus sent us to teach people all these ideas but when they turned against us thinking it's nonsense, we will leave their territories for them {Matthew 10:23} time will tell whether we are right or wrong!

The secret of this is that Satan (an intelligent spirit being) and his cohorts knew through all the events happening now that God's kingdom will come soon and they don't want any human to survive into God's kingdom, so they're the ones instigating people into killing one another.

So what you're seeing in the northern part of Nigeria today will soon become a global phenomenon, gradually people are developing intense hatred for their fellow man, the only way to prove your innocence is the house to house preaching and teaching that Jesus commissioned.
Of course it's not the solution but it's the only way to prove you're guiltless in all of these!
Thanks!

You continue to avoid the real issue.There are evil people everywhere.They can be your neighbors without you knowing it.These are the armed robbers , kidnappers and ritualist .how do you deal with these people or deter them? is it through dialogue ? how do you dialogue with people who hide true identity to perpetrate evil?

As for the Boko Haram terrorist, the number of people they have killed or continue to kill does not bother you? and it's non of your business if the killings continue since your organization is against the use of arms to fight or deter them?

Where is the love that you preach if you are not bothered about what is happening to your neighbors? and according to Jesus, who are your neighbors?

See, I don't have anything against jw since I know most of members are to a large extent well behaved and can hardly be found engaged in any criminal activity.So you are less of a touble to any community that you live in.But you can do more by at least supporting those who put their lives at risk to ensure that those who plan to rob or kidnap you are deterred from doing so.
At night when you sleep and snore there are security personnels who patrol the streets to ensure you are safe ,Some of them even lose their lives when they encounter this evil people Any security personel killed in these encounters has made a sacrifice with his life for you and I.You don't use watch tower or awake magazines to deal with these people if you are unfortunate to meet with them.They only dialogue they understand is force[/quote]

elated177:
Did you just mention sincerity? Seriously!

Your posts suggest that you are an atheist. How is it that you claimed not to be one?

Are you an atheist or not?

What's your problem?
I have told already that if you can't tell the difference, I cannot help you
I am yet to come across any atheist who would hide or deny their identify especially on an anonymous forum like this.
What exactly is it that I have said to make you conclude that I an atheist.
Asumming I were to be one . What do you intend to do?
My friend please stop quoting me if you have no reasonable thing to say. And for the last time , it's your problem if you're not intelligent enough to tell the difference.

Afromentalist:
Hello Baba, disagreements are inevitable and very welcome. But I just want to make sure that you understand my point very clearly.

1- I did not say that suggestions can't affect the higher self. I said motivational speech (word of faith, positive thinking and talking) is a first step, but in itself it is not enough. Now Suggestion can't be limited to positive thinking and word of faith. As you know even a sigil is a suggestion while it is not a positive thought.

Almost every nigerian pentecostal christian practice word of faith. Thats a core bone of their preaching. IThe main doctrine of the Oyedepos and the Oyakilhome is positive thinking. Do you see them experiencing a radical change? a Word of faith is good, but not good enough. It is not the fast lane. And the reason is very clear: The higher self does not (clearly) understand english. All your english you are talking is only good for your rational self.

2- With respect to hypnosis, I do not consider Hypnosis as evidence of interaction with the higher self. The higher self as you know is the God in us. That which is divine and essential at the very core of our being. Hypnosis is simply a method to get to the base of the lower self.

Hypnosis will only make the hypnosed do what he already want (but he is not aware of it), and not what he does not want. Meaning under hypnosis, a person is still within its program. You can take hypnosis as the safe mode of the computer. All the other programs are still except the very necessary one.

You can hypnose someone and he jumps like a Monkey, but you can't hypnose someone to become Rich for instance.

So according to me, hypnosis is no indication of a direct contact with the God in us.

Since you are already a practitioner, I would add this: a better approach to suggestion is the use of Images and feelings (coupled with the positive thinking / word of faith). It will work 100 time faster and bring quicker results.

You know sometimes what seem obvious to you may not be so for others.

I thought that some persons might get confused or find it difficult to accept when hear that affirmations don't work or do much
I believe that what you just explained may clear any such confusion or doubt.
It's ok.

Maximus69:
I'm sorry if i've offended you in any way, please i tender an apology!

Let's talk about taking part in the military.

First and foremost, you need to know that any organized army is targeted at disarming their opponents NOT killing them. If you carry your weapons on your head or white flag it simply means you've surrendered for peacemaking, and any soldier who aim at you will definitely be sentenced to death.
For your information, that's why the Nigerian armies aren't killing the insurgents as many civilians like you would have suggested. Those insurgents knows the rules, so whenever they're captured, the next thing is to carry their weapons on their head meaning they've surrendered any no soldier has the right to aim at them anymore!

But we're talking about PEACE here, so how do you go about peace making?

I want you to understand that the first step is to meet one on one with your neighbor to iron out your differences through dialogue. That's exactly what Jesus of Nazareth introduced.
If your neighbor said he won't live by the same standard as you do, then you find a common ground so as to cohabit in peace.
What you're seeing those terrorists doing today didn't begin with Islam, it was the Romans that brought the idea of using religion to blur the sense of their captives.
Go and read the history of the Roman Catholic Church and you'll see that it's what they laid down that triggered the Muslims to start fighting religious wars up and down!
The Muslims believe that Christians have used the crusades to steal most of their lands and now they're fighting to have it back, but more to that they now feel they can dominate the world if they did not relent in their effort.

So if Christianity was practiced the way Jesus commissioned it WITHOUT the use of force, Muhammad who later claim to be a prophet have no option than to adopt the same peaceful program, but by the time Muhammad walked this planet, it was the Roman Catholic Crusaders that were conquering villages, towns and cities in Jesus name that he met claiming Christians!

So Jesus never taught his followers to force their beliefs on others or fight with swords to conquer people for him just as those white colonial masters came to do back then in Africa. They did the same thing to the Arabs back then that's why the Arabs are now coming back to do the same thing thinking anyone carrying Bible is for the Catholic Crusaders!

You have not offended me in anyway. But it's annoying to hear you continue to talk of peace making that's not felt by anyone.

The question is how do you disarm the mindless terrorist who have been ravaging the nothern part of this country. is it through dialogue? You have said yes. Then why has your group not gone there to dialogue with them to make peace? What is stopping you from entering sambisa forest ? Please I need reasonable answers and not your usual evasive response

Maximus69:
Your thinking is catapulted towards one goal "EYE WITNESS ACCOUNT"

But you forgot to note that people are moved to pen down things that's strange NOT thing that has happened and recorded before!

For instance, what can you make out of a rape issue when it has been heard of in many places?
Or what do you think about ritualism when people have heard lots of it?

My friend we are talking about the Israelites here!
There has been lots of miraculous events happening in their midst for ages, so Jesus coming to perform miracles can be strange only to races who never experienced such NOT amongst the Israelites who have had similar experiences with different prophets in the past! Matthew 16:13-14

Today how many documents have you personally made and preserved for up coming generation about corrupt politicians, electricity black outs, bribery everywhere, underaged prostitution, terrorism and so on all happening in our society during your lifetime?

Of course you wouldn't because it has become like unavoidable thorns in the flesh of Nigerians, so we're already used to the system. But imagine if students from the army school should get weapons, kill all corrupt politicians and establish a new government where nobody is allowed to own more than a house, a car or earn above/below N100,000!
Of course no Nigerian will ever forget to pass such information to the coming generation!

Only Jesus' followers penned down the events because he commissioned them to tell it to the world! Matthew 28:19-20

The gap between the time of event and writing is logical, because they began writing down all what they heard and saw after all what this young man prophesied had happened during their own lifetime!

It was God's holy spirit that reminded them all what this young man did and told them decades after his ascension! John 14:26

That's why i said "if you don't believe in all these it's OK, other individuals will put faith in what they've heard and seen with their own eyes"

I for my part became a Christian NOT because i had interest in the records of their so called miracles, but because of one single word " Christian Soldiers"

I read the story several times and i couldn't find anyway a Christian (follower of a Jewish carpenter turned preacher, who never learnt nor raised a weapon to kill anyone) could be a soldier (armed men using weapons and force to accomplish their goal).

So i began studying all the religious groups claiming Christians around me until i found the Jehovah's Witnesses!

This group will never raise a weapon, in fact it's totally against their norms to be a military officer or force man, yet they're zealously conquering villages, towns, cities and countries.
Even in the stronghold of world renoun racist nations, these people have penetrated and initiated members who have vowed never to participate in politics or racism again!

Well that's when i now concluded that this Jesus who made that prophecy regarding people coming out from different races to form one big and happy family of peace loving worshipers once lived on this planet, and all what was written about him is TRUE! Isaiah 2:1-4 compare to John 13:34-35;17:20-23

You seem to take great pride in always mentioning that your group does not carry arms or is not interested in arms conflict and for this your are promoting peace. Good and very good
But my friend , there are crazy people in the world. These set of humans, no matter where you find, derive pleasure in doing evil. Force is the only thing that can stop them. Not your watch tower and awake magazine.

What is even more annoying for me is that you are completely blind to the fact that Nigerians soldiers fighting Boko Haram, with some of them getting killed, are doing so to protect you and I. You people are not making peace but living in denial

If not for the effort of the military, Boko Haram would have extended to the southern part of the country and no where would be safe. Then what would you do ? of course you will run to cotonou or Ghana (that's your usual advice) to continue your pretentious peace making nonsense. Bunch of cowards!

I am beginning to understand why the Russian government that depends on the size and strength of it's military don't want you.

You claim to be a former military intelligence officer but it's difficult to see this in any of your post.

Afromentalist:
Ignore that guy, he is a well known religious crusader / troll. His only aim is to confuse the thread.

Of course I will ignore him.

Now concerning your last post, there are certain things I don't agree with

You seem to suggest that affirmations are not enough but I know that the subconscious mind (the higher self) is anenabe to suggestion especially when such suggestions are issued consistently with focus and concentration.
And also, if the higherself does not respond to logical command as you have said ,
how do you explain the reaction of hypnotised subjects who are obviously responding to the suggestion issued by the hypnotist?

elated177:
Your posts suggest otherwise.

Then you are not a sincere person.

If you already conclude that I am atheist,then why don't proceed with what you have in mind so that you can get further confirmation?

If you cannot tell the difference, sorry I cannot help you Or maybe you should ask the holy spirit .

Please discontinue the questioning and tell me what you have in mind if not don't expect my reply

elated177:
Are you sure?

are you confused!?

elated177:
You are an atheist, I suppose?

No. Why do you want to know?

Following.