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The problem we have in this part of the world is that when we start to experience any kind symtom we are unwilling to visit the nearest hospital or health center to find out what is actually wrong with us, except when the situation becomes worst or very critical.I would not lie I am also guilty of this sometimes.

I am sure not many persons right now, during this period of coronavirus pandemic would be willing to come out to let those in charge know what is actually wrong them. This behavior would only make things worst.


Just imagine if the op had actually contacted the virus before she went for test.By now some of the persons that she had contact with would probably have contacted it too .Please let's try to do the right thing at this time.

I just hope it doesn't spread further before the cure or vaccine is developed

LordReed:
Walking away specialist! Maximus69 the storyteller! I hail your ability to manufacture stories. LMFAO!

walk away
— phrasal verb with walk verb
UK /wɔːk/ US /wɑːk/
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disapproving
to stop being involved in a situation because it is difficult to deal with or does not give you any advantages:

Let Maximu69 continue to expose himself. He is lucky the forum is an anonymous one

TATIME:
Because she is also one of the ACCUSED!
So you can't separate her from Jehovah's Witnesses when pointing accusing fingers at her organization, go and tell her you're discussing with her brothers on Nairaland, and explain everything that's been going on, our EVIL deeds and also all the good and EVIL things you said about her religious group. Most importantly, don't forget to introduce her to those BETTER groups because she's YOUR blood sister NOT just your neighbor. And i'm sure you'll like her to become BETTER by associating with the BETTER groups!

Eke, Alabosi!

Shame
Leave my sister out of it and besides she is an adult. I cannot forced her to abandon her choice.If she decides to leave your group tomorrow,it does not change anything between us.
I don't condemn,judge and completely avoid people because of what they choose to do with their lives except they want to drag me into it when I am not interested.
So stop this childish game of trying to drag my sister into our discussion and let's focus on what you have to offer.

What is Jesus greatest commandment?
Do you know it?

Maximus69:
Mention that religious group but don't just go ahead using MAN-MADE ideas, quote Jesus and explain how practical what your so called better religious groups are doing, remember that whatever Jesus say he lay the foundation so that his followers could follow as in imitate him!
So don't confuse yourself saying what Jesus did not do just because you feel that is what he is suggesting!

So you think all religious groups must use the Bible? This is ignorance.

And please stop dribbling . Let's focus on the main issue.

According to Jesus, who is your neighbor and how did he instruct you to treat them?
Don't reply with your usual, my sister this, my sister that or any unrelated rant because it would only mean that you have been deliberately side stepping questions you have no answer to.

Maximus69:
Gbam!

He only said JW members he knew hardly get involved in criminal activities, but you guys love only your members!

Except for her sister (who is also a member of the same organization) to love and be love by everyone around her!

Ó dámilójú pé eléyìí kàn ñla enu ni, kìí ronú rárá kótó sòrò!

I just saw this now.

Why are you trying so hard to connect two unrelated things?why dragging my sister into everything?is it to guilt trip me or what?
I know of several religious groups whose members are far better behaved than yours.So don't get too excited
I understand your game. Just end it and let's focus on other things if you want to continue talking so I can expose you further

TATIME:
If you want to know how God's holy spirit taught us to apply that quality, ask us. But if you feel you already know how to apply it on your own, then go out there and apply it the way you or those churches teaches.
There are nine qualities of God's holy spirit, PATIENCE is just one of them! Galatians 5:22-23
We learn how to apply all these qualities in our Kingdom Halls, that's why you can see these qualities ONLY in our group NOT in those people you're calling Christians!

You only apply patience in your kingdom Hall. Does this not confirm what I already said that you practice selfish love?

Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm but she still remains your sister and you can still speak well of her despite all these things you're saying now!

For your information, Jesus shun people the most, especially if you are not serious about what he holds so dear!

So if you don't know, know today that Jesus don't get along with people who don't share his opinion!

He publicly told people that Mary(his mother) and his brothers aren't his real mother and brothers as long as they don't subscribe to his opinion! Matthew 12:46-49

He referred to gentiles who never knew God's standards as "DOGS"! Mark 7:27-28

He will never pray for or with you if you don't subscribe to his teachings! John 17:8-9

You've been thoroughly misinformed my friend, the real Jesus of Nazareth is not as loose in friendship as you think. The only thing he does is using his God's given power to cure and raise dead people, but when it comes to friendship Jesus is the most selective person in all history.

So it's because Jehovah's Witnesses are strictly following his pattern that all those who thought they believe in Jesus, but knew nothing about him hate the way we do things! Matthew 10:22; John 17:14

But on the other hand, their conscience is telling them "this people are good, only that they've separated themselves from us" 2Corinthians 6:17

I am not misinformed. I know more about your group than you can ever imagine.
You can't use words or wrong Bible interpretation to confuse me.
Jesus asked you to demonstrate love just like the good Samaritan and not to avoid those who disagree with you.He never asked you to emulate how he treated his parents and religious leaders who opposed him.The instruction was love your neighbor as yourself.Does your organization practice this?
Groups and individuas will always find things in the Bible to support thier personal agenda. There are Bible verses people interpret to support the smoking of weed,the practice of witchcraft,the killing of thier enemies and even internet fraud.
Any religious group that practice selfish love is a cult. God has nothing to do with it

TATIME:
Before you type, try to think first!

Are you saying your own blood sister no more love you (apart from members of her religion) yet you spoke well of her?

Well behaved and loving others are not synonymous.
What I really meant is that your group practice selfish love which is contrary to the teachings of Jesus.you don't love your neighbors as yourself.you shun whoever disagrees with you and withdraw your love
The last time I had an argument with my sister concerning blood transfusion,she stopped calling me for more than two months.Thats not the first time.
One of the qualities of love as it's contained in the Bible is patience .You lack this

TATIME:
To oju ba fara bale a ri imu!

Now you're getting the message, they were one and all intimidated by the OP.

What pained them most is that you add insult to their injury, how can a whole you (Maximus69) one of Jehovah's Witnesses the group they knew and highly respected as best Bible students turned down the challenge instead of helping them to defend their FAITH against the OP!
Is this not the same triplechoice who said so many good things about Jehovah's Witnesses?
If he truly believe in Jesus, what Church is his own that he has failed to mention all this while? Why has he remained silent as if he has nothing to do with Jesus? Instead he started praising a religious group? Only to come back and say "they believe their the best" whereas he himself has said it with his own mouth!

I never said many good things about your group .I only said Jw members I know hardly get involved in criminal activities. And let me bust your bubble. The real reason for your behavior is the fear of shunning. This fear is why you obey instructions and not because of the nonsense they teach you there.
JW best Bible students? And you lack love for your neighbors except your members? You guys are living inside your head and you don't know this
Not much you know about me whether I am a Christian, atheist ,non religious or what position I hold but you and"high thinking" know it all Maximu69 want me to engage the op.Does this not further confirm that you two are delusional?

Maximus69:
Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!

Àrà òní tán lórí ilè~Wonders shall never end!

So you too believe Jesus is real but kept mute all these while, even when the OP threw a challenge to all those who claims to believe in Jesus!

Where is FOLYKAZE o?

Come and see those who are claiming Jesus is real o!

I came purposely trailing LordReed because i didn't feel any need to waste a second on someone demanding the authenticity of an historical figure whose name has remained relevant for almost 2,000 years in human history!

But you and your cohorts came wagging your tongues at me even when you are of a contrary opinion to the OP!

Sorry my dear, Maximus69 or Jehovah's Witnesses are not the ones you should be looking for to help you defend your FAITH, if truthfully you're of the opinion that Jesus existed, stand up for him and face the OP!

Àwon Òpònú Olódo dede!

When

You made a false accusation without thinking. Instead of owning up, you have resulted to a tirade of abuse .This is the same behavior you have been accusing others of.
Is it not clear now that you're delusional?

Maximus69:
Mentioning you doesn't mean i want to discuss anything with you!

What i said is simple, you claim to be a Christian even though you joined those who despises faith in Jesus to get back at me. I knew you in and out before saying your enemy's enemy automatically become your friend!

Don't forget that both LordReed, FOLYKAZE, triplechoice and Dantedasz all detests the Jesus you claim to be your Lord.

So forget about Maximus69 and concentrate on how to make a defense before all those who are demanding for the reason of your FAITH in Jesus!

But you can deny him anyway because you want to continue trailing Maximus69 for turning you down as his brother in FAITH!

We are Jehovah's Witnesses!

Our brother Elijah stood his ground against 450 adversaries, try to imagine what all those people can be saying against just one man for saying he is not their brother in FAITH!

We are used to whatever you have in mind to say, Jesus said you will say so much hurtful things simply because we've separated ourselves from you.

So if truthfully you are for Jesus, prove it by speaking in support of him in the presence of all these despisers. Maximus69 is already out of your way. Face your warrant!

What is this now? trying to give a dog a bad name?
Where did I destest Jesus? If you cannot provide prove for this , then it would mean that you are pathological liar who has past the point of redemption

Maximus69:
I don't know why you're so upset over this issue. I've dealt with the person i wanted to deal with, now it's over.

Please it's OK let the OP and every other follower continue with OP's mission the historicity and justification thing, after all it wasn't about Maximus or JWs in the first place.

Why is everyone (Churchgoer, Atheist, Babalawo and perhaps freethinker) so worried about Maximus when i'm not the topic of the thread?

An adult should take responsibility for his actions. You not willing to do this. I wonder how any sensible young man can look up to you when you continue to behave the way you have behaving on this thread.

Tatime seem to be your protege and your influence on him is very obvious

LordReed:
Foolish old goat with the fake humility. See yasef. SMH.

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On Sunday, with this same fake humility, he will go about looking for innocents to preach(deceive) to
. Because my sister is a witness , I should stop using my head and support him when he is not making any sense

Maximus69:
See emotion o!

Now age also matters as JWs believe they know it all shey?

Always accusing people of the same thing you're much guilty of

MuttleyLaff:
triplechoice's sister has more sense and intelligence than both you and your bossman TATIME combined together.

Trust you to go for low hanging fruit triplechoice' sister. Shame on you. Mtcheew.

He does not know anything about Google translate and yet he claims to be a former military intelligence officer

Maximus69:
You said she's JW nah!

Abi you too also have the Google/Internet syndrome?

My sister and the JW I know don't behave like you in anyway.

Maximus69:
So far your JW sister is not a clown it's OK.

We all have different gifts!

Shame on you. what concerns my sister with this

You really should be ashamed of yourself .you are not acting your age at all

Oh my God! Tatime and maximus 69 are complete clowns
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smat101:
If you people can also be a free thinker, you will see that most of his analogy are not factual... Just like he talked about someone born into a poor family, and poverty is stamped in his subconscious mind...
What will then talk about rich men kids that had everything they needed right from child hood, even schooled abroad, never knew the feeling of hunger YET are never successful in anything in life apart from spending their father's money...
Think Friends

It's clear now that you did not take your time to read the op"s presentations or you did but failed to understand anything. The answer to your question is there on this thread but your biases has prevented you from seeing it.

Please drop your biases and read again

damentalist:
I swear baba, I will just ignore from now on. If i realize someone does not have basic understanding of the things I am talking about, and has no desire to truly learn, I will just ignore. Dem go tire person on top of help pesin wan give.

You don't need to ignore. it maybe your mission is to help such people.

Some of them are actually looking for help but they don't know it
I can see that one of them is strongly tied to the Armoc egregore and is unconsciously looking for help please by patient

smat101:
damentalist is a free thinker yet you his follower is not...
think for your self onlyforchrist. you're been initiated, the more he gets disciples that performs those ritual continuously, the stronger his egregore becomes... I've read through every single post of Afromentalist on nairaland, Some were insightful I must say... but you his followers has to be wise and think for yourself or at least use google...

know this :As a child I grew up so innocently that I though everyone was kind and loving until I became and adult...No one finds a gold mine and runs to the public and announce it unless he needs a hand
be wise

No one can initiate you into something without your consent. If it were to happen at all without you realising what you are into, it will not last.
The reason for this is because your higherself which is the God in you, screens whatever activity you are engaged in and guide and send warnings if you should go ahead or discontinue with it .If you come to harm or get initiated into something without your consent,it's because you choose to ignore it's guidance But if the connection is strong no harm can come to you and when you choose to ignore it,it will find a way to pull you out of it I have several experiences that I can share to prove this

This is the truth my friend. Please stop spreading fear.

FOLYKAZE:
@triplechoice The whole jw organisation are deluded. One of their publications, MANKIND SEARCH FOR GOD, posit that the evidence for the global flooding and noah ark is the multiple flooding myth, and their members believe it to the last letter. How could a reasonable person authenticate historicity of a story with multiple fables?

The only thing I read is the awake magazine The few times I tried to read their other publications were disappointing . It's difficult for me to accept what they contain.

As for personal behavior,I really can't say much but one thing I know is that the members hardly get themselves involved in criminal activities .Outside this country ? don't know
The one thing that puts me off is thier arrogance. They believe that no one outside thier group knows the truth

FOLYKAZE:
Hahahaha

He thought, never too sure, that Maximus69 could never attempt to respond to the OP, not because generally, jw do not of the duty of answering questions, but Max failed to provide the rightful and needed answer.

It all false flag, Max failed both in providing the needed evidences required or convincing anyone that Jesus existed. He rather got himself, jw organisation and the faith exposed and ridiculed. And all he can do is save face and lie with both sides of his mouth, denying he attempted engaging the OP.

I am still shocked about the denial. I never expected this from him and even when all the evidences of his attempts are still there on this thread.

Now, this Tatime is trying to turn everything into what I am yet to understand inspite of the fact that I have made my intentions clear to him

And one final thing ,the JW I know offline don't act like the one's here. These group here are quick to cast aspersion, use abusive language and vieled insults once you don't agree with them

TATIME:
Jehovah's Witnesses don't need that!
Perhaps you've forgotten what you typed about Jehovah's Witnesses lifestyles!
So you yourself have made that advertisement already, our activities and lifestyles in your neighborhood have made you spoken for us. 1Perter 2:12
Though you tried to hide your feeling now IT'S TOO LATE!

My comments about your group is based on my own personal experiences alone and I still stand by it. My younger sister is a witness and have friends who you witnesses too . Others may have their own contrary opinion about your group based on their own experiences.

But the issue at hand has nothing whatsoever to with that . Maximus69 is no more interested in discussing the op but the benefits of his group the reason I asked he opens a thread for that and I will participate by mentioning some of that good things I know about your group. .Then others can also have the opportunity to say whatever they have to say too.

Instead of this display of emotions, why don't you take your time to read my previous reply , analyze it and respond appropriately

TATIME:
I think he said it's LordReed he was chatting with!

It's after he has discovered that Folykaze is the owner of the thread and gotten the purpose of the thread that he told Folykaze he didn't come for him or interested in the topic!

You think? It means you are not sure .Please go through the thread to be sure that maximum69 never attempted to respond to the op And when you do, I would like to what you will now think.

Incase you have forgotten,advise maximum69 to open a thread on the benefits of belonging to JW organizations.It seems he is more interested in that

damentalist:
Hello guys,

I have been banned by the nairaland bots for whatever reason. I will be back in the 21st.

I hope you guys are doing well.

I will add an accompanying exercise today to prepare us for the real game changer.
Don't bother about that religious crusader. Does he know me in real life? What makes him believe I am not one of those he mentioned?

Truth is, I am a successful businessman that came from a poor background and was rejected by the parents. I had to change the course of my life.

More money is not necessarily more happiness and there is a threshold I do not necessarily wish to cross.

I have been wondering what has happened.

I am doing good.

TATIME:
Maximus i think you've disturbed him enough with all this teasing, and i don't think he's happy about the way you keep posting him without dancing to his tune.
So please let it go, ok?

If Pa Maximus does not want to dance to Folykaze"s tune why did he jump to the center of the stage and pretending he wants to dance? If he does not like the tune why responding at all?

You just came in to throw dust in people's eyes.The aim of the op is clear .it has nothing to do with what you are benefiting from your religious affiliation

Pa Maximus has been dancing to a different tune .If he is only interested in discussing what he feels he has been benefiting from his religious affiliation, tell him to open a thread for that and not what you're trying to do now.

If you practice any religion and you think it has made you a better person, then you have the choice to stick with it

Trying to prove that your religion is superior or the only true one is just beating the air because all religion are the same the only difference is what is contained in their various religious text .it's indoctrination and nothing more that makes you believe yours is superior
Those who live in glass house should not throw stones

Afromentalist:
Hello Guys,

It is time for practice. After giving you guys enough time to ponder on what we have seen of recent, and to start asking questions, it is important that we start practicing.

- This here should be approached as a scientific experiment, not a religious experience. Your attitude should be that of curiosity, not that of blind faith. Curiosity means to be open enough to try it for yourself and see the results, but remain critical to avoid confirmation bias.

- As a scientific experiment, It is highly encouraged to keep a record of your progress. Write down each day you perform the required exercices. Write down how you felt, and what you experienced. Write down what is unusual during the course of the day. Write down your doubts, your expectations, your state of mind. At the end of the it all, you can be able to better appraise the whole process.

- I do not guarantee anything to anyone. If you are unsatisfied, feel free to drop it and move to whatever you feel will work better for you. You are even free to seel your house and give to those crooks calling themselves pastors, instead of taking back your fate in your hands. It is ultimately your own choice.

- Be patient and open enough. If you are 25 years old, chances are you have been programmed into your situation for at least 20 years. Do not expect to deprogram yourself in 20 seconds. Remember, Consistency and Repetition are key. In my experience, the first results are seen after about 21 days, and more drastic results are clearly seen after 3 months.

- The greatest power of a Mentalist is the Willforce. Your will is your only and last resort against fate. Show my the power of your will, I will show you, your destiny. Don't start with us, if you are not ready to put in at least 3 months of exercising everyday UNFAILINGLY. If you have doubts, don't start. If you start and don't continue at least 3 months, it will be 10 times more difficult for you the next time. You have been warned. A word is enough for a Mentalist.

- No money, no sacrifice, no allegiance to any god or doctrine is required.

- I would want everyone willing to embark on the journey to report in short words in this here thread. The report must not be detailed, but will serve as an encouragement for myself and others. At some point, if and when I will be willing to dwelve into deeper things, I will personally contact those who have shown a constant dedication. You can always use an alternate account for this purpose, if you do not want your main moniker to be exposed.

If everyone agrees on those terms, we shall proceed. Let me hear from you.

I am open to try anythingI that is safe and works for my highest good But one question. is it something that can practiced anywhere and at anytime you choose? The nature of my job require I travel Sometimes

elated177:
Just answer the questions and quit with the ranting and rambling?

But I have answered you long ago.
Now , you are the one who has been rambling because you are yet to show where this conversation is heading to.
Sorry, I already discontinued the conversation and wouldn't be replying you anymore
Goodday

elated177:
Why are your heart and mind filled with so much bile? Is this your way of projecting evil to people? You have failed woefully.

Define religion? What does it mean to be religious?

Stop insulting yourself thinking that you are insulting me.

I can see that your ignorance is a huge handicap for you
You asked q simple question at the beginning and I have long replied you If my reply is not acceptable to you what do you want me to do? .

Whether I like it or not I should accept a position which I do not subscribe to? Is that not bullying on your part?
Now ,I am the evil one whereas you are the one who is actually trying to project evil towards me something you are very good at by the evidence of your threads on this board

I don't have patience with religious fundamentalists. Those who do not agree to your extreme views, you label them evil inorder to destroy them. This is what you're starting to do now. But of course you know you have failed hence your frustration..

Afromentalist:
With respect to what you said concerning Egregores,

Yes you are correct. I have never had it complicated to disconnect to an egregore because I have never been strongly initiated into a secret society, despite the many offers and temptations I found on my path. And the reason is simple: I always knew that true development requires independence and freedom. Secret societies that require all kinds of commitments and secrets give room for a lot of manipulation and ultimately I have always been convinced in the long run it is just not worth it. I intend to open a thread on this topic in the future, like I have previously indicated, and the title shall be: Secret societies, when and why to join them, why and how to leave them. or something like that.

Now I have seen cases of people who suffered the problems you outlined in your post. People running mad, or rushing to churches/alfas/gurus to find freedom. I have had to manage one case myself.

Like I said in my previous post, it always depends on the degree of implication in that particular egregore, because eventually the law of equity must be respected. To he much is given, much is expected. If you enjoy great advantages from a particular egregore, you don't expect to leave it and go scott free. If you sign a blood pact within a secret society, you don't expect to face the same issues as he that just got baptised into a church.

The most common approach to find total freedom in case of serious implication is usually to find an equivalent powerful egregore to join. That's why it is not senseless for people to run away from say Amorc and join a praying Church. If they succeed to completely break off the Amorc egregore, they can now later, break free from the church (which is easier to achieve). So yeah it is not necessarily jumping from frying pan to fire.

Still, in all cases, the real thing is to awaken the sleeping God in you. When the God in you awakes, there is no egregore that can match him. People suffer because they ignore who they are. The greatest power in the universe in sleeping, dormant within us.

Well ,I will keep my fingers crossed untill you begin the practicals.

Concerning the egrregore,I think we should postpone the discussion to the time when you can fully devote attention to it.There are other complex issues which if brought in now, may take away our attention unnecessary from the main thing.
Thanks for your response.