₦airaland Forum

Afam4eva: Lol..and that is all you have to say. I'll suggest you don't quote me if you can't aspire to be on the same level intellectually with me. All you do is going around looking for English grammar to correct instead of treating the issue at hand.

Afam take it easy with ilugun boy. Daft people are also welcome on nairaland since there is no e-filter to remove people like him (ilugunboy) from having access to the internet.

Do not fall for their cheap blackmail.

Layolaw: no matter what, to me iyabo is orginal omo ale

No, she is a photocopy of her father, she is not a bastard. Are you blind to see?

So her saying the truth has made her become a bastard? Na wa for you ooo.

Seun: When Nigerian journalists want to make you look bad, they may add grammatical errors to your quotes. They've done it to me before.

I am happy to quote our 'don jazzy'. I equally appluade nairaland moderators for not hidding pple's opinions\post at this period.

Nairaland is improving.

Sheik Gumi has really disappointed sane minds if he actually wrote\said this. When has it become a crime for a child to advice an evil father to amend his ways? We dont need to hide under the umbrella of religion to condone evil.

gratiaeo: After 2015 Election Headlines will go as follow;

•Don't celebrate yet, APC tells Goodluck (PDP) (Leadership)

•Concede defeat, Goodluck urges APC (Punch)

•APC Cries out, says election was rigged (daily sun)

•APC demands Vote recount. (Vanguard)

•No evidence of manipulation (NTA news)

•This is the same way I was robbed in 2003, 2007 and 2011 - Buhari. (Nation Newspaper & Daily Trust)

•Election results for Kanu, Rivers awaited (Channels)

•Trucks with suspected ballot papers crosses into Anambra from Kogi (Sahara Reporters). •There will be violence if we loose; APC declares
(Hope For Nigeria)

•APC registrators are opportunists - Go back to school and biz (AIT)

•OBAMA congratulates Goodluck - charges him to live up to expectations (NTA)

•I will not accept result APC tells PDP (STV)

•APC, others head to Election Petition Tribunal (Channels TV)
•Election was free and fair says Jega (NTA)

•The people behind Goodluck's victory: True story uncovered...(Vanguard)

•There is no perfect election in the world -OBJ. -(Guardian) =

Tinubu congratulates Goodluck....(Aljazera)

•••••Naija I hail thee!!!•••••

Are you TB Joshua's younger brother?

Onlytruth: He did it because the woman is a Christian woman with western education. I bet you that if she were a Hajia from the North, he won't dare such nonsense.
Nigeria is a place were an illiterate wants to teach a professor; and the illiterate is usually a Muslim.

Guy i gbadun you, i knw some pple are hurt by ur statement (ur mentioning muslims), you are very right in all you said. If ngozi okonjo were to be a muslim or hausa\fulani woman, that senator would have treated her with respect. The fact remains that the hausa\fulani\yoruba have no respect for Igbo women except the ones they take for girl-friends, wife, mistress. Or the ones they will easily sleep with.

I watched the panel sitting yesterday and its quite embarassing the way the malam was talking to the woman. I thank God for the maturity Ngozi dispalyed.

What amazed me most is that my Yoruba e-friends said they (Yoruba pple) are very respectful, that the letter was written by Reuben Abati or Doyin Okupe. But i thank God that there hypocrisy had been constantly exposed both in the Nigeria society and here on nairaland.

Iyabo Obasanjo is a God-sent at this time in Nigeria when the father is trying to ignite a fire that he will never be able to put out as soon as it starts 'blazing'. If only all Yorubas can have this gut and courage like Iyabo, this country wil be a better place.

We should not allow this old men that have put this country into this mess and underdelopment, to keep manipulating our future and destiny. In 5 to 10 year time they will all be gone (IBB, OBJ, Danjuma, Atiku, Clarke, madueke, etc.). They all have same thin in common, evil, destruction and wickedness. We should not allow them use their injury time on mother earth to injure we the youth of this country.

Ladybianca: now
dat all doubts has bn cleared abt who authored d letter......you all knw now dat iyabo wrote dat letter, xo where re dos
ofe nmanu peeps claiming a yoruba lady can not insult ha fad a
publicly......

No, Yoruba people are respectful and cultured. Gbenga Obasanjo was very respectful, he did not openly accused his father of sleeping with his wife. Iyabo obasanjo is also very respectful, she cannot write such a letter to her saintly father.

Yoruba people are saints.

babaolofin: Dear All, only fools will believe such letter emanates from Iyabo. The only thing I noticed from Iyabo reaction to the letter is the mentioning of the Ijaw Woman's character. With the little career I have in the non civilian life and my present civilian life and my interactions with various tribal groups in Nigeria and beyond, an average Ijaw woman has a good strength of character and that reflects in their children (male & female). Yorubas also have a very good strength of character.

I have sympathy for Jonathan. IBB, Abdulsalami, Buhari, Gowon and other past leaders, radicals and statesmen are watching events. Those (group or tribe) whom Jonathan considers as the strength or pillar of his government are very weak and they may not know the strength of what they are doing or they have soon forgotten history. Abati and Doyin Okupe have a duty to resign from this government for this kind of fake letter designed to destroy the reputation built over the years even at the point of death. Fortunately, Dr. Okupe and I are from the same Ijebu Remo division of Ogun State. The late Chief Okupe, the founder of the first private bank in Nigeria, as I was told by my grand father was a man of principle and character. I have come to develop interest in Abati during his days in Patito's gang - a TV program founded by an intellectual - Dr. Pat Utomi. Both Abati and Okupe should know from Yoruba tradition that a daughter cannot write such letter to her father particularly a loving daughter and the closest child to her father. Even as student, Iyabo has represented her father on many occasions. She has good education both locally and abroad, she was made a commissioner in my state (Ogun) on the influence of her father, later, she was given a senatorial seat in the same state out of the influence of her daddy. Ogun State, an elite state of men of no easy means both financially and educationally, getting an appointment at a young age must have been under the influence and support of men that have paid their dues.

A daughter that has benefited from his father and also suffered for his father cannot write such letter. It is not in our character. Remember how she was humiliated because of =N=10M assistance her committee received as the chairman, senate committee of health. House of Rep and Senate returned the Money, the minister of health, Prof. Adenike Grange (Yoruba) was humiliated out of office despite her long contribution to the development of health sector in Nigeria. Obasanjo Relieved Mrs. Bolaji Osomo of her Ministerial job as the Minister of Housing without any querry for non transparent sales of government houses in Lagos to some Top PDP members. She wept, Prof Grange also wept. I remember, how Bola Onagoruwa was sacked from BPE for committing no offence. No DG of BPE can approve or recommend the sale of any government share in any corporation in Nigeria, except if I don't understand the politics again from Military to the present civilian regime. House recommendation on SEC remains because she was not from South West.

The bullet proof cars and deals of oil theft are there for people to see. Nobody can do anything. It is their turn to loot the wealth of the Nation. I wish them well.

To those feeble minded Nigerians on Nairaland commenting on political matters they know nothing or very little about, I wish them well. They are not Ijaws. They are from a particular section of the country.

The fabricated open letter from Iyabo, can never be the work of Abati or Okupe, rather from propaganda experts. They work very well during Abacha regime. They are experts 419 and drug barons. The author of the letter should be investigated.

This post cannot and does not
exononerate OBJ of all the crimes listed in
the letter. Is Gbenga Obasanjo also
disrespectful for openly accusing
Obasanjo of sleeping with his wife and
doubting the paternity of his 'children'? What about his criminal acquisition of otta farm while the farm was originally conceived and finance with FG money? What is the Yoruba definition of respect?
Not saying the truth or criticing your
father\elder even if they are demons or
criminals? I see.
You and I know that the contents of the
letter is 100% true, so your damage control effort is irrelevant. Obasanjo is
one of the problems affecting this
country. Say the truth for once and stop
behaving like a typical Yorubaman.
www.vanguardngr.com/2013/12/iyabo-right-thing-fasoranti-afenifere-leader/

babaolofin: Dear All, only fools will believe such letter emanates from Iyabo. The only thing I noticed from Iyabo reaction to the letter is the mentioning of the Ijaw Woman's character. With the little career I have in the non civilian life and my present civilian life and my interactions with various tribal groups in Nigeria and beyond, an average Ijaw woman has a good strength of character and that reflects in their children (male & female). Yorubas also have a very good strength of character.

I have sympathy for Jonathan. IBB, Abdulsalami, Buhari, Gowon and other past leaders, radicals and statesmen are watching events. Those (group or tribe) whom Jonathan considers as the strength or pillar of his government are very weak and they may not know the strength of what they are doing or they have soon forgotten history. Abati and Doyin Okupe have a duty to resign from this government for this kind of fake letter designed to destroy the reputation built over the years even at the point of death. Fortunately, Dr. Okupe and I are from the same Ijebu Remo division of Ogun State. The late Chief Okupe, the founder of the first private bank in Nigeria, as I was told by my grand father was a man of principle and character. I have come to develop interest in Abati during his days in Patito's gang - a TV program founded by an intellectual - Dr. Pat Utomi. Both Abati and Okupe should know from Yoruba tradition that a daughter cannot write such letter to her father particularly a loving daughter and the closest child to her father. Even as student, Iyabo has represented her father on many occasions. She has good education both locally and abroad, she was made a commissioner in my state (Ogun) on the influence of her father, later, she was given a senatorial seat in the same state out of the influence of her daddy. Ogun State, an elite state of men of no easy means both financially and educationally, getting an appointment at a young age must have been under the influence and support of men that have paid their dues.

A daughter that has benefited from his father and also suffered for his father cannot write such letter. It is not in our character. Remember how she was humiliated because of =N=10M assistance her committee received as the chairman, senate committee of health. House of Rep and Senate returned the Money, the minister of health, Prof. Adenike Grange (Yoruba) was humiliated out of office despite her long contribution to the development of health sector in Nigeria. Obasanjo Relieved Mrs. Bolaji Osomo of her Ministerial job as the Minister of Housing without any querry for non transparent sales of government houses in Lagos to some Top PDP members. She wept, Prof Grange also wept. I remember, how Bola Onagoruwa was sacked from BPE for committing no offence. No DG of BPE can approve or recommend the sale of any government share in any corporation in Nigeria, except if I don't understand the politics again from Military to the present civilian regime. House recommendation on SEC remains because she was not from South West.

The bullet proof cars and deals of oil theft are there for people to see. Nobody can do anything. It is their turn to loot the wealth of the Nation. I wish them well.

To those feeble minded Nigerians on Nairaland commenting on political matters they know nothing or very little about, I wish them well. They are not Ijaws. They are from a particular section of the country.

The fabricated open letter from Iyabo, can never be the work of Abati or Okupe, rather from propaganda experts. They work very well during Abacha regime. They are experts 419 and drug barons. The author of the letter should be investigated.

This post cannot and does not
exononerate OBJ of all the crimes listed in
the letter. Is Gbenga Obasanjo also
disrespectful for openly accusing
Obasanjo of sleeping with his wife and
doubting the paternity of his 'children'? What about his criminal acquisition of otta farm while the farm was originally conceived and finance with FG money? What is the Yoruba definition of respect?
Not saying the truth or criticing your
father\elder even if they are demons or
criminals? I see.
You and I know that the contents of the
letter is 100% true, so your damage control effort is irrelevant. Obasanjo is
one of the problems affecting this
country. Say the truth for once and stop
behaving like a typical Yorubaman.

babaolofin: Dear All, only fools will believe such letter emanates from Iyabo. The only thing I noticed from Iyabo reaction to the letter is the mentioning of the Ijaw Woman's character. With the little career I have in the non civilian life and my present civilian life and my interactions with various tribal groups in Nigeria and beyond, an average Ijaw woman has a good strength of character and that reflects in their children (male & female). Yorubas also have a very good strength of character.

I have sympathy for Jonathan. IBB, Abdulsalami, Buhari, Gowon and other past leaders, radicals and statesmen are watching events. Those (group or tribe) whom Jonathan considers as the strength or pillar of his government are very weak and they may not know the strength of what they are doing or they have soon forgotten history. Abati and Doyin Okupe have a duty to resign from this government for this kind of fake letter designed to destroy the reputation built over the years even at the point of death. Fortunately, Dr. Okupe and I are from the same Ijebu Remo division of Ogun State. The late Chief Okupe, the founder of the first private bank in Nigeria, as I was told by my grand father was a man of principle and character. I have come to develop interest in Abati during his days in Patito's gang - a TV program founded by an intellectual - Dr. Pat Utomi. Both Abati and Okupe should know from Yoruba tradition that a daughter cannot write such letter to her father particularly a loving daughter and the closest child to her father. Even as student, Iyabo has represented her father on many occasions. She has good education both locally and abroad, she was made a commissioner in my state (Ogun) on the influence of her father, later, she was given a senatorial seat in the same state out of the influence of her daddy. Ogun State, an elite state of men of no easy means both financially and educationally, getting an appointment at a young age must have been under the influence and support of men that have paid their dues.

A daughter that has benefited from his father and also suffered for his father cannot write such letter. It is not in our character. Remember how she was humiliated because of =N=10M assistance her committee received as the chairman, senate committee of health. House of Rep and Senate returned the Money, the minister of health, Prof. Adenike Grange (Yoruba) was humiliated out of office despite her long contribution to the development of health sector in Nigeria. Obasanjo Relieved Mrs. Bolaji Osomo of her Ministerial job as the Minister of Housing without any querry for non transparent sales of government houses in Lagos to some Top PDP members. She wept, Prof Grange also wept. I remember, how Bola Onagoruwa was sacked from BPE for committing no offence. No DG of BPE can approve or recommend the sale of any government share in any corporation in Nigeria, except if I don't understand the politics again from Military to the present civilian regime. House recommendation on SEC remains because she was not from South West.

The bullet proof cars and deals of oil theft are there for people to see. Nobody can do anything. It is their turn to loot the wealth of the Nation. I wish them well.

To those feeble minded Nigerians on Nairaland commenting on political matters they know nothing or very little about, I wish them well. They are not Ijaws. They are from a particular section of the country.

The fabricated open letter from Iyabo, can never be the work of Abati or Okupe, rather from propaganda experts. They work very well during Abacha regime. They are experts 419 and drug barons. The author of the letter should be investigated.

This post cannot and does not exononerate OBJ of all the crimes listed in the letter. Is Gbenga Obasanjo also disrespectful for openly accusing Obasanjo of sleeping with his wife and doubting the paternity of his 'children'? What is the Yoruba definition of respect? Not saying the truth or criticing your father\elder even if they are demons or criminals? I see.

You and I know that the contents of the letter is 100% true, so your damage control effort is irrelevant. Obasanjo is one of the problems affecting this country. Say the truth for once and stop behaving like a typical Yorubaman.

DerideGull: Nigerians should pay little attention to whether Iyobo Obasanjo wrote the alleged letter or not. They should focus on the message of the letter. Everything said in the letter or even did not say is unquestionably true.

The same folks that informed us to focus and deliberate on the contents of alleged OBJ’s letter to GEJ instead of the messenger are now telling us to forget the alleged letter from Iyob to her father. Certain section of Nigeria is known for double-talk and the presence of letters allegedly from the Obasanjos has reconfirmed a strait we already know about the people.

That is the irony, the e-APCs asked us not to attack obasanjo but that GEJ should answer the 'query' obasanjo gave him. And now they are asking us to ignore iyabo's letter.


So funny.

obayaya: the same Yoruba youths that striped a Chief naked..

tell me something else

No na yoruba pple get respect pass that is why Gbenga obasanjo publicly accused his father of sleeping with his wife, that is why soyinka was pubicly insulting a sitting head of state while his townsmen were hailing him for a job well done, that is why they strip their chief naked on broad day light.

Yes, na Yoruba get respect pass.

king94: Don't be tribalistic. We don't 'betray' people. We only tell them d bitter truth.

Then Obasanjo's son (for sleeping with his wife) and now the daughter (for causing national problems) are saying the truth.

I may not be 100% sure, but im 95% certain that the said letter might have come from his daughter. If his son (obasanjo's) can accuse him of sleeping with his wife, then why wont anyone believe the letter comes from the daughter, especially when vanguard, a national daily newspaper aired the news.

One thing i hav come to realize overtime is that an average yoruba is tracheruos. They will betray you whether you are their father, brother, sister, compatriot (hausa or igbo), it doesnt matter. It is genetic.

So i am not surprised at all. Im sorry if i hurt my yoruba friends on nairaland but i hav to say what i knw over years of interraction with variios ethnic groups in naija.

Afam4eva: I think Jonathan is ready to face humiliation. I think he likes being humiliated.

Has he been humiliated before? I used to like some of your post but this very one is out of reason.

TribalEAST: Just because he wrote a letter, you igbos have sorted to digging up past and forgotten issues. Tell gej to prosecute stella first.

I cant imagine ur obsession with the Igbos. How do you knw that this post was pasted by an Igbo person?

You must be sick upstairs!

It seems the north and southwest are
bent on bringing down the govt of
Jonathan at all cost. I can see the old
alliance coming together again to protect
their interest and ensure that their spoils
of war, since 1970, is never taken away from them by the real owners.

It seems the north and southwest are
bent on bringing down the govt of
Jonathan at all cost. I can see the old
alliance coming together again to protect
their interest and ensure that their spoils
of war, since 1970, is never taken away from them by the real owners.

It seems the north and southwest are bent on bringing down the govt of Jonathan at all cost. I can see the old alliance coming together again to protect their interest and ensure that their spoils of war, since 1970, is never taken away from them by the real owners.

aryzgreat: 3 outward signs to watch out for to spot out an extremist muslim:

1. Black spot on d fore head

2 jumper or three-quarter trouser

3 wierd bushy beards.

If u notice 2 out of this 3 on any muslim, ur survival instinct shud be at alert immediately.

Good info. Note taken.

cashkid18: yero boys ar nt smilin,they wil soon blame d ibos

It seems the yero boiz are catching up vry fast in this illicit trade--Kidnapping.

But y kill the poor man? Occupational hazard indeed.

saly kely: Because you hate Islam so you prefer the word Arab. probably you need some education. but the problem i have with nigerian christians is the fact that they will never research about Islam. their bigotry and prejudice is just too much. go to BBC, CNN and other european media and books they all made reference to Islam as the source and inspiration of these innovations. in the History of the world you would come accross the word DARK AGE that word is used interchangeably with the word CHRISTIAN ERA because this was the time the papacy held the world in darkness with its dogma.
let me quote the president of the United State himself Barack Obama on June 4th 2009 " [b]As a student of history, I also know civilization's debt to Islam. It was Islam – at places like Al-Azhar University – that carried the light of learning through so many centuries, paving the way for Europe's Renaissance and Enlightenment. It was innovation in Muslim communities that developed the order of algebra; our magnetic compass and tools of navigation; our mastery of pens and printing; our understanding of how disease spreads and how it can be healed. Islamic culture has given us majestic arches and soaring spires; timeless poetry and cherished music; elegant calligraphy and places of peaceful contemplation. And throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.
I know, too, that Islam has always been a part of America's story. The first nation to recognize my country was Morocco. In signing the Treaty of Tripoli in 1796, our second President John Adams wrote, "The United States has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Muslims." [/b] http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/04/us/politics/04obama.text.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

I hope u wont come here tomorrow say BBC, CNN, ALJAZEERA ech hate Islam.

FYI some of the inventions, such as music, is never invented. Music is never an invention cos human being, even immediately after birth, understands the tone of music. I can conveniently say music originates frm africa (do ur research).

So kool down. The present problems the modern world has is synonymous to Islam.

I think the topic should have been: Arab invention that shape the world.

I dont think inventions has anything to do with religion, but science. Arabs\Persians are pioneer in science and maths. But they have slept off, and may never catch up with modern science and technology.

eaglechild: Well Rochas is busy raaping Imo state.
His major projects for the past three years are poorly built roundabouts.
Thanks to APC.

My brother u get bad mouth. Lolllll

berem: I can't just stop laughing....

Congrats to APGA, the ony Igbo party.

TroGunn: Christ is no doubt God's messenger - he does what God commands him to do.

John 12:49 "I don't speak on my own authority. The Father who sent me has commanded me what to say and how to say it".

Malachi 3:1 ""Behold, I send my messenger, and he will prepare the way before me; and the Lord, whom you seek, will suddenly come to his temple; and the messenger of the covenant, whom you desire, behold, he comes!" says Yahweh of Armies". WEB

However, Christ towers above angels ( meaning "messengers" ).

Hebrews 1: 4 "This shows that the Son is far greater than the angels, just as the name God gave him is greater than their names".

Christ commands angels and he's associated with the term the Archangel (Chief or Commander of Angels).

1 Theses 4:16 "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first":

(Feel free to refer to this thread and others where Archangel was discussed deeply - https://www.nairaland.com/1446860/archangel-michael-jesus-christ/22)

In terms of nature, Jehovah, resurrected Christ and angels are all spirit beings. In terms of hierarchy in heaven, Jehovah is highest, Christ follows and then angels. Christ and angels obey Jehovah.

(Note that humans who go to heaven to rule with Christ in heaven will also be above angels - 1Cor6:3).

Once you cut out bias/traditions and follow the scriptures, it's pretty simple to grasp.

I never expected u to post this long post. I short what u r saying is that Jesus is an angel. Read the first book of Hebrew again and again and again, u will discover that many distinctions were made between angels and Jesus. Jesus is never an angel, lets not go there again cos i have talked so much about it.

The issue i will only touch is the point u made in ur earlier post where u said Jesus is the firstborn of all creations. I will respond to ur post, just hold.