₦airaland Forum

IMAliyu:
Hmm..
I'm speechless.

If this is not handled delicately it will blow up in the face of everyone.

I doubt there can be peace anywhere Islam takes root. I hope the peace the Igbo people have enjoyed for over 2000 years (except the Nigeria civil war) will not be compromised by the entry of an aggressive political Islam. The Igbo people have suffered too much and Islam will SURELY compound the many problems in the region.

Civilization is never conquered from without except it has been weakened from within.

Empiree:
Fact still remains it is individual thing. No Muslim is responsible for how a Muslim reacts to a situation. We are not homogeneous people. Everyone stands alone before his Lord individually not as a group. Therefore, for any media to blame action of one person on entire Muslims and Islam is unjust. When Christian guy killed 51 people in New Zealand did you hear them blame it on Christianity and entire Christian people?. Afterall I don't even believe their story anyways and they are not my priority. This is why I don't understand why africans carry someone else's cross on their head. Same in 2015, you seen Africans on fb changed their profile picture to French flag #supportfrance #prayforparis. Did you see them reciprocate when Nigerians are killed in this endsars protest?.

Until Africans realize they are nothing to French people they will continue to be slaves.

You are lumping two different issues together to muddle things up. The whole world, the global media, the church, etc condemned what happened in Christchurch New Zealand. Why did the guy do what he did? His complained is that there are too many immigrants in New Zealand and committed a heinous act of terror. His action was not driven by religion but a nationalistic worldview. I condemn him and every sane human should condemn what he did.

The beheading in France was religiously-motivated; the killer did that in the name of Islam to protect the honour of the Islamic prophet hence the world called in Islamic terrorism. What other name do you suggest?

Empiree:
As much as I like your inputs sometimes, your last paragraph is a proof that africans have major mental problems as Dr. Arikana Chihombori (former AU Ambassador to US) rightly said. Africans are mentally wounded people as a result of slavery. Until we fight off this madness we will remain in this position forever. Tell me how in the world situation in France is priority for africans, particularly Nigerians?.

Who cares about a bitch beheaded in France while your brothers and sisters were killed by Nigerian govt during endsars protest?. Which has more priority?.

Also did you watch interview by CNN (I think) of a white man about protest in Nigeria?. The man clearly said Black West Africa is not the priority. So why do you think Muslims should take France as their priority?.

Many things coincided in recent weeks and days. They are:

1. mawlid nabi,

2. EndSars protest in Nigeria,

3. terrorism in France where a French was allegedly beheaded.


If Muslims don't make it priority doesn't mean we support the killing. Brother, wake up and stop allowing these clowns use your brain.

As a Muslim, of all the three things I mentioned, putting everything in proper perspective and in good context, my priority is protesters killed in Nigeria followed by mawlud nabi. And the 3rd doesn't even make 3rd on my list because it doesn't fvking concern me.

Why should I care about France when their fellow White man said on national tv that Black killings in Nigeria is irrelevant to them?.

In case you need reference just ask me and I will post the video or you can search for yourself on fb.

Not only that, did you watch another video of a white man delivering message about international relations?. He clearly said that they will never allow Africa to develop or self reliance because if Africa is to manufacture its own products the West will look like third world because "we leave on Africa resources".

So brother, you being African man, why in the world you think a bitch killed in France should be our priority?. All these terrorism you hear up and down are their creation. They have them in handy and are ready to use them when the need arises. Islam is the best business and best enterprise in the world in the last century till this minute.

You either play the game or you will be played. What is going on has nothing to do with Islamic theology. That's just excuse.


Lastly, do you have evidence that a Muslim carried out attack on a teacher or you simply rely on media?.

If you have been paying attention to international politics this should not surprised you. In 2015 same charley hebdo cartoon was published that led to chaos and killings and French election was 2 years away. This killing occured around campaign. Now another election is coming in France in 2yrs, campaign is on again. Islam dominated french media in 2015 election campaign. Islam is dominating again.

So keep allowing them to use your brain. They know what they are doing but Africans don't know what they are doing.

This is what happens when an adult is not ready to accept responsibilities for their actions. You killed, caused chaos and bloodshed because your prophet was insulted but never care about the lives of non-Muslims lost, to Muslims, as a result. And please note that Christianity is more ridiculed in France, by Charlie Hebdo, but nothing happened and no street killings, riot and protest. You cannot visit someone and attempt to impose your lifestyle on him. If you are not comfortable with his lifestyle you are free to leave. Muslims are free to go back to their countries of origin if they cannot abide by French laws.

My take is that Nnamdi Kanu is dead, have been killed by the Nigerian military. However, some forces are using his name and identity to create chaos in Nigeria, especially against the Igbo people. Nnamdi Kanu’s name will keep popping up to blackmail Igbo people for political gain depending on what they want to achieve.

My take is that Nnamdi Kanu is dead, have been killed by the Nigerian military. However, some forces are using his name and identity to create chaos in Nigeria, especially against the Igbo people. Nnamdi Kanu’s name will keep popping up to blackmail Igbo people for political gain depending on what they want to achieve.

BastardWike:
Lol, if they were the ones with the resources, they will not only own it 100% but will ensure that the proceeds are never spent outside their region and they will also rule the country perpetually.

But going forward, Southerners should continue to mount serious pressure on their leaders until they man-up and start behaving like men and not conquered slaves.

The north own the gold in zamfara and also the oil in delta, Bayelsa and rivers. That's how the British structured this country and will continue until the whole south unite.

My take is that Nnamdi Kanu is dead, have been killed by the Nigerian military. However, some forces are using his name and identity to create chaos in Nigeria, especially against the Igbo people. Nnamdi Kanu’s name will keep popping up to blackmail Igbo people for political gain depending on what they want to achieve.

okeyglm:
This monster , that lives in far away London is not done yet with the igbos.

My take is that Nnamdi Kanu is dead, have been killed by the Nigerian military. However, some forces are using his name and identity to create chaos in Nigeria, especially against the Igbo people. Nnamdi Kanu’s name will keep popping up to blackmail Igbo people for political gain depending on what they want to achieve.

Whiteangel1234:
Nwike Ezenwa is an Igbo name meaning

Nwike -- A strong Child

Ezenwa -- the King Child

So Wike Ezenwo is a corruption of an Igbo name !

Wike Ezenwo as a name is an insult to the Igbo people. No Igbo name starts with 'wi' but 'Nw'. Nwanyi (not wayi), Nwankwo (not Wankwo), Nwoke (not woke), Nkwocha (not Kwocha). The Ikwere people are insult to Igbo people and their Igbo ancestors.

The Igbos should allow them be, their brain will reset after the crude oil becomes useless and their past coming back to hunt them for the stupidity and loyalty to the Fulani Caliphate.

It is well

Policemen were killed, buses and houses burnt in Lagos and many other states in Nigeria and the perpetrators were tagged hoodlums and #EndSARS protesters. However the perpetrators were tagged IPOB members in River State in order to unleash mayhem on Igbo people, especially in Obigbo (heart of Igbo). This is what the Nigerian system has reduced Igboman to, a subhuman specie to be exterminated by armed coward Nigeria army.

NigerDeltaRep:
BULLari the 1st was as clueless as BULLari Al ibn WIKEdness Al jubril the 2nd.

No wonder his Hanan said "Buhari is not the problem instead of saying "my father" imagine a MOOSElimb girl call her father by his name?
#NigerDeltaRepublic

She knew that the man on the seat of power is not her father but Jubril al-sudani. She is correct.

advocatejare:
You're right

The so called revelation on how to recite the call to prayer was revealed to someone else not even Muhammad.


If it was a honorable job why didn't the person who received the revelation take up the job, why give it to a black slave :


It was narrated from Salim, from his father, that:
The Prophet consulted the people as to how he could call them to the prayer. They suggested a horn, but he disliked that because of the Jews (because the Jews used a horn). Then they suggested a bell but he disliked that because of the Christians (because the Christians used a bell). Then that night the call to the prayer was shown in a dream to a man among the Ansar whose name was 'Abdullah bin Zaid, and to 'Umar bin Khattab. The Ansari man came to the Messenger of Allah at night, and the Messenger of Allah commanded Bilal to give the call to the prayer. (Da'if)Zuhri said: "Bilal added the phrase "As-salatu khairum minan-nawm (the prayer is better than sleep)" to the call for the morning prayer, and the Messenger of Allah approved of that." 'Umar said: "O Messenger of Allah, I saw the same as he did, but he beat me to it."
- : Sunan Ibn Majah 707

Islam is a joke mhen! Are you sure this is not a 'weak and fabricated' hadith?

advocatejare:
Bilal was the slave only worthy of doing the work meant for bells, it wasn't in anyway a honorable job for him, it was because Muhammad didn't want to use bell to announce prayer time that was why he ORDERED Bilal the Blackman to the the work of a bell

Narrated Anas:
The people mentioned the fire and the bell (as means proposed for announcing the time of prayer) and by such a suggestion they referred to the Jews and the Christians. But Bilal was ordered, "Pronounce the words of the Adhan (i.e. call for the prayer) twice and the Iqama once only."
Sahih Bukhari 4:55:663

That's why I called him Mohammed's rooster crow. He was nevertheless a house Nigga who usually hang aroung mohammed and his sahabas. In Islam, it is a great privilege for a black slave to hang around mohammed and his sahabas. Black slaves are meant to be doing the dirtiest of the jobs for their arab slave masters.

The arabs always use house nigga Bilal to market Islam to the black people and the blacks will not even see the insult being shoved on their throat.

Bilal was mohammed's time keeper and cock crow anytime he want to do a call to prayer. Bilal is the islamic house negro, who instead of doing dirty jobs like working at the mill, doing farm work, singing for his slave master, etc, hang around mohammed and his sahabas and doing light jobs. The buttom-line remains that he was among the numerous black slaves mohammed owned and used for his day to day works.

The arabs now want to present Bilal in a positive light as if they are doing black people favour by enslaving Bilal. Nonsense.

motayoayinde:
THANKS BRO.
HERE ARE MORE:

ISLAM IS THE STRICTEST MONOTHEIST RELIGION ON EARTH, STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE WORSHIP OR VENERATION OF ANYONE OR ANYTHING EXCEPT THE ONE TRUE GOD, ALLAH.

MAKKAH IS THE SPIRITUAL HOME OF ALL MUSLIMS AROUND THE WORLD.

MAKKAH HOSTS THE LARGEST ANNUAL PILGRIMAGE ON EARTH. THE HAJJ.

THE ACTIVITIES OF HAJJ ARE TO COMMEMORATE THE LIFE OF THE MONOTHEIST PATRIARCH, PROPHET IBRAHIM AND HIS SON, PROPHET ISMAIL.

THE MOST COMMON GIVEN NAME IN THE WORLD IS "MUHAMMAD"

How can you say Islam is pure monotheism when mohammed is filled with the word 'allah and his messenger'?

How is Islam be pure monotheism when your shahada is for you to believe in allah and mohammed his messenger?

How can Islam be pure monotheism if mohammed said the earth belongs to allah and his messenger?

'...You should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle, and I wish that I should expel you from this land. Those of you who have any property with them should sell it, otherwise they should know that the earth belongs to Allah and His Apostle (and they may have to go away leaving everything behind)'…sahih muslim (Book 019, Number 4363)

yoruba1914:
These northerners with fake monikers are running up and down all over the place. The southerner unity must be giving them sleepless nights

You can't preach southern unity when you are in trouble but do a Nicodemus when you want to betray other southerners. Tinubu's greed has destroyed any form of southern unity.

You didn't invite the military to TVC because TVC doesn't make 50000 naira for you per minute but you invited them to the toll gate because it does. Tinubu's days are numbered, he has been judged and condemned by both men and God for his greed, evil and heartlessness.

OP please chill, your kid is perfectly ok. I couldn't read/write till I was 6, yes 6. And you know what, I was one of the best graduating pupil in my secondary school and I had 2.1 (strong one) in computer and mathematics in my university days. Kids are not even taught how to read and write, in Germany and Austria, till certain age (5 or 6). Have you heard of the German machine and technology?

Stop bothering your mind and disturbing the kid. Slow learners are usually the future geniuses.

SoBright101:
Beware southerners. This is the time to know and understand the true identity of those who cause tribalism on here, they are payed agents, they are neither from east or west. They have more than twenty accounts, they would create tribal topics and make tribal comments with another accounts to cause chaos between southerners. Though, they have no conscience but you can try to educate them or better ignore them. They are easy to identify, use your head brothers. Beware.

The Fulanis are creating multiple accounts on Nairaland, Facebook and Twitter in order to sow the seed of hatred and division among the southerners. We must be wise not to fall into this cheap propaganda and misinformation by the Fulanis.

ashybabs:
Lagos no b Edo

Yes, Lagos tollgate is not is not in Edo state. When will you free yourself from Tinubu's slave chain?

Recent happening in Lagos and around the country has demonstrated that Lagos state needs a new political direction. Can this be the right time for Sanwo-olu to be used, by the gods, to free Lagos state from the economic and political strangulation of Ahmed Bola Tinubu?

The gods and the people may never forgive him if he continue to act a puppet to a greedy oppressor who is never satisfied. Ambode failed to achieve this and this is the right sociopolitical climate for Governor Sanwo-olu to act responsibly by redeeming his personal and political image.

Empiree:
what are you saying?. That this verse is referring to "child marriage"?. You must be sick

Since you longer want to learn I won't be tired teaching you basic Islam. Surah 65:4 talk about waiting period for 3 classes of women before they could remarry. These classes are:

1) Old women who have reached menopuase

2) Women who are pregnant

3) Girls who have never mensurated at all.

Do you notice the third category of people that Quran 65:4 is talking about?

Empiree:
the age in the Hadith was a lie and incorrect. Statistic timeline record shows contrary to what Hadith said about her age at the time of marriage. The least that came close to the lowest age was around 11. This was even far from 6 documented. If you study history of hijra, battle of badr, Aisha's age, you get to realize that 6 and 9 didn't come close at all. That was fabricated.

I have given you just one example brekkie but it seems you didn't pay attention. I posted that no one was allowed to join to accompany warriors to the battlefield unless they were 15. Aisha(ra) was accompanied companions to the battlefield but he was not as yet married to the prophet until 2 yrs later. This should have given you a clue adjust. I am so so reluctant to bring these aHadith up bcuz they are scattered all over sahid Bukhari and Muslim. But ahadith that claim she was 6 which islamophobic people capitalized on have no statistics data to back them up.

You are yet to provide a single Islamic source to backup your argument. Is it that you don't have the source or you just manufacture information from your imagination. I provided sources which I used in building my case and I want you do the same.

Give us Islamic sources that contradict what Imam Muslim and Imam Bukhari documented. Is this too difficult for you to provide?

And FYA, sahih Bukhari is the most trusted hadith collection among the sunni Muslims (and the interpretation of the ayahs of the quran is based largely on sahih Bukhari's work) unless you want to disagree.

I also gave you surah 65 ayah 4 on child marriage in Islam being sanctioned by allah and his messenger. I don't think you even bothered to read it (together with it associated tafsir).

Empiree:
I knew you were coming here. Ifa was originally pure science in yorubaland. But what makes it haram and forbidden now is alawo have compromised is. They have inculcated deities (their orishas) into it which makes it haram. You can hear their utterances when they honor their ifa pedigrees. I know you have evil intention but I won't buy your bull crap. Go on YouTube and learn from Yoruba professors who have nothing to do with Yoruba deities(religion) but they studied ifa. They would tell you it was science but alawo messed it up. Ifa is now haram. Why are you comparing?. Why didn't you say modern future forecast is also ifa?.

Let me give you a knockout. Those day before prophet muhammad SAW, people used to visit graves and did all sorts of rubbishes. When prophet muhammad SAW came he temporarily banned the practice of visiting graves. After his companions are well grounded in Islam he now allowed them to visit graves up till today. Why did prophet forbade early muslims from visiting graves?. It was banned bcus of haram activities perpetrated by pagans. Question is, just because disbelievers used to visit graves and now Muslims do it make Muslims compared to them?. No. It means graves visitation was always human natural disposition or fitra. Now, are only three Muslims visiting graves today?. It is worldwide thing. But it doesn't mean everyone likes it. It is only a recommendation. Some don't like visiting graves like myself. What we do there is what matters.

what you dont understand is, sand browsing is old fashion. It doesn't have to be sand. Sand represents paper, board, slate etc. Your hand represents pencil, pen etc. There is nothing spiritual about it. It is calculation or simple science. But it looks crazy bcus in nigeria we don't invest on science and technology. Nigerians are old version but Oyinbo people have quickly advance.

Is deities not inculcated into sound browsing in Islam? Why accept the Arabian/Islamic sound browsing (as from god) but reject the Yoruba sand browsing as being 'contaminated' by 'babalawos'? I think you need to apologize to your ancestors for embarrassing them on the internet.

It is crazy to compare sand browsing with 'grave visitation'. You visit the grave of loved ones to pay respect to them but do sand browsing to read the future which is considered Idolatry (unless if this is not idolatry in Islam).

Who told you sand browsing is a science? It is metaphysic and a spiritual practice among the people of Africa and the Arab world. My question is this, what make Islamic sand browsing acceptable while IFA tradition is not acceptable? In Islamic sand browsing, is allah not called?

Empiree:
^^

Your case is closed jare. You said you answered but you didn't. Here is my question again.


Prove to me anyone during the time of the prophet who opposed his marriage to Aisha either due to her "underage" or otherwise?.


You can't conclude in 21st century that he was pedophilia when we can't find such allegation in his time. I also asked you for historical breakdown but you can not. Until you can effectively prove there were antagonists then I won't take your serious.

I haven't even started bringing out more proves against yours. Only one question I asked but you failed. Better still, bring one hadith that says xyz set of people were against their marriage.

Have a good day

Run run master. You are yet to provide a single Islam source that says Aisha was not 6 when Mohammed married her and 9 when Mohammed started sleeping with her.

However, you have changed the basis of the argument which is 'the people of Mohammed's time didn't condemn his action'. What is your stand, that the age attributed to Aisha was a lie or that it was a norm to marry underaged girls during the time of Mohamed?

Empiree:
geomancy is a branch of scientific knowledge. I asked you to quote from hadith so you could see the difference.

Prophet's responses (condemnation) to soothsayers etc was different when he was asked about drawing or "sand browsing". I wish I can refer you to where you can learn more about this?. I am not against geomancy bcuz there was no direct condemnation by the prophet. Modern meteorology falls in this category too.

Geomancy is calculation not soothsaying. But it is unfortunate that some people apply ruling of soothsayers for geomancy. I don't like to argue this issue. Sand browsing is old version. It is modernized through technology today. There is no spiritual being in the sand telling people what to do. It is simply calculation or binary. It is coding system.

So you agree with the Yoruba version of Geomancy using IFA divination. If you approve the Islamic version of sand browsing you have no right (or reason) to condemn IFA divination using sand browsing.

We can conclude that IFA divination is as old as Islamic sand browsing.

gidgiddy:
For me, I think this is very wrong. If the husband has done something wrong, face the husband and leave his family out of it

This is one of the ways SARS brutalised and killed many innocent people. SARS arrested, tortured and killed many people just because they were related or associated with the suspect they wanted.

How can people be doing what SARS was doing? Why victimize the wife of James Nwafor who probably never knew what her husband did at work? Even if she knew, what could she have done?

This 'guilty by relationship' attitude of Nigerians should stop, the Nigerian Police are using this to cause too much hardship to too many people

She and her children benefitted from the evil of her husband hence she deserves every punishment and consequences of her husband's action. Who told you she is not aware of the kind of husband she has? Who told you she hasn't been called by families of the victims to help them plead on their behalf? She deserves what her husbands deserves.

Can two work together except they agree?

Empiree:
if you could quote this one what stopped you from quoting everything?. I have not given my opinion or my position on this issue and I am not interested either

I have quoted the hadith I have. If it is abridged you can provide the full quote. It is as if you like creating bottlenecks these days. Do you condemn or accept this hadith where Mohammed approved line drawing (or Geomancy)?