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Bidam: You have no case and no point here..The reason you opened this OP was in an attempt to ridicule,maligned and discredit tithers claiming they are following old covenant if they do tithe.Now that you have been flogged with scriptures and you have no rebbuttal for it.Instead of you to bury your head and wallow in shame and pity, you are here playing the victim card.SMH!

Bidam: OK..we tithers know that.
So does it mean Christians should be lawless

DrummaBoy: The best kind of deliverance is understanding my brother.

Bidam: [b]In this dispensation If God heals you. You give testimony in church in appreciation to what God has done.

Bidam: All the teachings and sayings of Jesus is applicable to both the pharisees and his disciples who were constantly with him. He came to save the Jewish nation and by extension the whole world,so your case that he was referring to the pharisees alone has no moral standing.All scripture including MAT 23:23 IS WRITTEN FOR OUR LEARNING AND INSTRUCTION.

frosbel: show me please and these scriptures must be explicit in their reference to the tithe.

Bidam: What does Mathew 23:23 tells you? Do you believe Jesus was speaking to you?

Noneroone: I can understand the ease with which some christians deliberately mis- interprete the bible to remove those portions whose content they consider impracticable. Even if we assume it was directed to the nation of Israel, are we christians not part of God's people? " If you belong to Christ then you are the descendant of Abraham and will recieve what God has promised"(Gal. 3:29)

Bidam: I said you should go and study more.Do you discard the words of Jesus himself? Was Jesus not the FIRST APOSTLE?

UKDBOSS: Yes u re required to keep the law. Jesus didnt come 2 abolish d law. The law is made up of two components; sin and punishment. Eg. If a man dishonours his father let him die. There is no sin where dere is no law so the mere fact that sin exists means d law exists. Grace takes away d punishment 4 sin. Jesus bore it

Bidam: Go study to show yourself approved bro...Gud nyt.

Bidam: You are still wrong. National Israel was a prototype of what God intends to do globally so it was likened to a church at the time. Moses was a type of messiah. Jesus also spoke to Israel as a messiah.His death ushered in the full purposes of God. It's all about types and shadows.The reality is Christ. Christ is actually coming for a church not churches.Still go and study more.

Bidam: Wrong.....Jesus sayings and teachings before going to the cross is valid and binding on every believer.So also is the Law and the prophets.Christ was concealed in the OT and revealed in the NT.like i tell goshen and your friend, there is a synergy between the OT and NT.

(John 14:21-24) "He who has my commandments, and keeps them, he it is who loves me: ... If a man loves me, he will keep my word: ... He who does not love me does not keep not my sayings: and the word which you hear is not mine, but the Father's who sent me."

Noneroone: My tithe goes to God through my church. The injunction is clear, "bring full amount of your tithes to the temple, so that there will be plenty of food there. Put me to the test and you will see that i will open the windows of heaven and pour out on you in abundandance all kinds of good things" (Malachi 3 : 10)

Bidam: Don't be hasty..re read my post again..scripture records people giving their all to God.Read and learn.

The mind: No matter what, where, when and how they proved it, anti tithers had and have made up their minds not to give even if it is God collecting tithe Himself. This is not the first, second, third and hundredth times such topic had come to the public domain for discuss on this forum. It will always end like this because when man makes up his mind to do and undo it takes the Spirit of God to change it even when it is so glaring. The Pharisees saw the hand writings, saw the demonstration and still never believed in Christ. So move on and do what you are convinced in your heart to do. But know for sure the parable of the man that hid his money, when the master came what was his reward? Your answer is as good as what is written in Matthew 25: 14-30.

shdemidemi: ^^^
You have to be careful not to misjudge your conscience for the voice of God/Holy Spirit. Obedience to the Spirit of God can only mean understanding and acting based on the understanding gained from the word of God as written in the Bible. We need to learn God's word through scriptures to know and quantify that which is expected of us as Christians and not through any supposed 'spiritual experience'.

Bidam: Yeah..this is where most christians stop in their revelations and think that since Christ have fufilled the law;there are no more laws to be obeyed.

Joagbaje: The bible declares the blood of Jesus better than the blood of bulls. Blood of animals were to cover people flesh for a season . But the blood of christ is perfect and eternal . And it cleanses man spirit soul and body

Joagbaje: There's never a single scripture where God ever spoke against tithing .

Joagbaje: Is the law bad ? The law contains vital kingdom principles which can be used for illustrations and references . Didn't paul quote the law many times. "Honor thy father " is it not in the law? Why would paul quote the law to the church? Why is it tithing satan fight ? It only shows that there's something very significant about tithing .

highyo: 1 Timothy 4 1-2
(1) BUT THE [Holy] Spirit distinctly and expressly declares that in latter times some will turn away from the faith, giving attention to deluding and seducing spirits and doctrines that demons teach,
(2) Through the hypocrisy and pretensions of liars whose consciences are seared (cauterized),

Brother it seems you have started listening to this kind of message? that is why you are twisting the word of God

Rev22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.


bro be warned you are taking away from the word of God, encouraging people to steal from the Lord
Even when Jesus was alive, he never stop the giving to the lord neither does it cancelled it

Jesus him self even monitored the giving of offering in the temple

Mark 12:41-44

King James Version (KJV)


41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.

42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.

43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:

44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.

He never came to abolished the law but to fulfill it

The lord of the Old testament is also the lord of the new testament. if you fail to pay your tithe, you are a thief, and no thief shall inherit the kingdom of God

OLAADEGBU: Let Them Alone

"Ephraim is joined to idols: let him alone" (Hosea 4:17).

The Lord is long-suffering, and those who speak in His name should be also. There do come times, however, when further witness becomes useless or even harmful, or when continued interaction merely invites contamination with ungodliness. In such cases we must simply leave such people alone, following them with prayer and trusting God alone to deal with them.

Such was the ten-tribe nation of Israel, led by the tribe of Ephraim, just before God sent them into Assyrian captivity. God, through the prophet Hosea, told Judah henceforth to let them alone--they were hopelessly given over to pagan evolutionist idolatry. The words "joined to" in today’s verse mean, literally, "under the spell of."

The Lord Jesus used similarly harsh language in reference to the hypocritical Pharisees of His own day: "Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch" (Matthew 15:14).

There are other similar warnings. Of those who come, "having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof," Paul says, "from such turn away" (2 Timothy 3:5). He has also warned us to "shun profane and vain babblings |that is, the empty philosophizing of those who reject God|: for they will increase unto more ungodliness" (2 Timothy 2:16). "And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them" (Ephesians 5:11).

Most, if not all, such warnings seem in context to apply especially to people who once knew and understood the truth, perhaps even professing to accept it for a time, and then knowingly rejected it. When such men oppose our testimony, God says to let them alone; He can deal with them better than we. HMM

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captivating: You van decide to give God a tithe of all youyou possess, it ddoesn't mean you are obliged to kkeep all laws.. the only problem is if you want to be saved by the law, then you must keep all to be saved

okeyxyz: It's all well and good to declare you are under a new law(like most christians do), the law of the spirit, etc. But one thing you'd failed to declare is what this new law says. Every law must have it's mandates and definitions and do's and don'ts. Do you just claim to be under a new law and then when I ask for definitions (according to this new law) you take me back to the law of sin and death(the law of moses) to carry on with it's old doctrines?? My point is: if you claim to be free from the law of moses, then you must not follow it's definitons of right and wrong. If you are under a new law then you must be expected to fulfill different expectations, not the expectations of the law of moses that you are supposed to be free from.

vickyO: I hope you believe in sin. Your definition of the Holy Spirit is wrong. The Holy Spirit is the Comforter Christ promised, He is not a doctrine. Don't get it all wrong and remember what Jesus said. IF your righteousness doesn't surpass those of the Pharisees, you can't get into heaven. Matt. 5:20