₦airaland Forum

Jayslicky:
Nigeria is just joke, cultist organizing public meeting that was even attended by soldiers and they were unharmed or even arrested, it shows that most of our leaders are also part of the dreaded cults.

We still have a long way to go in this country.

They are government boys. They can't be outlawed.

But there is no way those things could be swallowed. It's demonic or magical.

Corruption is fighting back at us even in football. The sports minister should be sacked. The coach should also be sacked. Players should be selected on merit and not on who you know.

He thinks he will be spared if the Jihad is launched.

arrestdarrester:
Learn to be constructive in criticism. What is a waste please? The time or resources you gave to him? Or the life you gave to him? And who told you he didn't have a team with him there?

Simply because you're too shortsighted to see the results does not mean this method by the man in question is not effective. Do you know how many Christians this has inspired?

When you preach the gospel and no one is led to Christ, it's ineffective. And even when they are led to Christ, effective follow up is important to retain them. I plan to open a training school on street evangelism to tackle this lapses.

The state's legislatures should empower their governor to set up armed vigilantes groups if they want to frustrate the creation of state police.

Lazy mummy wants to take her burden off.

eyeview:
Most people don't know that freeze is actually an anti Christ agent. They usually start like Christians themselves seeking to correct anomalies in the body of Christ until their real motive start showing where they are attacking everything done in the faith

I think I understand what he is saying. Many a time, I have personally questioned this method of evangelism. There is really nothing wrong in preaching everywhere one goes but some method do not yield results.

The only way it can be effective is to have a team that will spread themselves round the area as the preaching is going on. Then after that, an alter call is made. They should be asked to either raise their hands up or come forward. The team will help to counsel those who responded and get their contact for follow up purpose. If this is not done, the whole exercise is a waste.

It's long overdue. This has always been my recommendation in my several posts and it's finally here. The life of Nigerians are however too precious to use the constitution to delay the implementation.

jesusjnr:
I fully understand that of Israel how they would suffer because they knew not the time of their visitation as Jesus Himself pointed out on this occasion when it was said:

Luke 19:41-44 (KJV)

41 And when he was come near, he beheld the city, and wept over it,
42 Saying,
If thou hadst known, even thou, at least in this thy day, the things which belong unto thy peace! but now they are hid from thine eyes.
43 For the days shall come upon thee, that thine enemies shall cast a trench about thee, and compass thee round, and keep thee in on every side,
44 And shall lay thee even with the ground, and thy children within thee; and they shall not leave in thee one stone upon another; because thou knewest not the time of thy visitation.

So Israel's suffering is not the issue here, but Jesus was talking meant Israel when He said to His own disciples "ye shall be hated of all men for my name sake"?

For whatever Israel were going to suffer for, it was certainly not for His name sake, but for not knowing the time of their visitation.

And moreover Jesus was speaking to His disciples here, and also talked about their persecutions, betrayal by loved ones, death etc., because of Him.

The reason i'm insisting on this is because if Jesus says something, it's important we get the interpretation right otherwise it could prove very costly at the end.

Thanks.

There is no point to over flog this issue. When interpreting Scripture, we have to interpret it within context. Matthew 24 was an exposition on the events of the last days. But let's leave it here. The most important thing is to impact our world with the gospel so we can save more souls faster than the devil snatch them to hell.

jesusjnr:
So how does that applied to being hated for Christ's name and Gospel sake?

For remember Israel were also part of the haters and persecutors of the disciples of Jesus.

Also do not forget Stephen who was stone to death by the Israelites for preaching the Gospel of Jesus, and a certain Saul an Israelite who consented to his death at the time, that was later confronted by Jesus who warned him against continuing with such.

So please explain how Jesus was meant Israel when He was saying this to His disciples?

We too are hated but certainly not by all men. I am emphasizing on the phrase, 'by all men'. Another verse says, 'by all nations'. (Matthew 12:9).

Israel will play a centre stage in world affair after the rapture. They will initially accept the false prophet also known as the second beast in Revelation 13 as their Messiah. But after three and a half years, he will set up an image in the temple as predicted by Daniel. It is at this point that the blindness which is currently plaguing Isreal will be removed and they will cry out to God for deliverance. All nations at this point under the reign of the anti Christ will hate Israel and will raise up a joint army to wipe them off. Just before they completely deal with Israel, Jesus will come back and defeat the anti Christ and the False Prophet. And Christ will establish his Millennium Reign on earth.

jesusjnr:
If you are in the world but not of the world because you belong to the Kingdom of God, get ready to be hated of all men going by these sayings of Jesus:

Luke 21:16,17 (KJV)

16 And ye shall be betrayed both by parents, and brethren, and kinsfolks, and friends; and some of you shall they cause to be put to death.
17 And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake.

John 15:18-20 (KJV)

18 If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.
19 If ye were of the world, the world would love his own: but because ye are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hateth you.
20 Remember the word that I said unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord. If they have persecuted me, they will also persecute you; if they have kept my saying, they will keep your's also.

John 3:19-21 (KJV)

19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.
21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

John 17:14 (KJV)

14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.

The world hated Jesus because of His Words, so if you don't want to be hated by the world, dare not receive and keep His Words.

Because if you do, that would make the world to hate you just as it hated Jesus, because the Words of Jesus would make you not to be of the world just like Jesus who was not of the world but of the Kingdom of God.

Hence this Saying of Jesus:

Luke 14:26-28 (KJV)

26 If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
27 And whosoever doth not bear his cross, and come after me, cannot be my disciple.
28 For which of you, intending to build a tower, sitteth not down first, and counteth the cost, whether he have sufficient to finish it?

So you must count the cost before you proceed because this is a level where being hated by the world becomes the new norm.

Welcome to the world of the hated!

Being hated by all nations is a prophecy concerning Isreal. It will be fulfilled in the future when Isreal will refuse to worship the image set up in the temple of God. This is the abomination that causes desolation that Jesus made reference to Matthew 24.

He was on fire. Pastors should please stop this shameless thing.

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Jozzy4:
Her brain is working, that's clinical death . strictly mental images based on her belief system

None of those who died biologically in the bible give stories of hell .

The question is wy is it that none of those who died and come to life in the bible give such stories ? Total brain death is the opposite of life

Jonah died and he talked about the pains of hell.
Jonah 2:2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the BELLY OF HELL CRIED I, and thou heardest my voice.

His lifeless body was in the fish belly but his soul was in the belly of hell until it was reunited with his body just as the fish vomited him out.

Jozzy4:
No such thing in the scripture. People actually died and were ressurected but None claims afterlife

Ecc 9:5

Jesus even said concerning two of them , they are sleeping . just to let you know

There are so many after life experiences. But even if you are told, you will not believe it. You have made up your mind on what to believe. I hope you will be able to stand the pains of hell?

hakeem4:
[s] so those who died and Jesus rose back up did not tell us about the after life.

The truth is that me and you have been on earth, we have the same brain power, and you tell me there is life after death because you read a book written by people who did not know the earth orbited the sun and you want me to believe that ancient book common!

If I tell you that I can mysteriously turn stone to pizza. I am definitely sure you won’t believe me. Then you ask me to give you evidence and I reply go and check my diary will you take me seriously?

I feel so sorry for you because you don't know the doom that awaits you?

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vaxx:
This is a matter of faith and NOTHING else. What evidence exist that Moses received direct verbally word from God, orbwere actually led to the promise land by Aaron. I am not going to say much on this since this is not related to the topic. No human has ever die completely and rose back to life. Maybe there will be breakthru in the future, no one is certain.

From your very saying, Mary baxter was taking to hell physically. And in this case , she will not be demonstrating what she sees thru revelation but physically. That must be a special kind of treatment.


So what are the evidence that suggest all books about hell on the shelves are not fictional for any thinking adult.

What about Biblical prophecies that are fulfilled? Does it not add to the authenticity of the Bible? If it does, why not believe other revelations contained in it?

Muslim governors using government money to sponsor their feast but Christian governors will never do the same.

Even federal government sponsors cattle rearing and herdsmen but they will never do the same for farmers in the south. Don't you think Christians are highly marginalized?

This idiot should be kicked out of office. Ebonyi women should come out and protest half naked so it can get the attention of everyone.

freeze001:
No Christian in his right mind will go on a bombing/killing spree. If at all any Christian is recruited and not immediately executed, they are first brainwashed and indoctrinated into rabid, extremist islamic principles before they can ever engage in the kind of madness we see and hear that they perpetrate.

I agree with you. And if they don't carry out the order of their commandants, they will be executed.

hakeem4:
you were asked a simple question can you give us evidence for your afterlife?

There are overwhelming evidences in the Scripture. Take time and read the Bible, you will see them there.

If biblical prophecies on the emergence of successive kingdom from the time of Babylonia Empire has come to pass as predicted in Daniel, Chapter 2, then be sure that all other prophecies of the last kingdom of the world and the final judgment will all come to pass.

Revelation 1:1 The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which MUST SHORTLY COME TO PASS; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

Jesus is coming back. If the devil couldn't stop him from rising from the dead, he certainly cannot stop him from coming back. And the resurrection of Jesus is a proven fact. No one has been able to disprove it. His tomb is empty.

vaxx:
You actually don't understand me. Biological death is not an event but a process . A complete loss of brainstem function and consciousness and permanent cessation of circulation cannot be restored or reversed. No one has ever fully undergo biological death and still come back to life. Not even pope or mother Theresa. All near death experience are clinical death which occur often.


What is so special about Mary Baxter to be shown hell physically ? Was she a leader of prostitute syndicate or world reknown religious leader? How emperical can we test her claim? There should be materialistic evidence for this, since she experience it physically.

But Jesus died completely and rose from the dead. He was certified dead before he was buried. If Jesus could rise from the dead, it's possible others can too. Concerning Mary Baxter, God can use anybody. You don't have to be special for God to show you revelations. Just try and get her book and read. Even if I didn't read her book, I believe in hell based on the evidence of the scripture. I actually have an ebook on that. You can place order for it and read.

I don't get it. How can the loser get much more than the winner? Which belt will he buy for himself? How much is the belt worth. Please I need a good answer because it doesn't make sense to me.

MaziOmenuko:
Boko haram runs a quasi-government where all territories under their region pays 'tax' to. Any mosque, market that refuses to acknowledge their reign and don't bring returns are attacked and bombed. Any imam that preaches against them becomes a target.

I think this makes a little sense to me. But I am thinking some of the recruits might be Christians who when they are asked to go on a mission choose to attack the mosque instead. Because more mosque has been attacked than churches most recently and I know they forcefully recruit people into their group. Well, whatever their motives, we want all these to end.

hakeem4:
these are empty claims. Even mr Lazarus in the bible died for 4 days but he did not even tell us about hell or heaven

Even if he did, you will not believe. Unbelief is a terrible state of mind.

vaxx:
lol. You mean those who died clinically and not biological? Hope you are aware they are two types of death. One is clinical and another is biological death. The clinical death only signify cardiac arrest which is potentially reversible as we can see in many cases. Those people still have their brain working and the Brain may be scanning different kind of thought process it has received when the body was conscious. As we use to do when we dream while sleeping. Actually clinical death experience is not a guaranty of afterlife. Our brain may be playing tricks on us just like it normally do while we sleep.

I understand you very well. These are those who died biologically. Besides, there are also a few people who never died that visited hell supernaturally. An example was Mary Baxter. She was taken to hell by our Lord Jesus for 40 days every night. She visited hell with her two eyes opened. And the experience she had is in her book.

vaxx:
i am not disputing jesus prophesy nor am I backing off from his countless teaching in the bible. Hinduism, budissm , islam etc all have their concept of afterlife which they can also demonsrate to be true using their own scripture.

What am asking is how i can learn from your perspective about the teaching of jesus regarding this topic. How possible it is? What if the saying regarding hell and heaven are parable since jesus made many parable of such in the bible. And likewise I ask of materialistic evidence.

There are several testimonies of those who had died, went to hell and given a second chance. Their stories confirmed the hell story. You can Google them and read the stories yourself.

I am trying to figure out why Boko Haram who are supposed to be an Islamic fundamentalist attack mosques on different occasions. Should they be fighting their own people? Or are there other groups disguised as Boko Haram carrying out reprisal attacks on mosques?

Would he have said that if he is still holding an elective position? However, he has spoken the truth.

It's stupidity. What if someone faints in the course of it? This happens in a Church that has no vision.