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Christianity EtcRe: Rules On Slavery by truthislight: 9:45pm On Nov 03, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: Rules On Slavery by truthislight: 9:45pm On Nov 03, 2013
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Christianity EtcRe: Philosophies Are Deception, It Currupts Your Mind Not Of Christ But Of The World by truthislight: 10:00pm On Nov 01, 2013
Yooguyz: I love this! Particularly at boldened. But one question please

if whatever you accept and act on is consistent with the bible, is that alone a criteria to make him/her survive armageddon?
Now, havent said what i had said, i will advise that you dont derail this thread.

considering what i had said above, there is no way i can be a decider of whatsoever and give answers to whatever, but the bible does that.

However, if there is a general biblical doctrinal issue you wish discussed, feel free to open a thread for it and let the bible consistency be the guide for what is the "truth".

If i have anything to contribute and feel like contributing on it, i will join in the thread if i want.

But for this thread, the op/thread owner has decided what should be discussed, if he wishes otherwise, it is his call.

Peace.
Christianity EtcRe: Philosophies Are Deception, It Currupts Your Mind Not Of Christ But Of The World by truthislight: 7:15pm On Nov 01, 2013
Yooguyz: @bolden, you don't usually use it, you use the word Yahweh.
Lol. grin

I never imagined i will be laughing as of this moment, but here i am laughing. grin

bros, i dont set standards for christians, the bible does, just ensure whatever you accept is consistent with the bible.

"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the 'truth'." (1 Timothy 2:3-4).

"Sanctify them by means of the truth: thy 'word' is truth. " (John 17:17)
Christianity EtcRe: Yes, its true, Tithe Works by truthislight: 7:00pm On Nov 01, 2013
[quote author=Demain_man]Wey dem? The tithe collectors?

E dey work for the tithe givers too. At least dem dey alive grin. As if the tithe collectors no dey alive cheesy[/quote]The ones we have here are collectors not givers o. Cant you see the way they battle to keep the milking line open ? Hehehe. Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: Yes, its true, Tithe Works by truthislight:
DrummaBoy: When I saw this post, I no fit laugh finish! Na so we see am O!!



O men, na wa these guys wey dey preach dey collect tithe O. Christembassey, shey we no go join the fray? Money dey inside this thing O. See the jeeps wey Chris Oyaks alone dey cruise!

Well if una one suffer, una dey una side O. Tithe dey Work O!!
Hehehehe. Lol. grin

you are on you own o, i cannot because of this short life loose out on eternal life o! grin
Christianity EtcRe: Philosophies Are Deception, It Currupts Your Mind Not Of Christ But Of The World by truthislight: 6:05pm On Nov 01, 2013
Yooguyz: did Truthislight just say that?

Bro, your use of words has changed, does it mean your ideologies are changing?
sorry !
Did you make any sense i should understand ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by truthislight: 5:43pm On Nov 01, 2013
MyJoe: Bravo. I see your writing has improved a great deal. It appears that what the Theocratic Ministry School could not do in years Nairaland has done in months. Seun must hear this! If I had the ears of those concerned (the governing elders), I would ask them to include writing exercises in the TMS, instead of just talk, talk and talk. Writing may not have been of much apparent use to “kingdom interests” in the past but nowadays with these Internet forums and the need for you young Kingdom soldiers to go online and fly the flag, change is inevitable.

It’s too early yet for me to say whether you are now able to follow structured arguments or not. But, most importantly, it appears that while your writing has improved your mind has not. As you can be seen doing against me here, you still pluck lies out of your bottom to defend Jehovah.

ooh Sharrap !
Christianity EtcRe: Yes, its true, Tithe Works by truthislight: 9:10am On Nov 01, 2013
christemmbassey: bros where u get this kain verse? U tin say na every verse u go dey quote any how any how, D'boy, i know say u no like we pastors o, imagine u quoting NT for us, ok, is it bad 4 me to recoup even though i no invest shi shi n d real investors wait for donkey yrs with fasting n prayer for opening of windows dat will nt open. I tot u're my bros, now, i know better, bros no dey quote this kind verse again o, otherwise! U know na- we go make dat verse disapper for ya bible by fire by force. Cheers.
Such verses that Drummer B quoted are 'nerver' quoted in the get rich churches of today o, infact, it is as though such kind verses is none existence.

If Chris Oyakhilome sees such kind verses, he will say it was wrongly translated and proceeds to shade more light on it in the best way to understand it.

The guy does not see any such kind passage in the NT that talks such kind things as quoted above o. cheesy

will he tell his congregation how he toiled for them or how he suffered for them ?
Ok, he will tell them how he went hungry for them. Lol. grin

impossicant o!
Christianity EtcRe: Yes, its true, Tithe Works by truthislight: 8:57am On Nov 01, 2013
christemmbassey: Yes, tithe works, but ONLY FOR THE TITHE COLLECTORS. Just like kidnaping, armed robery, pension fraud, bank fraud and other crimes work for the practitioners. Ok, now, shine ur eyes, think and answer the following questions; 1. Who owns private jets in the church, is it the tithe payer or the tithe collectors? 2. Who owns universities where members can not afford for their children? Who own mansions n fleet of exotic cars, is it the tithe payers or the tithe collectors? 3. Who can afford the best school overseas for their children, d tithe payers or tithe collectors? 4. Who has investments in choiced blue chip coys, is it d tithe payer or d tithe collectors? You can also add ur own questions and answer, YES, TITHING WORKS VERY VERY WELL, BUT CLEARLY, ONLY FOR THE TITHE COLLECTORS.
Yes, tithe works indeed, and we can all see how it works. Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: Philosophies Are Deception, It Currupts Your Mind Not Of Christ But Of The World by truthislight: 8:35am On Nov 01, 2013
BERNIMOORE: these statement next said it all .....Satan had dangled that appeal to Eve, that Eve will 'know good and bad' herself without relying on God

you are on point
we can see how far such has led man in the world today.

We can also see what "christianity" base on philosophy of men and not exclusively on the word of God has turned to.
Christianity EtcRe: Philosophies Are Deception, It Currupts Your Mind Not Of Christ But Of The World by truthislight:
BERNIMOORE: these statement next said it all .....Satan had dangled that appeal to Eve, that Eve will 'know good and bad' herself without relying on God

you are on point
we can see how far such has led man in the world today.

We can also see what "christianity" base on philosophy of man and not exclusively on the word of God has turned to.

*Eddited*
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by truthislight:
Logicboy03: You can't even see the problem.

The irony here is that you are complaining that we atheists didnt engage in the exercise that the op wanted but your post shows the annoying problem that the exercise leads to.

The issue that you cant see is that the exercise with the pictures will lead to subjective and time wasting arguments such as the one you have posted. We could see through Deepsight's charade. We are more deep sighted than you or deepsight...forgive the pun NOT cool
Lol. grin very funny though.

Yeah! "jumping" is easier, abi ? Suit yourselves.

Maybe, that is the difference between atheist and theist > "wasting time to dig deeper".

There sure are things out there to dig into on this subject, an't scratched the sufface yet.
Though it is a "waste of time" to you.

Good Good Good
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by truthislight:
If the atheist we have on this forum is half as opened minded as you, then the effort being expended on them would have been worth it.

*though it is most probable that it will yield any useful outcome, since there are probable extraneous reasons responsible for that*

However:

Kay 17: 1st Picture -- invokes the resemblance of the Thinking Man, deep in contemplation. The strenous effort of reasoning -- gift from the Greeks.

2nd Picture -- A stone and the human brain. I immediately tick the brain off as fundamentally different from the stone, a mechanism responsible for the sustainence of life itself. However after viewing the first picture, i perceive a demand to think deeper, as a result I try to find similarities between the Stone and the human brain.

The structure of the stone is elaborately complex, owing to our knowledge of atoms, there is a specific arrangement necessary to provide the stone its dependable rigidity. The atoms themselves have an arrangement decided by tiny individualistic sub-particles, which make the most dazzling behaviour, yet a stone is firm, solid and dependable.
Good of you to allow reasonableness to see the light of day.

But
Kay 17: yet a stone is firm, solid and dependable.
'You' : "The atoms themselves have an arrangement decided by tiny individualistic sub-particles, which make the most dazzling behaviour"

^
base on that your observation of the rock and its composition, what then caused it to defy its natural composition to become the other comparable object, soft and mealable with a 'mind'(since the brain is made from similar matter) ?

Does the blind rock have a mind of its own that directed it to attain such a ........ ? Smh.

How did it move from A(rock) to B(brain) ?
Please, explain.

Kay 17: 3rd/4th/5th pictures -- Growth/Evolution.
yeah! Easy to make a leap instead of contemplating certain foundamental questions, jumping is easy and convenient.

The pupies with closed eyes accessing the mothers nipples to suckle is not worth the effort, is not worth asking how and why that is inherent amongst this animals/mamals, at such a tender age though the rock cannot move itself.
That same pupy, when dead is like the rock in question, why the difference ?

Kay 17: 6th - - Monarchy. Traditional Authority which is questioned by nature.
why all those ^ and not matter lying down ? Is the rock and the dead body not the same compositions ? Why all that that you are talking about : "Monarchy. Traditional Authority" ? No need, when you see rocks, say such to it.

What directs the move from matter to living man and back to matter ? Is the rock that intelligent to undergo all those processes all by itself? I will say yes, why not ? Afteral, there was no intelligence needed to direct all that.

Dont blame me for my conclussions. The world and earth and the univers did not need any intelligence to direct affires in it, Let alone the human brain.
My own house fell from the skies, the skies are the magical places where houses are form without a builder.

SMH SMH SMH SMH SMH................

Sometimes, i just wander if certain set of people are worth the effort. SMH
Christianity EtcRe: Philosophies Are Deception, It Currupts Your Mind Not Of Christ But Of The World by truthislight: 1:27pm On Oct 29, 2013
Reyginus: Dude, I don't think you understand that bible portion. Read it again.
Your own is a straight forward case, the Roman catholic church has already turned you to atheism, you are already both legs in it though you still enter church just like logic boy does.

No need to waste my time on you in this.

Peace.
Christianity EtcRe: Philosophies Are Deception, It Currupts Your Mind Not Of Christ But Of The World by truthislight: 8:38am On Oct 29, 2013
BERNIMOORE: YOU WILL WONDER why people who profess to be Godly today violates what was boldly written in the bible, but rather they challenge the verses in the bible to vindicate theirself or action, but PAUL apostle noted the cause of the problem, those individuals have pulluted their minds with wordly philosophies not according to christ but of the world, read;



Colossians 2:7-8


7having been firmly rooted and now being built up in Him and established in your faith, just as you were instructed, and overflowing with gratitude. 8 See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, according to the tradition of men, according to the elementary principles of the world, rather than according to Christ
^^^
True!

Even those that are eager to project it are often carried away with pride as they struggle to project themselves and their head knowledge on how intelligent they are.

The result is that, satan catches them in his trap "whole sale" and wholly.

Satan had dangled that appeal to Eve, that Eve will 'know good and bad' herself without relying on God.
Christianity EtcRe: The Philosophy Of Truth Through Pictorial Arguments by truthislight: 7:30am On Oct 28, 2013
plaetton: I have no idea what you are talking about. huh
I might be wrong, but I am sensing a tinge of personal animosity towards my viewpoints,rather than the healthy objective robust arguments that I have grown to expect from you, Deepsight.
I have advised you before to stop going to church.
It is messing with your great mind. lipsrsealed
That singular obsession on your part of 'wanting' DeepSight to turn atheist is taking a toll on your rationality that your focuss and concentration toward a rational postulation is being affected.

Watched it men!
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by truthislight: 10:26pm On Oct 27, 2013
italo: "none apostolic writings has no basis to be considered as inspired like that of the apostles."[/b]
The apocriphals has no basis.

Stop chasing shadows.

Next you will mention James since you dont know he was also an apostle. Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by truthislight: 10:07pm On Oct 27, 2013
MyJoe: Very good you knew what to expect - at least, you claim to. Now go ahead and prove you weren't lying for Jehovah as always in your claim about the CD denial. That should be easy.
Who is the liar here ?

Who cares about dinial and living in denial ?

Whatever!
Christianity EtcRe: Jehovah's Witnesses: the only true religion? by truthislight:
MyJoe: Despite strong evocations to the contrary, I remain advised that the “truthislight” handle belongs to a human rather than a bot.

While only a bot would normally exhibit such spectacular want of ability to recall correctly, cogitate or parse, one must make some allowance for the religious fool splashing about the pool of lies in a wretched undertaking to discredit a Nairalander and defend his Jehovah.

And what utterance have I made here that requires your taking them as true rather than easy verification?
Hehehehe grin

what else can one expect from your like, other than such ^.

What you get out of a can is a function of the content of the can.

Though the truth is bitter to some.

Have a nice day.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by truthislight: 3:12pm On Oct 27, 2013
There is nothing like the "succession of the 'leader' of christians and the apostles" since one is their learder : Jesus christ.

That ^ truth, peter and the rest of the apostles were well aware of, sucession as leader talk is human creation.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by truthislight: 2:53pm On Oct 27, 2013
italo: Ha! shocked huh cry undecided lipsrsealed

"all the books of the NT used for teaching were writen by christ apostles"

"none apostolic writings has no basis to be considered as inspired like that of the apostles."
So, to you, the content of mark was of mark's originality or he was quoting what Jesus said ?

If comprehension is your problem, say so.

Luke reported what the apostles said and did in the book of acts, not his teachings.

Learn how to read and comprehen please.
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by truthislight:
italo: Yet Truthislife (Protestant) insists that Mark and Luke arent inspired books.
I cant remember making such ^^^ statement as above.

I had said: the teaching of the NT are made by christ apostles.

So, your statement above is another of your usual twisting that is not the truth/facts.

However, the writings of mark, luke(acts of the apostles) are reported history.

Mark = history/gosple of christ.
Luke(acts) = history of the apostles.

Both ^ are repoted history.

Whichever way you look at it, what i had stated is the simple truth.

Meanwhile, reading the acts of the apostle, you will get a testimony for those men and their activities in the early christian congregation, they were with the apostles and traveled with them and hence wrote wthat they saw.

Peace
Christianity EtcRe: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by truthislight: 11:27pm On Oct 25, 2013
Image123: i've explained this already. If i may add, nobody has the right to remove from God's Word or tell another christian not to teach from it.
I see, ^^

the day another person teach or open church and start doing animal sacrifice and you interject to say anything to the contrary, beware your statement today stand to judge you as a fraud.

Yes, "nobody has the right to remove from God's Word or tell another christian not to teach from it".

So, any christian has the right to ask for animal sacrifice and sin offering and "no one has the right to tell another christian not to teach from the bible" and do whatever he likes from it since it is contained in it..

Now we are seeing the dead contience that front as christians and shout "Rhema"! Every where.

Smh for your kind.
Christianity EtcRe: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by truthislight: 7:39pm On Oct 25, 2013
Candour: You see why your tithe mentors can't be trusted. In the book I mentioned, he stated that the principle works every time. Maybe he forgot what he wrote in the one I have. When was this one you're talking about published? The one I have was published in 1992. I'm sure this one you have is a more recent publication hence the revised promises.

Probably evidence has shown him that financial prosperity is not by tithing hence he has to remix it.

Anyway what about the devourer? Does it work all the time? Because Adeboye mentioned devourer can't be escaped. So what is your opinion on this?
grin

Good question!
Christianity EtcRe: The Deception Of Malachi 3:10-11 "Devourer" And "Storehouse" EXPOSED by truthislight: 7:30pm On Oct 25, 2013
Mark Miwerds: not really new at all. The truth that farmers were the only ones that were required to tithe has been taught since 1450 B.C..

Leviticus 27:30 (KJV) 30 And all the tithe of the land, [whether] of the seed of the land, [or] of the fruit of the tree, [is] the LORD'S: [it is] holy unto the LORD.

Leviticus 27:31 (KJV) 31 And if a man will at all redeem [ought] of his tithes, he shall add thereto the fifth [part] thereof.

Leviticus 27:32 (KJV) 32 And concerning the tithe of the herd, or of the flock, [even] of whatsoever passeth under the rod, the tenth shall be holy unto the LORD.

Leviticus 27:33 (KJV) 33 He shall not search whether it be good or bad, neither shall he change it: and if he change it at all, then both it and the change thereof shall be holy; it shall not be redeemed.

It may shock you to also find out that God further limited the tithe to only those who were descendants of Jacob.


Leviticus 27:34 (KJV) 34 These [are] the commandments, which the LORD commanded Moses for the children of Israel in mount Sinai.
grin
Christianity EtcRe: Why Do Churches Have Different Doctrines And Denominations? by truthislight:
italo: @ Ukuts gp,

Just to bring back my questions that.
When and where did God say that the book of Mark is inspired and the Acts of Peter is not?
Sal C: Answering these^^^ questions honestly will open many peoples' eyes.
Nope, Italos question is fales and decetful from its base.

The early christians of 1ce who lived with the apostles and who received those writings, mark, acts etc knew the writers and hence considers them as inspired. This were all done befor the end of 1ce, befor the word "chatholic" was used the first time in the 2ce, and this books where used for teaching by the 1st century christians.

It is note worthy that all the books of the NT used for teaching were writen by christ apostles, hence, colation of this apostolic writings was a straigth forward thing since none apostolic writings has no basis to be considered as inspired like that of the apostles.

The OT was fully complete befor the 1st ce, and was written exclusively by Yahweh prophet, Yahweh anointed kings. The livites. Qed.
All this writers are Jews.

So, anything done after 1ce has nothing to do with this unique collections of books that where there during the times of the apostles.

It is the Jews tradition to keep the writings of their prophets and anointed kings, and the NT writers are also Jews.

Did they wait for Canonisation befor keeping the books of the prophets of the OT ? No.

Why then will they have to wait for the canonisation of the writing of the Apostles for them to consider the apostolic writings as inspired befor collation ?

Why will the books written by Jews have to wait to be canonised by gentiles about 400yrs later ?

If you swallow Italos lies, you are gradually on your way to atheism.
Christianity EtcRe: Vatican Suspends 'Bishop Of Bling' by truthislight: 10:41pm On Oct 23, 2013
Pastor Kun: You go wait tire tongue
Are they not seeing this one below or they are looking for your trouble ?

Are this below not "grandiose" things ?

Enigma: Bergoglio is interesting. It is good to keep watching and to see how honest and well intended he is. For me I will like him to do a "Vatican III" (or Lateran whatever) and undo a lot of mad baggage in the Roman Catholic church denomination.

As to the matter at hand, yes individual catholic priests may not match the "Daddy G.O.s" of today but the Vatican itself and the "popes" (and even some bishops) historically are far far far above the level of the modern Daddy GOs.

Heck, even the "robes" and stuff are copied from what the emperors and "elites" of the Roman empire used to wear. Before we talk of the "titles" especially of the "pope" ---- some of those titles being essentially anti-Christ!

Here how one former Roman Catholic priest put it!

"How can anyone read Jesus' demands that his disciples shun titles of honor, and never suspect that, if Jesus considered the titles "Father" and "Teacher" objectionable, how much more would he object to the use of titles like "Monsignor" (which is French for "My Lord" ), "Your Excellency", "Your Eminence", "Your Holiness", "The Holy Father", "Supreme Pontiff", and perhaps most presumptuous of all, "Vicar of ( i.e. stand–in for ) Christ", the equivalent of "Vice–Messiah"!

How can Jesus possibly smile on popes wearing robes and crowns that even the most powerful leaders in today's world would find embarrassing in their pompous arrogance? The papal "tiara" isn't just a crown, it's three crowns in one! And is there a head of state anywhere in the twentieth century who had the arrogance to have eight mere mortals carry them about on a royal "sedia"? Did you know that in Pius XII's day, it was considered an exclusive privilege for cardinals to be allowed to kiss the pope's foot and hand? Mere archbishops only kissed the pope's foot and knee; and abbots only got to kiss the Holy Father's foot?
"

http://www.liberalslikechrist.org/Catholic/PopesvsChrist-1.html

undecided
Good one Enigma.

It is a "shameless luxury"
Christianity EtcRe: A Christian Drone Pilot Needed by truthislight: 5:59pm On Oct 23, 2013
^^^

smh. Let me reserve my comment yet.
Christianity EtcRe: Against The Trinity by truthislight: 1:08pm On Oct 23, 2013
hehehe, the guilty are afraid even when no one is chasing him. Hehehe.
Christianity EtcRe: "Daddy GO" of Atheism: My First Impressions by truthislight: 12:01pm On Oct 23, 2013
Logicboy03: My profile page is there...247 threads.....how many even contain the mention of Dawkins?
honeychild: May not contain his name. ....but I am finding that a great number of views I have heard you express are his.
Ask logic boy which of his profile ?

Logicboy 1, logicboy 2, logicboy 3, macdady 1, macdady 2 macdady 3 ? Etc etc. Which of his profilesssssss ?

When all of his profiles has been confirm as not mentioning Dowwwwwkkkkkkiiiiinnnnnnssss, we will belief him on his claims cool
Christianity EtcRe: Christianity And Drinking Of Wine by truthislight: 10:35pm On Oct 22, 2013
Goshen360: You don tire to follow systematic teaching but na link you dey tell us make we click. Why not tell us to click the Deuteronomy 14:26 starring in your face abi that one is not part of the all scriptures you often dey talk about or make we say no be God talk that one ni?

Abeg park for one side before you start dey fall hands. grin
if Image no direct us to "small book", he will direct us to "link" , its like he is tired of the bible, or the bible does not support his positions.

If image have conscience and the fear of God, he by now should have taken a stand for the truth and abandon fales tradition that is unsupported by the bible.

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