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Bidam: wrong! this is an error from Jw who think the Holy Spirit is a kind of active force..Jesus could have said,"when the Holy Spirit come". He kept repeating the word "he", however as if he wanted to make sure we knew the Holy Spirit is Not just a force or cloud.

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. (NIV)

Yes, when the spirit of truth "comes" it leads people or empowers people to stand in the truth.

When the spirit of satan comes, it will empower his followers to lie and do his(satan's) will.

benalvino: When you open dictionary to try to understand bible meaning then you will fail to understand... its shocking how I took my time distinguish spirit for you and now you came back to same palaba... the other day you also admit you know what it means... I gave you various examples and yet you come back to that palaba...

lie lie guy.

You mean that your "he" and "she" post you ascribed to the holy spirit and as such said that the holy spirit is a person ?

You were asked, "that Nigeria is called a she, does that make Nigeria a person" ?

What say you mr lie lie ?

Mr anony: I've ignored the rest because they are not relevant to the topic but I'll press you on this.

This is what the Trinity means in short form

1. God is One
2. The Father is God
3. The Son is God
4. The Holy Spirit is God
5. The Father is not the Son
6. The Father is not the Holy Spirit
7. The Son is not the Father
8. The Son is not the Holy Spirit
9. The Holy Spirit is not the Son
10. The Holy Spirit is not the Father
11. God is one being and three persons.


I challenge anyone to produce any bible verse/verses that refutes the above statements.

It is an absolute waste of time to duel on that ^ rubbish.

Mr anony: Try this instead: Doctrine of Tithes - The principle of giving

So, you too ?

You collect Tithe ?

I hope your means of lively hood is not from tithing also ?

No wander you dont come near tithing thread.

I will save this post for future reference

Mr anony: I am yet to see a single bible verse that proves that God is not Trinity

frosbel: @Anony

You must be living in Lala Land then

lol
You notice it also?

Mr anony: I am yet to see a single bible verse that proves that God is not Trinity

Lol.



why are you deliberately doing this to yourself ?



smh.

We leave that to other readers to read and deduce how honest a person your are.

benalvino: are you reasoning with your head?

hi LIAR!

How far ?

benalvino: again you don't get my point... if someone call his son Yahweh today... does it make him the YAHWEH or it makes him a Yahweh?

No! no! no!!!

Show us another person that bears the name Yahweh. Simple.

If not, you are a liar and remain a liar and i will henceforth address you as A LIAR. Simple.

ijawkid: Abeg show me another person for the scriptures wey answer Yahweh....abeg just show me.......

He talks like a very Good liar.

benalvino: some people name na Yahweh.... it wasn't only jesus that go by the name in bible... so this your point is void. he said before him there was no god formed or created.

Is that ^ a truth or a lie ?

Can you show us where some one bears the name Jehovah or Yahweh accept The one that Yahweh authorised to bear his name ?

If you cannot, then please, stop lying on this thread.

benalvino: then how do you interpret john 1:1
the word was another god? a god?

"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6).

frosbel: The Trinity is not in scripture period.

It is a formulated and deviously crafted doctrine , which uses a few random, misquoted and often mistranslated scripture verses , to lend support to a most fallacious , blasphemous and unbiblical foreign pagan concept.

God has been denied his Personality and has been made to be 3 people on ONE , despite the following verses of scriptrue :

“In my vision at night I looked, and there before me was one like a son of man,[a] coming with the clouds of heaven. He approached the Ancient of Days and was led into his presence. - Daniel 7 :13

"there is no one like Yahweh our God." Exodus 8:10

"Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [echad]!" Deuteronomy 6:4

"You alone, Lord, are God." Isaiah 37:20

""The foremost is, 'Hear, O Israel! The Lord our God is one Lord; " Mark 12:29

"yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one [hen] Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him." 1 Corinthians 8:6

"For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus," 1 Timothy 2:5

"You believe that God is one. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder." James 2:19

Trinitarian dont wish to accept this clear obvious truth

twosquare: Make e no make sense to u,since u want ur own tin....is shell nt part of an egg? When saying egg...do u refer 2 just d yolk? Hw unwise is it 2 go 2 a market, saying I want 2 buy albumen.....or yolk or even shell. Yet u say egg, won't u remove d covering b4 u start 2 eat? Is d shell nt part of wat we refer 2 as Egg?it is a common name dat both d Shell, Albumen,and Yolk bears...3 in one.c'est finis.

i say not egg but yam.

ijawkid: I think WATER the solid should be the head of all the waters..........smh!!!!!!!..........

I thing Yam should be:

we have boil yam
fried yam
roasted yam

daz all! >>> God head.

Enigma: Not only that; God the Father Himself called Jesus God!

Hebrews 1:8 --- But about the Son he says, "Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom.

So yes, Christians have no problems to call Jesus ---- God the Son.

Lol.

Oga sir, how far ?

Long time no see.

Hope all is well ?

Its been long i set my eyes on ya.

shdemidemi: Only if they can understand this truth.

You called a lie "truth" ?

Smh for you all.

Bidam: I hope you don't have cataracts let me repeat what i said in bold letters.
"FATHER REFERS TO GOD'S BEING THE SOURCE FROM WHICH JESUS WAS SENT" and that is why Jesus called Him Father..and not the logic you guys are applying in relation to a human father or in the sense that someone is greater or older. God is not "older" than Jesus Christ. If you can't comprehend this truth i am sorry i can't help you.

The place that Jesus came from is not a "father" but a "mother", so, the father is different :

"For this Agar is mount Sinai in Arabia, and answereth to Jerusalem which now is, and is in bondage with her children. But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all." (Galatians 4:25-26).
.............

Learn to say the truth always.

frosbel: How can a Person who was begotten be eternal ?

Do you understand what the words begotten and eternal mean ?

Their only interest is what tradition says and not what the bible says.

They read with the glasses of tradition.

Bidam: The problem with these guys is their inability to discern spiritual truth.

And what is the truth ?

Why is the source "father" and not the "mother" ?

Pastor Olu T: I try to imagine where this is coming from and just cant process it,

lol, what a cheap way to hide your head.



sorry! You cant, your head is dip right inside.

Pastor Olu T: God save your soul.

You really need it my friend.

[quote author=From_Guiriga]The kings of Israel were called Gods.
Satan is called God.
Your stomach can be your God.
Jesus was called God true. Yahweh said his Glory he will not share with ANYONE.
So is Yahweh the father of Jesus then? Because in his own words Yahweh does not recognize ANY other God.
What are your thoughts on the above.

Give thanks.
[/quote]There word God/lord is a title.

JeSoul: https://www.nairaland.com/1122902/cook-kitchen-take-pictures-post/19#14988563

beautiful thread i say.

benalvino: Since those angels materialize... God curse them and take that ability from them... after the flood there was no materialization what so ever...

no need to drag me back we have gone pass all this... reread the thread you will see.

My friend, i give answers to post so that whomever it may concern can read.

Its an open forum.

benalvino: I thought he told them he is not a spirit? you just said he didn't lie when he said he is not a spirit then you go ahead and say he is a spirit... Go and write your own Gospel.

you refused to get the sense of what i am saying, then sorry.

I mean, what Jesus said is that, he told his disciples to see, he is not an apparition/ghost but him the christ.

The real him.

That he can be felt just like the angels of old where felt and touched.

chukkynwob: 27 pages of back and rallying,the real question is what do you all hope to achieve.

Both camps are dogmatic in their beliefs,oh I get a way to pass time?


As for me I believe in the God the Father,God the Son and God the Holyspirit.The Holy Trinity.


The fact is that atheists sometimes make more sense while arguing than we christians.

That you believe in it then makes it right abi ?

benalvino: you like excuse first you say God power cant pass through walls... for your excuse now you looking for more. his you cant prove Jesus body was dispose you cant prove many things yet you are asking me to Give u example of passing through walls. spirit don't have Body simple... Bible talks about our Glorified body.

Glorify! glorify!! glorify!!!

What exactly is a glorify body ?

Is it exactly the same with this body that me and you have right now ?

Please explain.

Mr anony: You miss my argument. I am saying that those two persons are one God. I am also saying that Jesus Christ refered to Himself as Alpha and Omega. I can also show you more things from the book of Revelations

You may be a lost case.

Mr anony: I also know that Jesus rose from the dead in a human body.

There are human (flesh, blood, and bone) in heaven.

You must be on Jamaican weed

Mr anony: Did Jesus Christ ever stop existing? No He didn't.

That ^ is one of the most foolish statemet i ever red in this forum In a very long time



Guy, welcome back to NL. Lol

Why did he need God to resurrect him ?

Mr anony: When someone insists on staying blind, allow him. I was really surprised at that answer especially the "no bones" argument. Funny enough his J.W. brother (truthislight) made the exact same argument. . . . it's like that's what they feed them at their kingdom hall.

But, you are the one that is reading like a blind man here.

B)

Mr anony: Pardon me but this is quite a silly answer. consider Genesis 2:23

.....Then Adam said, This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of a man.

Since blood was also not mentioned here, does this mean Adam and Eve were without blood too?

Are you so low in the bible knowledge and physical constitution of man ?

I had asked a very simple question, if earthly person are also flesh and bone like it is said he is flesh and bone(no blood).

You went and posted this:

Mr anony: .....Then Adam said, This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of a man.

what nonsense!

Did you not read that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven ?

"There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another." (1 Corinthians 15:40).

"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption." (1 Corinthians 15:50).
...............

Are you so low or you think you are in your church where you tell people whateve you like.

Read ^ now and upgrade from the bible, but, slowly this time.

Is the statement flesh and bone and flesh and blood the same thing ?

If you cannot answer a very simple question then keep silent if you have no reasonable thing to post, it is not by force that you should post.

Does Adam saying This is "the flesh of my flesh and bone of my bone means he had no blood ? No.

We know Adam has blood.

But the bible said, flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God(heaven).

Cant you read properly ?
*sigh*