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Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 7:31pm On Jun 08, 2013
Mr anony: Bros the story never finish o. Open your bible and read about the Lamb in Revelations you go shock. That's what I'm doing right now and it is blowing my mind
cool

You can be this funny right ?

Is that ^ under debate ?
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 7:27pm On Jun 08, 2013
Guy liar, how far ?

benalvino: In the very next verse we read of the Alpha and Omega, Jehovah God, who is also spoken of as “coming.”

"I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says Jehovah God, 'the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.'" (Rev. 1:cool

we know it is jesus that is coming isn't it? are there 2 alpha and omega? more sand sand!!!
When Jesus finish giving his message to John in revelation 22 ending, he told hm, "I am coming quickly".

He Jesus is the one that will come first as in Revelation 19:11.

"And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war. His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself. And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God." (Revelation 19:11-13).

benalvino: "I am the Alpha and the Omega,' says Jehovah God, 'the One who is and who was and who is coming, the Almighty.'" (Rev. 1:cool

we know it is jesus that is coming isn't it? are there 2 alpha and omega? more sand sand!!!
But when the Alpha and Omega is concern, it is Yahweh.

It was Yahweh that abandoned Adam in Genesis for death to enter the world, it is Yahweh that comes back to man after Jesus reconciliatary work and 1000yrs rule, when he hands over to Yahweh:

"And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." (Revelation 21:2-4).
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There is on the one hand, the coming of Jesus and in the other hand, the coming of Yahweh.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 6:59pm On Jun 08, 2013
Mr anony: Lololol, so you have now agreed that both Jesus and Yahweh have borne the same title El Gibbor i.e. Mighty God after trying to dance around all day?

We both know El simply means God. it is now up to you tou show how Christ is not God after being specifically called God and also Everlasting Father, as well as Counselor in your bible.

For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:6

Basically, Isaiah 9:6 talks about a Mighty God that exists for all eternity. Yet Ijawkid says that the everlasting God Jesus Christ is not God. Continue fighting against your bible
This ^ argument is null since the title God/god is not being debated.

But whether Jesus i Yahweh.

Ah! cheesy

you guys are pushing two kinds of trinity.

Anony says Jesus is not Yahweh, while Benalvino(the liar) says Jesus is Yahweh. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 11:57am On Jun 08, 2013
alexleo: Keep quiet. You called me a boy because you thought am a boy. And you know that's where my reply to you headed but now you have carried your evil spirit of falsehood to give false reply to what I told u. Its a pity how you people operate. As long as you people are in a mad display of false teachings here I will not stop kicking you. Teach the truth and stop deceiving souls into eternal damnation with your idiotic and satanic teaching. This issue of heaven and hell is one issue I won't take kindly with you people. Other thread you people open here do you see me come there to kick you this way? You can't be toying with people's eternal destiny and I keep quiet. Get thee behind me satan.
But "hell" is not a Jewish/Hebrew word, how do you come to know and use that word ?

"you worship what you do not know, we know what we worship: for salvation originate with the Jews. " (John 4:22).
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That word hell and its idea is from pegan latin and not Jewish.
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 11:50am On Jun 08, 2013
alexleo: A satanic teacher calling somebody hypochrite. Because am against your stu.pid teaching. You want me to support you. I can never support satan and his cohorts. I ll always kick against you agents of devil. Have u forgotten your life jacket that saves you from shame or are you tired of that one?
Why not use the word of God ^ ?

Cant you ?

If you cant, what makes you think you are right ?


"Neither do men light a candle, and put it under a bushel, but on a candlestick; and it giveth light unto all that are in the house. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven." (Matthew 5:15-16).
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 11:40am On Jun 08, 2013
DrummaBoy: Well, truth is we all must make room for ourselves on this forum and not allow insults, curses and name calling derail thread discuss. I know dispute get so bad that some people resort to name calling to vent their frustration, the old doctrine of restraint or self-control should come in handy in times like that. And it is not just Alex alone that is guilty of it; we all are. I drew Pastor Kun's attention to this yesterday. Now how do we adorn the doctrines we so passionately support, when we curse and insult and malign, as if we are on the politics section.

So I call everyone on each side of the divide to pls exercise restraint. Let us discuss like matured people. I may not agree with Bidam on many issues but I give him this credit that he hardly insults anyone on the forum.

So use of words like satan, false prophets, stu-pid, idiot, etc, should not be found among those of us who profess religion
Did you say those on red ?

I laugh in ten languages.

It is true you may be really new around here. shocked smiley
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 11:15am On Jun 08, 2013
alexleo: Jesus that you have twisted his words with your hopeless and stu.pid teaching and you think he will be proud of you? When you are deceiving people into eternal damnatiin? Stop making noise and get thee behind me satan.
"by their fruit you will know them. Do men gather grapes from thorns, or figs from thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. " (Matthew 7:16-18).
Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 8:03am On Jun 08, 2013
Mr anony: And I say Amen! you have agreed with statement 1 but it does not contradict any of the statements I made.
Lol.

Who determines what contradicts what and does not contradict ? You ? Lol.

Guy, you funny die.

Keep deluding yourself.

*sigh*
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 11:23am On Jun 07, 2013
alexleo: I use edifying language for children of God and not for hopeless and false teachers like you.
With the same mouth you praise God with the same mouth you curse?

Jesus will be very proud of you. smiley
Christianity EtcRe: Man - A Three Dimesional Being by truthislight: 8:31am On Jun 07, 2013
honeychild: double post
You can erased one if you wish.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 10:44pm On Jun 06, 2013
Mr liar

benalvino: dumb question...
even if he knew he wont say. easy as that... bible says no one will know when the time comes it will be like a thief in the night.
is that ^ what the bible says or you are doing what you know best ?

Well, it says "only the father" knows.

Stop lying.

cool
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 7:53pm On Jun 06, 2013
Guy liar.

benalvino: lol if you tell him that an atheist can call his daughter or son Yahweh him lack of reasoning go make am call you liar...
the guy just come here to tannish his credibility
why not do the needful ? Show us those that bear the name Yahweh ?

Who cares about your reputation talk ?

Prove your claims, simple!

If you dont, you remain a liar, chikena!
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 7:48pm On Jun 06, 2013
Mr anony: You get time dey answer truthislight. Ask him to show us in the bible where it is said that Jesus and Yahweh are persons without deducting from pronouns like "him" and "he". Who knows maybe Jesus and Yahweh are also forces. . . . .or countries like Israel

grin grin grin
Lol.

grin

i dont think that those ^ need debating.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 7:36pm On Jun 06, 2013
Mr anony: Lol, you too Please show us where the bible calls Jehovah a person without resorting to deducting from a "he" and "the".

When you are in a hole please stop digging. The more you make irrational demands, the more they come back to bite you
Lol.

I cant believe you asked that ^ .

There are so many instances that Yahweh is called a person!

I cant believe you asked this ?

We have Jesus appearing befor the "person" of God to present the value of the ransom sacrifice.

Infact, i give up, what!
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 6:39pm On Jun 06, 2013
benalvino: hahaha you just prove my point that your brain is incapable of understanding what any of us are saying...
and yes anyone can call his kid whatever name he likes... if you don't see the logic or possibility in that... then you have serious problem... if you like call me liar from now to tomorrow it wont change what is fact I just said.
Guy liar.

Please show me those people that also answer the Name Yahweh/Jehovah like you said there are.

cool
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 6:34pm On Jun 06, 2013
Bidam: Oh! ofcos i forgot you hardly read the bible
Why not show me where the bible calls the holy spirit a person without resorting to deducting from a "he" and "the" but like it is done for Jesus and Yahweh ?

Please do, you that reads the bible.
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 6:29pm On Jun 06, 2013
This is a very funny thread, "christian" simply using threat.

Lol. grin
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 6:10pm On Jun 06, 2013
frosbel: Okay , if this is the way you feel, I accept your plea and retract my statement.

But one question :

If the dead are alive what is the purpose of the resurrection.
Lol. I saw that post na!

Ok o!

If he says that was wrong why shoud i complain ?
Christianity EtcRe: The Prophets Of Hell by truthislight: 6:04pm On Jun 06, 2013
frosbel: You are in love with this excerpt , no ?

The very foundation of the church was laid on the reality of the existence of hell.

Remember when you said in another article that the resurrection had already happened and went on to add that the rest was a formality.
That ^ is true.

He had said on that thread that the resurrection has already taken place.

Kai! Bidam. grin
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 3:59pm On Jun 06, 2013
JeSoul: Come and join us anytime dear smiley
Thank you dear for the invite.

I may do that one of this days. kiss
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 3:54pm On Jun 06, 2013
Bidam: But scripture actually told us plainly that he(holy spirit) is a person."He is called the Spirit of truth". Remember?
No, i dont remember.
cool
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 3:47pm On Jun 06, 2013
Guy liar.

benalvino: you they follow someone(truthislight) that cant reason talk... One of jay-z's music he said lord mc me jehovah does it mean the Jehovah in the bible?

Jay-z don't believe in God... Once he says whats a God to a non believe? He can say anything he likes About any Religion call his children any name he likes all we have to do is wait for the day he will be Judged.

I said atheist can call their children any name they like and yet his brain cant comprehend instead he uses is weak argument by calling me a liar...
just because your brain is too weak to understand doesn't make someone a liar. you suppose to be arguing with children of 8 to 12 years... that's your brain capacity at the moment.
Hi guy liar.

Do you learn from Jay z ?

you are lying even the more.

You clearly said that others can bear the name Yahweh.

Have you forgotten or you are just doing what you do best.

You should not forget that you dont even believe in the name Jehovah/Yahweh.

cool.

Have i lied against you ? No.

I cannot even sweat for your type.

I tell people who they are, and for you, you are a liar.

cool

i did not send you to lie.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 3:09pm On Jun 06, 2013
Bidam: Ok if you accept Jesus as God, Why are you still arguing about His divinity na huh
I said he is not Yahweh.

The holy spirit is not a person because the bible did not say that the holy spirit is a person as it says of Yahweh and Jesus.

"Do not go beyond what is written"

NIV/ESV/
Now brothers, these things i have transferred so as to apply to myself and apollos for your good, that in our case you may learn the (rule): "Do not go beyond the things that are written" ...................
(1cor4:6)
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 3:04pm On Jun 06, 2013
Guy liar.

benalvino: I would have responded if you are matured enough... but you lost all your credibility...
So go play somewhere am busy
Can you now show to us the other people that also answer Yahweh or Jehovah like you had said earlier ?

You can lie so easily and openly, how can others take you seriousely and think you have a conscience ?

Many people reading may have taken you for a honest fellow with conscience not knowing better but taking all your post for truth not knowing how decietfully a liar you are.

The truth is, but for Yahweh revealing himself to the Jews, no other nation knew about him and cannot ever come to know that name.

The Jews are even afraid of that name let alone use it to call their children as a name > Yahweh.

How than did you arrived at what you said ? huh

But you, a lying deceitful no conscience no gooder without the fear of God with desperation for a debate will say all sort of lies to project your lies and still carry a straith face.

Are you now ready to show us the other persons that bears the name Yahweh ?

If not, you remain a liar without the fear or respect for Yahweh.

"You are from your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abide not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks the lie, he speaks according to his own disposition for he is a liar, and the father of the lie. " (John 8:44).
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 2:30pm On Jun 06, 2013
Hi guy liar.

benalvino: let him worship more than one God even as one of the 10 command forbids it...
let him turn to other gods for salvation as the bible forbids it too...
let him call everyone liar... Like how he said Jesus was a liar when he says he is not a spirit...
let him display a fair amount of immaturity to us... that way he will be taken serious he may think so...
there is nothing in the bible he believe... but he believes what is on the magazine... their spiritual food... if bible says Jesus is A and the magazine says no Jesus is B... you know the one he will believe.
truthislight that is how the light get lighter and lighter... that word which is not found in the bible is use to cover the ass of the people who feed you the spiritual food when the truth suddenly become a lie later the lie turns back to truth later lie again... its called flip flop...
"For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace." (Isaiah 9:6).

it is wrong to accused one FALSELY.

The bible said that the son will be called mighty God and not me. wink
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 2:24pm On Jun 06, 2013
Mr anony: "But from now on, the Son of Man will be seated at the right hand of the mighty God". (Luke 22:69)

The more you fight against Truth, the more it stares you in the face
Mighty God means Powerful God.

Even satan has power.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 2:17pm On Jun 06, 2013
Guy liar.

How far ?
benalvino: When mary call the father mighty God what does it mean?
Mighty God means powerful God.

cool
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 2:14pm On Jun 06, 2013
Mr anony: Don't mind him, no be today me and the guy begin argue I know Ijawkid's style:

1. When he sees a verse, first thing he does is search the internet for a bible version that renders it vaguely so that he can latch on to it. It is normal to see Ijawkid swinging from KJV to NIV to NLT to RSV and back to KJV. The funny thing is that if you quote KJV and he is quoting NIV then KJV is wrong. If you are quoting NIV and he is on KJV, then NIV is wrong. In Ijawkid's universe, only the version he quotes renders the verse correctly

2. If Ijawkid has searched the scripture and cannot find a vague translation, he'll do another search of the bible and find a verse that is completely unrelated to the context of the verse you provided for instance if you tell him that the Holy Ghost is a person because He speaks, he'll tell you that blood also speaks completely ignoring the context.

3. If that fails, Ijawkid will demand that you provide something that is not in the bible to back up what you have already showed him in the bible. For example if you show him where the bible clearly says that the Holy Spirit came from heaven, he'll ask you to show him where the Holy Spirit is in heaven conveniently forgetting that you have just shown him that the Holy Spirit came from hean.

4. Where that fails, he will start making infantile arguments involving God's mouth, eyes, and nose

5. If that fails, he'll ask you the same question ten times that you have already answered ten times before. For example after you have told him that "the Son is not the Father". He will continue asking you over and over again if the Son is the Father.

6. When all his objections fail, he will tell you that the bible is not correct and that what the bible said is not what the bible said. for instance; "the Word was God" does not mean that "the Word was God".

7. When you point out that that is a silly contradiction on his part, he'll tell you that what you are saying makes no sense. . .and so the cycle continues for 40 pages and counting
Who has been the one marking statement that contradicts the bible here ? Is it IJawkid that said Jesus did not die etc ? No.

You are the one going Against the scriptures but wishes to maligned IJawkid now.

All Ijawkid has been doing is to set the record straith as to avoid contradicting the bible.

That is why you fit the "serpent" himself.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight:
Mr liar.

benalvino: Yeah son of God.
But is He God?
When you come to know that the word "God" is a title that can be attained by even human and stones and satan then you will come to know that Jesus is also a very big spirit person that have attained that title > "God", Infact, a very powerful one at that,(mighty God). He Jesus is more powerful than the god satan.

(remember that there were no capital letters, upper and lower case alphabet in Hebrew writings)

However, the all and all is no one else than YAHWEH >>>>>>> THE ALMIGHTY GOD(most powerful, the GOD that has all the power).

The God that gave Jesus Christ power after his baptism.

The God that Jesus said he will beg to send his power to the disciples.

He told them: "you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be disciple of me in all Judea and to the most distant part of the earth"


The King of ETERNITY is YAHWEH.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight: 1:17pm On Jun 06, 2013
Enigma: Oga truthislight, I dey oh! Just taking things easy a little.

Thanks and trust ya side too dey fine. smiley
Am well.

After that your seriouse exposition on bible cannon which took a lot of steam from you, yea! You needed a break.

Good to see you again.
Peace though.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinity: Why Is It Easier To Call Jesus God And Not The Holy Spirit by truthislight:
Mr anony: I wonder how someone can blaspheme against a force.
It means if you deliberately blaspheme against the action of God, u will not be forgiven, since there is no one that can help you except the God whose action you had opposed.

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