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Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 2:20pm On Jun 14, 2013
Mr anony: Honestly, I don't really know what it is you are talking about. If you want a definition of Trinity, it is right there in the OP
Is the one in the op the only one there is ?

If there are other variance, whose should we take to be the right one ?

Dont forget, you had said the variant that frosbel posted on this thread is not the right one.
Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 2:00pm On Jun 14, 2013
Mr anony: I am saying that the 3 persons are 1 God NOT "Gods". Try to get it right first.
Absurdity!

How can three (3) "persons" be one God ?

This thing some times wants to make me to shade tears. Smh.
Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 1:16pm On Jun 14, 2013
Mr anony: Interesting. Now this is all I will ask you to do. Imagine I said these as a child of God: Tell me which of the following statements amounts to blasphemy.

1. The words I say to you I do not speak on my own authority. Rather, it is God, living in me, who is doing his work.
2. Believe me when I say that I am in God and God is in me
3. whoever believes in ME will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to God
4. And I will do whatever you ask in MY NAME, so that God may be glorified in ME
5. You may ask ME for anything in MY NAME, and I will do it.

If you are honest, you probably won't have a problem with statement 1 & 2, You may start getting concerned at statement 3. And you will definitely stone me for blasphemy by statement 4 & 5. Only God has the power to make those statements. It is either Christ is indeed God or He is the worst blasphemer that ever lived. He doesn't leave you any other option.
Very funny.

See:

"After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. " (Matthew 6:9).


Mr anony: 5. You may ask ME for anything in MY NAME, and I will do it.
^
that is why we end prayer "in Jesus name", Amen.

Jesus is the mediator, you go to the father via Jesus name.

You of all person should know this.

(trinity has a way of blocking peoples perception)
Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 12:47pm On Jun 14, 2013
shdemidemi: @Anony

Of course, you are slightly right with what you put there. It will be very wrong to say God the father, God the son and God the Spirit(that makes it three Gods). Rather, the bible says we have one God the father, the son and the Spirit.

Try to use the scriptures to back your opinion when answering questions, so you don't end up leaning on your own understanding. You can be logically right but scripturally wrong at a time. Thank you
That ^ is what i am saying, there are so many versions of trinity, who then is right who then is wrong ?

huh
Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 12:13pm On Jun 14, 2013
frosbel: 3 gods.

https://xf1.xanga.com/fb3c226ad1333168087102/z127295666.jpg
Mr anony: This is NOT what the Trinity is?
what and who defines what the Trinity Is then, since it is that the word is not found in the bible and the adherents are giving us divers definitions of what trinity is.

We have more than two explanations of trinity flying around in this forum.

Why should your own version be the right one ?
Christianity EtcRe: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by truthislight: 10:41am On Jun 14, 2013
benalvino: You haven't heard about the word incarnation? I assume by your explanation you are saying he was a man in heaven before he created everything? Laughing my arss out
deSika: i also asked whether your definition included thieves and prostitutes. Son of God just denotes a peculiar relationship with God. There is no relationship between light and darkness.
my friend thats dual nature for you. Being a man in the sense of following all the rules that govern humanhood. Being a spirit being/GOD in the sense of existing from time immemorial. Ability to give life etc.
That ^ made no sense to me.

If Jesus was a spirit he would not have been able to pay for the ransom.

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin." (Hebrews 9:22).


"There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another." (1 Corinthians 15:40).


"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption." (1 Corinthians 15:50).

Spirit ^ dont have blood.

(i dont want to call you name, hence, be a honest person)
Christianity EtcRe: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by truthislight: 10:36am On Jun 14, 2013
deSika: hey bro relax, lets do some maths. Shall we

the clue is there for you.
If 'his image' (one persons image) = 'our image' (more than one persons image). It therefore means that the more than one persons have same image and not different images. Do you get that

the God that made that statement is recorded in the bible as ELOHIM (the plural form of God).

My point is this.
The words 'let us' and 'our' gives us a very LOUD indication that there is a 'more than one' ness about God. You cannot just wish it away, you cannot deny it either.

And take note that angels can not be part of the 'let us' equation. As they cannot create and as such cannot be beckoned on to do what they cannot do.

Does that help you.... You are welcome.
Jesus christ was there, Yahweh was there, just the two of them can say, "let us make man in our own image". Simple!

I dont know why you guys raise dust where there is no dust.
Christianity EtcRe: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by truthislight: 10:30am On Jun 14, 2013
deSika: Questions yet unanswered, bro Ijawkid, truthislight, Boomark, Frosbel, honeychild etc
The word god is a title, remember, there was no capitalisation in Hebrew and greek letters.

If stones and satan is called "god" in the bible, how much more Jesus christ .

See:

"He heweth him down cedars, and taketh the cypress and the oak, which he strengtheneth for himself among the trees of the forest: he planteth an ash, and the rain doth nourish it. Then shall it be for a man to burn: for he will take thereof, and warm himself; yea, he kindleth it, and baketh bread; yea, he maketh a god, and worshippeth it; he maketh it a graven image, and falleth down thereto." (Isaiah 44:14-15).
................

The word God is a name that is given to anything that receives worship/worshipful honor.

So, when talking about God/gods, Jesus christ that Yahweh has elevated is a "mighty God". Isaiah 9:6.
Christianity EtcRe: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by truthislight: 10:17am On Jun 14, 2013
deSika: i must applaud your dodgentiantis. One minute your likes would be asking where does the bible call Jesus God but when you are shown you resort to "The scriptures call all of us GOD"

Jesus is involved in creation (an exclusive ability of God, no man can create life) and then called God and you Ijawkid has the guts to equate him with man that cannot create life.

The truth is staring at your face, bro i dont know why you keep denying it.

Did you see 'mighty' in Isaiah 9:6. Does it not make a difference to you. Or will you now say "The scriptures calls all of us mighty GOD too"

Isaiah even adds more sand to your garri. Did you see the word 'everlasting father '. What! Everlasting what! Bro Ijawkid pls can you confirm whether what am seeing is in your bible. It seems my eyes are playing tricks on me. How many fathers do we have. JESUS, the everlasting Father. What about God the father. Mbok Ijawkid i need some help.

Acts 20:28 is now wrong abi, its no longer a translation problem its now the text itself that is wrong kwo.

Thats the truth stirring at your face. All the translations say the same thing 'his blood' . JESUS is the God who used his blood to buy the church. Thats what the verse is saying.

Question again is why does the bible call Jesus a mighty God, everlasting father and yet You Ijawkid and Frosbel refuse to call him that. Why
"And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name JEHOVAH was I not known to them." (Exodus 6:3)
Christianity EtcRe: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by truthislight: 10:10am On Jun 14, 2013
deSika: truth is what you call a lie. Hebrews 1:8, micah 4:2 ...whose going forth have been from the old from everlasting
has he not always been predestined to do all he did. Or was he just any other person who just became lucky to be anointed, and as such started doing powerful things. The anointing part is just a confirmation of what has already been pre planned no my friend, you are wrong. Angels cannot create so they cant be called to do what they cant do.
question already answered. The difference is the 'creation ability' of the parties involved which means they just have to be God
People will always come up with notion to buttress whatever they want to believe.

The bible says that Jesus was there, God (Yahweh) was there and angels were there:


"Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth?
declare, if thou hast understanding. Who hath laid the measures thereof, if thou knowest? or who hath stretched the line upon it? Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof; When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?" (Job 38:4-7).
..............

Keep believing what that makes you happy.
Christianity EtcRe: For Frosbel, Ijawkid And Other Non Trinitarians by truthislight: 9:57am On Jun 14, 2013
deSika: i also asked whether your definition included thieves and prostitutes. Son of God just denotes a peculiar relationship with God. There is no relationship between light and darkness.
my friend thats dual nature for you. Being a man in the sense of following all the rules that govern humanhood. Being a spirit being/GOD in the sense of existing from time immemorial. Ability to give life etc.
That ^ made no sense to me.

If Jesus was a spirit he would not have been able to pay for the ransom.

"And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sin." (Hebrews 9:22).


"There are also celestial bodies, and bodies terrestrial: but the glory of the celestial is one, and the glory of the terrestrial is another." (1 Corinthians 15:40).


"Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption." (1 Corinthians 15:50).

Spirit ^ dont have blood.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinitarian Disrespect For God by truthislight: 9:40am On Jun 14, 2013
Bidam: can a servant not be like his master? stop dodging the question.
A servant can be like his master but not the master.

Note. "be like", not, "is the master".

Peace.
Christianity EtcRe: Trinitarian Disrespect For God by truthislight: 9:35am On Jun 14, 2013
ijawkid: Read well......the apostles still called Jesus Gods servant well after his ascension......
1000 likes
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe not working , please help by truthislight: 9:30am On Jun 14, 2013
Joagbaje: Tithing is not a work of the law it's a work of faith.
Fasting is not a work of the law ,It's a work
Prayer is not a work of the law ,it's a work of faith.
Offering giving is not a irk of the law ,it's a work of faith ,
Alms giving is not a work of the law ,it's a work of faith,
worshipping God it's not a work of the law it's a work of faith .

Let tithing debate end . Lets go and win souls . And plant trees or righteousness in Gods kingdom.
The debate should end but tithing should continue! Smh.

Btw, which kingdom ? Properity kingdom ?

Which gospel did you get material properity preaching from ?
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe not working , please help by truthislight: 9:24am On Jun 14, 2013
oiseworld: if you dont want to pay tithe fine.no whahala. thats for you and God. Just dont claim you can give tithe to someone else.
Dont give alms and call it paying of tithe. Tithe is a tenth of your earning that you take to the house of God, period !

For me, its become a doctrine am never going to let go. i feel more belong in the family of God when i pay tithe.

You Just keep twisting the scriptures to suit your greed.
Its not likely you pay tithes, rather, you receive tithes.

Go get a Job and stop sounding desperate.
Christianity EtcRe: Tithe not working , please help by truthislight: 9:17am On Jun 14, 2013
nep2ra: ^^^ Thirded

MASSIVE FAIL
Fourth FAIL!
Christianity EtcRe: Is Blood Transfusion A Sin? by truthislight: 9:14am On Jun 14, 2013
shdemidemi: 1 Timothy 4

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Is blood food ?
Christianity EtcRe: Is Blood Transfusion A Sin? by truthislight: 9:11am On Jun 14, 2013
shdemidemi: 1 Timothy 4

Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, 2 speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, 3 forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be refused if it is received with thanksgiving; 5 for it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Blood Transfusion A Sin? by truthislight: 9:06am On Jun 14, 2013
frosbel: No.
Christianity EtcRe: Is Blood Transfusion A Sin? by truthislight: 9:04am On Jun 14, 2013
Am i missing something ?

To Noah:

1. "But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat." (Genesis 9:4).

To the nation of Israel:

2. "Moreover ye shall eat no manner of blood, whether it be of fowl or of beast, in any of your dwellings." (Leviticus 7:26).

"For it is the life of "all" flesh; the
blood
of it is for the life thereof: therefore I said unto the children of Israel,
Ye shall eat the blood of no manner of flesh:
for the life of all flesh is the blood thereof:
whosoever eateth Blood shall be cut off."
(Leviticus 17:14).


To christians again:

3. "For it seemed good to the Holy Spirit, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from "blood", and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well." (Acts 15:28-29).


Smh.

Who is then faithful to the word ?
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 12:02am On Jun 14, 2013
Uyi Iredia: I wonder if the mods consider that. There was a time I used to post like this:

Logicboy >>> quit talking about Anonynyzing >>> it's really annoying.

DeepSight complained I was being like a robot. I think I'll revert back to it for a while.
Well, even though it is not openly expressed by the majority, the truth remains that we naturally like it deep down in us as humans when one keeps it cordial as much as possible.
Christianity EtcRe: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by truthislight: 3:09pm On Jun 13, 2013
guy liar.

benalvino: haha leave him he is butt hurt... he cant debate so he switch to insult strategy like I give a rat ass... I don't even care. I will him help him insult me.
You really belief that Jesus will not care when you belittles Yahweh right ?

cool

Smh. That is what a dead conscience causes.
Christianity EtcRe: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by truthislight: 3:05pm On Jun 13, 2013
true2god: Take it easy man even non-xtains cannot act this way.
It is even the atheist that calls and insult Yahweh here and belittles him.
Should that also come from the person you call a "christian" ?
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 2:57pm On Jun 13, 2013
[quote author=outc*st]Okay, okay...

I promised JeSoul and muskeeto that I will let it go, so now I am letting it go.

I apologise sincerely to all I have referred to as 'Olodo' and I will try not to call anyone Olodo again...***But how do I describe all those unintelligent posts from LB?***

If I see an unintelligent post I will think of a well prepared Banga soup with starch...hopefully this will make me think that the OP or post was well prepared.[/quote][quote author=outc*st]I totally understand where you are coming from, considering that you are a full time beneficiary of 'Olodoism'...anyways since I have sdecided not to call anyone by that pretty name, I am left with you are [size=15pt]very silly[/size].

If someone must correct me. let it NOT be you...one look at you and the spelling of the word TROLL comes to mind. I got the following from the first page of your profile:














God knows what's on the second page...[/quote]cool

Smh.

Let it go just as you had said
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 2:46pm On Jun 13, 2013
Logicboy03: I'm Anonynizing...I'm feeling the groove...Anonynizing


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiNRP_GfSyw
*clears eyes and ears and listened to the music singing Nonilizing*

grin

I cant belief i just listened to that!

Lol.

NL Ona no go kill person with laugh.

grin
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 2:23pm On Jun 13, 2013
Mr anony: @manmuswac
evidence please
While it is possible that Striklyme may have been targeted for his speaking out on this Seun/Jesoul incident, it is also necessary to note, that unlike our dear Striklyme, he has of recent resorted to posting "Olodo" at every .........

Am of the opinion that it is a phase, that our dear Striklyme will revert to his normal self.

To me, the mods have expressed their love for him since they hard allowed it to continue for a pretty while befor now.

However, a lot depends on your view of what "Olodo" means, if it is a civilised mode of communication.

Meanwhile, there is an eagerness to see our dear Striklyme revert to his usual self.

Concerning Logicboy errrm grin
cool
Christianity EtcRe: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by truthislight: 12:32pm On Jun 13, 2013
benalvino: I don't care if you even call me a killer. so go play with your toys or watch your cartoon network you are a kid.
Look at this deceitful dead conscience empty headed hypocrite that said that the name Yahweh is beared by other people in this world.

That the Name Yahweh/Jehovah is not exclusive to him alone. That humans have that name.
Only mad men with mental problem like you can say and do that.

That mad men walk naked on the road, does it mean that it is synonimouse with normal adult humans ? No.

Empty head things that open their mouth to vomit lies to deceive both themself and their kinds and an insult to the almighty God.
Whose intent is only to turn black to white.

You must be highly pained to see Ijawkid and co tear your lies to shrades.

Your type is actually a low in this forum, we have seen intelligent people that knows try more on how to open the bible.

The only skill you have is lying, an open lie at that in an open forum, shameless wicked immoral empty headed liar.

You are a disgrace to Christianity.

Infact, you have turned to a nuisance, i dont know why i still enter a thread opened by a deranged thing like you.

If you cant have respect for Yahweh that Jesus prayed to, made his name manifest to his disciples how can you claim to be a christian, how can i have a respect for such a none entity ?

You are sick from top to botom.

Rubbish thing.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by truthislight: 10:52am On Jun 13, 2013
musKeeto: @logicboy
You must be a MAD MAN... tongue

or you take us for toddlers..
Lol. He Must have repented befor posting that.

Imagined logicboy with a clear eye asking "if any one have seen him abusing some one". grin .

Lol. He must be on a long thing or he takes us for toddlers.

Well, anything can happen.
Maybe, he has repented. cheesy
Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 10:40am On Jun 13, 2013
Boomark: Have you also wondered if the isralites were taught by the prophets to worship man when you see things like " a ruler came and worshiped Him, saying, “My daughter has just died" what did he actually said while worshiping him?

Definition of worship
noun

1 the feeling or expression of reverence and adoration for a deity:the worship of God ancestor worship
2 the acts or rites that make up a formal expression of reverence for a deity; a religious ceremony or ceremonies:the church was opened for public worship
3 adoration or devotion comparable to religious homage, shown toward a person or principle:our society’s worship of teenagers
4 archaic honor given to someone in recognition of their merit.
[as title] (His/Your Worship) chiefly British used in addressing or referring to an important or high-ranking person, especially a magistrate or mayor:we were soon joined by His Worship the Mayor

Compare these things to the worship given to God which must be in spirit and in truth.
No matter to what any Israelite did, he knows that there is a temple in Jerusalem where God Yahweh receives worship.

That israelite will still carry his animal to the temple and offer it to the one true God the father.

They had no idea of a three in one God. QED.
Christianity EtcRe: About The Trinity by truthislight: 10:35am On Jun 13, 2013
Boomark: John 4:21-25

New King James Version (NKJV)

21 Jesus said to her, “Woman, believe Me, the hour is coming when you will neither on this mountain, nor in Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 You worship what you do not know; we know what we worship, for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for the Father is seeking such to worship Him. 24 God is Spirit, and those who worship Him must worship in spirit and truth.”

25 The woman said to Him, “I know that Messiah is coming” (who is called Christ). “When He comes, He will tell us all things.”

Read carefully this english words and see who the isrealites worship, who Christ said we should worship, who is seeking true worshipers, who reconciled us to himself through Christ-Col 1:19-20, 2cor 5:18-21(do you know what this means?), who we all go to through Christ(Jn14:6). It is either you obey Christ, through whom God has called you for reconciliation and while doing so you are obeying the will of the Father cos Christ brought the will of the father to us. Do you disagree? Don't deceive your self by running around these things. you are not doing it for me.

Look! see! they also know about the coming Messiah-Christ.
You have heard from the Master...Worship God
And the word "christ and massaiah" both means Annointed one.

Who did the annointting ?

*well, be my guest, what happened the day he was baptised ?*
Christianity EtcRe: Do You Pay Tithe On Borrowed Money by truthislight: 10:24am On Jun 13, 2013
[quote author=outc@st]^^^

Since that's what you want for yourself then good. Enjoy your tithe paying.[/quote]Why should he not keep the idea to himself ?

Or, is he a tithe collector/beneficiary ?
Christianity EtcRe: "Firstborn" Does It Mean First Created? Jehovah's Witness! by truthislight: 10:19am On Jun 13, 2013
Guy liar.

benalvino: No personal attacks here... truthlight respect your selves
I called you a liar because you lied simple.

I will only stop to call you a liar on two conditions:

1. You apologise that you had made a mistake that you know no one else that answers the name Yahweh.

2. That i forget to call you such. QED.

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