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smallrincowis16:
simply answer... because he has body.

that's why he (salla llahu alyhi wasalam). can see angels too. hope it's cleared enough

Please leave the stage, you don't know what you are saying.

You once said satan is invisible to human eyes and now you are saying muhammad could see him. Quran says muslims could not see jinns:

Quran 7:27 "Indeed he
(Iblis) and his tribe watch
you from a position where
you cannot see them"

I will not respond to you again if you continue to say unreasonable things.

Empiree:
Your exit....which way?

Answer these questions straight
without rigmaroling:


Muslims say islamic satan is a
jinn, do jinns have physical
bodies as they are made of fire?


Are jinns visible and tangible?
Your quran says they are not,
how would Muhammad tie a jinn
(satan) for people to see:
Quran 7:27 "Indeed he
(Iblis) and his tribe watch
you from a position where
you cannot see them"


Does water still remain pure
after dirts are thrown into it
stinking?

smallrincowis16:
lolssss.
but it's only invisible to human eye... that doesn't mean they don't have body as we have.

as there are ANGELS which are invisible,,,,,, that didn't connotes they don't have body.
even in Islamic believe. JINN and IBLEES will surely be judge and rewarded..
will they be punish in there spirit form?

You are just contradicting yourself. Since you said satan is invisible, how did muhammad see him and want to tie him for people to see? This is the reason for the thread.

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mustymatic:
Who says there's anything wrong with the hadiths?
Common sense is not common.

To you, nothing is wrong when Muhammad said well water into which menses and dead dogs are thrown, stinking is pure. Where do you put your common sense?

@ Anas09

Thank you.

Muhammad and muslims are carnal people, who don't and cannot understand the bible. Nobody can understand God except by the Holy Spirit.

You are right. Jesus didn't see satan physically (Mat. 4:1). He was led by the spirit to the wilderness.

smallrincowis16:
I can see how deluded you're... that was why I hesitated. just answer this question.
was Jesus carried by Satan spirit to the hill? and was Jesus speaking with Satan spirit?

lolsss

Trash!

OREMUSSANCTUS:
Buh ma boo U shld know too well dat europe and west re "infidel" places Y not saudi where dere is shariah?

Correct!

smallrincowis16:
lolsssss. when he was created was it in spirit..... was it the spirit that carried JESUS to the bill.... lolsss

the second hadith has a better explanation..... but it will be useful for Muslims alone...... cos we call something as QAIDDAH USUULIYAH that's the fundamental bases for all water is that it's PURE.
hope you get that?

for the Silva..... that HADITH made it impermissible to use it at all for utensils. but can be wear by male as RING only not other adornment.
females can also wear anything as adornment but only for his husband.

how they're well cleared off now

To you, Satan is no more a spirit, he now lives physically as a man that you can handle and tie up to your mosque pillar? Good of you. Telling lies mean nothing to muslims as the quran itself is lies.

So all water is pure to muslims even if menses, dungs etc are thrown into it. The first thing allahh does to his believers is tamper with their brain so as to make them abnormal human beings. No normal human being will say water is still pure after dirts have thrown into it and has become stinking.

Silver is good when you wear it as ring in your hand and no hell in your fingers. It is good as a necklace on your neck and no hellish feeling in your neck but if you drink water from it, the water turns to hellfire in your stomach. Serious. What a rational occurence. This is applicable only in islamic science, a science that operates against rational reactions and behaviours.

I use silver utensils daily and I don't feel hell in my stomach, making allah, Muhammad and all of you blatant liars.

I am yet to see a muslim that reasons rationally even if he is a professor, when it comes to religious issues. It is unfortunate that wester education is not enough to detect the lies of satan.

mustymatic:
U R The greatest mumu of all time u don't hav an ounce of sense of humour

Look at a defence from islam apologist! Smh!

Demmzy15:
Laughing at you in 'Igbomina' yoruba! Keep consoling yourself, pathetic loser!

What is your explanation to the hadiths na?

None of you has said anything on the hadiths, except one who said satan is visible and tangible. Lie as usual.

Demmzy15:
Truthman2012 is humiliated once again!

Laughing at you in Yoruba!

Don't keep deceiving yourself and making yourself happy.

smallrincowis16:
LOLSSS
I can see!!!

SATAN is a creation by Allah (from something). this make him visible and touchable like man kind....... he operates less like angel GABRIEL .
although what prophet was saying is spiritual.

Satan is visible and touchable? A capital lie!

When last did you see him?

How does he look like?

Quran says he is not visible: Quran 7:27 "Indeed he
(Iblis) and his tribe watch
you from a position where
you cannot see them.
How could Muhammad tie him for people to see?

Why are you silent on the other hadiths:

Water not polluted by dirts.

Silver vessels, a hell in the stomach.

smallrincowis16:
Proof of abrogation from the bible!!!!
There are many commandments in the Bible that
changed. Instead of discussing them I give
concrete references for abrogation declared in the
Bible.
‘For the priesthood being changed, there is made
of necessity a change also of the law.’ (Hebrews
7:12)
Well known Christian commentator Adam Clarke
writes under this verse:
‘The priesthood, therefore, being changed, Jesus
coming in the place of Aaron, the law of
ordinances and ceremonies, which served only to
point out the Messiah, must of necessity be
changed also.’
Lost books of the Bible
Infact there were many books to which even the
authors of the Canonical books also referred but
they are lost or atleast not in the Bible.
Some of them are:
1- The Book of the Wars of the Lord mentioned in
Numbers 21:14
2- Book of Jasher mentioned in Joshua 10: 13 etc
3- Book of Nathan the Prophet mentioned in 2-
Chronicles 9: 29
4- Acts of Rehoboam & Book of Shemaiah the
prophet mentioned in 2-Chronicles 12:15
5- Book of the acts of Solomon mentioned in 1-
Kings 11:41
6- Acts of Uzziah mentioned in 2-Chronicles
26:22
This proves that the teachings of the prophets
have been lost. Do Christians have any scriptural
proof or historical evidence that nothing of value
has been lost in these books and their teachings
and records have been preserved in their so-
called canon now?
All this exposes the liars who try to put the
authenticity Book of Islam to doubt while their
own book of authority is in the worst condition on
the very accounts they try to challenge Quran.

This doesn't have anything to do with this thread. Open a thread and let's discuss it. So many things you and those from whom you copy their notes do not understand.

Besides, if you think the bible is wrong, does that exornetate the quran, hadiths or islam?

smallrincowis16:
there are ways to learn. not like that.
to me I see nothing wrong with the hadith at all. so if you see any,,,,,, you can say it.

Oh yes! So many things are wrong with the hadiths and in fact am surprised you couldn't see anything wrong. No wonder you have been saying what you have been saying.

Satan is a spirit-being not visible to man, including prophets. He cannot be physically held and tied to a pillar for people to see. That shows he was only hallucinating and ditto for many of his statements.

In what science is it said that water cannot be polluted by throwing dirty things into it, moreso a well that is not flowing? Polluted water causes most of the known deseases, how could Muhammad say water is pure and not defiled by anything? Even the old illiterate people in harmlets and villages know water is impure when dirty things are thrown into it. Don't you know that yourself?

Muhammad expected them to use dirty and stinking water for ablution, which included putting some of it into their mouth.

Finally, what is wrong in using silver vessels in drinking or eating? Many of the utensils we use today are silver. Who has ever experieced hell in their stomach?

How reasonable therefore is it to follow the spiritual and medical prescriptions of such a person?

How can you be sure Muhammad received any revelation from the true God, who could not have inspired him to say such nonsense?

smallrincowis16:
2)
christians do claim that Jesus of the Bible was the only SINLESS PERSON hence being the perfect sacrifice for the remission of sins of mankind.. But unfortunately, we have some biblical figures whom the Bible never recorded their sins e.g ENOCH, ABEL, MARY.. for the benefit of doubt, I will (from a Christian perspective) believe that these figures were sinners because they were given birth to by male and female having knowledge of each other because Christianity teaches we are automatic sinners by birth... Unfortunately, melchizedek was Sinless according to the Bible and he had no mother and had no father, making him different from Jesus who came out from under a woman . If melchizedek might have been a sinner because the Bible couldn't record everything, how then can we be sure Jesus didn't sin since the Bible didn't record anything about him from age 12-30 Moreover the baptism of John the Baptist was for repentance and we read.. Mark 1:4-5 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins... And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.... Matthew 3:13 Then Jesus came from Galilee to the Jordan to be baptized by John...... Didn't this proof Jesus to be a sinner? Why should he be baptized before he started his ministry?

You have no knowledge of the Bible.
Wanting to dance out trouble.

smallrincowis16:
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who will solve the riddle?
Tempts?
"And it came to pass after these things, that God
did tempt Abraham." (GEN 22:1)
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am
tempted of God; for God cannot be tempted with
evil, neither tempteth he any man." (JAS 1:13)
* Does God tempt people? If yes,
*explain James 1:13...
And if no
*explain Genesis 22:1

This thread is not about contradictions. Diversion is usually employed when muslims are faced with difficulty.

There are loads of contradictions in the quran I have in my record. In fact the whole of the quran is contradictions as allah was abrogating his revelations.

smallrincowis16:
cos I see no reason for that.
what I'm seeing is just like deliberate attempt to blaspheme Islam without knowledge.

If I don't have knowledge, explain the hadiths for me.

Empiree:
So you still shopping around looking for ahadith that your brain can't decipher. Islam is giving you sleepless night. I guess Islam is knocking you off and humiliating your Christian faith so bad.

You too long here man. Your next phase is to come to Islam now. You can quote ahadith all you want. You don't speak Arabic. You are exhausted already. That alone puts you in chokehold.

Is that your defence of Muhammad's ignorance?

That you cannot comment on your prophet's statements shows you follow him BLINDLY. God will blame you for not using your head.

smallrincowis16:
this shows how really you're being humiliated.
lolssss.
I'm going to quote from bible some blasphemous verses and then you'll see the truth yourself

Why must you always defend islam with the bible?

Defend the OP and let's see.

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smallrincowis16:
it seems the Christian are somehow humiliated

Who is humiliated other than your spiritually and medically ignorant prophet?

Defend his statements now!

What else do muslims need to know about Muhammad and Allah to discover they are fraud?

May God deliver you.

Cc: eshbeewanna

Another medical advice from Dr. Prophet Muhammad:

''Nothing Polutes Water''



https://www.nairaland.com/2332946/laughable-hadiths-when-muhammad-became

Another medical advice from Dr, Prophet Muhammad:

''Nothing Polutes Water''


https://www.nairaland.com/2332946/laughable-hadiths-when-muhammad-became

Another medical advice from Dr, Prophet Muhammad:
''Nothing Polutes Water''
https://www.nairaland.com/2332946/laughable-hadiths-when-muhammad-became

If Muhammad was actually inspired by allah, he (allah) must be a comedian. Why take him seriously?

MUHAMMAD TO TIE SATAN FOR SHOWCASE:

Narrated Abu Huraira: The
Prophet once offered the prayer
and said, "Satan came in front of
me and tried to interrupt my
prayer, but Allah gave me an
upper hand on him and I choked
him. No doubt, I thought of tying
him to one of the pillars of the
mosque till you get up in the
morning and see him. Then I
remembered the statement of
Prophet Solomon, 'My Lord!
Bestow on me a kingdom such as
shall not belong to any other after
me.' Then Allah made him (Satan)
return with his head down
(humiliated)."
[Sahih Bukhari 2:22:301]

NOTHING POLUTES WATER:

Narrated AbuSa'id al-Khudri: The
people asked the Messenger of
Allah (peace be upon him): Can we
perform ablution out of the well
of Buda'ah, which is a well into
which menstrual clothes, dead
dogs and stinking things were
thrown? He replied: Water is pure
and is not defiled by anything
Abu Dawud 1:66 ,
AbuDawud 1:67.

SILVERWARE IS HELL:

Narrated Um Salama: (the wife of
the Prophet) Allah's Apostle said,
"He who drinks in silver utensils is
only filling his abdomen with Hell
Fire."
Sahih Bukhari 7:69:538

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Causes of fever as given by medical experts:


http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/mobileart.asp?articlekey=361&page=3

Is jizya the only source Muhammad's wealth?

He said his wealth comes from spears and conquests.

A man who lived by killing others, yet the lying allah said he is the best of mankind. Irony!

jcross19:
Bro. If you see a muslim then you have seen a liar , they eat, sleep,wake, dine,walk with lies .lies is in their genes and that spirit lives in them.

True!

Satan is a liar and the father of liar.

Allah is Satan in disguise, lied so much in the quran, which his believers are emulating. When muslims see black they try to twist it to be white. That is their god's nature.

Hadiths say Muhammad died of poison, muslims are ashamed of it and want to deny it. Up till now, they are unable to show other cause of his death.