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Rilwayne001:
If only you are truthful to yourself and ready to embrace the truth, here is a well detailed response for your thread: https://www.nairaland.com/2461053/warped-reasoning-extremist-militants

Demmzy15:
Lol Al TAKKIYAH practicing Christians, following the footsteps of Paul since 42AD

Jagoon:
Your op was such a deadly knock out punch for the islamist they are not even attempting their usual al taqquiya here

Demmzy15:
So you really think I can't or other Muslims can't? Mehn we have better things to do.

Demmzy15:
These are one of the reasons I don't want to address the OP, you utter what a mentally deranged child can't utter. Smh

Demmzy15:
Fixed

jcross19:
I love this discovery and is going to open a mind of those who want the truth to reason very well. Islamic clerics please we need your attention!!!!!!!!!
Kudos to you bro.

Jagoon:
Simple explanation is that islam has pagan roots. It only incorporated some bible stories and characters to give it some credibility.

smartesboys:
amazing! Have you ever asked your mother why did she have sex with your father and gave birth of you, before you were born.
amazing! Have you ever asked your mother why did she have sex with your father and gave birth of you, before you were born.
amazing! Have you ever asked your mother why did she have sex with your father and gave birth of you, before you were born.

mustymatic:
Cause it was nonsense am sure, would u like me to post em fr u?

mustymatic:
Would you like me to show you some 50 contradiction from the Bible?
Quran has no contradiction, Muhammad was unlettered, if he were able to read and write you would say he read the Bible and changed some portion, but this was from his lord... An unlettered prophet with the most perfect Scripture revealed by only him and not edited by many

aminusanti:
Mr truthman ur hate deserves 5stars..
I see no difference btw u and boko haram as this is the kind of misquotation their r having in them and kill everyone that comes their way.. do yourself a favor and seek proper knowledge my brother as u only live once and without doubt only one religion is right so dont be deceived/brainwash. If you can be just to yourself if what you are saying is really true by generalizing muslim as terrorist no doubt they ll b no single non- believer in nig moving..


"Quran 48:29] Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard[/font][font=Lucida Sans Unicode] against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves"

The right translation of that verse from arabic to english is not 'hard' is 'strong and firm' in arabic is 'ashidda, some english translation is 'ruthless' so do you have to apply the negative ones. Also the above verse is quoted out of context
This is referring to the historical context when the muslims were attacked continuously, by reading the next few verses you will understand what am saying if only you read for understanding not for criticism



It is important that we study the religious texts in their proper context. When these texts are not read in their proper textual and historical contexts they are manipulated and distorted. It is true that some Muslims manipulate these verses for their own goals such as boko haram. But this is not only with Islamic texts, it is also true with the texts of other religions. I can quote dozens of verses from the Bible which seem very violent, if taken out from their historical context. These Biblical texts have been used by many violent Jewish and Christian groups. Crusaders used them against Muslims and Jews. Nazis used them against Jews. Recently Serbian Christians used them against Bosnian Muslims. Zionists are using them regularly against Palestinians. Boko Haram are using them against nigeria as a whole.

haftob:
Mohammed was unarguable an illiterate but I want u to go over the quran with an unbiased mind and ask urself, can an illiterate compose this?

alienvirus:
Oga you have no evidence. Have a good day.

alienvirus:
tell me in clear terms, the essence of the division.

...Qul hatu burhanakum in kuntum sodiqiin (bring your evidence if you are truthful) ...Qur 2 vs 110

alienvirus:
nothing to prove wrong. The whole thing is already wrong. How on earth and in heaven will God do that. Does it really make sense to you?
So for God to function well, He needed to divide Himself into three while He is omnipotent.

You see now?

truthman2012:
That is very funny and a serious display of ignorance.

Quran confirms Muhammad and muslims are wicked people (Quran 48:29) and Christians are good people (Quran 57:27). Why do you decide to be among the bad and wicked people? Refute this and let me see.

Quran talks about Mary and Jesus, the virgin birth of Jesus. It talks about Gabriel announcing the birth of Jesus to Mary. It talks about the deed of Jesus, how he made a clay bird that actually flew. It talks about his message: worship your God and my God. It talks about rescuing Jesus when they wanted to kill him. It mentioned Jesus name 25 times and Muhammad only 4 times. BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ALLAH STATING THE REASON THEY WANTED TO KILL JESUS, YOU SAY QURAN DOES NOT EXPLAIN FULLY THE LIFE OF JESUS. Serious!

How did you know quran does not explain fully the life of Jesus? Where did you find other details about him? What a lame defence.

By the time allah was saying he deceived humanity by making the man crucified to look like Jesus and that he rescued the real Jesus, did he forget to simply say the reason they wanted him killed? Deceiver!

Your question is irrelevant to the subject of the thread and you want to digress because of lack of defence to the OP.

You must be a small boy because your reasoning is puerile.

mbolajide2010:
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Then you are more confused than i think you are.

Can't you understand that the quran didn't explain fully the life of Jesus; just the same way the bible didn't explain fully the life of Moses.

There is no way i could describe you than being a hypocrite. You didn't see how harsh the choice of your brothers' language was. But you could see that of the muslims.

Shame on you you couldn't answer my questions and look at the trash you are saying up there. I addressed your question but you couldn't address mine instead you are saying trash.

Again, i wonder how you passed.

Remain blessed bro.

mbolajide2010:
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I am forced to say you are too confused for my likings. I am sorry anyway if you are hurt.

How can you say Moses never declared that he was the way to the lord. Have you read the book given to him? Or do you think the bible covered everything about Moses the way the book(Torah) given to him did.

You probably have comprehension problem, by saying they are the way to the lord i mean you must believe in them to make heaven, you must follow their teachings.

You must be deluded by saying Muhammed never said he was the way to Allah.Why then is he the messenger? Why then do you have to believe in him as a muslim? Why then must you follow is teachings as a muslim to make heaven?

Look you said i don't understand the bible, but it is not my problem if the different versions of the bibles are not the same.Now, the verse i quoted for you was John 16:7 and i am sure you understood me but because you are hypocrite you pretended to act otherwise. Okay check that verse now and compare with this, "Jesus died because that is the reason for which he came and that is to take away the sins of those who believe in him." This is according to you.

I never said that the bible covered the life of Moses differently as the book(Torah) given to Moses did. But the bible didn't cover it as extensively as the book given to Moses. Same way the quran didnt cover the life of Jesus as the bible did.

Bro i wonder how passed in school as the holy spirit is yet to reside in you. Hence, your comprehension skills is low.

Please explain the contradiction between John 16:7 and "Jesus died because that was the reason why..." as you claimed.

true2god:
Old age is a blessing. I believe you will also like to grow old. Stop talking like a kindargetten kid.

alienvirus:
Lol. This got me cracking.Falseman2012 must be an Alibaba seriously.

malvisguy212:
you guys are being deceive by satan, satan present what look like truth to deceive you, All the prophet you keep on mentioning are Jews, ONLY muhammed is an Arab who proclaimed himself as prophet, do you really believe God will waited for soo long just to send a different man from different descended to contradicte his message?

The Qur’an states Muhammad was the
first Muslim. ( Surah 6:163). However, it
also that Abraham who lived centuries
before Muhammad was a Muslim. ( Surah3:67). And The Qur’an states that the disciples of Jesus who lived before
Muhammad were also Muslims. ( Surah 5:111). In fact, the Qur’an claims that all
prophets, from the time of Abraham to
Muhammad were Muslims. (Surah 22:78)

QUESTION:
Since the Qur’an states that Muhammad was the first Muslim, while at the same time declaring that there were Muslims before the time of Muhammad, is this not a clear proof of the existence of a contradiction in the Qur’an?
How are you going to reconcile the
Qur’an’s claim that Muhammad was the
first Muslim with the Qur’an’s
statement that Abraham who lived
before him was also a Muslim?
How are you going to reconcile the
Qur’an’s claim that Muhammad was the
first Muslim with the Qur’an’s
statement that the disciples of Jesus
who lived before him were Muslims?
Do you not agree that if Abraham was
truly a Muslim as the Qur’an claims,
then Muhammad cannot be the first
Muslim?
Do you not agree that if the disciples of
Jesus were truly Muslims as the Qur’an
claims, then Muhammad cannot be the
first Muslim?
Do you not agree that one or the other
verse in the Qur’an is a lie?
Does this not clearly prove that the
Qur’an contains a false statement in it?
Will the true Word of God contain an
error in it?
As such, can you really trust the Qur’an
as the Word of God?
Who was the first Muslim? The Qur’an
gives the following answers:

Muhammad ( Surah 6:14, Surah 6:163),
Abraham (Surah 2:127-133, Surah 3:67)
Moses (Surah 7:143), some unnamed
Egyptians (Surah 26:51), Disciples of
Jesus (Surah 5:111). So Muslims,
according to your Qur’an, who was the
first Muslim?

true2god:
Happy RAMadan my muslim friends. The moon has been sighted and there is need for calm.

This reminds me of an epic movie
'APOCALYPTO'. The movie was directed by Mel Gibson and one of the major actor in that movie is named JAGUAR PAW.

Their land ,JAGUAR PAW, was invaded by enemy forces and he was taken prisoner and exiled to the enemy territory to be used for human sacrificed for the 'SUN GOD'.

As soon as JAGUAR PAW was to be
sacrificed on the alter of the idol, the
MOON was sighted by the by high priest which indicated that the gods had been filled with enough blood and there was no need for more human sacrifice.

The movie was an epic one and the
current sighting of the moon reminds me
of that movie APOCALYPTO.

Rilwayne001:
@True2god and other numskull on this thread, this^ is exactly my point. It now left to you to further deceive yourself by feigning ignorance of the explanation.

I have better things to do today. No time to waste with chowderheads.

Rilwayne001
Okay.Continue fighting it.. Olodo.

mbolajide2010:
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[color=#990000]Let me help you out, when Moses was alive he was the way to the Lord; same thing to the prophets before and after him eg Solomon, Jesus and Muhammed. When Jesus was alive he was the way to the Lord so also Muhammed.

Now, you can't expect the bible to cover the life of Moses the way it covers the life of Jesus; the same way the quran does not cover the life of Jesus as it covers that of Muhmamed. Does the bible cover the life of Moses as Torah did? Please answer this question.

At the bolded, "Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you." In this verse Jesus said, the helper will not come if he didn't go away as oppose to your own reason of him going away. Can you see the contradiction in the bible by yourself? Can you see how confused your boook is?

Once again i thought you were smart.

At the bolded, "Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you." In this verse Jesus said, the helper will not come if he didn't go away as oppose to your own reason of him going away. Can you see the contradiction in the bible by yourself? Can you see how confused your boook is?

Now, you can't expect the bible to cover the life of Moses the way it covers the life of Jesus;

Does the bible cover the life of Moses as Torah did

Rilwayne001:
"Muslim" is an Arabic word meaning "one who submits (to God)". Search this online etymology dictionary for its meaning': http://www.etymonline.com/ All prophets are muslim because they submit to the Will of God, Jesus, Noah, Abraham Moses and every other prophets are muslim being the fact that they submit ti the will of God.

mbolajide2010:
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Don't be confused bro.

They tried to kill Jesus because they did not believe in him that is the islamic version of the whole thing; even till today they do not believe in Jesus. The Jews refer to those who believe or say Jesus is God as fools a little Google search would help you on this.

According to the bible you are a son of God if you follow the words of God; but john 3:16 was twisted, hence the addition of "begotten" to show that Jesus is the real son while others are fake sons.

Can you explain Trinity please? Mind you i dont want to hear that if the holy spirit does not reside in you, then you can not understand it.

How can Jesus be God at the same time the son of God? How can God died in the first place? How can God be looking at those who killed his son till they killed him according to the bible?

Bro modern Christianity is so confused!

Thank you.

malvisguy212:
Jesus was the legal son of Joseph but not the
biological son of Joseph.
According to Matthew: Joseph is
descended from Solomon, the son of King David and Bathseba this make Jesus eligible to the throne of David /judah.
Why luke trace it ,Joseph Os descended of Nathan, another son of David

the Jews never introduce women as direct genealogical links,

Rilwayne001

The bolded is exactly my point. Jesus is son of god because he follow Gods teaching and ordained this teaching in due course. He said it him in John 12: For I did not speak of my own accord, but the Father who sent me commanded me what to say and how to say it. Joh 12:50 I KNOW that his command leads to eternal life. [size=13pt] So whatever I say is just what the Father has told me to say." This equally makes him the son of God as per the bolded.

Can you please tell me the reason why Luke and Mattew refer to Joseph as his father in the genealogy in both book?

Ofcourse the Quran acknowledge that. My question is, why did luke and mattew refer to Joseph as his father?

yawns*** my chatbox is getting full.

Well, you can correct your masters here http://www.gotquestions.org/kingdom-heaven-God.html the dude said they are the same thing. Your lie has been bursted again.

Lying at old age...Smh

I asked pertinent questions, you boycotted almost everything, Smh. OMG! at bolded. Then of what essence am I even argueing with you? Damn! you are a waste of time.

Bla bla bla. Those with active sight and brain can see that you have been answered. You can continue ranting.