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thorpido:
That is true @bolded.Nevertheless,He doesn't always interfere in all human activities.If men choose to destroy themselves,he may not interfere but that does not mean He approves it.
The IVF is peculiar because even scientists can't give the life. They only become part of the process of assisting it.
I agree abuse is part of it.

Actually life can now be created in d lab, all you need is egg i.e ovum and sperm, it may die off early but it can certianly be created that is IVF, making human life a commodity.

Hiswordxray:
Glory! Where was that? I mean the mass...

the nearest parish to u.

If u live among fulanis please arm yourself, the state has failed its citizens, arm urself and be prepared to defend yourself whenever d fulanis attack.

Christos Anesti!

Chai! easter vigil was da bomb, dat moment when u are nodding and dancing and thumping at errm... hymns! Left church singing aka m di n'elu.

The Lord is rising!

zionmade3:
Now dats d Division Paul was talking about. U think ur belief go well with other churches?
No but we are one body in Christ as long as we bear d name Christians. There is no Division. And moreover d first person i tried to correct said, other denominations so where in d scripture do u want me to go and study about how christians should line up under denominations

Ask ur pastor how d denominations came about.

NoWorries7:
When will you Catholics should stop mocking God? God have mercy...

you get big problem

zionmade:
I was pointing out to dat guy dat there is also something bad about catholics. So d fact dat something bad is reported about some churches doesnt make members of those other churches less christians.
And dat statement i made is 100% correct. Some reverend fathers are homosexuals, d others are practices from Catholics dat other christians detest. U didnt quote d guy i referred to because u acting like a judge thinks he is correct. Moreover if we dnt blow trumpet on wat God does thru us people would not be motivated to also become tools in God's hands.
If u re a catholic just talk to ur people and stay off my mention mr judge

You see how u changed a thread that was celebrating a good thing and open a can of worms? whats next? maybe someone will raise d issue of pastors having sex with member and then d thread will totally go off rails.
oya clapp 4 urself

zionmade:
Must u add denomination to dis. Wat is wrong with Catholics for God's sake.
Christians did dis so all christians shud emulate d good works, must u start blabbing denomination?
Catholics will never do half of wat churches like SCOAN, LIVING FAITH AND Christ Embassy does and yet they are double in number compared to these churches.
I hate it wen denominations are addressed instead of Christianity in totality and Catholics do this Rubbish most times

Hehe, i also hate it when a particular group is targeted but since u've started it, none of the churches above even go near d catholic church even if u join all of them together, d catholic church is the single greatest provider of charity in d whole world.

Do u seen scon in the north? Do u have living faith and embasy charity in afganistan?

I think trump is simply dropping americans antiquated weapons. MOAB is a pretty old cold war weapon with little manoeveribility, it can't be delivered with modern warcraft and is actually a liability in war.

Joavid:
Dey there and be doing billings method.

Your mates in Catholic church are on reliable birth control methods from the clinic.

Abi Catholic church will come and take care of your growing family when your billings method fail.

Na wa 4 u oh.

emmasege:
How best can someone describe this inept government?

A government characterized with much talk with little or no work.

And are we talking of the same road which reconstruction started during GEJ but was abandoned for a long time for lame reasons only tenable to zombies?

Oga read again, this is abt a road

Abiagirl777:
thank God its Catholic view,I mean wetin concern the church with how you bring in a child into the world.that was how my bestie got pregnant and the husband denied it because he so much believed in the safe period method being 100% effective,and that the catholic church can never be wrong.

Weytin concern d church is pretty simple, the church judges d morality of actions and in this case she says it is immoral.

thorpido:
God's view is the same as with heart transplant or kidney transplant.
He gave men the knowledge and if He didn't want it to work,no matter how men try,it will fail.
You know there are high failure rates with IVF.

let us follow your arguement to its reasonable conclusion. God also gave man d knowledge of nuclear weapons, and if he doesnt want it to work, no matter what it will fail abi? So any country that successfully detonate a nuclear bomb is approved by God abi?

Sorry that line of arguement is fallacious.

Science has also had both positive and humanly degrading application and in this case the pope argues that to make human life a commodity to be produced in d lab is to degrade it.

Add that to the 100's of human life in d formative stage that dies in the process then it is truly dispicable.

EzigboNwanma:
Well,I got to learn because Catholic strongly advice against condoms,and what if you marry not so good at sex brother kind of hubby,who is a jjc like you when it comes to the matter nkor?
Lol... Then kiss goodbye to withdrawal cos e go fall your hand
#COPIED#

catholic also teach strongly against withdrawal method.

Hiswordxray:
Can't you just be a brother?
Why must you argue with fellow Christians?

How was mass today?

I have been a brother thus far, you don't just accuse people of been blinded and not show how and where.

Mass is alway beautiful, moreso in holy week.

paskyboy:
That's callous, meanwhile I can't count how many lives Dangote's truck has destroyed. About the land things should be done sorted out legally and legitimately rather than through Violence

read d article d court case has been settLed

Hiswordxray:
I didn't say you were wrong, I said you do not understand. You judge things based on your perception, your preconceived thoughts rather than the reality and that is what have blinded you.
Happy Sunday

So what is it you think i do not understand?

now u claim i have been blinded from reality...guess what i think u should apply that statement to yourself, if u cant prove my misunderstanding then you are the one with delusions.

luckyCO:
You are the one removing Christ such that you will position peter.
The story of Joseph is also talking about Christ.
In the millennial reign ,christ is king,prime minister,judge,ruler etc.
Peter is a co-worker in the kingdom please.

OH, christ is d prime minister of his own kingdom abi? An then he gave the keys to peter? An the bible says in Is 22:22 that the one who receive the key of d kingdom is the prime minister?

how does that sound?

Hiswordxray all you did above was tell me that I have the wrong idea about the church and instead of showing me where the wrong idea is you simply dump a post from your blog which contains much of what i already believe even though it doesnt even do justice to d topic.

Next time u accuse someone of having d wrong idea be sure to point out the wrong idea.

Newmancho i'll respond to ur post in d morning.

luckyCO:
I just wanted to know which kingdom you are talking about and you have reached conclusion.
Since you have made peter your kingdom prime minister,fine for you but mine is Christ,case closed!

I don hear, your KING is the prime minister of your kingdom.
isnt that ridiculous to you? I guess it isn't, you have hardened your heart against the truth.

furthermore this type of micromanaging of the saints s what
distinguishes law from grace.. You find that the law against strangled meat for example goes against scriptures like ...all things are lawful but not all things are expedient. There us a reason why Christ is the end of the law to them that
believe....the Jerusalem council in my view is rather pro law. Leading Christians by edicts seems a bit anachronistic in an age of grace.
My personal opinion is that Paul probably had
the message for that situation.

then maybe you and paul have a different understanding of grace because the apostle paul was there when the 'edict' were given and he didnt object.

Dongreat:
Then why wasn't this in a journal? Mind you after this I went online to search for proof on this on world recognized journal and nothing came up.
Understand that not all diseases can be cured. Understanding the pathophysiology is one thing, reversing the conditions using either agonist or antagonist is another. Something's are best managed.
So as not to waste our time, this article is rubbish and the cure if any will only be administered in Nigeria.

And you a self aclaimed scientist will deny a claim even before you have studied it.

Secondly the manner in which the decisions were reached took a middle ground between paul arguing for salvation by grace, and the judaizers arguing for the law of moses. They setled for the middle... Keep a few of the laws, . what possible justificatiin was there to retain some laws as binding? ??
Apart from avoiding offence to jewish brethren most scholars see none. So it was possibly a compromise arrangement, . Paul would later fall short of a key decree of the council when he suggested that food offered to idols could be eaten by believers under certain
circumstances. ....Paul said " whatever is sold
in the markets eat asking no questions for conscience sake..., again" ...if any that believes not invite you to a feast...eat whatever is set before you asking no questions.

there was no middle ground, the judaizer wanted circumcision and d council said no, the importance of d laws were suppose to keep the weak xtians away from idolatry, hence dont eat sacrifice...etc

My first issue with the Jerusalem council is it
set up a precedent for church councils, where
people gather and make binding regulatiins on all Christians based on the views of a few
persons present at their meeting. This has
been used to devastating effect since then , and the major schisms in the church i can recall started due to resolutions of church
councils.

my dear, truth is not based on the opinions of the majority! the church is based on d foundation of the apostles and it made total sense that the issue was brough to them because they were the ones who Jesus gave the teaching authority. So yes those 'few' people right decided issues for the majority since they had the authority to do so.


Council do not cause schism they resolve heresy! There we judaiser in d church b4 d council of jerusalem, there were arians b4 d council of nicea...etc

The shell of ritual perpetuates the original ideology at the potential expense of a personal experience. I hope you see my point: church should be as
controlled by the spirit as the church in the
wilderness was by the pillars of cloud and.fire.
without the continuing leadership of the spirit
the true church is paralysed, but the false denominational institutional church can still move around with the legs of its liturgy and practices.

and sometimes the rituals simply perpetuate true faith and allows the participant a personal experience of the spirit.

Dongreat:
Please can you tell me the steps briefly listed that were used in testing the toxicity of that potential drug?
If you are a doctor and a taxi driver said it's easy to perform a surgery just by opening and closing, won't you be pissed of?

Why would you be looking for steps of testing toxicity in a news article? is it a medical journal?

The article does well to tell us the drug has passed the toxicity test and has passed the stage one of its medical trials, why then are you looking for the nitty gritty details? Or are u NAFDAC or SON? Why not let the news be and see if it passes stage two medical trial?

You claiming epilepsy can't be cured is totally misguided, in science we only know today, tomorrow may absolutely blow our minds.

Ubenedictus:
here again i disagree!

Jesus himself established the church and entrusted her with duty to spead his word and celebrate his mysteries...he gave it leader and gave those leader d right to lead and then he crowned her with the holyspirit and promised never to leave her and promised her thd constant and abiding presence of the holyspirit....

that church is a spiritual reality with a physical demension, it is an organisation, a divine one. I believe in the promise of Jesus and i disagree that there was ever a time when the church existed without the abiding presence of Jesus and his Spirit.

I hold that the Church left by Jesus has his promise to never be prevailed upon by the gates of hell and for anyone to claim that the church was ever without the guiding and abiding presence of the spirit is to make Jesus a liar.

By this I mean that human organizations formed around the christian message which acquired the ability to be run without the holy
spirit micromanaging them. The organizations acquired a life of their own, they could live and move and have their being and run on
autopilot. These organisms have no need for the spirit. And are easily perpetuated even when the spirit departs. These are institutions easily run by long established codes .
Yes differences in opinion contributed to
formation of denominations, these different viewpoints when they are ritualized- concretized in symbolism or dogma or liturgy, or acculturation become denominational
institutions.

here again i disagree!

Jesus himself established the church and entrusted her with duty to spead his word and celebrate his mysteries...he gave it leader and gave those leader d right to lead and then he crowned her with the holyspirit and promised never to leave her and promised her thd constant and abiding presence of the holyspirit....

Now, there are two related but separate things.
Denominationalism and institutionalism. If you read my previous posts well. I'm contending that both are inconsistent with the nature of the true Church , which is a living spontaneous
organism fluidly following the flow of the holy spirit's moment to moment leading. and both
arose as a.consequence of the things I listed.
With respect to ritualization , it resulted in institutionalization of the christian message as opposed to personalization.

here again you seem to be missing something.

The christian message must be both communual and personal, it has to be both not just personal.
I even make bold to say that christianity was alway meant to be institutional. Jesus didnt just give us only teachings and left us with the holy spirit no! He left also a community of believer, with leaders who had power to bind and lose i.e make laws and govern...he left a church with all the xteristics of an institution. newbornmacho

brocab:
Well sorry it wasn't the Catholic Church that gave me the bible, matter of fact-it was William Tyndale who translated into English, the bible I had received from the Catholic Church was written in Latin, of no mans land...

guess where tyndale got his bible manuscripts from

The question is why doesn't the Catholic Church recognise the King James Bible? Bottom line is it is beneficial for the Catholic's to use a Catholic Bible, or the New American Bible.
[color=#000099]Which aren't the King James, Plus the Catholic Church have there own doctrines 'that doesn't match up with the Word of God..

why will the catholic church use a bible made by an english king for anglican? the catholic english bible douy rheim was already out so why use an anglican bible with errors?

brocab:
I love the way you say this, a differing faith, and you yourself have a differing faith...
Meaning no faith at all..

You just proved my point.