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isale_gan2: I missed this the last time.


Never gets old:





Hahahaha

Her attack was really personal,why? have got no freaking clue

Okija_juju: And APC is our new Beginning I guess?!!

Tinubu

Buhari

Rochas

Ikimi

Ogbe

Udenwa

& co..


What is new about this?!


APC is a desparate move by weak political opposition parties to wrestle power away from the ruling Party.

The reason why the PDP remains the strongest party in Africa remains the fact that it has no Ethinic or religous emblem. You cant tie them to any group, religion or tribe. They are the only Political party that cuts across all and thats the secret of their strenght. CPC is a Northern Party, ACn Yoruba, APGA Igbo, ANPP Hausa. So:

2 Hausa Parties (CPC & ANPP)

1 Yoruba Party (ACN)

&

1 Igbo Party (APGA)

Joinning together to remove the PDP.. My brother, they were dead on arrival..

PDP till a new Party that has no ethinic or religous mark is formed..

FRESH BREEZE 2015..

Ethnic or tribal inclination isn't a bad thing if geared towards communal good and if it's not driven by hate for others. The singular reason for Pdp successes so far has been the lack of a robust mechanism to counter it and you would agree,this new guys have a chance;Never in our recent history have we had an opposition control 10 Nigerian states including the most important Nigerian state(Lagos) and a significant national assembly seats.secondly, we have the weakest and the most overly ambitious presidency in our history.If these guys are serious and if they show a bit of maturity pdp will either be mortally hit or scatter altogether.
like i said earlier APc isnt our saviour,just a chance to try something else

They are Most certainly not our saviour but Nigeria deserves another chance, a new beginning,and this regrouping of old, known politician under a different banner in a country where people especially politicians love instant gratification is commendable (they could have chosen to continue to share with pdp as usual).For those looking for saviours,stop dreaming,the Nigerian problem is so deep seated that the quickest chance of a turnaround is pray our politicians have a rethink or self destruct.
If a Apc is the re-branding of Pdp,it makes sense.maybe getting rid of that name and the culture of recklessness it has come to represent would be a good start
I don't expect transformation,small,incremental progress would do.

Nuzo':
Stop spinning this whole thing and making it all about you abeg!

Just answer the honest question abeg. Your answer will expose the hypocrisy some people have exihibited on this forum.

And for your info, I had always prefered Ribadu.

It's not very difficult,Okorocha has more leverage than Ngige;Okorocha is a governor,he brings a whole state into the equation and he solidly represent a wing of the alliance,Apga. These go a freaking long way in any political permutations.

Gbawe: Dude, sorry to say but have you been on Mars for the last 2 years? EL Rufai is finished as a politician !!! "Credible" is the last thing associated with him these days !! Try "Insanity", "insincerity", "immaturity", "extremist", "liar", "highly strung", "unstable", "divisive", needlessly pugnacious" etc. As things stand, El Rufai has damaged himself beyond repair. He has made himself very 'scary' , unappealing and off-putting.

@topic.

Jarus, the order is going to be Northern Presidential candidate and Southern VP. These sort of threads, where everyone gets to speculate and produce 'wish lists', are enjoyable but when we come to the reality of things the Only realistic Presidential candidates are Buhari or Ribadu. Simple as that. Buhari, by far, remains the greatest vote winner in the North and I am betting the APC will calculate that, with good work, it will be easier to neutralise his 'unacceptability' in the South than risk losing the election all for the sake of the "fresh blood" those of us who are educated and informed are asking for.

The analysts and statisticians in the APC will know it is a majority of emotional, divided and clannish people who will be voting not Nigerians with two masters degrees rooting unrealistically for Utomi. If GEJ gets the PDP ticket, the North will vote even more passionately for Buhari because, beyond emotion, everyone knows things have worsened for the North under GEJ, especially security, and no sane person votes for the continuity of a very abject and bleak situation. If a Northerner gets the PDP ticket, I doubt he will still poll as many votes as Buhari but certainly votes will be split in the North and other regions will have more importance in this scenario.

Whatever scenario, I think APC will pragmatically settle on Buhari with the notion of addressing his 'shortcomings' outside the North because we all saw how poorly Ribadu performed in the North in the last election yet he is the next visibly obvious choice to Buhari as a Northerner who is now an "experienced" Presidential candidate . It may be too much hard work, just because some are hankering for change, to gamble on pushing Buhari aside for someone like Ribadu only for the APC to then completely rely on successfully selling Ribadu to the North. It is an experiment that may fail flatly and I doubt it will even be regarded as a safe bet to entertain.

Ultimately, opinion is likely to be that Buhari remains surest banker in the North and that there is plenty of time to make his overall candidacy appealing to the south with a VP like Okorocha. Sadly GEJ has 'primed' the religious antenna of most Nigerians and this may play against Fashola as VP choice. If GEJ loses the PDP ticket to a Northerner, as I expect will happen, said Northerner will likely run with a Christian southerner as Atiku planned to run with Soludo last time. The APC may therefore not wish to gamble with a moslem-moslem ticket because these are not the best of times to expect Nigerians to be politically sophisticated and rise above bias. It is a battle for hearts and mind and the current policy of the PDP is to divide Nigerians, stoke paranoia and highlight sectional/religious differences. The APC may have no choice but to play the game.

If Buhari is forced to stand down by the stakeholders within the new Party, then the APC will have resigned itself to the hard work of marketing 'junior Buhari' (Ribadu) in the North assured in the knowledge he would be relatively popular in the South paired with a visible Southern performer and 'good guy'.

It is really the VP slot I cannot predict accurately but I think, as much as we all rate Fashola, the APC may consider the currently toxic and rancorous pulse of the Nation and decide to play safe with a Christian Southern VP. Then again, if one man has the broad appeal to make folks look beyond religion then it is Fashola. Many in the APC may argue his case from the perspective that Fashola is trusted and respected by all. Their argument may carry the day to ensure Fashola is the VP cnadidate for the APC.

All in all I think it will be Buhari/Ribadu paired with Okorocha/Fashola or Oshiomhole. If we are talking APC, folks should forget all talks of Fashola/Okorocha or any other Southerner for President. The characters and considerations behind the merger remains the same as in 2011 when it was Northern President and Southern VP. The case is even far stronger for that combination today. Folks can be as emotional as they want but a pragmatically big part of things for politicians, that the average man on the street remains too emotional to appreciate, falls on 'appeasing' the system to gain peace. This is very important to the politicians and not many will want 4 more years uncertainty and hesitancy that holds an entire nation to ransom. GEJ was a gamble in 2011. Today all doubts are removed and the entire world knows he is unconcerned about dealing with the insecurity of Nigeria. Even the West, in self-interest, would covertly work against GEJ returning because it is another 4 years of harder work for everyone. Even in the PDP, a Northerner would likely fly the flag in the end, all Presidential 'gra gra' and spending accounted for.

Some of us cannot and will never think like politicians. The thing they all want, worldwide, is the peace to lead or loot. Let us face it. GEJ will always be resisted. Had it being he is one to be brave in tackling security passionately, then some , to include even the West, may fall behind him in the spirit of confronting "evil" head on. As it is, no one, on any side, will be a fan of GEJ's dithering inaction and preference for praying and pleading while the nation burns. At the end of the day, Nigeria is bigger than GEJ. Those above me and you who make things happen, before we head to the polling booth, will appreciate this. It won't be what some immature and clannish folks want to hear but I believe the system will settle on a Northern President and Southern VP in 2015. For the APC, there is no best 11. More like a choice probably restricted to around 6 individuals.

Lol. You definitely have issues to work out with Elrufai,Oloun.You don't like him at all, he's still better than all the Northern governors out their and would be a sane choice if Buhari or Ribadu's candidacy do not fly(as it appears right now ). All those words you used in describing Elrufai actually depicts a typical politician.

Jarus: I'm personally not a big fan of el-Rufai. Somehow unprincipled and inconsistent IMO.

Good record as public servant, but I'm not convinced about his style of politics.

Throw his recent religious own-goal into the mix. And he is also not popular, even in the north.

Not sure he is my ideal candidate.

I'm fine with a Fayemi VP.

Am not total sold on El rufai too but he is the only relatively credible Northerner i can really think of at the moment.Ribadu isnt a politician at all,he doesnt have the skills that was so glaring in the last election and remember Apc will be full of the usual Nigerian politician with past records so Buhari candidacy will make them squrmish like spongebob squarepant
Whatever they choose to do,they have a real chance if they show serious political maturity.

danjohn: Fayemi na paper weight. We need to stop settling for "noncontroversial mediocre candidates." That has been the history of Nigeria from Shagari, to Obj, to Yaradua, to Goodluck. Think about it for one second. Nigeria always elects "noncontroversial mediocre candidates" for President. Fayemi may be better than his PDP predecessors but he is not on Fashola's level. Fashola's record as governor is more impressive than Fayemi's and I will not vote for Fayemi simply because he is a Christian. In fact, I would prefer to be at home on facebook and nairaland than vote for Fayemi if Fashola is alive. Despite the perceived drawbacks of a Muslim-Muslim ticket, I would encourage the leaders of the new opposition party to conduct scientific polling to determine if it is a real problem or just an excuse by some politicians to deny Fashola the chance of being on the ticket.

To be honest religion wasn't really a political issue,especially for most southerners but the emergence of Goodluck Jonathan has made it one and they are going to use CAN again for the same purpose unless true Christians stand up to save that body.
Fashola would be the most ideal candidate if APC can convince the Northerners to drop their sense of entitlement to the 2015 top tickets.Secondly, build a robust response to expected use of religion as a wedge issue by pdp

I think we actually have a chance to kick PDP out for good or at least mortally weaken it.The new merger is off with a good leverage;10 states governors and loads of national assembly seats.though acn guys have shown disappointing half hearted measures so far but with pdp in sight they are very manageable.
I would suggest an Elrufai/Okorocha ticket. El rufai though very talkative and unstable has got strong sense of character and will be good enough as we desperately need a sense of direction.
Okorocha is someone i don't really pay much attention to but joining the alliance upped my perception of him ,it reflects his maturity when others in his neck of the woods are virtually slobbering over pdp. One of the reasons why he would be good on the ticket is to make those from the East who just think they have a lot of unspent political capital in JOnathan have a rethink.The man has nothing to offer himself talk less of the East,under his watch the SE has been virtually cordoned by daring kidnappers.

My combination wont happen because I strongly believe a South westerner will definitely be on the ticket to assure the Acn. wing of the alliance so i would go with a northern governor and Kayode Fayemi of a Ekiti state;He is the only Christian Governor in the acn core.
A muslim/muslim ticket will be a tough sell(Buhari/fashola)right now

I pray the merger works,with just a stroke of the pen and a mutual consensus a new party controls 10 states and numerous house and senate seats: Massive leverage, I hope they see this,we have never been this close to having a shot,an opportunity to start allover again albiet with manageable political insiders
With a shockingly nutter party which has basically lost its very dubious direction, we actually have a chance to try another platform with Men who are not totally different but have shown needed foresight and maturity when it mattered
PDPs response to the new party has been really mediocre:it reflects the party and its approach to governance anyway.

Hmnn. train journey full of sappy tales
I thought we've move past the Era of muddies with multiple Ids.

I don't really know what apga brings to the table,seriously they are the weakest link in this arrangement and APC strategists need to factor this into their political permutations, going forward.
I was wary of ANPP too but Shekarau would be a good tool, up north, if treated properly in the arrangement.
And hopefully the ACN will stand up for what they believe in and not end up cutting a deal with PDP again,I still find it unbelievable PDP won Lagos in the last presidential election;they do not have the numbers nor the structure
A Young northerner on top of the ticket and a candidate sellable in the South west and Edo state,manageable for the rest of the south should do the trick or atleast shake of pdps grip on the country.

Nigeria has given a lot to Obasanjo but he failed Nigeria at a critical period,and the result is here.
Obasanjo should always end his criticism of this most unfortunate era with a public apology.
I have never been this hopeless for the future of this country,even the so called opposition have shown seriously little sign of being different
Mind boggling madness.

Another proof,conventional denominations and churches governed by rules ,matured independent MEN of God have been good for Christianity in the past and they also point to its proper future.One man riot churches have wreaked serious havoc on the credibility of Christianity.
Give me that old time religion!
Thank you Catholic church.

It will be foolhardy for us to sit idly while fundamentalist build empire adjacent our problem areas,we are still trying to curb BH.Getting involved makes a lot of sense.
All the best boys!!!

Really! how do we get our hands on the technology? Wonderful

This minister is the only believable person in the federal cabinet but this appear a bit boneheaded despite his relatively reasonable explanation . i cant wrap my thinking round it but a more sustainable frame work can be created, compared to handing phones to people there are better ways to block gaps and reduce duplications , fed government engaging in jobs of local authority isn't one of them.

He can ask the local government to provide him avenue through which the ministry can reach local farmers or create a website or national phone lines with local languages options which farmers can use for validation;A call through this lines at first would be for registration and any subsequent calls to the lines would generate or give a special subsidy code to the farmer which will be used as a proof that the farmer is entitled to subsidized fertilizer.there would be limit to the amount of subsidy a farmer can have access to within specified period to reduce abuse.There should be random verification of claims of being a farmer as well.

ba7man: Nigeria isn't working and Ghana still can't measure up economically with Lagos.....Now think if Nigeria gets her game together.

A living Dog they say,is better than a dead Lion

There's no need to cry,maybe we can learn one or two things from them,at least they learned from us how not to manage oil wealth and so far,they have done a good job.We can be 10 billion people but if we refuse to show capacity or display competence at using our numbers, then nothing for us.
I don't know why some of us get so upset when anything good is mentioned about Ghana,its in our ultimate interest to have prospering neighbours.

nagoma: Marriage is not important in the south where ssex is family business. Mothers , dauters and all participate , married or unmarried.

is that an excuse for the deliberate mass curtailment of girl education in the north

uplawal: This is what we muslims call enjoining good and forbidding evil,evils such as homosexualism,rape,illegitimate children,prostitution,masturbation etc and other psycological problems like depression,loneliness,mental disorder will not exist among them,thereby promoting better core family values, more increase in number of the population by offsprings such union produce, peace,and the sanity in their society,this is what Islam encourages.


I know for sure some ignorant umbelievers will reign abuses on this post,some hypocrite muslims and some muslims that says they "think" is a good idea because of what some people whom Allah has blindfolded,wandering blindly would say.
I dnt care really.just want more sane society which many south don't have.

There's nothing more insane than the commodification of women which is relatively higher in the northern part of our country.The north is being decimated by in-house,sponsored miscreants who are likely the products of mass marriages like this one;Boko haram is sure producing peace and family values you are refering to.I shake my head ,if truly you are women

Apparently Ohakim was a disaster which makes the current man a great relief but I would be surprised if he actually becomes a transformational governor.I have been following the governor for a long time even before he became the governor of Imo,he's a creation of those who just want a Fashola-esque character to brag about on Nairaland regardless of whatever.

PointB: Jarus did a fairly good job for most part of his tenure. However, for the last three months or so, Jarus somehow (deliberately or naturally) lost the plot.

He put in half hearted efforts in some of his own initiatives, arrogate to himself the power of judge, jury and executioner; and wielded the big stick (ban) frequently in a seemingly sadistic manner, against perceived enemies.

Later on his own suppressed ethic bigotry overwhelmed him, giving him a false sense of superiority and invincibility!

Then finally he failed to heed to Achebe's proverbial advice that: "A man does not challenge his Chi to a wrestling match," by taking on Seun the site owner, subtly and then full-frontal.

This is the true story of Jarus' reign. The story of a humble technocrat who became Abacha! A story other 'good' MODs will do well to learn.

But why this warped fate befalls 'good' MODs is a story for another thread!

You most times come across as a bloviator with no strong conviction whatsoever,ready to take any position just to have a long winded chat.It is shocking the admin. is pandering to the whims of people like you.Yes, people like you keep the forum going/active because of your love for soggy arguements

It makes a lot of sense ojare and i am not surprised,like I said on the thread congratulating the new MOd.,when you give powers to people you should also trust their judgement, elevating one of those people who have turned NL into a joke,one of those who water down any thread as they deem fit,obviously mean you do not trust the judgement of the current moderators and you rate them in the same category with your new moderator.

Seun: Yes, and also because he is a very passionate Nairaland member. He's either going to do a great job, or a terrible job, but he won't be mediocre.

So to you this is the best way to stir this platform/section in the right, more constructive direction.it calls certain things into question which i wont mention in other not to bring up already buried wedge .Traffic is good,it means money but impact is long lasting:I use to lurk around the Dailykos when it first started out and I still can't believe the impact that site is having on American socio-politics at the moment.
With due respect bro,when you give control/power to people you should trust their judgement

van bonattel: Ekiti? just another shithole like Oshun.

Nairaland is another shift hole becuase of people like you

So$ething is happening looto but we can hardly feel it For some of us who obviously over estimated the governors committment I would say:Somethingni ushe kan se ,seriously

I am very much interested in a responsive Ican,the development of the profession within the Nigerian context is strongly dependent on Ican trajectory and I pray they do more:work more on the huge credibility gap plaguing the system,make contributtions/Nigerian input to the standard making process rather than a wholesale lifting of the ifrs.A responsive Ican is good for us whether ACA or ACCA.

Progressive politics has kept Lagos alive and there's a direct correlation between the retrogression of ibadan and its politics.
Probably,when Lagos was out of reach for our fathers at the beginning because it was designated fed. capital,they sought to recreate it in Ibadan and they did to an extent:while there was no tv station in lagos, Ibadan already had one but when Eko fell back into our hands we left ibadan to ibadan people.
Ibadan is a Western asset,the Western government invested a lot of money in there hence re-energising the city should be an SW agenda,it should not be left in the hands of the indigenes alone,just like Lagos isn't.The way an average SWner of today feel a sense of bond and ownership of lagos was the same way most of our parents felt about Ibadan. Lagos was frittering away but Tinubu, to his credit brought life back into it,we can do same for ibadan.

i pray the present state government see this enormous asset.In fact, rebuilding Ibadan should be one of the core goal of the ACN .This should be the starting point for integration.

Lasinoh: Abeg make we hia sointin. . . after exposing the chief culprits aka moderators and 'SUPA-SUPAS'. . .aka butt handles. . . ."joystics and honeypots" . . . with all kinds of IDs to open all kinds of theads,. . .it would be STOOPID to question why others do!

Who petitioned for my release from 1 YEAR BAN. . .?

You for lef the ban for 5 years kpa-kpa. . .

DID I NOT TELL YOU THAT I WILL NEVER 'COMOT' FOR THIS NL FOR ANY OF YOU. . . ?

You thin say I dey joke?

Darling NL. . . .only death will part us oooooooooooooooooooooh!!!! FORAYVA AND AYVA!!!! AYYYY-MEM!

Ehen! maami don come with a lot to say,Iya mi osoromoniga mo always juba o

Mega city doesn't real mean a new city,its basically a fore cast driven adjustment of the state to expected population surge. I don't think mega city bla bla is the main idea behind building a new business distract called eko atlantic city.
Lagos just wants its own Docklands,and that's not a bad idea at all
but I don't suspect there's any business case or justification for the Abuja shenanigans and if there is I wouldn't care cos they hardly do anything right or make sense over their

The plumbers,architects,bricklayers etc would argue otherwise about the impact on the common person

Until governance in the exchange is cleaned up and strict rules are set up to fight against malpractices and insider dealing,no serious company would expose itself to the charade going on at the exchange.
Listing makes a lot of sense because it is bound to increase FDI:I know a company like MTN would be a big target.

By the way,Sanusi is full of hot air,sappy talk Oloun ngbo