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alj harem: The standard yoruba has always been Oyo. Lagos dialect we hear everyday is a corrupt form of Oyo dialect. The actual Lagos dialect is totally different

In Lagos today we say Bawo ni which is Oyo but actual Isale eko ancient dialect is Bawa n

Paul John: True.
The 'new' Lagos dialect he is referring to is the one formed from the old oyo dialect, but it is like the formed lagos dialect is taking over. visiting sw/yoruba state capitals and other major sw cities/towns, you will understand that the newly formed 'lagos' dialect(from the old oyo dialect) is more spoken for its stylish and appealing tone.

alj harem: The standard yoruba has always been Oyo. Lagos dialect we hear everyday is a corrupt form of Oyo dialect. The actual Lagos dialect is totally different

In Lagos today we say Bawo ni which is Oyo but actual Isale eko ancient dialect is Bawa n

Nope! Put apart the standard yoruba most of us speak :the Lagos one,you would see it's a mish mash of most of the dialects.
I would say(though not totally sure) Oyo would for example say kilowe(what did you say/mean) but by standard, most of us would say kilosso which to me is the corruption of ffor(speaking),a word normal associated with Ekiti/-jesha/Ondo/ijebu etc.Even words like Awe(friend/mate in Ekiti) is gradually creeping into the mainstream.

A proper assessment would tell us the standard Yoruba we speak is actually Lagos-Yoruba not Oyo. The economic influence of Lagos has continued to shape the way we speak the language and may threaten all the various dialects.

Ricky_Ross: Please bro say what you know. Your assertion of Vodaphone in Ghana shows you don't know what u r saying. I have businesses in Ghana and can comfortably tell you Ghana Telecom was much better than Vodafone. Vodaphone broadband has been messy since 2 years now. As i write now the link is off since 2 days. It goes off and on every day. When u call the office they wont come for several days, only when you pay BRIBE to Vodafone technicians they will come fix ur internet for you after they close work. I know at least 6 guys that work with Vodafone. 70% of Ghanians are against the sale of Ghana Telecom to Vodafone. It was corrupt politicians that sold this company. Ghana Telecom was doing ok, they have no reason to sell it. Now Vodafone came in and claimed to be bringing better service but the service is worst now.

I remember when it was Ghana Telecom if you apply for landline with broadband it takes 7 days for GT technicians to install for you but now it takes over 1 month for Vodafone to repair a faulty line not to talk of installing new ones. Everyone now pays bribe to vodafone technicians before they can do job they were employed to do.

As for 9ja broadband issues it is the government u will blame. I always wonder what happened to the broadband license OBJ gave to GLO as the second national carrier? For your info, MTN and other telcos do not have legal right to instal landlines with broadband in Nigeria. Only Glo have the right but I dont know why they have decided to concentrate on mobile telephony?

I wish we had a major investor fiddling with Nitel's asset that's rotting away as we speak.Assess me statement vis a vis what's happening to nitel.
I am not putting the country down in anyway.

PHIPEX: You are a typical example of what the guy is saying; always looking for reasons to talk down the country. I've been using 4G network for upto 2yrs here in Lagos. Have you not heard of Main-one broadband cable layed all the way from Europe and launched about 3years ago? People like you need to change your orientations. Nigeria needs investments and development wherever it can come from whether from Congo or Korea but that shouldn't be an excuse to see the country like[b] an 18th century local community[/b].

Where in my statement did that occur to you.Admitting you need help and asking for one doesn't necessarily mean weakness.you mentioned Congo but if the thread had mentioned how Congo could help us,the derision would have been out of this world.
I am sorry I have doubt on your 4g assertion but if true then nice one.Secondly,my knowledge is main-one services only/mainly businesses but i am referring to consumer broadband services.

speedyboi: If I do, I will be giving this article a sorta relevance.

Nigeria has:
a car manufacturing company.
Computer manufacturing company
And several consumer goods manufacturers.

And a country that has none of the first two is claiming more industrialization Cos they have 'assembling plants'. How ridiculous! Besides...Nigeria doesn't lack assembling plants in the first place sef.


One thing is that once you hype yourself, people will look at you that way (even if they've never been to your place before). A perfect example is: SW Nigeria, Ghana, SA and United states.
And when you abuse and degrade yourself in public, people will look at you that way (even if they've never been to your place before). A perfect example is Nigeria as a whole!


I was going through a thread of Damilola Adegvite's bday and someone asked a question like 'is that Nigeria'? I just shook my head and thought to my self.....Some people must really think NG is a sorta hellfire! All thanks to Nigerians, Nairalanders and Nairaland Forum that will always bring stupid threads like this to frontpage when other countries are busy hyping their countries through media

Typical pedestrian assessment of issues.We cannot boast of basic broadband internet in Nigeria while they just lunched 4g networks,do you know what that means,Mr. Nigeria? It sounds simplistic but the possibilities are enormous .Mtn after `10 years in Nigeria isn't even thinking of laying any broadband line or fibre optics cables cos we have failed woefully to tap the core technical skills these people have built over years by any means possible.They are basically using the Nigeria operation as a cash cow in their business portfolio to fund other expansions else where,with mindset like yours it will only continue.Go check out what Vodacom/vodafone is doing with former Ghana telecom,where is Nitel? mr.Nigeria.
Shior!

I expected the usual idiotic boasts and chest beating.Regardless of the internal problems in south Africa they have useful capabilities and competence we can latch onto and its our responsibility to organise ourselves and ask for them as a business partner,it wont be handed to us.
We freaking have a lot to learn and benefit from these guys,it takes nothing away from us.Ego and size is irrelevant here.
NL should be made friendly to people who could learn from us and also teach us a great deal,for those who want to wallow in fluffy nationalism and arrogance this is isn't 'who sings better thread' this is about business and national development.

Fasehun is running with the talking points ,already.I expect him to be more shamelessly bold as we move towards 2015,when those who have commissioned him will be asking for more explicit actions
Gone are the days when Swners fixate on Northerners and how powerful they are,that is so pre-june 12.its now the job of new comers to national politics,we already humbled them .
I have no doubt in mind that Nigeria and her people deserves something far better.

siddiq202: You tell me how the use of hijab stops one from learning

I really do not understand why young girls would be forced to adorn such covering in the scorching Lagos sun.Typical Nigerian style; misplaced priority.Why cant mssn fight for better school conditions?it wont happen.Go look up the meaning of uniform.

But your other ids have always been on his erand and respected him ,innit brof?

The headline would have been SS/SE HAVE TAKEN THEIR ALLIANCE TO A NEW LEVEL;ASARI DOKUBO PROTESTS FOR BIAFRA.

mekaboy: Just incase these pple get in trouble, they should know they are on their own.

Except Asari dokubo is invovled. You would have hailed it with the usual, laughable acronym SS/SE alliance.Amjavascript:void(0); trying to imagine your reaction if you had any of the oil-hugging loud-mouths present at the rally.

PREMIER_YORUBA: Very nice response! Display of courage in SS is helping SE to find a voice behind which to declare its interests.

There is no courage in kamikaze it is purely suicide bro,these guys have shown shocking inability to manage this opportunity ,which could open door of continuous political relevance to them.And we should be careful not lump everyone together cos some other groups within same political contraption have been surprisingly silent but I still wouldnot agree Dokubo is speaking for the Efik, for example.

BY THE WAY,NAIRALAND IS SUPPOSED TO BE A NIGERIAN FORUM.THE WAY STRONGLY ANTI-NORTHERN THREADS HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO FESTER HERE,WE SHOULD JUST CLASSIFY IT AS A SOUTHERN FORUM.SURPRISINGLY,IF NOT FOR SOUTHWESTERNERS,IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A BIG FEAST

This new Anti- muslim tactics will not only fail,it's likely to back fire. As a christian I have no doubt in mind that I want a new direction in 2015 and I want pdp out.
Secondly,isn't it very shameful,we now have a minority lining up talking points for leaders of a majority ethnic group and they seem to be running away with :Ezeife after all his years in Nigeria politics is now sounding like Dokubo lasan lasan,some people will never learn. No difference in Dokubo's infantile rantings and all he said here. We all know what Faseun is up to with his UPN but he hasn't been boldly running around with the talking points handed to him,Ezeife should take a cue from him and show some respect for the long term interest of his people.
By the way I strongly disagree with the blanket use of southern Nigeria,they should desist from it,Ezeife and/or Dokubo can never speak for me.

Shior

An indirect warning to those who suddenly found power thrust upon them and have found it difficult to manage;we are having none of your desperate southern BS to prop up what's definitely not in our interest.We are committed to a functional and prosperous Nigeria and no self-serving resource-nationalism can stop our resolve.
your naive and uncouth approach to politics,governance is galvanising strange bedfellows everyday.

paraphrasing Tinubu.

caesaraba: Chai! If I hear say we are frustrated. There are many things An iPad offers you that a pc just can't. Portability is chief among those things.

Goto PCworld or scan the net and check out the toshiba z930 an ultra-book. Ultra-flat and weighs only 1.2kg. There are more functional and useful computers out there,the Ipad seem to be more useful to my 3-year old nephew and i love the way he handles it;very useful for mickeymouse clubhouse and the rest of his favs tv shows.
justJokes ,i respect people's choice

funnyx: I cannot but laugh when I see a lot of deluded lost souls on NL claiming to be Yoruba, today its their mum that is Yoruba, tomorrow its their father yet all they go about on NL is to attack anything Yoruba who is fooling who?.
A Yoruba adage says Omo ale nii fi owo osi juwe ile baba re another one says ti a ba ta ara ile eni lopo a o lee ri ra lowon
Please we have heard enough of how much Yoruba you are, could you just make your contribution and waka pass.

As we get closer to 2015, there will be more 'I am Yoruba,not just the typical one' usernames.brace up,Awe.

The bottom line is ,having a Sustainable and reliable e-banking capability isn't a choice for any bank describing itself as a new 'generation':ebanking is now a core aspect of any serious banking so no excuse here.
Any serious bank should be investing heavily on IT and building customer confidence on its IT infrastructure because at the end of the day,the more they (customers) use it, the less need for more branches and the likelihood of reducing the ones on ground.
Diamond would need to take this thread seriously , assess its capacity to deliver and make necessary amendment.It's alright to unleash your staff on the thread for the sake of publicity but the real thing is actually listening.
Hopeful you get your money back,boss .

Geezle: This is not peculiar...these guys have learnt hw to tap into people's tokens without having the device physically. They know the serial numbers of different tokens and the accts they r linked to. i believe there is a software that generates the token's code if activated. It happened in GTB late last year...they zapped someone's money amounting to millions (the acct and owner were based in Abuja). Very clean, effortless. Na only conscience fit worry them.

Our banks are not yet matured for these secure transactions and so they use cheap (so to say) methods of securing funds.Our monies are not safe...they say use online banking or else we'll charge u for over the counter transactions...RUBBISH

njazra: Did you receive any mail from diamond bank telling you to click on a link to activate your account or confirm your account? I think your account was hacked(Phishing), some hackers might have send you a fake link that looks like the real diamond bank and prompt you to update your account. I receive those emails every time from those hungry scammers, they are very smart and heartless.

Its better you write the ICPC or EFCC and let them investigate the account the money was transferred to, Sorry bro.

blkmum700: @op
i think You have fall a victim of Phishing scam,Maybe you Updated link sent to your email by fraudster,it's doesn't matter if you share your computer or not,Once you click on a Phishing scam site and update your information,the information automatically goes to the fraudster email address which they use later to log into the Original bank website,but i still think the bank should be able to arrest the account owners where the funds are transferred to since you said you don't transfer those money,it's very stupid for them to tell you an email was sent to your computer and if they can't arrest the account owner then it must be an insider job that's why they don't want to arrest them.Please search for Phishing scam on google so you don't fall a victim again.

why are u guys sounding as if this is some hitech machinations,even if an account is hacked into,the hacker would still need to add payees before any movement could take place,what stops the bank from sending an instant text to the mobile phone on the account that a new payee has been added.
The incompetence of most Nigerian businesses is mind boggling and they hardly show remorse.I am sad,very sad

bigx: Its not a Nigerian but a Global thing, human emotions cause it and we are in a free economy so Govt has no business (ideally) in the market.
I've spent the last 2 years buying undervalued stocks,
This year the market has started booming again, and that's when everyone wants to put in their money, this is the time wise people pull out their money/reap from their investments because people looking to make quick money would load their life savings into the market, simple economic laws of demand and supply would would shoot prices through the roof (at which point those who were wise to buy in the quiet period sell off speculative holdings), as money is pulled out, prices tumble, late entrants make little or nothing, then blame Government and the Devil

We need to stop wholly attributing the collapse of the Nigerian stock market to the global melt down,one the nigerian market as at then, wasn't integrated to the global system and the only effect of the melt down was that panicky foreign investor were reducing their exposures in far away market to mainly block leakages elsewhere.
Two,the Nigerian market was totally rigged ,insider dealing was rife:people were ripped off .
If you can't vouch for the company don't invest except you are a speculator.

googlepikin: see dis one, the thing is for you not suicide bombers.boko haram dey use internet throw bomb? Those people wey dey call Mr president shoeless foool. But guess what we go beat the company hands down by using wifree, sandwich etc (vpn) cos mine shows that I'm browsing from Germany that's if I choose Germany server. Hahahaha. We are too smart in dis obodo Nigeria to be caught dat easily. Guys dey hustle for the next cheats as I speak for computer Village incase if them block dis MTN magic sim.

Where did you get the picture of SIncerenigeria HQ

Goddex: The contract is for "intelligence gathering and national security."
So, what's the big deal Mr Premiumtimes?

If not for measures like these put in place by Isreal, that country would have
been wiped out the surface of the earth by those blood-sucking jihadists that surround them.

It is a very good security move by the government.

The contract is a vote of no confidence on you and your mates who have been obviously mandated to flood the net and create the impression of 'happy citizen' The Israelis will go further by monitoring Jonathan himself for their own national security.
Oya,Lai Muhammed,awe over to you

The lethargy from people in this state is just shocking. He speaks recklessly,he spends recklessly and his politics is reckless and no one from Akwa ibom seems to care.
For my side people will talk and shout sha ni .if Gani(rip) keeps quiet,Falana or Odumakin go talk ,if not,there will be a pst. Bakare waiting to mount the pulpit
Yoruba kare laye!Smh

Eko Ile: He's definitely making abati and okupe including the laptop clowns work hard for their crumbs..

This man has become the biggest tool in the hand of the opposition,seriously who needs Tinubu when Lai is in charge

I initially,do not really pay attention to this man but in recent times i have come to ask myself why they quickly react to whatever he says.Take a look at Abati and Okupe releasing statements probably minutes apart just because Lai believes JOna shouldn't come to lagos tmrw

The “Politician of the Year” award conferred yesterday upon the robust and tireless spokesman of the opposition in Nigeria, Alhaji Lai Mohammed, by the Leadership newspaper is an important development for our young democracy.

From the reactions, the honour to him surprised only a few. For most people, the surprise is that despite his career of public and media advocacy spanning thirty-five years, it took this long, long time for any major award giver to recognize Lai’s excellence. But it is often said that we have a weakness for not recognizing obvious distinction.

My attitude to this is that everything has its time. There are many who are like me whose bags are always the last to come at the baggage hall on arrival at airports. This is irrespective of whether one had travelled business or economy, or whether one had checked in late or early. Your bags finally arrive when co-travelers are already being hugged by their welcome parties. Lai’s award at this time fits into this: better late than never.

The pedagogy of what Lai Mohammed is doing is that it teaches Nigerian politicians to practice politics by the power of the word. When you see what they are doing in the British Parliament you will notice that there is a tradition there of debate powered by eloquence and the choice of words. They used to say this for our First Republic politicians. When those colourful politicians like the late K. O. Mbadiwe, Tafawa Balewa, Zik and Awolowo took the floor, whether in parliament, on the soapbox, radio or newspaper interview, they knifed opponents and their ideas to death using words not knives. They did not use guns and machetes as we have nowadays.

We have a vibrant media in this country. The traditional media – the TV, Radio and the print press have tremendous impact on this society and that’s where Lai is the master. He speaks on a relevant issue every day, writing his releases with aptitude, fineness, tightness and precision giving news editors very little room to maneuver. The new media, the SMS, the blogs, twitter, facebook and so forth are equally important and are gradually making inroads here. There too, Lai is increasingly present.

Lai is the standard bearer when the issue is opposition research and politics. It is not an easy thing to have the entire gamut of the Nigerian government on the defensive but there is Lai for you. Like an old Marxian propagandist, Lai, unlike most political actors, has empathy towards the people. You cannot be a leader when you don’t share feelings of the people. To that extent, he is proactive, always the one taking the battle to the ruling government and party.

Give or take from this, Lai has used effective communication to paint the present administration, of which his party is in opposition, as one that doesn’t address problems until they reach a crisis point; that it is a government grossly incompetent without vision, policies and future direction for the country; that today’s government is not focused on the problems of the people and the nation but focused on amassing personal wealth by hook or by crook. Lai has been successful in painting this administration a coalition of like-minded crooks who, bent on clinging to old privileges, are driving the country along primordial lines.

Reactions to Lai from the party and government are mostly crude and tasteless. Time and again, the people speaking for the government and party have the habit of putting their foot in the mouth without any rhyme, rhythm or reason. They have been unable to present the true picture of the opposition to Nigerians, which is one of toothlessness and characteristic opportunism, for, many in the opposition camp are just waiting to get the chance to loot the people and bleed Nigeria as the others revel in doing. I used to get inspired by the effectiveness of a certain Kunle Babade, the zonal spokesman of PDP against Lai in the South-West. This was before the zonal executive was dissolved using a questionable method. As has become the tradition of the party, whatever PDP builds, PDP destroys.

I think the ruling party and government need to introspect. For instance, when you look at the structure of the PDP, you see that the publicity secretary of the party, that is Lai’s opposite number is an elected official zoned to a section of the country as part of a power-sharing formula. In filling this position, they don’t recognize professionalism. Nearly all the PDP publicity secretaries I can remember are lawyers. If they can’t make a journalist to become the Legal Adviser of the party, why do they make lawyers Publicity Secretary? I have heard some people say the party needed a publicity bureau or directorate staffed by professional media men with an unmediated authorization to engage with the media. When they do this, they may stand a chance of ridding the party of its image of an “anything-goes-organization.”

Under PDP, Nigeria is a false democracy. The dictatorial high-command style of a dominant few has ensured that the interests of the ordinary folk remain under the feet of the ruling few. This clique is so intolerant that they cannot stand anyone making a comment on them. There are no words to describe a people who are not ashamed of anything so long as there is power and money. Year in, year out, this dominant group goes on making stupid and careless mistakes in the mistaken belief that Nigerians have no option but to stick to the PDP. With this attitude, this country will forever bleed. Nigeria is headed for a disaster, if not already. This is when a politician like Lai becomes the need of the hour
by-garba-shehu

A market woman in Ibafo would probably look at the total shut down and retort; Okurin president yi sha ,sha na because of ordinary pangolo plant lasan,ni wahala to eyi.Her conclusion in one word:#irojuraye baba iranu.

eGuerrilla: Quite disappointing to hear someone as exposed as NOI advancing views that portray her as an ethnocentric chump partaking in one of those "we are better than the rest" discussion threads one gets to read on Nairaland

Unfortunate - this is.

I am surprised you are disappointed,you need to look at this women well.Seriously,since her embellished records and achievements have been torn apart by the subsidy issue and her inability to hide behind better,tested and savvy technos like she did during obj regime ,she's resorted to shocking ethnocentric shenanigans to remain relevant
Okonjo Iweala so far had no Bode augusto,Mukhtar,Esekwesili,Elrufia,Ribadu to hide behind and the result is a faltering and direction-less economy saved only by the shift in Geo-economic preference.

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Quaritch: Lt-Col Yakubu Gowon (left), Nigeria's new military Ruler, walks with Chief Obafemi Awolowo following Baba Awo's release from jail, 1966 . Source: Historic Images

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Quaritch: Chief Awolowo being sworn in as a member of the Federal Executive Council and Head of the Economic Advisory team.

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uote author=Quaritch]Chief Awolowo being sworn in as a member of the Federal Executive Council and Head of the Economic Advisory team.

https://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/550227_2933684663675_1157037036_n.jpg[/quote]And we were told he never tasted the presidency.These pictures tell me,in substance he was once our president,at the most critical juncture of our national life.Abi una no see how Gowon,supposedly a Gcfr,dey follow Awo for back.Ojomiloju ke! .He has a GCFR to show for it gan sef
please look at these pictures and tell me who was the president

samkoro: The simple answer is marriage works better between the Igbo man and Yoruba woman than between the Yoruba man and Igbo woman.

This is because the Igbo man takes more care of his woman and family while the yoruba man is a little careless abt his woman;he is from a culture that easily marries a second or third wife.Having concubines is a common place in yorubaland than in Igboland.And it is a given that there are more divorces in yoruba land than Igbo land.

As a result of the above,a yoruba girl finds a better love and care in the arm of a gentler and taciturn Igbo man while the Igbo woman with high expections as a result of her cultural back ground becomes dissappointed at the arms of a yoruba man who might have swept her off her feet at the innitial time with choreographed ''effizy''.

Obviously you and/or your mate(below) who started of this childish generalisation are not taciturn or gentle in any way,It seems to me a lot of you here grew up with some severe ethnic inferiority complex(You probably grew up among Yoruba) and you are using methods like this one to encourage yourself or possibly fight back,no other way to explain the shocking fixation of some of you with the Yoruba ethnic group.

Ejiné: I don't mean to incite a tribal war, but why is it that all the Igbo women I know who married Yoruba men don divorce dem sharp sharp?

Steph-Nora Okere don quickly dump and erase her Yoruba husband, and this Ikwerre Monalisa lady has also divorced her abusive husband, who also happens to be Yoruba...

Does this have something to do with family values or are all these dudes just isolated cases? But then again, they just happen to be too numerous to mention.

And it's not just Igbo women divorcing them... Even Yoruba women divorce them in record numbers - Ayo Adesanya is one of the many cases.

And also, if this link from Linda Ikeji is anything to go by, Monalisa's ex-husband quickly went on to marry a Louisiana-based lady Lamide Richards (Yoruba), who has quickly seperated from him and filed for divorce in less than a year, making this the man's THIRD failed marriage

http://lindaikeji..com/2012/11/monalisa-chindas-ex-husbands-second.html?m=1

Please, bigots should kindly stay off. I'd really like answers from reasonable Yoruba people on this issue.
My guess tells me it has to do with their history of polygamy, but it's a wild, dumb guess from me anyway

You would hardly get a reasonable answer because what you wrote above is utterly unreasonable and its not unexpected going by your antecedents on this platform.