₦airaland Forum

spectroscopic:
We know for you it's about Osibanjo/Tinubu in 2023. May I ask you a question. After Tinubu/Osibanjo finishes two terms in 2031 and Nigeria does not get significantly better (which some of us believe it will not) will you be inclined to Nigeria separating at that time? I am just curious if for you (and people like you) it is a matter of time, or never it is at all. I was never a separation person but after seeing the gloom that's coming, I am beginning to support the idea. It just needs to be thoughtful and agreed by all.

separation of this country will not change anything

Igbos won't be better off
Yoruba will not be better off

And Aboki for sure won't be either

The mindset of the typical NIGERIAN (whether igbo or Yoruba or whoever) is the albatross of the country

If you like draw 100 borders

If that does not change
it remains a shithole

spectroscopic:
OIL, the reason for some wanting Nigerians to stick together for life, is finite. I propose that if necessary, as an incentive, a formula to share oil revenue among the separated countries for 10 years can be arrived at, with international support and agreement. This will allow every group to financially develop themselves internally during the interlude. After 10 years, oil revenue reverts to the owners of each oil well.

Thankfully, we now know that oil is not the biggest deal in NIGERIA. Funds From Nigerians living overseas surpassed Oil & Gas earnings in 2018 at $25b against $18b from Oil.

Who are the Nigerians living overseas and sending these billions back to Nigeria? Igbo, Yoruba, Edo and the rest, in that order. You see, with this fact, Igbos will do well in their own country.

Igbos (South East) should exclude non-Igbo and unwilling Igbo South South people from their desired Biafran State, and make a strong case at the UN level for their own country.

It is a win-win for each region to live separately as independent countries. Assuming it is a ''Nigerian factor'' holding the country down. Separately, the North will do well with their massive land and agricultural potential. With Lagos, the West is easily the most developed part of Nigeria and will potentially keep that going. The Igbos are the most resilient Nigerians and have great human resource and acumen to survive and potentially develop themselves. The SS has oil as well as human resources to potentially develop.

this biafra narrative again?

Neduzze5:
I can see my name up there... You are welcome... Don't mention, what are friends for na?

interesting

KenModi:
Usless telecommunication provider. MTN like its contemporaries - Glo, Airtel and 9mobile, provide the poorest of the poorest services while relentlessly exploiting its subscribers.

The NCC which has as its main responsibility to protect Nigerians from exploitation is as useless as the alphabet ‘p’ in the word ‘psychology’.

Nigerians know this but still continue to use the network providers while not making any effort to call on the NCC to perform its duties and when u ask them why they continue to behave his way, they give you replies such as “wetin person go do na?!”

Well what do you expect from a people who are so dumb to the point that they came out enmass to vote for the two worst candidates on the ballot sheet (who blantantly refused to participate in televised debates on burning issues with regards the nation’s present and future) while deriding other outstanding candidates with better policies and proposals on how to make their lives better.

A people so corrupt, greedy and self-centered that almost every office you visit, public and private, workers would be asking you to “drop something” or to “wet ground”....even also immigration officers at airports.

To add to that Nigerians are cowards and they would always tell you “na who wan die”.

Go look at Sudan and Algeria, and how the ordinary people are braving even death to take back their lives and futures from those who have stolen it for decades.

That is the kind of people I want to be associated with, not the cowards who call themselves ‘Nigerians’ while beating chest up and down about irrelevant tribal and religious issues

The government is not the problem, the citizens from whom the government officials were selected are the ones responsible for the total rot of the nation. A nation without a present or a future.

And almost every single citizen wants to leave the country at all cost for ‘greener pastures’, hence they keep embarassing themselves at home and abroad.

Useless citizens of a dead nation!

You have said it all

AngelicBeing:
Hahaha, useless embassy ke, America is the greatest country on earth, the whole world cannot ignore the US, don't blame them, Africa should fix their respective countries, hold their thieving politicians responsible for the chaos, ineptitude, corruption, senseless killings, injustice that cuts across the continent

indeed

hate it or like it

America is the worjd greatest country


At least for now

so it's theur time to do shakara

harlee:
very true,at the moment am at kasoa.but I have been laying low with no illegal movement.its true some naija for here no dey try...

WTH are you doing in Kasoa

safarigirl:
Same reason some men (not all) slam women for not making money, and still slam the women who make money.

Same reason men slam women who sleep with them, and slam those who refuse to sleep with them.

Everyone is a hypocrite and enjoys double standards

I was about to talk about your second paragraph

And that is so true


However, not all of us are hypocrites

Some of us see things dispassionately

wisdomkid:
Says a guy who has not seen a real life Airplane before. It's amazing how we wish for things we don't have.
While their men are eagerly searching for Black Women over there.

the truth is that we crave for what is different

that's it

variety is the spice of life

safarigirl:
there is NO LAW mandating any woman to pay legal support, you know why? Because in Nigeria, unlike America, 97% of marriages have the man as breadwinner. You cannot compare apples to oranges, it makes utter nonsense of your points.


While I appreciate your enthusiasm to track broken marriages, I highly doubt you know up to 1000 couples paying spousal support in Nigeria, so tone it down and come with facts, you make further nonsense out of your arguments by pulling numbers out of thin air.

Women slam men for demanding spousal support, it is a normal thing. Nigerian ladies or not. You lot just enjoy demonizing Nigerian ladies because it makes you feel good. When J Lo started paying Marc Anthony spousal support, do you know how many women kicked against it? I am talking about your prized American women. Maybe you need to expand yoir horizons, to get a better perspective of global issues. Do you know how many American men have been jailed for not paying child support? Do you think anyone jails Nigerian men for not paying child support?

Because of one or two stories you hear of foreign women paying their men, you think the men have it good in life? Do you know the millions more who have been dealt a bad hand by the women? Then, you come here and slam Nigerian women. If Nigerian women treated the men the same way foreign women treat theirs, Nigerian men would run out of this country.

Nigerian men seize every opportunity to drag the women, even when this country is one of the most difficult countries in the world for women to thrive. A single woman can't even rent a house with her own money, yet, you are comparing them to women from nations with developed laws.


Read wider and stop posting for likes and clout. Educate yourself. Nigeria has not seen true feminism, so, don't just come here and use the term, then compare the beginners in Nigeria to a grounded system.


Have a nice day yourself, and don't forget to read.

the question then becomes


WHY do SOME women (not all tho)
slam men for collecting support while at the same time cheer women to milk their ex husband's regardless of the circumstances that led to the end of the marriages in the first place?


It's a double standard and HYPOCRITICAL And it is NOT a normal thing


Apart from that......

I kinda like your view from the Nigerian women perspective

Fact is

they get the short end of the stick most times

Joshmodest:
I feel you bro...in the real sense of things she should pay , the guy must have slowed down ,for her career to rise to its peak,a and now she wants to chicken out ...just like what billz did for tiwa , tiwa should have paid if there was a law like that ,cos they both accused each other of infidelity without evidences ,if you remember !!
My issue is feminism shouldn't just be about if he cheats why can't she cheat , we work the same hours why should he earn more , I cook why can't he , we should do the chores 50: 50...
Just like freeze once said if a travelling bus , gets faulty on the road and there's need to push , it's the guys who come down to push, why the girls balance inside the bus , why can't they come and push as well isn't it 50:50, when something gets faulty in the house that requires man power the word is "wait for your daddy "....I once read a piece on twitter by a popular OAP feminist , saying even if her husband gives her 2 million to wash her hands , and he borrows 2k from her , he has to pay that 2k back no matter what - valid point expect it wouldn't be same if it was the other way round !!!
A woman is paying spousal support what's the big deal , men do it alot and it seems normal thing to do , a woman is doing it now and people are labelling the innocent man lazy ,how is that ?

no mind these hypocrites

Whoever is liable to pay should pay

#EOD

If a man is entitled to collect; you better collect

what is sauce for goose is sauce for gander

abbey621:
Our population is around 200 million, workforce is about 40% of that = 80 million. Of those 80 million about 70% are underemployed or struggling entrepreneurs, leaving about 21 million. This means 21 million or 10% of the population could potentially be middle class, when you add yahoo boys, low level politicians and other scammers, we might be looking at 12-15% of the population.

it's a shame

SexynSerious:
Nope. What you have in Nigeria are only the super rich and the poverty stricken.


Weep, my beloved country

true

rusher14:
Lol.

You are writing absolute tosh with confidence.

The private sector is meant to be the axle on which the economic wheel revolves.

The private sector suffers in Nigeria because it lacks a richly educated workforce , bedevilled by the ingranied culture of corruption in the average Nigerian, as well as obvious lack of creativity.

A country of 200 million inhabitants expecting government to employ majority of the unemployable.

don't take it the wrong way

BUT

You don't know what you are talking abt


The no1 duty of govt is to create an ENABLING ENVIRONMENT for businesses to THRIVE

without that, how can the economy move?

And you think the govt is not to blame?


You are NOT SERIOUS

Joromi12:
Middle class wey remain are all processing canada

You know what's up

MissRaine69:
There is no middle class you either have money or you don’t. Those that don’t have money are either Lower-lower class, lower- middle class or upper- lower class.
Those that have money are either comfortable, rich or wealthy.

I like your description

upper lower / lower upper lmao

abbey621:
This is the way I see it, if you have your own house that you built or bought, 2 or more vehicles and have over 10 million in your account, you are middle class. Anything below this is lower class or average. For you to be considered truly wealthy in Nigeria, you must own more than one house and have over 100 million in cash or financial investments like bonds, fixed deposit, TB, etc.

Your analogy is more like it

Hence my question

WHAT IS THE % OF NIGERIANS THAT FIT INTO THAT BRACKET?

Middle class in NIGERIA is dead and FINISHED
with no growth in it.

the last time we really had a BIG middle class was in obj second term

GEJ time had some semblance of that too


but the current bastard we have as presidiot has killed NIGERIA with his draconian policies and foolishness


The purchasing power of most Nigerians are worse off today as compared to say 2014

unemployment is now worse, hence increasing the excruciating pain of extra dependents on the already struggling and beleaguered workforce

Shame of a country

they are so pretty

this funny thread lol

9jaRealist:
First, what is it about a basic concept like we have to define/locate Nigeria’s problems to be able to resolve it misled you into thinking that I am calling for the British to fix Nigeria? And what is it about clearly (and repeatedly) saying that we have UNDERACHIEVED confused you?

Nonetheless, for the avoidance of any doubt, let me reiterate that yes British colonial rule is at the corpus of our situation - not least because there would have been NO Nigeria (a name bequeathed by Lady Lugard) and Nigerians (perhaps most of us would not even share the same nationality) to “mess” Nigeria up. This leads me to the related issue highlighted in your post above. Right here on Nairaland, many comments repeatedly regurgitate the phrase “I am Yoruba/Ibo/Efik/Ijaw/Bini/etc., before I am Nigerian” while so many others even disclaim Nigerian nationality ENTIRELY! Accordingly, if you think that Nigeria can be fixed and state-capture (which is effectively what corruption amounts to) dealt with by people who do not believe they have any collective stake in this British-created enterprise, then I’ve a bridge in Lekki to sell you.

For the umpteenth time, corruption is merely a SYMPTOM of our underlying core national issues. We have to start from Ground Zero!
.

in your opinion
what is the bigger issues

I agree with some of points, and I like the way you think

I'm a fan (sometimes )

grandstar:
Thanks for the correction. Appreciated.

Why do the very rich have a lot of children?. Abrahamovich has five and if I'm correct, David Beckham as well.

it's more like the poor having many many children

Poor folks breed like FVCKING rabbits

aare07:
You know both of them but none of them knows you

nice response

Princedapace:
Yahoo boys don't care if u are a Nigerian or not.. In 2013, I lost about 67k in my uba acct to naija scammers who got my card details via online..

About a month ago, my babe mother lost over 200k to yahoo boys who called her and made away with the old woman's card details.. The woman became sick for weeks. She lost weight. Those guys are wicked.

Fraud is fraud.. Nigerians celebrate wealth so much without minding where it is coming from.. It is the reason we have the type of leaders we have. Why? We celebrate anything money. That is why leaders will steal our money, then use the money to oppress Nigerians becus they know Nigerians will worship them.

It is that mindset to make money that has pushed many youths into fraud. This thing called fraud has finished us badly. It is terrible..

A lady decided to marry an old man becus of money, instead of leaving the babe or attacking the babe, some people are busy insulting her ex bf. Insulting him to go and hustle. I mean, hustle for what na? That is how we push our selves into fraud. In Nigeria, just go and make money at all costs..

I don't wish to raise kids in this clime.. It is a disgrace to the world..

You have spoken well.

raising kids in Nigeria is a risk

MENTALITY is not cool

pocohantas:
Highlights on Unemployment Report in Nigeria (Q3 2018) by NBS

1. The overall unemployment rate is 23.1%. This comprises of people that are willing to work but can't find a job. 60% of these Nigerians fall within the age of 18-35years.

2. Nigeria's underemployment rate is 20.1%. People that work less than 8hrs a day.

I always thought underemployed are people who work plenty for little pay . I will stick to my definition.

3. During the quarter Q3 2018, 26.6% of women within the labour force (aged 16-64 and willing, able, and actively seeking work) were unemployed, compared with 20.3% of men within the same period.

4. The highest unemployment rate is in Akwa Ibom at 37.7%.

5. The lowest unemployment rate is in Osun State at 10.1%.

6. The region with the lowest average unemployment rate is the South West at 14.3%.

7. Region with the highest average unemployment rate is the South South at 31.29%.

8. The South East has an average unemployment rate of 23.41%.

9. North West has an average unemployment rate of 23.29%.

10. North Central has an average unemployment rate of 23.34%.

https://www.nigerianstat.gov.ng/

https://www.proshareng.com/news/Nigeria%20Economy/Labour-Day-Celebrations--NBS-2018-Figures-Reveal-A-coming-Job-Market-Distress/45135

thanks for sharing

BLUEJAYY:
I shall never get the logic behind shagging just ONE person for a long time.

It's totally boring. I can't do it. We're all attracted to variety and are hardwired to like many different things. There's no point fighting against our natural instincts to be what we're not.

I mean it's not a crime to shag different people so why the restrictions?

The reason I'll never understand marriage or any closed relationship.

that's our basic primordial instinct as human

but its good to.control oneself

Akuruoulo:
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oya sorry for telling u shut up

naa no need for that
I did not take offense

Saffi:
Men cannot handle cheating partners mentally like women do and that is just the truth. If you tell him now, the thought of you opening your legs to another man will constantly play in his head when he looks at you, which will eventually ruin your marriage. As a woman, if you cheat on your husband, you must take it to the grave otherwise you have yourself to blame.

To the sex part, encourage your hubby to look appealing for you. Work out together, eat well, mould him into the man that you want him to be physically. Tell him what you want him to do in bed. There’s only so much you can do, but for the sake of your vows and your home, good sex is really not worth it. You have to mentally train yourself to avoid temptation, that is the only way to stay faithful. And realistically most couples go through this at one point, so don’t beat yourself up too much. Dust your shoulders and do better and do not risk your family and your marriage for prick again. It is a temporary satisfaction and You will regret it.

interesting perspective there


But there are men who still forgive their wives and move on tho.

Akuruoulo:
. shut up my friend. advice women on how to hold their tongues. know what to say and to say it. Have u ever seen a rich woman talking to a poor man before?

women hitting men is something I will NEVER SUPPORT
That is what I said.
That also there isaa typo.
the media has conditioned women.to.think it's okay to do so but it's not

MrBrownJay1:
Exactly... It's as if they want to completely erase their past ( aka the reasons they are even newsworthy)

it's nothing to be ashamed of


for many here; their fathers and mother's has exes...

nothing change

no big deal

MrBrownJay1:
So because she got married and had a baby she isn't Wizkid's ex any longer?! Sue for what exactly...Telling the truth?!

I wonder why people even see it as offensive

at some point in her life, wizkid was the man in her life, and that will not change, neither is it something to b ashamed of.

You used to date someone and the relationship no work

so what?

franchasng:
I don't blame ladies for being wayward and jumping around sleeping with entertainment celebrities anyhow, I blame some dumb men who honor them with marital ring/dignity after they have wasted their youthful years sleeping around with drug addicted, tramadol addicts calling themselves music artistes

I am sure too, after Davido is done destroying Chioma's oil sump, one low life maga will go and carry her as wife, tufiakwa for some men sha

what is this fool saying now?

That women who have had relationships in the past are not qualified to get married?

what kind of stupid mindset is that?

a woman is much more than a pleasure means

TheFacelessMan:
I was a gigolo on the beaches of The Great Gambia many decades ago...u

so you were one of them lmao

the practice is still going on in serekunda o