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LordAdam16:
My first post on this thread gave great insight about the fact that black Africans would certainly have achieved a lot in ancient civilizations. There were black people in Egypt so it is conceivable that there were black people in Rome, Greece, and Christian Europe.

The issue however is not achievements, it is African supremacy.

Don't mix the two. Achievements is I did something. Supremacy is I did something and I am better than you.

And as I said, while we can acknowledge the achievements of black Africans as individuals and even as a people in sub-Saharan Africa, we SIMPLY CANNOT translate that to African supremacy. That's a line we MUST not cross because all evidence point to the contrary.

A few pages ago, Rossikk was mentioning paved roads in Ife as proof of African supremacy and I reminded him that Egypt already had paved roads at least 2000 years before Oduduwa existed.

So, while you can call Ife paved roads an achievement like we can call Bini art an achievement, we cannot call it evidence of black African supremacy. Because the people these uninformed people claim to be superior to have had far grander achievements for centuries before our core sub-Saharan civilizations existed.

Don't praise yourself by lying about someone else.

Earlier on, they were subtly claiming the Moors started the wave of cleanliness in Europe by building many public baths. Whereas ancient Romans already had the practice of building public baths.

They're doing the exact same thing the White Supremacists were doing in the 18th century. Lying through their teeth.

The difference between white supremacists and black supremacists is color of skin. Deep down they're all crazy, nasty people.

-Lord

I kinda understand you now, and buy into your thoughts about the supremacy part too.
I see

iksmoore:
Tell Ayiri to use the money he is about to splash on the poor boy to pay his workers and get petroleum products to his filling stations.

Is he owing his workers

LordAdam16:
Is Egypt in sub-Saharan Africa?

PS: Look at the attached for proof that ancient Egypt and Nubians were mixed. Ramses is light-skinned. One of his lieutenants is dark-skinned. The Nubians he is crushing are both light-skinned and dark-skinned.

Which is why I've been echoing black sub-Saharan civilizations and you lots are quoting North African mixed civilizations.

-Lord

The Egyptians back then were mostly of dark skin
The hieroglyphs prove that

Braden2:
Race or skin color is totally irrelevant . We now have the technology to depigment a dark skin or Tan a light skin. Rhinoplasty to shape a person's nose however they desire. Hair transplant,etc. All of these will only improve and become more affordable and available with time .
if all humans have a good quality of life , there'll be no racism and discrimination. Poverty breeds bad behaviour ,and in this world ,most black people are poor and black nations underdeveloped .
Most white nations are developed and majority of whites have a good Quality of life than blacks . This does not in anyway mean that blacks are inferior or white is superior .
If a black person is raised in a good environment and has good quality of life,the individual will lean towards a polite and studious outlook . if a white person is raised in a ghetto or trailer park,the individual will lean towards bad behaviour and negative outlook .THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEVERLY HILLS AND COMPTON IS NOT RACE BUT CLASS.

black people are looked down upon and demonized in society because most African nations and societies are underdeveloped with poverty,diseases,crime etc. when you think of black ,the subconscious images come to mind :inferior,slave,backward,gangster,thug,thief,poor,dirty,etc. and that's the image propagated by the media into our minds.
Even if all humans are white, those who live in trailer park will be looked down and discriminated.Whether or not that black person wears a suit and carries bible . that image is already embedded in the subconscious mind . Majority always take the vote.
Poverty breeds bad behaviour and culture. for example ,gangster rap,sagging of pants,all originated from the black ghetto as a form of rebellion towards a perceived oppressive system. Punk rock and metal and biker gangs and tattoos originated from trailer parks . If the individual grew up in a sane environment,would they behave that way?Probably not. Everything wrong in this world has been deliberately orchestrated. Ghettos and underdevelopment are manmade .no one is inferior . all humans desire to have a good quality of life and live in a sane environment.



When Europeans arrived Africa, there was no racism. They traded for many centuries . when the Americas was discovered ,labourers (or what we now know as slavery) were needed . The British and Spanish kings sent message requesting labourers from the African kings. Prisoners of wars were sold to the Europeans . When the kings saw that the business was profitable ,they instigated more wars and captured more criminals of wars and sold to the sailors.
British and Spanish prisoners were appointed as supervisors at the plantations in the Americas,just as some were shipped to Australia . They took out their anger on the slaves and treated them cruelly in order to feel superior and feel better about themselves. The Europeans had a civil relationship with the ordinary Africans in Africa.
Institutionalized racism all began when everyone who had a dark skin like the slaves were now viewed as inferior whether or not your ancestors were slaves or not. whether you are black Zimbabwean or African american,you are simply viewed as slaves.This is the same way a white Romanian or Serbian may be respected by Africans despite the fact that Serbia is poor. That British ,French and Spanish glory simply affects all whites while slavery affects all blacks.

Very nice and intelligent contribution
This captured my thoughts well

tweetsme:
Have visited the US to see them perform? If You have then you will agree with me it is 80%.

lol

baddosky1:
Foolish Boy living a fake life!

He will hold $5,000 and put it on instagram...

He will buy Louis Vuitton pant for $500 and post it on facebook...

He will buy Gucci boxers for 75,000 rand and post it on snapchat...

And yet he is offering dud-cheque and can't pay up for on of the "toys" he sang about in bad-badoo-baddest!

Fake A*se fool claiming baddest!



Make una come see as afonja boy wan defraud ipob man who sells autmobiles. Efulefu!

This comment proves you are not wise

tweetsme:
That is how one of them( Name withheld) came to US and got no money to go back home. 80% of Nigerian Musicians are broke, leaving fake lives to deceive Nigerians back home. Come to the US and see some of them. Broke guys.. Can only speak for Tuface...

Maybe 50% but definitely not 70%

lol @ bad belle Nigerians
Anyone who thinks David cannot pay 7m for a car must be deluded The investments in his name and family name far outstrips that 7m It may just be a misunderstanding that will be settled amicably
Nigerians and their mumu attitude of hating the rich

asuzor11:
FYI I'm an Igbo man...But your comment is one of the reasons why I don't support Biafra of today.

Why would any sane Igbo man support IPOB lunatics?

Amarabae:
maybe its because we don't celebrate stupidity.
So that Igbo man who build a skyscraper hospital in his village in Anambra should use the money for BBNaija show?

That is not the point.
Our people find it difficult to rally behind our own sometimes o, due to ego and other reasons.
I know my people very well.

This is what happens when poverty, illiteracy and helplessness is in one place.
The politicians have impoverished these people for decades and this is the result

If life was worth living for them, why will they want to do this in the first place

discusant:
The conspiracy is that some racist foreign powers who want continuation of failed one Nigeria would not mind if all of you died in that dysfunctional one Nigeria.

Break up one Nigeria, if Boko Haram disturbs in the noorth, you move down to Biafra or Oduduwa for shelter.

But so long as One Nigeria continues, Boko Haram has no ending.

What is this one saying?

Daviddson:
You're not ashamed of yourself that you're embarrassing your family over there. Pls don't quote me, because most of you that are campaigning for these shameless lots cannot stand the sight of your own daughter or family member being there.

What is this one saying?
You think every one is closed minded like you?

Justbeingreal:
One sure thing about this lady is weda or not she wins this money she don already blow big time, she has show cased her talent in the house to the whole world when she's out if she pursue the music thing this babe go make more than the 25 meters in a short while, I also listened to efe song on FM, if the dude collect the 25m on Sunday he can as well double up in no time, the thing is about using the platform well when u get out, the only jonzers in this is TTT n Kemen they even messed up their reputation more it would have been better if they never went for the show.

Lol

Who told you TTT is the jonzer?
He has blown and his stage craft will carry him far.
Nollywood, modelling and advertorials are at his table as we speak.
as for Kemen *sighs* it depends on him

XketchDesigns:
DISCLAIMER ------------------------ THIS IS NOT HATING, ITS ALL JUST FACTS


I just realized why nigeria is in the state it is in. when a people support mediocre that land can only produce mediocre.

Everybody just shouting efe, and i have tried to analyse ans see whe he is deserving of such praise and i cant find any *at least compared with the other contestants*. if we were to base it on tallent well, he is not in the top.. *no hating, just facts*

-In terms of enterntainment, he claims to be a rapper but hes spits very wack barrs.. Bassy is way much better at rapping than efe.
-Hes story of coming from humble background and fighting to get to where he is, that goes to debbie rise. I mean have you watched her audition from way back on nigerian idol? and the girl is actually talented with the gittar
-Bisola has an amazing voice, she is a very good singer
-TTT is very good at leadership and directing, he stired the house to win their wager in an amazing presentation in the 3 or 4th week.
-Acting, bisola,uriel and bassy carry the prize here.
-Dancing, bassey, debbie rise, TTT, mavrins and bisola.
-Fittness, All the guys i the house were more fit than he was, he couldnt exercise to save his life during the boot-camp.
-Eloquent, this goes to bassey and somewhat bally.


All he did was constantly trying to explain himself and saying he is "real"

Efe although tried better, belongs to the pack of Tboss, mavris, gifty, Bally *maybe at the top of this pack*.


so there are way more people deserving to win it than the person projected to win *efe*. From what i can tell its all driven by sentiments and loyalty to tribal divides and not actual entertainment.

Thank you very much
TTT was dope, but they voted him out for stupid reasons

What we should evaluate is performance not sentiment

That is why Nigeria keep voting fools into office

SmartBug:
Nigerians are rude

Very rude I tell you

Dedetwo:
It is unfortunate idiocy to equate Africa with “Black”. I had to say unequivocally the Africa is not synonymous with Black. African is human while Black is a color or inanimate object. African with any form of intellect should stop referring Africans as Black. The term Black for human is one of the remnants of slavery, man’s inhumanity against human. It is beyond the pale of imagination why an African will arrogate the term Black to him/herself.

Thank you very much
You are very intelligent

On what basis is one called a "black" or white?

That is the biggest scam in human history

bravesoul247:
If you have money, why show everybody and flaunt too much? If you even dress simple despite your wealth people will even respect you more sef.

It depends on personality tho.
Wearing good stuff and showing off is a matter of personality, does not mean you are not mature and it's not a crime.
Donald Trump is one of the biggest show offs, and one of the world's wealthiest men too.


just saying

Gunlawz:
i did lots of research on google and i discovered Acca had a wider international coverage than Ican...u can also see other threads on Acca benefits....Thanks alot bro..il apr8 ur ideas

That is the key word
Wider recognition than ICAN, Not that ICAN doesn't have international recognition

Elxandre:
I won't stop lamenting on how worse Nairaland has gotten in a few years.
I think the mods in charge of front page are significantly less intelligent than what we used too have here.

I don't visit Nairaland for several days now sometimes these days, and I never miss anything about it.
The front page is filled with one liner news or unsubstantiated gossip articles.

A forum is not a gossip blog or an out and out news site. It's supposed to be heavily tilted towards discussions on diverse topics.

Where are the topics discussions that made me addicted to Nairaland back then?

Seun what happened to you?
Is it now just all about the traffic rather than quality?

Exactly

Nairaland by now should have commensurate quality with Quora; but look at the mess the forum is becoming.
Decaying small small

Very unfortunate
The culpable must be punished

Rocorleone:
I don't think it's casting having your passport stamped at the Ghanaian border because you want to travel to UK. Instead it adds to your travel history. I too will be travelling just to stamp my passport and return. If you have any other suggestions do let me know. Thanks

You are right
Even Europeans take the visas and stamps at the borders and it does not affect them at all.
Some even like it.
The more stamps on your passport the better (no disadvantage whatsoever)

Adebowale89:
list country that request for loan than Nigeria?? then I'll keep shut my mouth

There are several ways of getting indebted as a country.
And besides, America is the most indebted country in the world, owing more than 30% of that debt to foreign governments and entities (trillions of dollars)
Britain is a very indebted country too.

musicwriter:
They've already made it clear the Naira must keep devaluating. See another thread on that https://www.nairaland.com/3725716/imf-hints-fresh-devaluation-says

The naira should be allowed to float, not necessarily devalue
On what basis really is out currency "strong"

And remember, many countries doing well have their currencies cheap, lower than even the naira (South Korea for example)
So the currency should float, then investors will know the real value of naira determined by market forces and not manipulation, then the forex will flow in and stabilise things in the medium term.

But Nigerians/Africans and their lack of wisdom

Adebowale89:
right from history this IMF has no good mind for Africa most esp Nigeria the most debtor country in the world

what makes me to come to the conclusion that buhari govt is clueless was his ban on importation of goods and is inability to promote that local production.

how can u think of exiting a house without having any accommodation to packed in

all his policies are as worse. imagine the dollars has been depreciating not until he came bck from London and the $ stand still


I wish Nigerians the fortitude to bear the loss of this thing we put ourselves into. 2019 is not far, the voter's weapon keep it close to u

Did you just say that Nigeria is the most indebtor country in the world

That means you have ZERO idea on this subject matter

LordAdam16:
Stop lying.

The Egyptian central bank recently forecasted further appreciation of the Egyptian pound. Consumer confidence is not at an all time low. Egyptian foreign reserve has grown to $28.5b--the highest since 2011.

I wonder what you gain from lies. The same you calling the $9b surge in FDI a surge from "criminal international capitalists" is the same person who'd be talking about stabilizing the naira so the same "criminal international capitalists" can bring their money to the real and portfolio sectors of the Nigerian economy.

How can you demonize something you desperately ask for?

The IMF has asked the CBN to devalue since 2014. After the initial stubbornness, the CBN eventual did a managed float. So, what kind of sick patriotism are you talking about. Nigeria will eventually float the naira fully. Taking that pill now that the fall is estimated to be less than 20% is better than waiting until another oil price war happens between Saudi Arabia and the US.

The IMF has its interest, and Nigeria should have our interest. If a free float should be a way to attract FDI and reduce pressure on our reserves, then we should take advantage of it.

When the IMF recommended SAP to Babaginda in 1987, it didn't stop Babangida from stealing over $12b in one year in 1991 (the gulf war windfall). Between 1987 and today Nigerian leaders have stolen over $150b. Yet you people have a way of blaming the IMF for recommending SAP, when it was our leaders that ruined the implementation.

If our leaders can't look out for Nigerian interest, why should the IMF look out for our interest?

Or do you think the IMF is actually NCF (Nigerian Charity Fund)?

Buhari claims to have released N1t directly into the economy in 2016. Did you feel it?
It took us 18 months to come out with an Economic plan... 18 months. Is that one the fault of the IMF too?
Or when Buhari was maintaining hard stance with the NDA last month that cost us of over $20b in oil revenue. Was that one the fault of the IMF too?

You have stupid leaders and an equally unserious populace and you want IMF to do everything for you. I've never seen an entitled people like Nigerians before. Everyone is supposed to queue at the opportunity to lick your ass when you keep defecating all over the place.

You have the BRICS and other nations in the G20 and OECD that used IMF to climb the ladder to stardom and in some cases ingenuously tip-toed around the IMF. Yet your ignorant self thinks it is about a we-versus-them game. US still trades heavily with China and Russia (practically sworn enemies). If we can't use the IMF to further our own agenda then yes we deserve wherever we are.

Tell your leaders to GTFO their ass, start working, stop stealing, and then taking the same proceeds to countries that call the shot in the IMF (the IMF would use our leaders stolen money as backing to give us loans in the end). Stop being the mindless simpletons the industrialized world sees us as.

It was Nigeria that ran to the IMF for loans. The IMF did not come to us.

-Lord

Lord you put it in a better way than I even put it.

Africans often blame IMF for its woes, whearas it is largely because of our unserious nature that makes the implementation fail.

There is nothing wrong with IMF conditionalities, as these measures are in place to ensure that indeed the imf gets the loan back because without these conditions, some idiot African countries will just fritter it on subsidies and their corrupt public corporations, while lacking the ability to pay back once the money is gone.

Africans and victim mentality eh *smh*

musicwriter:
I knew it!!. This is what you should always expect from the world bank and IMF- two colonial instruments set up after the second war to control the world's economy. The next thing you'll see is this report would scare potential investors and make matters worse for Nigeria. The only thing they always have for third world countries is bad news.

You again?

Daboomb:
Thank you for this contribution.

Let us always ask ourselves,: IN WHOSE INTEREST DOES IMF ACT, IN 3RD WORLD COUNTRIES?

I wont go into long details but HISTORY has shown that every country (without exception) that has taken the IMF Pill (Loan) for th epurpose of development/restructuring, was worse-of, than from where it was before the loan.

I hope we all remember the IMF structural Adjustment programme under Ibrahim Babangida's regime?
It was during that IMF Loan that the Naira "died", in terms of real value (not exchange rate!) and all our industries collapsed.

Why is it that once any 3rd world country is trying to make a headway and solve its problem, IMF will just wake-up and start predicting doom, urging it to devalue its currency, raise taxes on its people, allow free-for-all importation of `foreign goods (open border), remove import tariffs so the country can become a dumping ground for Western goods, e.t.c
From Angola, to El Savador, to Chile, to Nigeria, to Argentina, ....IMF is an agent of imperialism and it is used to destroy the economy of emerging nations and ensure they are forever dependent on the West.

Nigeria should please, just ignore their rubbish predictions or advice.
When the Naira was taking a hit, they did not make any comment bu tnow that the Niara is firming-up, they suddenly found their voice.
Thunder fire any Oyinbo-man wey wan spoil our economy.
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All of you talking like this obviously don't know anything about IMF and their policies.
Some are even calling IMF a western establishment to ruin African countries

You people don't know.

Do You know the components of SAP? Do yiu know why it failed in Nigeria? Anyways that is besides the topic.

@Topic
IMF has a point, but they have to understand now that Nigeria is a peculiar country right now, and certain policies like these that would have lifted other countries may cause untold hardship in Nigeria.
Egypt has done the float, and their currency is doing ok, even with less reserves, but if Nigeria does that now, we will be done for because of the unbridled greed and wickedness of our unpatriotic elite (the bank top shots, politicians, hoarders, BDC people, etc) they will exploit this thing to the detriment of Nigeria

So thanks for the advice @IMF but Nigeria is a special case.

obiezed:
Please don't feed trolls,nothing in the write up is factual or true.

jessetom:
The comments from this post shows that the persons that are attacking the OP might have a high GPA, but definitely have a low IQ. If GPA corresponds with IQ, y'll won't utter the kind of rubbish you have been spitting from y'll mouth.

Thank you

The ability to read without comprehending is more dangerous than not knowing how to read.
No interpretation (illiteracy) is better than wrong interpretation (reading without comprehending

sexy74:
feel free to ask any question or questions you want. you can reach me on kanayo74@hotmail.com kanayo74@gmail.com. do have a wonderful time.

Okay sir

gincmedia:
So they learn how to spell 3rd world and not 3rd war country correctly

LOL
Savage