₦airaland Forum

Durchmann:
Well, everyone to his own opinion O!

I won't try to sound rude but in my own opinion, people who think the China relations with Africa is cool only see the immediate picture. They don't see the broad picture. Also, some are also direct benefactors of China's moves in Africa. You would hardly see someone in Government in Africa talk against China. China is helping them fulfill election promises even though it may be at a grievous cost to posterity.

These are things Africans should be concerned about. I don't know why I even have this feeling that China must have been a huge backer of the African Free Trade Area thing sef. I love the policy but I'm wary of the backers.

I believe China was a backer to that Free trade agreement

ogbonti:
I am not an Immigration Attorney and so I do not have the information you will need if you are in such a position. This practice off immediate deportation for FAILED INTERVIEWS did not start with Trump, It has been a long time practice. I worked at an Attorney's office way back in 1999, that was when I saw these things happen and it is still going on till today, because AMERICANS HATE TO BE LIED TO, ESPECIALLY TO THE AUTHORITIES - you see how Trumps's Layer Michael Cohen is serving jail time for lying. All I will advise you is DO THE RIGHT THING - do not plan to scam the system, and pray to God- never assume because you are doing the right thing, that you will be rewarded accordingly- it doesn't work that way - just like genuine visa applicants get denied visas also -- just like very talented and educated people fail job interviews

TO FAIL IS NOT A BAD THING, the difference here is that FAILURE COMES WITH DEPORTATION!!!!

JUST DO THE GENUINE THING - DO IT RIGHT - PRAY TO GOD, HOPE FOR THE BEST WHILE EXPECTING THE WORST! - be blessed!

yea

that's true

Durchmann:
If the African leaders do have the will power, they can force International corporations to do business in the continent by their Free Trade Area Policy. However, just as I said earlier, the systemic corruption and selfish attitude among Africans will kill the whole objective before it gains ground. From the field alone, custom officers can intentionally manipulate records in order to classify foreign imports (imports from outside Africa) as African imports. This is just a simple case as there are even deeper and more complicated situations that can play out.

Back to the area of Trump's effect on the globe, I've never really been a fan of the usual International diplomacy protocols when nations deal with each other. In fact, you find out that they are mostly flawed and in a lot of cases tilted to serve the major interests of one party leaving the other party disgruntled but in order to appease the Piper, smiling along.

Take the International Free Trade Agreement for example. In as much as the Chinese are hard workers and have been the world's one-stop shop for almost everything, other nations of the world (especially Africa) have been reeling in job losses due to competition shutting down. If it were just competition within China, I could tolerate that. However, when job losses occur in say , Chile, because a Chinese firm is producing at a much cheaper rate , even though in a lot of cases (especially to 3rd World Nations), products exported are of low quality, that is very unacceptable.

To even cap this up, China will still build relationships with those 3rd World Nations while giving them loans that may end up even slaving those nations indefinitely.

I don't know but I'm not fine with all these romance China has been having within Africa. I think there was a report some time ago of a nation in Asia or so that had to give up a seaport to China as they could not pay their debts. I'll find out though. I'm not certain what nation that is or resource that was given up.

Free Trade isn't Fair Trade, in my opinion. The actions of one nation and its people affects the ability of other nations somewhere else to serve their own people. That's subtle sabotage if you ask me.

In the end, just as I said earlier, it's our my opinion.

In my opinion, it's best everyone knows he or her grievances and agreements are formed based on those grievances and not through diplomatic sentiments. People can agree since they all know what ails them.

Thank God!

anothee person who is wary of the China -Africa relationship


I was discussing with a Guinean the other day
and ge was so happy about Chinese investment and loans being extended to his country bla bla bla

I tried to explain to him
But for where?
his mind is already fixated

many Africans don't reason properly
and The foreign powers are here to exploit that for their benefits

Axiwaju:
lol drake is a Canadian and Also Justin Beiber..
They don't wanna go back to that weak ass shit country

just so you know

about 600k American citizens live in Canada

ogbonti:
you are missing the point. no one is saying you paid anyone to marry - your marriage could be very genuine, BUT - i am saying, just like genuine travellers to USA get denied visa in Lagos, IF FOR ANY REASON, your application to adjust status get denied, you will not just go home and go try your luck again --- no no no- YOU WILL BE ARRESTED AND PLACED ON DEPORTATION PROCESS IMMEDIATELY - if you are very fortunate, they will give you 90 - 180 days to leave and your work permit will be revoked immediately.

many people who even have kids with their spouses get denied - IT IS NOT ABOUT THE MARRIAGE BEING GENUINE OR NOT, IT IS ABOUT WHAT THE IMMIGRATION OFFICER INTERVIEWING YOU THINKS ABOUT YOUR SITUATION - I use to work in a law office so I saw alot of people in tears and almost running mad ---- some will be talking to themselves, like -- wetin I do, God wetin I do this world, how can they say I am lying bla bla bla---- my guy, who no go no know!!!!

oh really?

that's unfortunate

Trumps body odor at work I believe
.But will it be the same if it was the spouse visa that person applied for?

like get married in Nigeria
The USC goes back and then file for the husband

I believe that is better than adjusting status

Drenimarcus:
Yes. This thread started in 2014. 5 years later, it became the poverty capital of the world. Even the rich have backup plans just in case

EXACTLY so

Simcha:
How can I break into the IT? What are the certifications and trainings I need as a starter?

People are advising me not to do any marriage or engagement as this will be her first visit so that won't raise a red flag during the filing process. What do I do?

take enough pictures with her in different places

and store them in a safe place
duplicate and triplicate if you have to
if those pictures loss

That will be village people at work


then with that
she can apply for K1 visa later on

when you have a complete idiot as president
this is the kind of comment he will make
But I did not bother to watch the video But if indeed he said this
he lacks sense for an old man

I'm thinking of creating a thread tho

about something that has been bothering me for a while
and I see it every country I go both within and more recently outside of Africa



let me still articulate my points

Bizibi:
*sigh* Nigerians!!

That is the trait many many Nigerians possess

uuzba:
This will continue happening until we create jobs for all.
You can't just run a system of importing finished goods from other nations while all your local industries are closed down.
All the graduate in this country never reach to dey fabricate iPhone?
If you keep on importing this and other goods, what then do you think the graduates are doing?

They are just redundant.
In front of my house, Agberos fill up the place daily, collecting money from tippers.
I used to be upset before until I realised they just have nothing else to do.

Everybody will kukuma stand on the road and be collecting money.

it's not about importation

The biggest economies in the world are the biggest importers
Switzerland alone imports more goods in value than the entire sub Saharan Africa put together


The issue is that let us CREATE an atmosphere that gives the cast population the OPPORTUNITY to be PRODUCTIVE

it does not matter the sector of the economy
as long as its legal and adds value

let us CREATE opportunities

it's the lack of opportunities

or will I say hoarding of the opportunities available (which are quite limited btw) for the elite class alone (nobody can deny this ) while leaving just a few opportunities for the dangerously growing population That has created this criminal and dangerous atmosphere of crime and violence

Moneywirer:
We're in that era in Nigeria when one reads about something bad that happened somewhere in Nigeria and the person goes..... Next!!!!
The person feels indifferent about the bad news not because he/she has no conscience but because the country has almost shaped the thoughts of the people into believing that bad news is normal.


Will Nigeria ever get better?

I honestly don't know!!!!

it will not get better

Ziel20:
Thats a strong point. I read of a man with Eleven children. WTF?

In my secondary school back in the day

We had 4 cleaners

one had 5 kids

one had 6 kids

The other had 3 (well she was still young then, I'm sure by now after many years don waka, swe would have addes extra

and the last one had 7 kids

I am NOT joking

after school you will see them going home
inconveniencing others because they have to "lap" as we call it in Lagos because no money to pay for all seats
you will see three people lapping on one seat space

Now tell me
with an efulefu dad and a cleaner mom
what are the chances that those kids would get a shot at a good life and upward social mobility

tho in some cases, due to sheer hard work and sacrifice, SOME of them break free

But most cases, it's the recycling of poverty

those kids you see, are the future criminals and irritants in the society

otherway:
U.K don deny this guy visa sotey e don make U.K enemy...

lmao
I wonder why he is blaming Britain
Nigerians destroyed Nigeria
Fact
looking for who to blame is the style of most Nigerians

Ziel20:
Corporate robbers? Nigeria is finally getting to a black zone... Soon SARS will start harassing any one they see in suit. Shit is real.

Na Agbada everyone go soon dey wear go work.

NiggerArea will soon become another Honduras

as long as its stupid citizens continue to rear kids lije fvckin pigs, and the economy continues to tank.

The suffering won t be this much if we had like 2/3 our current population

But these mumu people I call compatriots will not hear

DrObiHogan:
Every sane country needs a Donald Trump. Looks like UK just got theirs. Insane countries should keep managing their dead SLOWPOKES

what did the brother just say? ?

Durchmann:
My reasons may not really be popular opinion though.

For the first time, Africa has thought about building a Free Trade Area among themselves and not going cap in hand to beg.

For once, Iran has come out plainly and said they have been carrying out nuclear enrichment and in fact have decided to increase effort on their nuclear enrichment. Prior to now, even with all the fingers pointing at them from Israel, they denied this.

South Korea and Japan are having their own versions of trade war. Now, you may say that this is a strife that isn't welcome but the truth is nations have been playing deceptive international politics prior to Trump's coming.

So what point am I raising here?

The point is, nations have been bullied and even some stifled because they wanted to keep their fragile diplomatic relationships with certain nations or bloc of nations. Now, everyone is concerned about what the other party brings to the table. In the past, the scenario where one nation suffers at the expense of the other is being challenged.

In fact, no nation call the other a pariah state anymore because everyone has his interests at the forefront of negotiations all laid bare without any form of guile or deception.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a good time to be alive. If African nations are wise, this is the time to stand their ground against neo-colonialism and diplomatic oppression by forging better ties among themselves, thereby protecting their own interests. Well, they are learning. I only fear that systemic corruption may be our bane or Achilles heel in this case though.

These views are just my opinion and mine alone.

I see

interesting


But don't you think that Trump recklessness would have a long term damage in future?

There is a reason why diplomacy is king, and diplomacy keep the peace..

and as for African countries

this free trade agreement is gonna screw us over big time (especially Nigeria)

The structural problems in Africa has not been fixed yet, and you are melting the borders
like putting the cart b4 horse


And to think that most African countries have their biggest trading partners out of the continent
That should tell you something

But let me be optimistic sha

Electroweb:
Something about the word ‘scold’ in your response...well this is social media...

I don't get it

franchasng:
the only country coming close to America's greatness in terms of economy, military might and technology is China.


UK is nowhere near US. UK can only be compared to dying nations like Greece, Italy, Spain, etc not US.

The only benefit UK citizens benefit or can boast of is affordable healthcare and education, nothing else.

UK economy is clutching on straws as we speak, its dying a natural death.

In the next 50 years, UK will be worst then Italy and Greece so if u love your children's future please find ways to relocate them out of UK to more promising nations, don't say we didn't warn you.

Can you name or give reasons why UK should be on the list of great nations of the world of today

What rank do they occupy in military might

In economy strength

In employment rate

In housing fortune 500 firms

In number of billionaires

In entertainment

In Technology

Just name it!

You guys living in UK know what I am talking about; UK is living on past glory. The houses are getting aged, infrastructure is dying due to age, no more stolen money to rehabilitated or build new ones, confused government brexiting today, rebrexiting tomorrow and changing prime minister like diaper.

UK is just a useless country that terrorist ought to have leveled down long time ago.

They messed Nigeria and west Africa up by joining enemies together as one nation out of their stupid, wicked, selfish greed!!

now you are beginning to sound sentimental

The United Kingdom will always find its way

and your hatred for the U.K. stems from the fact that you blame them for the amalgamation

this is baseless because the founding fathers agreed to a unified Nigeria prior to independence in 1960 (1958)

from 1958 onwards
Britain was absolved of any blame due to amalgamation

ogbonti:
every african born canadian i know hate the USA, why ? I dont know -- they are constantly angry whenever USA is mentioned, I guess they are hating because they know Canada is inferior to USA

I won't say inferior tho

pansophist:
You will have to ask them why, as for me, it is not the case. From my observation, it is because they lack good status. Either they are students who couldn't extend their stay after studies, or they do not want to learn the local language and integrate, or they just like the idea of living in the USA. But again, I have seen many that left the USA for Europe. To each, his own.

America has its plus sides too
Europe has its as well

ogbonti:
every naija who lived in europe, visited the USA and never returned to EUROPE, why Sir?

America has more opportunities
That's why

Shaprara:
if Canada was a USA state canada would be proud especially not when they have that Trudeau as pm

why do you say that?

pansophist:
You may not believe it, but if you give me an American passport, I'll reject it. I'll rather go with Canada, or any EU country citizenship instead. America is not the greatest country in the world.

I believe it's the greatest country tho....

no other country comes close

franchasng:
Bring up facts, I am not here to blow my trumpet.

The only thing sustaining UK is sports, education (foreign students money), IELTs and stolen funds from African and Middle-East countries by stupid corrupt African leaders, if not, UK would have died a natural death or facing extreme recession like Greece by now.

Finding work in UK is difficult if you aren't a Nurse, Doctor, etc or be ready to do odd jobs.

Whites work as cleaner at Heathrow airport, it can't happen in USA. Such jobs are done by Mexicans and illegals from South America and few Africans, but due to rising unemployment in UK, white British citizens also do odd jobs because their nation is dying natural death!!

naa

you are not 100 % correct on this one

you are not

there is more to the United Kingdom than what you typed up there

Noel1:
But phylosophycally his point could best be said to be based on premise.

Here's d counter point:

Had an American never invented internet, how sure are we that a Chineses, a Russian - or possibly anyone else wouldn't have invented it?

The question then becomes

HOW MANY THINGS have these guys you listed up there invent stuff and share it with the rest of the world?

Key word = How many times

kolafolabi:
Thought Asiwaju Boka Ahmed Tinubu was the best Governor

nope
It's jakande

his govt built so many houses
That Is he was allowed to stay longer

nan; Lagos would have had much more houses

franchasng:
shutup, UK is a dead country! Most people in UK are broke and managing life!

The only good thing they have in UK is affordable healthcare for their citizens only.

UK is a useless, stupid country.

I wished Hitler succeeded in wiping UK out of the face of earth!!

UK made Nigeria the mess it is today through useless almagamation of north with south.

All the African and Global wealth UK stole from other nations, where are they today They are still useless and powerless.

How many fortune 500 companies are found or owned by British people

Don't ever compare UK with USA in your dreams again. Nonsense.

Can you name 10 Nigerians living in the UK that are doing well financially without managing their life

na wa for you o

Noel1:
Without America, Nairaland wouldn't exist?

What fallacy?

as a matter of fact

yes!

nairaland works on the internet and the internet was an American invention shared to the globe

So technically he is right

pocohantas:
Fear Nairalanders

I'm really scared o

Serveyouright:
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Bro. I won't have mercy on them after I saw what my dad went through because of this guys. My dad is late due to robbery incident and we are here struggling for survival without his assistant then you think I will not support whoever that set this stupid guys ablaze.

many of these guys are just

these criminals do despicable things to their victims

It's all signs of a failed country

post=80598449:
All because of a phone?!
They burnt a whole human being to death,
Just because of a phone that may be less than 30 euro?

But these same sets of animals keep praising and raisng their hands for corrupt and evil politicians that have raped and looted their future and that of their unborn children?!
Stealing BILLIONS of POUNDS and DOLLARS!

Calling these sets of youths animals is an insult to the animal kingdom!
This is just so sad and painful.

Goodnight Nairaland!
Damn it!

this jungle justice of a thing is just despicable