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Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 6:45pm On Jan 01, 2015
What is Jizya?

Jizya is a derivative of a root word; Jaza which mean a recompense or compensation. In the context of Shari'ah, Jizya is a fee charged on non-Muslims living under the Shari'ah state. All adult non-Muslim males must pay Jizya periodically in order to live peacefully in the state. The value of this fee is not fixed and may vary depending on the decision of Shari'ah authorities.


Is Jizya synonymous to state tax or non-Muslim variation of Zakat?

Don't be deceived by apologists, Shari'ah is not merely a state tax or non-Muslim variation of Zakat for a number of reasons;

1. Linguistically, Jizya imply a recompense or compensation, not a tax. Zakat mean purification.

2. Jizya is charged on adult non-Muslim males. Tax is charged upon the working class in the society, regardless of gender or religion. Zakat is charged on Muslim adults earning a living.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 6:33pm On Jan 01, 2015
Jizya

What is the fate of the non-Muslims after they have been conquered by the Jihadists?

Once the invasion is completed and the captives have been distributed as slaves, the rest of the townfolk have 3 options.

A: Embrace Islam
B. Pay Jizya
C. Face Death

if the non-Muslim townfolks are Jews or Christians, they may choose from the 3 options. If they include atheists, agnostics, deists or pagans, only option A and C is permitted for them.

Sahih Muslim>> Book of Jihad

It has been reported from Sulaiman b. Buraid through his father that when the Messenger of Allah appointed anyone as leader of an army or detachment he would especially exhort him to fear Allah and to be good to the Muslims who were with him. He would say: Fight in the name of Allah and in the way of Allah. Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war, do not embezzle the spoils; do not break your pledge; and do not mutilate bodies; do not kill the children. When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these, you also accept it and withold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them. If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah's help and fight them.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 12:43pm On Jan 01, 2015
nora544:
What I learn in the last weeks after we hear here in austria about books they use in a private school from saudi arabia in vienna, and the Austrian goverment closed the school with the end of the school year because the kids learn to hate people who didnot belong to their religion.

this teaching has no room in a free country.

Saudia arabia is a country with a double standart like america.

Hate has no room in an schoolbook.
Very few people are aware that there is an underground movement spearheaded by the Muslim Brotherhood to take over Europe and America, establish a caliphate and enforce Shari'ah. The increasing population and radicalization of western Muslims, the increasing number of Mosques in the West, those Islamofascist Books or curriculum in Western schools from Saudi Arabia are just a part of the sinister plan of the Muslim Brotherhood to take over the West.

NB: Muslim Brotherhood is the largest Muslim organisation in the world.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 9:26am On Jan 01, 2015
PastorKun:
But you know the islamic religion Prohibits it's adherents from changing any thing sanctioned in the quoran. They see it as allah's word that cannot be changed. Infact attempting to change it could earn the reformer a fatwa.
Is there any religion that doesn't prohibit its adherent from altering it laws? Look at Isreal today, Isreali Muslims live in peace and comfort than Bahai Muslims in Iran or Ahmadi Muslims in Pakistan. If we look at the Tanakh, it has more oppressive teachings than the Qur'an. How did the Isreali Jews reconcile this?
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 8:19am On Jan 01, 2015
PastorKun:
So what solution do you profer for this problem given the fact that it is a core tenet of islamic beliefs? @usermane
either Muslims admit there is lot of problem with Shari'ah and amend it or scrap it out for good.

Do we legalize a system that is discriminatory, bias and oppressive simply because some people claim it is a tenet of their religion? That will be freedom of belief or tolerance gone mad.

PS: Sorry for not replying earlier, Pastor.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah II: Phantom Heaven by usermane(op): 7:05am On Jan 01, 2015
Empiree:
Why did you correct him?. Didn't you give him platform for his rubbish in the name of 'reforming islam'.
I 'd rather focus on the bone of contention here, if i were you. It would be better for you, i promise.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah II: Phantom Heaven by usermane(op): 7:01am On Jan 01, 2015
Good day and Happy new year everyone. The final phase of this paper on Shari'ah is out. Check; https://www.nairaland.com/2069737/shariah-iii-war
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 6:51am On Jan 01, 2015
What is the rationale behind Shari'ah permitting slavery and executing homosexuals?

One would expect a law often touted as moral compass of a God conscious society to forbid apparent means of oppression like slavery but it doesn't. Shari'ah advocates are too busy in their pursuit for validation of Shari'ah that analyzing the decrees and rationale behind them is overlooked as a distraction. There is no logic in killing two men for sexual relations while another man oppresses and humiliate someone else without even a slap on the wrist.

But when we think deeply, we find that slavery entails overpowering and subjagating non-Muslims, leaving them so weak that Muslims' dominance is cemented. Therefore, being a law enacted to ensure dominance of Muslims over non-Muslims, Shari'ah legalizes slavery, overlooking the misery and burden that slaves might bear.


Shari'ah encourage Mannumision of slaves, mandate fair treatment of slaves, prohibit enslaving persons unless they are war captives or children of slaves. Isn't Shari'ah structured to minimize slavery?

Not really. Although Shari'ah dooes forbid kidnapping and enslaving free persons or punishing criminals by slavery, it does overcome this by legislating regular Jihad from which a lot are enslaved for resisting the Jihadists.


Is sex slavery a better alternative to prostitution?

One justification for sex slavery by Shari'ah advocates/Islamists is that it is less harmful to the society than prostitution. Of course when we consider the health risk involved, it seem to be true. But overall, the reverse may be the case. Sex slavery objectifies women than anything imaginable. The reasons being that' unlike prostitutes, sex slaves earn nothing in return and have no right to quit their role.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 6:48am On Jan 01, 2015
Here are few examples:

Sunan an-Nasa'i » The Book of Financial Transactions

Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported: There came a slave and pledg- ed allegiance to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) on migration; he (the Holy Prophet) did not know that he was a slave. Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him whether he was a slave (or a free man)

Sahih al-Bukhari » Sales and Trade

Narrated Jabir bin Abdullah:
A man decided that a slave of his would be manumitted after his death and later on he was in need of money, so the Prophet took the slave and said, "Who will buy this slave from me?" Nu'aim bin 'Abdullah bought him for such and such price and the Prophet gave him the slave.

Sahih al-Bukhari » Gifts

Narrated Kurib: the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, "Do you know, O Allah's Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?" He said, "Have you really?" She replied in the affirmative. He said, "You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave- girl) to one of your maternal uncles."

Sahih Muslim » The Book of Marriage (Kitab Al-Nikah)

Jabir (Allah be pleased with him) reported that a man came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: I have a slave-girl who is our servant and she carries water for us and I have intercourse with her, but I do not want her to conceive. He said: Practise 'azl, if you so like, but what is decreed for her will come to her. The person stayed back (for some time) and then came and said: The girl has become pregnant, whereupon he said: I told you what was decreed for her would come to her.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 6:35am On Jan 01, 2015
Slavery::

What happens if the Jihadists complete their invasion?

Shari'ah grant them the option of enslaving their hostage or captives whom they distribute like booty;

Narrated 'Abdul 'Aziz: Anas said, 'When Allah's Apostle invaded Khaibar, we offered the Fajr prayer there yearly in the morning) when it was still dark. The Prophet rode and Abu Talha rode too and I was riding behind Abu Talha. The Prophet passed through the lane of Khaibar quickly and my knee was touching the thigh of the Prophet . He uncovered his thigh and I saw the whiteness of the thigh of the Prophet. When he entered the town, he said, 'Allahu Akbar! Khaibar is ruined. Whenever we approach near a (hostile) nation (to fight) then evil will be the morning of those who have been warned.' He repeated this thrice. The people came out for their jobs and some of them said, 'Muhammad (has come).' (Some of our companions added, "With his army."wink

We conquered Khaibar, took the captives, and the booty was collected. Dihya came and said, 'O Allah's Prophet! Give me a slave girl from the captives.' The Prophet said, 'Go and take any slave girl.' He took Safiya bint Huyai. A man came to the Prophet and said, 'O Allah's Apostles! You gave Safiya bint Huyai to Dihya and she is the chief mistress of the tribes of Quraiza and An-Nadir and she befits none but you.' So the Prophet said, 'Bring him along with her.' So Dihya came with her and when the Prophet saw her, he said to Dihya, 'Take any slave girl other than her from the captives.' Anas added: The Prophet then manumitted her and married her..."
What is the fate of these slaves?

Their fate is left to their masters. A slave could serve as domestic servant, a farm laborer or a concubine. A slave may not disobey or flee from his master. Shari'ah regards that to be a grave sin or crime. Slaves may be bought, sold, gifted, manumitted, married or exchanged for another. Slaves are not forced to embrace 'Islam' but their children are unquestionably Muslims and cannot leave Islam.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 12:31pm On Dec 31, 2014
Doesn't Shari'ah stand against attack on innocent lives?

Yes it does. No Shari'ah advocate/Islamist will defend attacking innocent people. But it must be understood that Shari'ah doesn't recognize non-Muslims who refuse Islam as innocent, additionally, it deem anyone who opposes it implementation to be guilty. That explain why Shari'ah driven Jihadist groups like ISIS kill even Kurdish fighters who may be Muslims.


What is the ramification?

Obviously loss of lives and properties. Jihadists believe that the end justifies the means, that the Shari'ah state that will be established on conquest is so beautiful that it is worth any amount of bloodshed.


If this is true, why hasn't any of the Shari'ah states invaded non-Muslims?

Because they lack the military competence to do so today. In the middle ages, Arab and Turkish empires militarily invaded and conquered non-Muslim empires around them like the Roman and Persian empire. They invoked Shari'ah to sanction all these.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 12:24pm On Dec 31, 2014
There are popular Muslim traditions that also confirms the decree of Jihad;

Sahih Bukhari
Book of Salat.


Narrated by Anas bin Malik Allah's Apostle said, "I have been ordered to fight the people till they say: 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah.' And if they say so, pray like our prayers, face our Qibla and slaughter as we slaughter, then their blood and property will be sacred to us and we will not interfere with them except legally and their reckoning will be with Allah."

Narrated Maimun ibn Siyah that he asked Anas bin Malik, "O Abu Hamza! What makes the life and property of a person sacred?" He replied, "Whoever says, 'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah', faces our Qibla during the prayers, prays like us and eats our slaughtered animal, then he is a Muslim, and has got the same rights and obligations as other Muslims have."
Lastly the decree of Jihad is confirmed by concensus of mainstream Islamic clergy. All the schools of law of orthodox Islam affirm that Shari'ah is an obligation and any Muslim who deny it is an apostate. Confirm
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op): 12:20pm On Dec 31, 2014
Jihad::

What is "Jihad"?

Jihad is the arabic word for 'struggle' or 'strive'. However, its connotation throughout Muslim history has been military invasion of non-Muslim territories to implement Shari'ah.

Shari'ah divides the world in two; the abode of peace which is the region under Shari'ah and the abode of war, which the region not ruled by Shari'ah. The abode of war is to be militarily invaded after it has been invided to Islam by Muslim but it refuses.

Where does the Shari'ah decree of Jihad emanate from?

In one of my past article, i delved into details to answer this question. Muslim scholars often refer to the fifth verse of Chapter 9 of the Qur'an as the Verse of the Sword. In his exegesis of the Qur'an, Ibn Kathir; a foremost authority of Qur'an in the Muslim world explains that this verse legislate fighting non-Muslims for the sake of their disbelief. Confirm
Christianity Etc › Shari'ah III: War! by usermane(op):
Introduction::

The final phase of my trilogy on Shari'ah will deal with;

A. Jihad
B. Slavery
C. Jizya

I delved into the fallacy behind blasphemy, religious coercion, and civil laws under Shari'ah in the previous phase. There, i briefly discussed Islamism; a movement whose goal is conquering the world and full implementation of Shari'ah worldwide. This movement is akin to fascism in that it seek control all of human affairs, and akin to Nazism because it seek to eliminate all it opponents forcefully and bloodily.

I am not writing to persuade the Islamists or Shari'ah advocates. I write to expose the menace creeping into our society through deception and ignorance. Sure, there are other areas of Shari'ah that wont be covered in this work but this is the most detailed and straightforward criticism of Shari'ah you may find. Most critics seldom go beyond stoning or amputation and even then, there is barely rational analysis and sound debunking of these laws other than mere protest or rejection.
Romance › Re: Can Temporary Separation Actually Make A Relationship Stronger? by usermane(m): 6:54pm On Dec 30, 2014
Absence Make The Heart Grow Fonder
Family › Re: Your Opinion On Unexpected Visitors by usermane(op): 8:35pm On Dec 28, 2014
Ewuro4:
grin Hehe Dami now you just stated the obvious reason why most people don't like unannounced visitors - FOOD
Food is just one reason, though is an important reason. It is not comfortable having your guest sit at the TV while you munch the rest of your dish.

Some people don't cook excess, it can be wasteful. They just prepare enough for the household. If you burst in while they are already dinning, you create an awkward situation.
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah II: Phantom Heaven by usermane(op): 7:34pm On Dec 28, 2014
There was a huge outcry in the Muslim world on learning the Chinese authorities enacted policies restricting observance of Ramadan in China.

However, very few in the Muslim world know that Shari'ah forbid open observance of any non-Islamic religious events like Christmas.

In compliance of Shari'ah, Brunei recently banned public sales or display of Christmas trees in her territory;
www.brudirect.com/0-national/national/national-headlines/item/15479-syariah-officials-order-removal-of-christmas-decorations

It is ironical to find Islamists freely displaying their symbols like 'abaya, niqab or bushy beards' in the west advocating for a law that bans display of amulet, cross, Bible and other non-Islamic religious symbol.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by usermane(m): 5:37pm On Dec 28, 2014
gatiano:
If i try to defend myself about what you said now, GOD will give me a knock on my head. you are very right, i just thought that saying that in any section will reach anybody. now that you have mentioned it, you have put the section in trouble, you too should do the same.
Your response indicate that you 've not been to Islam section for at least 6 months. I have been contributing in that section and exposing the level of corruption that crept into Islam via Hadith, Sirat and Tafsir literatures coveted by mainstream Muslims. As an avid defender of Islam on this section, how could you have missed that?

By the way, i 'll pass your invitation to Islam section and here is why;

I. I stand for intellectual, rational and analytical approach to religion and religious texts. Islam section agents or regular poster are intolerant to this. They rather promote an highly dogmatic, traditional and priestly approach to Islam.

II Censorship
Any criticism of orthodox Muslims, criticism of orthodox Islamic teachings or expression of heterodox Islamic views result in the poster earning a ban and getting his topic or post hidden.

I am currently serving a 3 weeks ban from Islam section. I do not intend to return again after the ban. This is not my first ban. Mid last month i served a 2 weeks ban and a 4 weeks ban June/July this year. My offense was non other than exposing the lies and deception of mainstream Islamic teachings. You can go on my profile and check my topics, about 7 of them have been hidden for no reason beside expressing heterodox Islamic views. Many of these topics did not even carry my full views.

So before you get down to business in Islam section, know that section is not akin to this section where Christians can disagree over theology and deists, atheists or Pagans can post whatever they feel. You will need a lot of patience to cope with the vilification, self-righteousness, ignorance or intolerance that await you.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by usermane(m): 3:32pm On Dec 28, 2014
gatiano, i can't relate with you at all. If you claim not to believe in Hadith, why don't you ever visit Islam section to educate the Muslims there?

I need immediate response please.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by usermane(m): 3:22pm On Dec 28, 2014
PastorKun:
@usermane
A compulsory pre condition for being a muslim is to believe in allah and also believe mohammed is his prophet.
You don't need to believe in Muhammad or Quran to be a Muslim. Haven't you read these verse of the Qur'an?

Qur'an 5:47
Let the People of the Gospel judge by that which Allah hath revealed therein. Whoso judgeth not by that which Allah hath revealed: such are evil-livers.

Qur'an 3:113
They are not all alike. Of the People of the Scripture there is a staunch community who recite the revelations of Allah in the night season, falling prostrate

Qur'an 2:62
Lo! Those who believe (in that which is revealed unto thee, Muhammad), and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.

I neither believe allah or even believe allah is a name or title for God talkless of believing mohammed could possibly be a prophet of the one true God.
If you do not believe the God of heaven and earth is the author of Qur'an, that is a different story. But till date, Arab Jews and Christians refer to God as Allah; http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah
Christianity Etc › Re: Shari'ah: The Great Brain Robbery by usermane(op): 12:44pm On Dec 28, 2014
Speaking on apostasy, here is an article on an apostate suffering persecution in Egypt.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Hegazy

Mainstream media seldom relate these stories in the name of political correctness.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by usermane(m): 11:59am On Dec 28, 2014
PastorKun:
I submit to God without joining partners in serving him and I am extremely very far from being a muslim.
If you truely submit to God and serve him without joining partner, you are a Muslim, whether you admit it or not.

"Muslim" is a name, it is an adjective.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by usermane(m): 10:52am On Dec 28, 2014
dexmond:
You claimed that Abraham was a Muslim, what where the pillars of Islam that he upheld. please remember to give good reference too.
A muslim is one who submit to God without joining partners in serving Him. That is all it takes to be a Muslim. Abraham fit this description, thus he was a Muslim.
Family › Re: Your Opinion On Unexpected Visitors by usermane(op): 10:09am On Dec 28, 2014
chival:
@aisha: I am giving you an e-hifive now. Hubby once dragged me to go visit some friends without prior notice. I didn't approve and said so, and when we got there, I could tell the couple we went to see would have preffered we informed them of our intention to visit.

If a guest turns up uninvited in my home, I'd probably let him/her in but with a subtle "You should have let me know you were coming"

Anyway, its the naija way.
Thank you. I think even you the visitor will benefit from notifying your host, shortly before visiting. Imagine entering the house to meet your host busy with other visitors. It create an hectic situation for anyone, whether the visitors or the host.
Family › Re: Your Opinion On Unexpected Visitors by usermane(op): 7:29am On Dec 28, 2014
aisha2:
Rude how? What happened to your phone! Crashing into my privacy is not rude abi? Inform people give them notice, know their plans dont show up and force your way in, its not a jungle
I dont do eye service displease my self to satisfy anyone, be boiling inside while fake smiling outside. I no dey abeg life is too short.
People should learn to do the right thing abeg
I can see that. Only bold people can respond likewise. Some people don't mind, while others invite you in but treat you with lesser attention or hospitality.
Christianity Etc › Re: 30 Facts About Islam by usermane(m): 6:50am On Dec 28, 2014
Ifeann:
Here let me quote the analogy I gave which u said was "nice".

" If your city was just attacked by the Jews for whatever reason be it you attacked first even or they provoked. They kill a lot of people u know. Massive massacre and they win. And after the raid your sisters, mother, aunts and several other women who are married are rounded up and brought to the head commander.
The head commander then tells his soldiers that if their right hand possess any of the women they can have sex with them, "just fu.c k her if you captured her. ". This scenario is in ur quran and hadiths
Isn't that rape. Could any of the women just willingly allow the soldiers to have sex with them after killing their people, while their husbands are still alive and probably tied up.
Even if it was days after battle."


You said, "About the analogy you gave, thats nice. I will react to it in the context of having sex with slaves ignoring the war part. Permission to have sex with someone does mean it is a must you have sex with them. It means one can do it. And if one wants to, then it must be according to the guidelines of having sex in Islam."

And you also said this " Permission to have sex with ones wife is GRANTED in Islam, this doesn't mean the permission to rape ones wife. It simply mean you follow the procedure of having intercourse with the wife."



If you can't see how evil what you are defending is then you are absolutely brain washed. malvisguy212 can u imagine this.


How can u believe this is moral.
dastranger and usermane do you agree with this.
No, i don't.
Family › Your Opinion On Unexpected Visitors by usermane(op): 6:35am On Dec 28, 2014
How do you feel about unexpected visitors? I mean visitors or guests that suddenly knock at your door without prior notice.

In such cases, you may find yourself unprepared for them. Your house may be untidy or you may look shabby. Your privacy may be invaded, for instance, you may be having a good time with your spouse or date, you may be half-way into dinner or laundry or you may be weary and sleepy.

Thus, let us have your views. Are you open to such visits, do you mind returning such visit and how do you react to such visit?

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