Health › Re: How My Good Deeds Got Rewarded Almost 2 Years Later by vdestro: 2:00pm On Jul 03, 2023 |
AntiChristian: ... vdestro DNA is not equal to Soul/Spirit o! I never said DNA is equal to soul and spirit which is why i asked you where is the DNA for conscience and intuition and you could not answer. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Wrong For A Christian To Obtain A Chieftaincy Title? by vdestro: 10:56am On Jul 02, 2023 |
erniok: Why you want to twist his words is beyond me. When Paul wrote :follow me as I follow christ, was he a god also to the early believers? When paul said "follow me", we knew what he meant. So also do we know what he means by his coded talk. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Wrong For A Christian To Obtain A Chieftaincy Title? by vdestro: 10:54am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Davidgregs: I don't know why you chose to think through your anus this sunday morning. There is a big difference btw a role model and a god. A role model is someone you look up to and want to be like. While a god is what you worship, learn the difference and stop spewing trash on people's post. Yes we know the difference but we also know when you are confessing in coded ways. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehood Of Original Sin by vdestro: 10:53am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian: I don't think anyone is asinine except you guy!
How can DNA be Soul/spirit?
DNA can be tweaked to some extent! You are the only one who is deranged for i clearly said "what you choose to ascribe to D.N.A, is what we ascribe to soul/spirit, which of course you can not find the DNA for conscience and intuition hence your futile attempt to switch your folly. As i said E.O.D |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehood Of Original Sin by vdestro: 10:40am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian:
 Chai! Deoxyribonucleic acid is soul/spirit!
Will your lies ever end?
You must be crazy if you can show the D.N.A of conscience and intuitition.
What good deed equivalent to sin did we inherit from Adam? The ability to provide and cater for your wife and children is the exact opposite of starving and ocking her up as your brother has done https://www.nairaland.com/7748620/man-arrested-caging-starving-wife |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 10:37am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: OK, I understand what you are saying, that Joseph of Arimathea a good man compared to other members of the council.
That not withstanding, he was still a member of the council right? "Though we are in the world, we are not of the world!" Though we are with them, we are not with them |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehood Of Original Sin by vdestro: 10:31am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Those part of inheritance are biological attributes! These can be explained in terms of genes, chromosomes and DNA!
Why do we all inherit sin from Adam and not one single good deed from him? What you choose to call D.N.A, is what we Christians call soul/spirit. Thus, we inherited both the good of liking a woman enough to marry her as well as the ability to sin. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Wrong For A Christian To Obtain A Chieftaincy Title? by vdestro: 10:28am On Jul 02, 2023 |
NoahHadNoArk: You can’t collect a a chieftaincy title, but if you invited to England to accept a Knighthood from the king you will go.
We’ve been programmed to despise and reject our own traditions while we adore, worship and embrace another man’s culture as being superior.
Who did this to us?!? You are the one wounding yourself. If we can't take chieftancy in our backyard, we can not travel far to take boy-boy title from anyone. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 10:20am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: I don't know what you gain in causing division in the body of Christ... They are not part of the body of Christ, so i definitely would not allow it to be said that they are. By their fruits, we know them and worse for them, i was in their numbers and like joseph of Arimithea, i did not consent to their activities. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 10:13am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: you mentioned stealing, adultery and murder. How does this relate to Catholics bowing to images? I said it up, and you saw it where i said "same Law"!. You are just trying to see if you can find something to say since you have nothing, as i told you, there is nothing for you to say. paxonel: You can arrest someone for stealing, how many Catholics have they arrested for bowing down to images? Off point! Arrest is not the point (for if the authorities do not arresr you, it does not mean you have not broken The Law. And lo, people have not been arrested for coveting, yet it is in breach of The Law. As i said, there is nothing valid for you to say paxonel: For the purpose transparency
Luke 24:50 And he led them out as far as to Bethany, and he lifted up his hands, and blessed them. Luke 24:51 And it came to pass, while he blessed them, he was parted from them, and carried up into heaven.
What's this? How does this relate? O oh! I hate phone typing. I meant Luke 23; 50/51 Here it is 50Now there was a man named Joseph, from the Jewish town of Arimathea. He was a member of the council, a good and righteous man, 51[b]who had not consented to their decision and action[/b] |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehood Of Original Sin by vdestro: 10:01am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian: If we can inherit sin a negative qualify from Adam why can we inherit any good deed from him?
Faulty theory of original sin! I just showed you, you inherited liking a woman enough to wife her, from him, yet you pretend not to see it, as you did for the remainder of my post. Anyway, this is E.O.D |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 9:53am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: ofcourse they bowed before Jesus. .. At least you have admitted that they indeed bowed, all other things you said are off point. paxonel: Those things aren't Idols, they are monuments of Christian martyrs of which Mary was one of them. ... Correction: Catholic creation of monuments depicting some Christian notables (as separate from catholic notables eg their father Tansi, Augustine etc) which they idolized. paxonel: they don't pray to any saint. Rather, they believe that these saints are still alive today praying Now you even know you are lying for they have many prayers to saint this, st that eg prayers to mary, joseph, then prayer to mary and joseph, benedict, dominic etc The way you are trying to defend this just clearly shows that you are catholic. Obviously, pastor chris don tire you. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 9:36am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: you know, if one is caught stealing or committing murder or adultery you can easily judge the person according to the law. But when someone bows to a graven image there is no law you can use to judge that one but the law of faith. What has been going on here? Is it not the judging of the catholics bowing to images, with The Law? There is actually nothing for you to say. paxonel: which bible describe Joseph as a righteous man, where?  Contrary to that
1 John 1: 8 says all have sinned, no righteous man Obviously you have not read the bible well enough. Luke 24:50/51. |
Christianity Etc › Re: See Where God Came From According To What He Said. by vdestro: 9:14am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Mkpiri mmiri on the move. |
Christianity Etc › Re: As A Preacher You Must Take A Firm Stand Against sexual Immorality by vdestro: 9:11am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Porksupplyib: Smiles. After reading all you have written I can easily see how confused you must be having to Read LIES in the bible from a so called apostle of Christ. it must be really confusing for you dear. I don't envy you. 
Now I asked a question earlier , please kindly provide a simple answer to it. Since you called OP a liar, what would your own sermon be regarding this issue (sexual sins) What will Christ do? And what will Christ have us do? Will it be to ignore or what exactly.
Kindly preach ur own sermon correcting OPs own. His sermon says you can fornicate upanda, as long as you obey Mathew 5. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Wrong For A Christian To Obtain A Chieftaincy Title? by vdestro: 9:07am On Jul 02, 2023 |
YinkaOlusesi16: if someone like baba ADEBOYE doesn't have any chieftaincy title, then I don't think I need one as a Christian. because baba is my role model. Talk true, you meant to say he is your god? Role model is just your coded way of saying god since you know that if you say so, you don finish everything. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehood Of Original Sin by vdestro: 9:05am On Jul 02, 2023*. Modified: 9:25am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian: No Muslim dare raise Muhammad more than his level of being a human prophet... I said more than Islam and now you have changed it to more than human prophet. So, clearly, you impliedly admit that Mohammed is greater than Islam. Which means that Islam is less than human beings. Which means that it is Mohammed you worship. But as i said, not the issue. AntiChristian: So na only sin Adam get to pass as inheritance?..! He also gave you his ability of liking a woman which made you marry and to know your wife to bear children, so you don't have any reasonable thing to say. E.O.D |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Rapes by vdestro: 8:54am On Jul 02, 2023 |
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Christianity Etc › Re: Is It Wrong For A Christian To Obtain A Chieftaincy Title? by vdestro: 8:52am On Jul 02, 2023 |
ThompsonJoo: Is it wrong for a Christian to obtain a chieftaincy title? If yes why? Depends on if chieftancy title is just a mere public gratitude being given in recognition of the righteousness of the Christian with no other meaning or ritual behind it. Which is where a plaque is sufficient, and i know my guy will throw it away, as he reaches his house For a Christian knows to run away from the praises of men! So, as usual, churchgoers may take it, but a christian knows he has the best honour greater than a chief, so he does not need a lesser title! It is even an insult. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 8:44am On Jul 02, 2023 |
davinchecodes: God said you shouldn't bow to any living things I said "living persons" not living things. And God knows that when we bow before living people, it is as a result of His Law of "respect the hoary head"/ honour the honourfull man. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Biblical Rapes by vdestro: 8:39am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian: Where's the lie? You lie because you have been corrected in your forner threads last year and now again, you came to say these blasphemies as if you have never been corrected. |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Theological Stance That Would Get You In This Position? by vdestro: 8:35am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Benblaq: Oh! The kingdom suffereth violence and violence taketh it by force, right?  Sure!  Also, time to kill, and a time to refrain from killing/time to cast stones and a time to gather swords, i mean stones.  |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 8:33am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: that is, in the old testament right? So is stealing, adultery and murder, all in the same Commandment and they are still in force today. paxonel: Joseph of Arimarhea in the bible was among the Pharisees doing everything the Pharisees does, but he was secret disciple of Jesus Christ, how do explain that? The bible described him as a rightous man which means that he was not doing every thing which the pharisees did and all his acts are within public knowledge, to earn him being called a rightous man, so, you still have no point. |
Christianity Etc › Re: The Falsehood Of Original Sin by vdestro: 8:18am On Jul 02, 2023 |
AntiChristian: My religion is Islam and not Mohammedism. Mohammedism is never mentioned in the Quran but Islam! Christianity was never practiced by christ nor mentioned as a religion in the Bible! It does not appear so. You people have raised Mohammed even above Islam as proven by your killing for saying whatever you people feel is against Mohammed. So evidently, Mohammed is greater than Islam. Any, not the issue. AntiChristian: Of course, it's easy to inherit Adam's sin but not Solomon's wealth! That is the difference between superficial and natural. Riches is superficial but definitely if your father has albinism, you will certainly inherit it. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 7:40am On Jul 02, 2023 |
paxonel: i ain't no catholic, but atleast i have interacted with some professional cathecists back then while i was in school and i asked them the same questions you are asking.
Here is the thing. Bowing before figures and images among Catholics does not necessarily mean worship but it is a traditional thing of the ancient Roman empire. In a bid to show respect to figures or biblical characters they consider heronic, they traditionally bow before their images and monuments, just like the Yoruba tradition demands that the younger ones bows before their elders. In such case, the younger ones are not said to worship their elders but rather, they are showing signs of respect.
But spiritually,, in the real sense, what is worship in Christianity? How do we distinguish between mere bowing down before someone, figures or images from worship?
John 4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Mark the phrase THE HOUR COMETH. It refers to the hour when Christ will die and resurrect. From that point the true worshippers begin to exist in contrast to those who worship during the old covenant. These true worshippers are believers.
So if Catholics have believed in Christ and they profess that Jesus is the Christ, then it is unfair to use their mere traditional practices of bowing and honoring monuments of faithful martyrs to judge them, seeing that tradition is already part of the people and there is nothing you can do to separate certain traditional practices from the people.
But what is fascinating is, most Catholics cannot explain what they do if you ask them. Because they are usually groomed to obey without asking questions Breautiful argument but still flawed. Why? Because, we all understand what God had in mind when He Said "do not make any image..." And obviously, the Romans disregarded God, just like the isrealites and did as they please, therefore setting the tradition of disregard of God. Thus, the yorubas bow to older living persons, but certainly never created images of the elder ones to bow to them. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 7:32am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Nsogbu001: U bow wen u meet ur elderly ones right? It's th d same Only the living elderly ones or even honourable living people But never to their photos or images, which of course we never even raise images of them. So, your reply is still off the Mark and out of Law! |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 7:25am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Nsogbu001: I'm not a Roman Catholic but I really prefer Catholic church than Pentecostal churches because everything is well organized in the catholic church. The solemn system of Catholic is compare to none. When you visit any of the major seminaries like, Bigard memorial seminary, you will agree with me that Catholic church is very powerful and unique. I know we all worship the same God but the solemnity of Catholic church is top notch. Share your own . It is a fraud and a lie to pretend that you have not always been a catholic. No none-catholic will ever go to a seminary |
Christianity Etc › Re: Why I Prefer Catholic Church To Pentecostal Churches by vdestro: 7:20am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Nsogbu001: They DON'T worship it. The HONOUR it only. This is proof that you have always been a catholic. That your honouring is worship especially the chanting part just proves babalawoism and then not to forget The Law on images, which you people rub and kiss and cry and bow to and pray to. So is their anything done to idols that you people have not done to your idols? (You also lift up sacrifices to it) |
Christianity Etc › Re: What Is Your Theological Stance That Would Get You In This Position? by vdestro: 7:13am On Jul 02, 2023 |
Just a simple living and trusting on God (belief). And i am always in and out of those situations, sometimes having my sword also drawn and most times saying "touch me na, if you get 2 head"!  |
Christianity Etc › Re: To Question God's Existence Is To Question If We Should Do The Good He Says by vdestro: 7:08am On Jul 02, 2023 |
kingxsamz: Atheists are just people who don't believe in sky fairies like your god. Anything concerning morals has nothing to do with atheism and every atheist is responsible for their behaviour. One would think those who believe in a god would be better, yet they're worse. The problem has always been getting people to act responsibly and belng punished for their wicked and bad acts and this is where, believers are better. |
Christianity Etc › Re: To Question God's Existence Is To Question If We Should Do The Good He Says by vdestro: 5:35pm On Jul 01, 2023 |
kingxsamz: Makes no sense. Aren't those who believe in the god doing all sorts of things that are considered unacceptable in their religion? So when we say we don't believe in a god, it means we don't subscribe to the lie of a magical sky fairy, not because we want the freedom to do anything. Anyone will do anything regardless of what they believe or don't. At least they have a persuasive and compelling Authourity Who people can appeal to, as a check on their activities whereas, who can change the minds of atheists? Certainly, no one would ask satan for we all know that he would never stop you people from doing any evil. kingxsamz: Also, the god you're referring to murdered kids, condoned murdering of kids and also ordered the murdering of kids. Such character is far from what you describe it. So your write up makes no sense. We are all God's property so He definitely has a right to determine which property should be destroyed, so you did not speak well at all. |
Christianity Etc › Re: Who Is Evil by vdestro: 2:22pm On Jul 01, 2023 |
Mynametoluilori: Evil is a term for against. . ? Which kain definition be dis when everyone knows that evil means something very very bad and very very wicked. |