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KnownUnknown:
... Regardless of these facts, the sky-man still somehow requires 10% and seems to like money now.

If you were not insane and evil, you would have seen that God demanded it so that His officers can use it to take care of the hungry and the poor to wipe away poverty from the land. Which is why i pray that you devils be cast into the volcano of forever pain and screaming, today, through accidents, stabbings, shootings, selfmurderings etc

First, not all religions were invented by man eg Christianity was not.

Secondly, evil men always seek to dominate hence they would seek and use all those things which affect people to act in specific ways for their mannipulation and control eg use of psychology, advertisement and noisemaking, fear, happiness, sex, etc

Thus, there are natural religions and there are manmade religions eg islam. J.W, catholicism etc

AntiChristian:
...One may ask, why is Jesus whose mission was to come on earth to die for our sins enjoining his disciples to ask God for forgiveness of their sins? Was Jesus aware not of his mission?

...

The only way you can appreciate Christianity is when you cast away your Mohammedism so that you can start at the very beginning to learn all that we Christians know but we would never be able to tell you.

So, the short answer is you and your muslim priest can never understand the bible, nor original sin and why Christ died.

And ofcourse you will get nothing while we you as enemies of God and antiChrist as you potray. So, it is best you continue in your islamism or you put it away and come with a clean heart to learn what Christ is about ftom the beginning. There is no shortcut.

Childfree:
When people call out rapist, is it because they are jealous of them?

When people call out thieves who steal, it is because they are jealous of them?

When people call out corrupt people and looters, it is because they are jealous of them?

When people call out jungle justice or mob action activities, is it because they are jealous of them?

I called out fraudsters, charlatans, who are deceiving innocent gullible people that a thing called god told them they should give 10% of their earnings, that they were assigned to collect it.

Your money you can do whatever you like with it.

I am only concerned about the thieves, charlatans, fraudsters... i.e the priest, Levi who started it, down to the pastors, apostles, daddy GO... who are also using the same stealing tactics that there is a thing called god who lives up in the sky. It instructed them to collect the money for it.

Why are you pained, did I attack you? Are you also one of the charlatans?

When people call out rapist, thieves and all those shits, it is for that period and after that, they move on. The only person who keeps talking about it after the moment has passed is one who we suspect of being a rapist or thief etc for we know that is one of the ways guilty people show themselves.

And in this case of tithes, it is known that the only people who keep complaining about tithes are those who are hungry, as thei hunger makes them of those who are enjoying, which makes them very very angry as they use something which is wrong with them to lash our on them.

And the bible shows that no levite commanded anyone to give tithes, it was God,Himself, The Owner of the world Who commanded it.

And from your post, you already have an issue with God, but right now, you are attacking tithes, so your issue with God is our of it.

gohf:
it's already here with man, true. But what defines good and evil?...

We all know that God has defined and set what good and evil is, and everyone, everywhere is bending under it. And that is the point of reference and determination.

So, even when people go into a different country, God's Law, and not legal which is man's own unlawful law, hence why you said "their law", is still the same and in force.

talented321:
I know where you are going that is it why i make it clear to you.

It is churchgoers who do that, which i believe that they are doing it to drive people away from God.

I never do that, for everyone knows that, the more you tell people to move in a particular direction, the more they resist and move the opposite direction. Therefore, those still doing forcefull preaching today, eg hollaring early in the morning or hollering on the road or going to peoples housed, are just devils trying to drive away people from God.

Preaching should only be done in church.

So, i believe in experience being the best teacher and that everyone who wants to put their hands in fire or electricity should not be stopped.

But know that there is always someone like me ready to laugh when they start shouting and crying exactly as i am doing to the idiot that was atagad, i mean chidinmad.

So, dont bother, i would never preach to you

Childfree:
I am no hungry nor bitter, you are the one it shows from your reply.

I am no fraudster nor a deceiver why should I tell people there is a thing called god in the sky and that he told me collect 10% of their earnings. Weak innocent people for that matter. I have empathy unlike you and your kind.

I did not accuse you of being a fraud/deceiver (seems you are confessing) but you are definitely hungry and bitter for your rant is exactly the jelous rants of a hungry person.

If you were not hungry, then you would have known what every other person knows, which is "everyday for the thief, one day for the owner" as we go on attaending to our affairs.

But it is always hungry poor people who talk about how certain people are becomng rich.

talented321:
You example of someone died of furnication is so dumb. Death is everywhere even inside your church, on your way travelling, on ur sleep. Telling me to believe in christinity so that i will not regret later is the biggest joke ever.
Christianity is a white man tradition such as we have muslim, our traditional worship and vice versa. Even the white people who give u this religion is not taking it this far again like we do here in nigeria.

The highlight is blocking you from seeing what i have said for no where did i ask you to follow Christianity. It is your right to choose to play with electricity or play ludo. That is entirely your business.

But without any doubt, it is known that we all pay the price for whatever decisions we make whether good or bad, like the people who died disgracefully and shamefully for their pursuits of fornication.

gohf:
and what you just wrote makes sense, how?

O man, we have gone passed this.

Not really.

Good and evil is already here with man whether people accept God to obey Him or not.

tobechi20:
Any advantage

1) They make you fear God more.

2) They make you love God more.

3) They make you know without doubt, the things which God hates, which leads to 4)

4) They make you know which things God must love.

5) They make you know the meaning of rapture.

Childfree:
Carry your bitterness and frustration go. I am not the one collecting your money. You can channel that to you pastor.

You saw the title of the thread, you decide to enter, you went ahead to respond with an incoherent jargon. How dumbb can someone be. Must you respond?

Your posts already shows that you are a very hungry bitter frustrated one who is pained that pastors are wacking peoples tithes. If you want to eat tithes, you already know what to do.

gohf:
so he wasted his time sending us to love and preach, to care, to bind and cast. Of course Jesus saves, but doesn't he save those who are brought to him.

Or did Jesus come to you himself or u found him yourself, and after such he told you not to bring anyone else to him, even those who may want to be saved but need a friend to lead them to him.

And you are back to the "i dey go read/i don read chapter 1-4 (telling/preaching part) which we have already settled, so no issue then.

gohf:
like I care what a hymn says

This is what love is, what love does. That u see someone about to fall and u stretch out your hand to help them.

If love isn't the path or goal of salvation then such salvation is useless

You can not stretch out your hand to save someone else when you yourself are trying not to fall.

And the only Person Who can save is Jesus, Who cannot Fall.

So, all of us should be looking to Him to save us.

gohf:
you now think the Christian race is now an examination? U did not read in the Bible where it says encourage one another, strengthens those who get weary or weak.

It's only a selfish competitive spirit that thinks the race for salvation is solely personal and without a care nor love for others.

Obviously we focus on our race but part of that race is helping as many and as much as possible as led by God

Encourage one another does not mean drop your book and serious preparation to start telling other candidates to read and prepare seriously for the exams.

None of us did that when we were preparing for the exams of our lives.

It was sufficient encouragement to say "me i don go house go read o" or "i don cover chapter 1- 4, so around 7 o clock i go start to dey study chapter 5.

And no one ever called this selfish. Even the hymn confirms it

I’m pressing on the upward way,
New heights I’m gaining every day;
Still praying as I onward bound,
“Lord, plant my feet on higher ground.”

No, we, only "i".

So everyone whether atheists or churchgoer would use their free mind and right to "i" along with me or do as they please. It is not by force.

Christianity is not like muslimity, free will and rights rule,

gohf:
what is this one even saying
Christianity does not really care about winning souls for Christian knows that it is very easy to lose once soul.

Where does this your beliefs come from

When you were writing your waec/jamb exams, did you take time pursuing and ensuring that your classmates were reading and preparing themselves also to pass the exams?

No, you didn't. None of us did for we knew our lives depended on it.

So it is with achieving the standards God has set for us in passing this exam of entering either the new world or lake of fire.

And it is already very very hard to pass as everyone has confessed, so how can a Christian have time to pursue other people to pass the same exam that he himself is writing?

talented321:
First of i recommend you for peaceful coexistence, let me tell u a brief about myself, my father is second in command at his church he was a christian before i was born. As for me i stop going to church at the age of 14 because[b] i love to live with experience[/b] and what i see, he try his possible best to convince me but it didn't work, i talk with reasons.
First of all what mess are you talking about, it is in this nigeria or where, christian folks are very poor they only enrich their leaders. U know why they are poor because they always expect miracles instead of them to go and work, they are busy praying and fasting.

I am exactly like you. Experience is my major teacher eg despite the warnings of "it will shock you o" i still touched naked wires. So, i have chopped the canes of experience till i learnt how to experience without being the one to experience the experience.

So i see people jumping into shits they would not like to enter and would have avoided them if they knew but however, because of certain errors and flaws on their part, then, experience would have to teach them. And sometimes plus most times as they get older, it is too late when experience has to teach them eg like a man who fornicates learns to late the death that a strange woman brings like this guy https://www.nairaland.com/7746574/sidechic-stabs-married-lover-death or Ataga. Proving true the idiom "everyday for the thief, one day for the owner/ one day monkey go go market and e no go return."

talented321:
before i am argueing this with u i have observe christianity for 30 good years, it is not am overnight experience.
Telling me christians are doing well more than others is a narrative to win souls not for people like me. I know the changes i get in my life when i stop to pray and fast rather face the reality of life and i am doing well today.
You were told that there is paradise after death that u should suffer on earth, it is a narrative of the white man to enslave u, look the world around we are very poor, the white man know what they are doing, that is why they abandon what they give u...

What you have been studying is the churchgoers and churchgoing, not Christianity.

Christianity does not really care about winning souls for Christian knows that it is very easy to lose once soul meanwhile it is very very difficult attaining the standard God accepts. Therefore, the only soul he is busy trying to win is his own.

And this is very very very hard already, so a Christian does not have time to win any other person as the road is very very long and very very hard as satan always attacks harder as he presses on towards the mark.

Thus, the christian is very very busy. It is church goers who people wrongly call Christians, who like atheists who need people to keep company with them.

A Christian does not need that for he knows that winners are those who go ahead of the crowd.

talented321:
What if u die one day and their is no heaven or hell.

Living has already confirmed that there is heaven (sweet bliss) and hell (sorrow,anguish and pain) and we have all experienced both here on earth, so definitely, they are there waiting for those who choose them

Childfree:
Simple question, do you pay tithe?
There is no need for all this epistle.

I responded to your post.

As to your question, my answer is, "its really none of your business especially as it is not your earnings i am using". Thank you.

talented321:
Then what is the essense of god since he cannot protect me against danger or death.
What is the purpose of worshipping or praising him, because i understand it is written that he is all powerful and control's everything.
But today a mere humans has the power to terminate the world.
CAN U EXPLAIN THAT?

Cain made his world record by killing 1, his grandson broke the record by killing 11, Hitler broke it by killinh millions, man has been killing since, so it is no brainer to see that one bastard would like to make his own record of killing all.

And this is where we Christians know what God has planned and set down plus of course He has been taking very good care of us and protecting us from all the shits going on in the world. So, life is very very sweet and good, which as we are looking at how people are suffering, we are just shouting thank you Lord for plucking us out of this mess.

So, even if they blow up the world today, i would he dying with a smile on my face for living has been very very sweet for me and i cant wait to see part 2 living which God has already promised that it is better than this one.

talented321:
But do you know know scientist can end this world, without you getting help from any where.

No different from when a murderer uses a stone to kill you

Childfree:
Someone told you a man in the sky said you should give 10% of your monthly income and he is the one to collect it for the sky man. How does this make sense to you? Is it a levy, tax or what?

They tell you is for the poor. Yet you don't see them giving it to the poor. Do you know how much the pastor makes in the name of offering, seed sowing or 10% from every salary/business earner in the church?

When people find gold they only tell their close famly and friends. And if anyone they tell does not understand, it is their loss.

As always and as is normal, all those who are in charge of anything are already liable to give account of their administration

talented321:
What i have observe for quite a long time.
Christian- u can die anytime
Muslim- u can die anytime
Kidnapper- u can die any time
Atheist- u can die any time
Olosho- u can die anytime and vice versa
every other persons can die at any time, except our politicians.
Till today there is no concrete explaination to this world, we all assuming.

When your phone expires or is hit by brute force or is attacked by viruses, does it not die?

That is the proof that we are toys and inventions just like our phones and mannequins.

KnownUnknown:
Ahhhhh, the 101st annual Mannequin Bash!! I hope they have real food and not mannequin food.

If you mannequin eat fake food called poundo and efo riro and drink irish cream, then, you are on your way this Mannequin Bash. Ooh, you could not fuel your car. Drop your addy, let me send a driver.

One more thing, why did this mannequin fall down? Why are other mannequins assisting him? They should leave him alone after all he can get himself up whenever he is ready.
https://www.nairaland.com/7747038/breaking-news-opm-apostle-chinyere

talented321:
1. You gats go and read what u type again.
2. Like i have said the bible is a book wisdom in some areas.
Apart from that If you want claim your validity with prediction, then what about the inventions where christian folk didnot do any, or you think the prediction is more important than the help scientist have rendered to humanity.

As soon as man was created he started inventing, so there is nothing new about inventing.

But surely, it is a very big deal to be informed about something disastrous which will destroy and mar our living. (Prediction)

KnownUnknown:
Do you want Ranch or Italian dressing for this word salad?

Not to worry. I am at a party rjght now and i am being very well catered for.

talented321:
1. Is irrelevant yet you want to give the credit to your god.

Don't change post. You are the one who made it about scientist and not about me, so its clear you can not go on here.

talented321:
2. Normally the bible is a book of wisdom in some areas, even some juju priests can predict the future, better still ordinary people too can look the present situations to predict the future.
Just as the invention of social media we all know in time to come the world will covered with immorality and vice versa. Those are normal predictions so he no matter

Yet it stands to record that no one, not you, not your scientists or your juju priests predicted any of the things we have already seen and experienced, not even the immorality, so you speak emptily.

Workch:
So as a Christian, Jesus christ is really not interested in your tithe. He's interests in Justice, Mercy and "faith"....

Go and check it, Justice, Mercy and "faith" are still the Things The Law Commanded. So The Law is still running its course.

And God has already told us His preferances eg obey His Words, do no evil, etc but people continue to do as they please.

talented321:
If u say God give him the talent/gift then go and find out 90% this scientist don't believe in your god or religion.

As it is irrelevant whether the Camry believes it was made by Toyota, so it is irrelevant that problem solvers aka scientist do not believe.

No one really cares whether they believe or not.

talented321:
Then how are u sure if he was creating by your god, apart from what you were taught in the bible or do you have another evidence apart that book.

Simple. The proof is in the absolute control of our lives and the foretelling of our future.

God Said, thousands of centuries ago that "we shall have hardness in buying and selling" and this year, we experienced it.

No other foresaid it.

Even your atheism and rebellion was foresaid and no other foresaid it.

Workch:
I'm still trying to find an actual evidence for Jesus. You should try as well

The biggest evidence is that we are witnesses to almost all the things He Said in Mathew 24, coming to pass.

Love has wax cold, the famly is destroyed as brothers now run from their brothers.

Workch:
Do you have evidence that I didn't place a teapot somewhere between the orbit ot Mars and Earth that no telescope can see? ...

Yes, i have! You can not leave the earth and neither have you left the earth, therefore you did not place any teapot in any space between mars and earth.

talented321:
Did you read what u wrote or u just use the same christian mindset to type what u like.
Somebody with his wisdom and hard work produce a car/phone and u said we should praise god instead of the person that produce the thing.
Mind u i was brought up in a christian family from south south.

If the person had died before producing his toy, would he be valuable?

If the person had not been provided for and enabled would he be valuable?

If the person had not been given the talent/gift to do what he did, would he be valuable?

If the person had not been given hands, feet, and all, would he be valuable?