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preciousee17:
I have seen a major problem here, you don't know the complete story of Paul
You mean Paul punished the early Christians, locked them up behind bars and killed them because he loved God?
I'll wait for you to correct this before replying anything at all to your numerous comments
Go and read the full story of Paul

Yes! He throught they were anti God for as his books show, he knew The Commandments (Law) too well and obviously thought that all should obey it, hence his fire and aggression in seeking its enforcement which is what the pharisees capitalized on him for.

Which is why from his answer to God, you can see it was not his intention to persecute The Lord.

But every atheists has expressed their full hatred for God. Paul did not do that and that is one of the differences.

1 Timothy 1:13
As a proud and violent man, I persecuted his people. But God gave me mercy because I did not know what I was doing. I did that before I became a believer.

preciousee17:
No Christian can totally forget about Christ but can a Christian leave Christ? YES!

Can a child run away from the father's house? YES!
Will he forget his father? NO!

Remember the prodigal son
The lost sheep...

A child will only runaway from his fathers house when that child is incompatible with his father. Otherwise, he will always always always be with his father.

That is who a Christian is, like Moses and God, Ruth and Naomi, isaac and Abraham and probably you and your family.

But if you hate your family or you are not happy with them you must stay away from them.

If the prodigal son had loved his father, he would not live far far away from him.

It is people we hate that we stay far from and never talk to, just as God does to those who hate Him

preciousee17:
Where in the Bible does God permanently reject and cast out atheists?
I'm curious to know...

From my knowledge, God so loved the world, not "God so loved the Christians"

God said that even you who is a true branch, do not rejoice because if you provoke me, I will cut you off and attach someone else (an unbeliever)

What of Paul? Wasn't he an Atheist? Why didn't God 'permanently reject him'?

Again, where did God say that He permanently rejects atheists, where please?

Paul was not an atheist, it was even in love for God that he acted.

See Esau with diligence and tears could not come back Hebrews-12:17

2 Chronicles 15:2.

If you seek Him, He will be found by you, but if you forsake Him, He will forsake you.

Preachers never point out this part.

preciousee17:
This is exactly what we don't need here...
What makes you better now?

First, it is not about me but about atheists and you are free to try opening a door which The Lord Himself has shut.

For if you were a Christian, you would know God and that He can never ever accept an atheist. You obviously don't know how hard it is to become an atheists.

And if after all the barriers a person still falls into it, such person can never ever return again.

preciousee17:
And yes, this thread is mainly for Christians who have left the faith
I have only generalized it because this is Nairaland, everyone is here.

You mean churchgoers and not Christians. No Christian can leave Christ.

benodic:
...In the above context, religions have been a complete failure in proving to the world that God exist. The behaviour of religious followers are actually the reason why Atheist exist.

You are wrong here. God has been proven several times even beyond reasonable doubt.

benodic:
You now find yourself in a world where people who don't believe in God are more loving, more humane and more progressive than people who profess that they believe in and love God and yet all you get from them is killings, hypocrisy, discriminations etc.

People now know that this was a deliberate propaganda towards promoting atheism and now that they have caught gullible folks, they have shown their true colour that they are agents of satan.

Devils aka atheists can not repent because God permanently rejects and casts them out, which is why they become atheists, so leave them alone.

Eviana:
This was an interesting and very long piece. Not a bad piece, but I must point something out.

I hope that I'm not offending this OP, BUT a "woman" in bible prophecy="church".

The specific verses that you referenced in Revelation 2:20-24, were referring to one of the seven churches, Thyatira, and the corruption that had infiltrated the church through the "Jezebelic" (Satanic) doctrine...which included the acceptance of sexual immorality amongst other things.
Seduction does not always refer to a person-on-person contact...


Revelation 2:18-25 (KJV)
[b]18 And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass;

19 I know thy works, and charity, and service, and faith, and thy patience, and thy works; and the last to be more than the first.

20 Notwithstanding I have a few things against thee, because thou sufferest that woman Jezebel, which calleth herself a prophetess, to teach and to seduce my servants to commit fornication, and to eat things sacrificed unto idols.

21 And I gave her space to repent of her fornication; and she repented not.

22 Behold, I will cast her into a bed, and them that commit adultery with her into great tribulation, except they repent of their deeds.

23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you according to your works.

24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, and which have not known the depths of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

25 But that which ye have already hold fast till I come.


"Seduction" in those verses wasn't necessarily referring to a literal woman seducing Godly men. It was a doctrines of devils that had crept into that church's once biblically-sound doctrines. The Lord is stating what will happen to those who keep perverting the gospel in His name...deliberately, but give grace to those who are new converts and to those who will repent.

The "Jezebelic" spirit is not gender specific...as I'm sure you know.
However, it looks like you started off pointing that out, but then went full blast on only a woman seductress for the rest of this piece. It was like you were focused solely on women being the perpetrators and the men being the innocent, Godly victims.
Men seducers are just as plentiful.....and probably even craftier than women at times....
I think the enemy does not care whom he uses, just as long as his plans are accomplished regarding a child of God.

I don't dispute that Delilah had a "jezebelic" spirit..she did and was used ultimately by the enemy.

I think it would've been more palatable had you written from the standpoint of a child of God being seduced....and kept it gender neutral.

His post did acknowledge that some men too are evils with the spirit of sex induction.

However, we all know that this is an evil predominantly perpetrated by women and that we have too too (let me add another too too) many women and girls, today are jezebels.

tip999:
Excellent. More pls

Very very true. I applaud the fact that he took the pains to pour them all out.

I can see all the evil women squirming and i can hear them hissing and wailing that one of their most evil and deep secret is being exposed.

And if you follow this, now you would see why God hates women and why He cursed Eve and all Eves big time such that He did not even finish concluding her case

Kobojunkie:
So the one who is seduced is not to blame but the woman who seduces? That is like a rapist blaming his rape victim for the rape right @MileZero ? ..

See devils twisting when you were supposed to say the raped following your line of reason of blaming the seduced.

You and satan will definitely share the same cell room in lake of fire.

Milezero:
...
However we look at one word and it is SEDUCTION.
SEDUCTION is a spirit which resides in a seducer to seduce people from God's way and Holiness into Satan's way and unholiness
Moreso,it is a way that leads people out of God's way into sinful way or sinful acts.
SEDUCTION is a spirit,seduction is a wave!!!!
Seduction is a teaching!!!!
Seduction is a spirit that leads one into the sin of fornication.
Seduction is also an art of Seducing through food and ,a form of defilement ,a form of pollution that brings about perversion of a Holy vessel or person to now begin to embrace what he or she once stood against or once preached against.
Seduction makes the seduced person hooked to the seducer via food,gifts or sex.
Seduction is an influence that lures people away from God...

Seduction is a coded word for "Sex Induction" that is why devils love it and use it very very well in destroying people when all other schemes fail

LordReed:
LoLz. Stating the obvious, mannequins don't have life but even without that not even comparable. We can see humans make mannequins; this god has not been seen making anything.

Now you see you are wrong for you have given your mannequins life even if their lives are not yet as long as yours.

And they are like you in all things save the powers you are yet to give them, exactly as God did to you.

Alvelt14:
You are wise but not that wise just ogbon sodiq

See how u remove the question from the original context

Just like me saying u said

Only if you are poor

That was the greatest part of your question, all others are less and everyone knows the right answers to them such that i did not believe that you seriously expected people to answer them.

Alvelt14:
I am not the one and you are not the one

If I jump into the he ocean, bro I won’t be dumb enough to do that .

We have rainy season bro

You obviously did not get it.

I pray one day, evil shall enter her house and stab her to death.

delkuf:
Tomorrow is Sunday, you guys are trying to push thread for tomorrow

Today is Holy Day, so it is in order.

Alvelt14:
1)How can I see him...

Only if you are pure.

LordReed:
How does life starting have to be by a god?...

Exactly as your mannequins life can not start and did not start without you. So, life started by God!

Alvelt14:
Honestly speaking I do believe there must be a supreme being, life have to start from somewhere.

If you look at all these religion from Islam to Christianity to Judaism to Buddhism even to our own traditional religion IFA and so on

Even the Greek methodology and the Vikings era

They all pointed to one supreme being or another

But for all I know it could be an illusion.

There was even some point in my life, I was so deep (not really deep but for me it was deep) in Islam to the extent I believed in Jinns
I believed people can turn to bird
I believed if u dress naked and swear for someone and it will catch the person
I believed in ritual
my bad I know 😂
Nollywood did me strong thing

It’s all fugayzi and it’s so fake.

Nevertheless just like religion, there are various forms of occultic event and occurrence out there and you have to be careful. People are manipulated heavily and can kill or maim there fellow humans

Thread carefully

I used to hate on the atheist so much but they could be right but i won’t tow that path

What I will advice is that be careful what you feed your mind for it will make or mar you.

What are your takes?

Whether you live it or not, you are not the one who built this beautiful house called world and put everything in it.

If you jump into the ocean you would drown and if you say that rain should not fall in june, the rain would luagh at you.

Maynmann:
Do you tell your car to worship you?

My car is very well compliant and no generator or keke marwa is disturbing it to look for my trouble, so we are fine and none of us are complaining.

However, you already know this is thread derailment to which i just answered to let you know that you still do not have any reasonable thing to say.

LordReed:
LoLz. So all the Christians that have died by wild animals what use was prayer to the god to them in those circumstances?

No christian has ever been killed by wild animals.

Maynmann:
Where did he get the material to create everything?
A car is created by a human but the raw materials are sourced outside of the human.

So if there was nothing and your god created everything where did he get the material to?

When a car asks you where did you get its materials from, you can then ask me.

Maynmann:
If you tell the A.l that you created everything, then who created the rubber and iron and from where was it created and who did it?

Did the mannequin not hear the word "everything"? You don't have anything reasonable to say.

LordReed:
You are free to believe your god evolved humans.

It is your right to believe that humans evolved but it is setttled beyond all reasonable doubt that no thing or human can evolve himself else many people would be travelling abroad without all those rubbish called passports and visas and our mannequins would be dragging our cars
and house with us.

Maynmann:
Where did the god get the material to create everything?

Do you think this is intelligent? Can your A.I mannequin know where you got rubber and iron?

LordReed:
They were not created, they evolved.

Like peak milk or toyota or ai mannequins evolved themselves.

Natbrowny:
Who says humans were created??

Yeah like you created yourself.

Maynmann:
How did we all know?

The question is not "what happens to kids during war", so off point.

Maynmann:
Children don’t fear war, prisons?

We all know they don't.

MaxInDHouse:
The covenant differ!

Case closed!

Only in terms of implementation exactly as Moses staff/speak to rock are both the execution of Gods Command Covenant of "I will be your God"

Dantedasz:
The questions you should be asking yourself is DID YAHWEH steal the characteristics of EL and from a pantheon of smaller gods become the main GOD?...

See how unreasonable you are? You are the one to answer the question i have pointed out from your post and not supposed to be switching argument.

I repeat, Look at your statement, do you see the big space and inconsistency in it?

We all understand why you dodged this question.

Maynmann:
Children do not fear these “real” things?

He said "real" things