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Politics › Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 3:42pm On Jul 01, 2011

bashr4:
people always claim that ikwerre man or rivers man will fight you if you call him an igbo man yet their traditional rulers are celebrating ada ndigbo in rivers state ,infact i think they came up with the trend, i always tell people not to take anything they read on nairaland seriously cause the situation is different in real life.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-325765.0.html

the link again for those that have not seen the celebration.

Did you notice that the amanyanabo of opobo was in attendance,how many other ijaw leaders was there?The day of reckoning is fast approaching.

Politics › Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 2:30pm On Jul 01, 2011

@bashr
pls can you help me to post the link to the thread "1st nigerdelta tourism,cultural fair and exbihition" here.@bashr
pls can you help me to post the link to the thread "1st nigerdelta tourism,cultural fair and exbihition" here.

Politics › Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 2:15pm On Jul 01, 2011

phantom:
^^^^utter rubbish, read it again, if it still makes sense to you, see a doctor!

Thanks

Politics › Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 7:49am On Jul 01, 2011

ak47mann:
didn't know that most of the people in rivers state be igbo people

Don't underate the power of junk journalism,they would rather promote division in igboland,without nairaland,i wouldn't have known of the position of OWA kingdom on igbo identity issues,what we are used to were igbo denials by men like agbontaen being hyped by junk journalist,just like we witnessed with okachikwu dibia.
Ndiigbo in rivers even participate in adaigbo rivers state beauty pageant,we have a thread on that in nairaland,someone should help me to post the link.

ak47mann:
didn't know that most of the people in rivers state be igbo people

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Politics › Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 5:46pm On Jun 30, 2011

Lol at anioma and ikwerre being "special igbos" what does that mean? The east central being mono cultural,i hate it when people whose knowledge about ndiigbo comes from what they read from junk journalists and who have not been to the east but like to comment on what they know nothing about.
Anioma and ikwerre are special because they have been interacting with non- igbo groups,then i guess the nsukka people,the izzi,aro are equally special igbos,this is ridiculous,it is not a must to comment,especially on issues you know nothing about.

Lol at anioma and ikwerre being "special igbos" what does that mean? The east central being mono cultural,i hate it when people whose knowledge about ndiigbo comes from what they read from junk journalists and who have not been to the east but like to comment on what they know nothing about.
Anioma and ikwerre are special because they have been interacting with non- igbo groups,then i guess the nsukka people,the izzi,aro are equally special igbos,this is ridiculous,it is not a must to comment,especially on issues you know nothing about.

Politics › Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 3:07pm On Jun 29, 2011

henry101:
Is Okiro from Imo or Rivers? I know He's from Egbema but got reasons to believe He's from Imo state.

He is from ogba/ndoni/egbema lga (ONELGA) of rivers state.Like chyz said,he is a "rivers man".

henry101:
Is Okiro from Imo or Rivers? I know He's from Egbema but got reasons to believe He's from Imo state.

He is from ogba/ndoni/egbema lga (ONELGA) of rivers state.Like chyz said,he is a "rivers man".

Politics › Re: River State Should Be Part Of The South East since Igbo have 6 governors by vicenzo(m): 2:18am On Jun 29, 2011

It will not be a good thing to stripe SS of its igbo groups,the SS tag can help us get things which ordinarily will not be possible,for example,okiro,the agunaechemba 1 of egbema was replaced by onovo as the IG of police,this would have raised eyebrows,but because okiro was supposed to be a "rivers man", nobody talked.
We can always hide behind SS mask,to get double portion of things in this country,for all we know peter odili could be be the president of nigeria,but that will not stop us from demanding for an igbo president and shouting marginalization,afterall odili is a "rivers man".
Notice how ndiigbo was shouting marginalization when okiro was appointed ahead of onovo as the police IG,even though we knew that okiro is the "agunaechemba 1 of egbema"

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Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 11:08am On Jun 28, 2011

@Chinenye.
I now understand your post.@Chinenye.
I now understand your post.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 11:07am On Jun 28, 2011

@Chinenye.
I now undestand your post.

Culture › Re: Origin Of Various Igbo Clans by vicenzo(m): 4:45am On Jun 28, 2011

ChinenyeN:
Title
Iye uma ida meni me - Ekpeye
Ihe oma nna mere m - Onwu/Standard

Chorus
Ida me meni me iye uma (my father has done me well)
Ida me meni me (my father has done [for] me)
Iye uma ida me meni me l'uwa m (basically; the good things my father has done for me)
unu me ekaa kwudula wee (?) (my mouth cannot say them all)

*not all these sounds are as simple as they look, here. Ekpeye has some unique consonants. I just simplified/approximated them to the Onwu equivalents.

Makes sense.My cousin is married to one of them,she has been learning the language,she said that ekpeye is ful of igbo words,the only difference is the way they pronounce them,when you try to write down the words ,it is basically the igbo words you know,but with a bizzare pronunciation that will leave you wondering what the speaker said,and then, other words that are definitely not igbo.

ChinenyeN:
Title
Iye uma ida meni me - Ekpeye
Ihe oma nna mere m - Onwu/Standard

Chorus
Ida me meni me iye uma (my father has done me well)
Ida me meni me (my father has done [for] me)
Iye uma ida me meni me l'uwa m (basically; the good things my father has done for me)
unu me ekaa kwudula wee (?) (my mouth cannot say them all)

*not all these sounds are as simple as they look, here. Ekpeye has some unique consonants. I just simplified/approximated them to the Onwu equivalents.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 4:04am On Jun 28, 2011

@Eko Ile
That post is meant for chinenye and not you.My mistake.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 3:56am On Jun 28, 2011

Eko Ile:
What's there to counter when both are not even related?

On another note though, bigots are intolerant people just like the anti G/ay homophobes in this thread, so what's your point?

That is not my question,my question is whether they are campaigning for rights, no? Then why bring them into the arguement,britain and other g'ay tolerant countries didn't notice until g'ays started campaigning,obviously the g'ays brought out strong points that convinced them,just like america didn't notice,until martin luther king jnr and others that started the black campaign, brought out strong points,that made the racist america to repent.
If tomorrow those two groups starts campaigning and bring out strong points enough to convnice the people, then may be the practice will be legalized,but all these incest and pedophile thing is just for cheap arguement sake,right now, it's not an issue as they are not campaigning for their rights,so all this "what of if," is irrelevant .

Eko Ile:
What's there to counter when both are not even related?

On another note though, bigots are intolerant people just like the anti G/ay homophobes in this thread, so what's your point?

Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by vicenzo(m): 3:24am On Jun 28, 2011

exotik:
"The money you lost in bank savings is a reparated funD to cover military cost."

^^^

Dat was funny , hahahaha

Believe me,there is nothing funny about that statement,it killed many igbos,the ones that survived became tougher.
It sent my grandfather to early grave,the old man was too hearthbroken to continue with life,the abandoned property saga that followed,was the last straw that broke the camels back,we became broke.that 20 pounds policy was primarily made to economically strangulate ndiigbo,few couldn't survive it,but those that did,became more determined to bouce back.

exotik:
"The money you lost in bank savings is a reparated funD to cover military cost."

^^^

Dat was funny , hahahaha

Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by vicenzo(m): 3:11am On Jun 28, 2011

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=458875.msg8596326#msg8596326 date=1309122929]When news of the bloodshed went on air the Eastern region was the only jubilating.

Those few Igbo officers were speaking for and acting on behalf of Okpara, the seat of administration for the people, and therefore by extension, the citizens themselves.
The followup to their success is backed by a widespread sponsorship of Igbo interests and unmerited promotions into corridors of power.

They assasinated in cold blood Yoruba and Hausa leaders and installed a new pattern of sponsorship where Igbos were advaned from low ranks of military and civil service and given headship of departments.

The few acted and spoke for the many.

In the war, why did you butcher innocent lives starting in Benin and all the way to Ore? You claim you were looking for Gowon. Sorry excuse! You deserved what you got.

When you fight and loose war the victor is obligated to charge you reparations.

The money you lost in bank savings is a reparated funD to cover military cost.[/quote]Now,somebody is high on kunu.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 2:32am On Jun 28, 2011

I wonder why some people are campaigning for pedophiles on this thread,are the pedophiles campaigning for rights?Why are people in order to justify their bigotry,create a problem that don't exist,the rate these bigots are quick to point at incest and pedophilia,one would think that these two groups are campaigning for rights Or am i missing something here.
Btw,why are people discussing about morals here,we are poor in the midst of abundance and people are talking about morals,if morals involves stealing your country dry,then i guess we have it,lets face the truth, if we actually have good morals,then we won't even need this aid,so we can as well stop this moral shit.
If we expect the british to support g'ay discrimination,on what basis do we expect her to fight against racism?I wonder why some people are campaigning for pedophiles on this thread,are the pedophiles campaigning for rights?Why are people in order to justify their bigotry,create a problem that don't exist,the rate these bigots are quick to point at incest and pedophilia,one would think that these two groups are campaigning for rights Or am i missing something here.
Btw,why are people discussing about morals here,we are poor in the midst of abundance and people are talking about morals,if morals involves stealing your country dry,then i guess we have it,lets face the truth, if we actually have good morals,then we won't even need this aid,so we can as well stop this moral shit.
If we expect the british to support g'ay discrimination,on what basis do we expect her to fight against racism?
Why was the FOI difficult to pass,while the g'ay law was easily made? Doesn't it show why we are still backwards,making bigotry a priority,rather than things that really matters.I wonder why some people are campaigning for pedophiles on this thread,are the pedophiles campaigning for rights?Why are people in order to justify their bigotry,create a problem that don't exist,the rate these bigots are quick to point at incest and pedophilia,one would think that these two groups are campaigning for rights Or am i missing something here.
Btw,why are people discussing about morals here,we are poor in the midst of abundance and people are talking about morals,if morals involves stealing your country dry,then i guess we have it,lets face the truth, if we actually have good morals,then we won't even need this aid,so we can as well stop this moral shit.
If we expect the british to support g'ay discrimination,on what basis do we expect her to fight against racism?I wonder why some people are campaigning for pedophiles on this thread,are the pedophiles campaigning for rights?Why are people in order to justify their bigotry,create a problem that don't exist,the rate these bigots are quick to point at incest and pedophilia,one would think that these two groups are campaigning for rights Or am i missing something here.
Btw,why are people discussing about morals here,we are poor in the midst of abundance and people are talking about morals,if morals involves stealing your country dry,then i guess we have it,lets face the truth, if we actually have good morals,then we won't even need this aid,so we can as well stop this moral shit.
If we expect the british to support g'ay discrimination,on what basis do we expect her to fight against racism?
Why was the FOI difficult to pass,while the g'ay law was easily made? Doesn't it show why we are still backwards,making bigotry a priority,rather than things that really matters.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 9:44pm On Jun 27, 2011

lastpage:
Don’t blame me! Blame my “Raging Hormones”! Is this a joke?
Okay, its the turn of the hormones to be blamed but if l recall, in Biology 101, it was hormones that made post-puberty boys to start producing semenal.Fluid, becoming barrel-chested, developing strong thigh muscles, e.t.c while their girl-counterparts develop bigger bosoms and bosom, curved hips and bigger backsides! Hormone did not make the boys develop busty bosom or sexy curves nor did it make gaals grow pe.nis?

Next please: Who or what next should we blame this deviant perverseness on? How about blaming it on “Eating Shrimps”?
Hormones my foot, take responsibility, at least for once, in your life and the choices you make.
I was just about to respond to this when l saw your response!
Like all queer people, they choose only “ideas” which support their queer lifestyle but cleverly (not so clever anyway, as in “clever through the ‘shyte-hole’!) leave out the inconvenient ones.

@Olumide[/b]Did you call yourself a “Great Mind”? LKWMD!!
I will take it that you have studied “Law and Morality” in school, as well but l am ashamed that your qualification/education did not ground you properly in the “Origins of British Law”!

[b]Lets see:
Culture is defined as the shared patterns of behaviors and interactions, cognitive constructs, and affective understanding that are learned through a process of socialization.
In summary, Culture is “how we do things over here”
Morals is “Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior”, “Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong”. Our Value System! “
In Summary, “Morals is conforming to what is “acceptable as right”, in our society”.

Now, we can see that both (Culture and Morals) are intertwined.

“What is acceptable as right here (Morals)” is exactly the same side of the coin as that which says “How we do things over here (Culture) ” thus, culture defers from country-to-country (on a large scale) and thus morals, by the same stretch, also defer, country to country.
There are usually “overlaps” since some things that are right (or wrong), cuts across national boundaries e.g, caring for children, not taking what belongs to others, (without permission) e.t.c

Now, pick-up any British Law Textbook and you will see that Constitutional Laws were originally derived from “Common Law”.
Common Law on the other hand, are a compilation of “Cultural and morally accepted Norms, over the years, within the British borders.
Thus, we can see the progression from: Morals >>Culture>>>Common Laws>>>Constitutional Laws
And by logic (if there was ever one in the gay.got’s arguments), Morals>>>>LAW. Q.E.D

Thing is, these gay.gots will never allow us be, they will always seek to gain more and more moral authority, hoping that by doing that, they would make their perverse and deviant ways acceptable to ALL OF US and thus force us to “join them”. They would use all sorts of illogical argument, threats, arm-twisting, political pressure, subtle force and even “AID”, to achieve their aim.

We are not saying they should change their ways, WE ONLY REQUIRE THAT THEY DO IT WITHIN THEMSELVES, AMONG THEMSELVES AND NOT MAKE IT A NATIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT MUST BE OBEYED BY EVERYONE! Sensible, ain't it?

Everyone must remain on guard, lest they slip and fall into this trap of the “sons and daughters of Lucifer”.

They are doomed but don’t want to “go down” alone hence their desperate attempt to force their deviant and perverse choice on everyone.
You chose to be a gay.GOT, go ahead pls!

I guess we are no longer hiding behind abandoned traditions,alien religions,naturality to spread our message of hate,the latest in town is morality,i guess our morality is on the high side,that's why we have stolen our country dry,thus needing aids from the british country of immorality.
Of course they choose to be g'ays just like you choose to be straight,i guess there was a time in your lifetime when you were attracted to both males and female but you choose the female why rejecting the male,i don't think so,but if you believe so,then you right about the g'ays choosing to be g'ay.

lastpage:
Don’t blame me! Blame my “Raging Hormones”! Is this a joke?
Okay, its the turn of the hormones to be blamed but if l recall, in Biology 101, it was hormones that made post-puberty boys to start producing semenal.Fluid, becoming barrel-chested, developing strong thigh muscles, e.t.c while their girl-counterparts develop bigger bosoms and bosom, curved hips and bigger backsides! Hormone did not make the boys develop busty bosom or sexy curves nor did it make gaals grow pe.nis?

Next please: Who or what next should we blame this deviant perverseness on? How about blaming it on “Eating Shrimps”?
Hormones my foot, take responsibility, at least for once, in your life and the choices you make.
I was just about to respond to this when l saw your response!
Like all queer people, they choose only “ideas” which support their queer lifestyle but cleverly (not so clever anyway, as in “clever through the ‘shyte-hole’!) leave out the inconvenient ones.

@Olumide[/b]Did you call yourself a “Great Mind”? LKWMD!!
I will take it that you have studied “Law and Morality” in school, as well but l am ashamed that your qualification/education did not ground you properly in the “Origins of British Law”!

[b]Lets see:
Culture is defined as the shared patterns of behaviors and interactions, cognitive constructs, and affective understanding that are learned through a process of socialization.
In summary, Culture is “how we do things over here”
Morals is “Conforming to standards of what is right or just in behavior”, “Arising from conscience or the sense of right and wrong”. Our Value System! “
In Summary, “Morals is conforming to what is “acceptable as right”, in our society”.

Now, we can see that both (Culture and Morals) are intertwined.

“What is acceptable as right here (Morals)” is exactly the same side of the coin as that which says “How we do things over here (Culture) ” thus, culture defers from country-to-country (on a large scale) and thus morals, by the same stretch, also defer, country to country.
There are usually “overlaps” since some things that are right (or wrong), cuts across national boundaries e.g, caring for children, not taking what belongs to others, (without permission) e.t.c

Now, pick-up any British Law Textbook and you will see that Constitutional Laws were originally derived from “Common Law”.
Common Law on the other hand, are a compilation of “Cultural and morally accepted Norms, over the years, within the British borders.
Thus, we can see the progression from: Morals >>Culture>>>Common Laws>>>Constitutional Laws
And by logic (if there was ever one in the gay.got’s arguments), Morals>>>>LAW. Q.E.D

Thing is, these gay.gots will never allow us be, they will always seek to gain more and more moral authority, hoping that by doing that, they would make their perverse and deviant ways acceptable to ALL OF US and thus force us to “join them”. They would use all sorts of illogical argument, threats, arm-twisting, political pressure, subtle force and even “AID”, to achieve their aim.

We are not saying they should change their ways, WE ONLY REQUIRE THAT THEY DO IT WITHIN THEMSELVES, AMONG THEMSELVES AND NOT MAKE IT A NATIONAL REQUIREMENT THAT MUST BE OBEYED BY EVERYONE! Sensible, ain't it?

Everyone must remain on guard, lest they slip and fall into this trap of the “sons and daughters of Lucifer”.

They are doomed but don’t want to “go down” alone hence their desperate attempt to force their deviant and perverse choice on everyone.
You chose to be a gay.GOT, go ahead pls!

Politics › Re: Why Is Revenue Gotten From Breweries Given To Sharia States? by vicenzo(m): 12:30pm On Jun 27, 2011

edoyad:
i understand. By the way, that na one plate of catfish pepper soup by the side . Just thought you should know.

See enjoyment o! grin

Celebrities › Re: Miss Taraba , Sylvia Nduka Is The Winner Of Most Beautiful Girl In Nigeria by vicenzo(m): 12:17pm On Jun 27, 2011

Seriously speaking,the girl is just average,with the number of beautiful girls roamimg around our campuses,we can do better than this,we are not going to produce another miss world with these kind of girls,nevertheless,Kudos to the winner,its not easy to have the confidence needed to come out for a competition like this.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 9:14am On Jun 27, 2011

davidylan:
my dear drop this nonsense pls. Testosterone is the sole androgen that determines whether you possess a pe_nis or v_agina. To dismiss it as just being there to "drive se'xual arousal" is just plain wrong. Seriously.

At least you are no longer throwing insults around,that's how it should be.
Yes i am aware of the function of sex differentiation into male and female by the testosterone,infact it is believed that the growing foetus can become a male,in certain circumstances,having penis and testis,if there is testosterone,even though genetically it was supposed to be a female,in this case oestrogen is said to be a default hormone,while presence or absence of testosterone is the sole determinant of gender.
But that is not my interest,my interest is "attraction" and role of testosterone in s'exual drive,it's concentration has been found to be the same in both g'ays and straights,which means that even though it is responsible for sex determination and secondary male characteristics in both g'ays and straights,it does not really drive you into homosexuality or heterosexuality,it just drives you towards your attraction,even a straight man with all the testosterone he is got,even though he believes he is wired to be with a woman,but the truth remains that he is just wired to the object of his attraction and he cannot just get up for every woman even though his equipment should naturaly fit into every woman.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 8:17am On Jun 27, 2011

davidylan:
Dumb! Testosterone's key job is to drive the development of the reproductive organs like the testes and prostate in males. It is CLEARLY wired towards heterosexuality . . .

In children born with androgen insensitivity syndrome (AIS), the cells of the male gonads are unable to respond to testosterone. In such cases, those children do not develop male reproductive organs but end up with poorly developed external female Cores.

Dude . . . you just cant make this up. What schools did you attend?

You are right about testosterone being key for secondary sexual characteristics,but that is not my interest,testosterone is the homone responsible for s'exual drive in males,this is a fact,you can goggle it,it's s'exual drive is not necessary towards the opposite sex,since it's level in the g'ays and straights are the same, this is the base of my arguement,deal with it and stop chasing shadows.
Stop throwing your hate around,just because somebody does not agree with you on an issue doesn't mean you should label the person's ideas as dumb,you can do better than that.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 1:42am On Jun 27, 2011

davidylan:
absolute proof that you are simply a brainwashed slowpoke.

Female sex hormones - estrogen - required to stimulate secondary female organs like the bosom (Its SOLE use being to raise offspring), prepare the uterus for implantation and stimulate development of ovaries and eggs they contain.
LH - helps release eggs from the follicle and into the fallopian tube
FSH - stimulates growth of egg-containing follicle.

Both LH and FSH perform similar functions in the male.

Now which of those 3 hormones are of any use in a Same-sex relationship?

If indeed nature designed some of us as homosexuals then why bother with those hormones? Of what use is a period to a lady-loving-lady? Why carry around male testes or prostate prone to cancer with age if i'm genetically designated a Same-sex?

Why the insults,can't you make your point without it,or is there just so much hate to throw around.
Actually i am more interested in testosterone,it's the hormone responsible for intimate drive in both male and female,and it is not wired towards heterosexuality or homosexuality,its just for intimate drive,researchers have found no difference between testosterone levels in g'ays and in straight men.
Whether you like it or not,the only reason you want to put your manliness into a womanliness,is because you are attracted to a woman,that my friend has nothing to do with the functions of those hormones you mentioned
,there are many women with the right hormones and equipment that you cannot just get it up for,attraction is the key word.
Why carry around the appendix,when there is risk of appendicitis,of want need is the appendix to it's owner?

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 10:21pm On Jun 26, 2011

BetaThings:
In a society where there are norms, people should be disgusted when they see bestiality
But you never know these days, known dad and daughter making out may no longer be an issue then
So I was attracted to boys! I did not know. Did I confider in you when I came for consultation?
You seem to believe only those things are favourable to your argument.
Let them continue to fight - that is all they are contributing - agitation, shocking us, in our face
You cannot fight an insidious serpent
Look at how a very small band of noisy perverts are shaping the same-sex marriage argument
Heterosexual parents did not notice until parents discovered that uncles were brainwashing juveniles

Going by your arguement,don't you think that heterosexual parents should be blamed for not protecting their children and puting the "right ideas" into their children,thus allowing them to be converted to g'ays,may be we have to make laws to punish them too,just kiding.
Meanwhile,nobody has explained to me why it took ages to pass the FOI bill,while it was so easy to make the gay law,i am inclined to believe that it is because we are more interested in bigotry than in the issues that actually affects us.

Culture › Re: Delta Igbo, Bendel Igbo: What Does That Even Mean. by vicenzo(m): 9:54pm On Jun 26, 2011

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=458875.msg8592193#msg8592193 date=1309067176]Perhaps we were all being emotional here.What I will not accept is to rewrite history, no matter how sad or bitter it is.Anioma people have forged ahead but cant forget what happened especially the kind of reaction from the Benin, Yes, it was wrong to have invaded the Midwest but it was inevitable , Why ? Because the Midwest region had a subtantial percentage of her citizens identified as Igbos.We were not spared in the North when the killings occured nor in the Military and Ejoor who took over from Osadebay did practically nothing to make us feel we have stake in the Midwest.I have records of his visit to my my home town.Our people complained bitterly that we were killed in the North and unlike the East which was more assertive to question the justification for the killings he was mute and nothing was even made to compensate those who left the North with their lives.

Ogbuefi, I believe the above quotation came from one of your responses.

I am following the discussion but will make best effort to restrain my response, unless where giving my voice to the issue is a necessity to establish truth and correct errors in understanding and perception.

This point has been argued numerous times and Igbos refuse to admit that any injuries, fatalities, losses, damages, humiliation, that you suffered during the 67 coup and the coup was forward-earned by your widespread and selective cold blood murders, first of Yoruba and Hausa leaders; and second, as you marched from Benin and butchered lives along the way to Ore.

When you start a fight it will end in an unpredictable outcome, sometime with less blow hitting you than you delivered, and other times with far more blows knocking you out than you had delivered. There is regulation in peace, but none in war!

You are bitter that Ejoor did not advocate for compensation for losses. Do you think war is a boxing enterprise where the winner still get a consolation price?

, And then blamed Awo for only giving 20 pounds. Well, here is a question for you: what did Ojukwu do to help your recovery? What did Zik or Okpara did to aid your recovery. You blame everyone else but the patrons of your war, but yet you welcomed Ojukwu back as an hero and hated awo and Ejoor and Gowon for life.[/quote]Dude,i don't get your point,few igbo military men killed other millitary men and leaders from north,the north carried a counter coup that killed igbo millitary men and leader ironsi,shouldn't what happened in the millitary an the the elite class stay amongst them,why drag innocent citizens into it.
We didn't ask anybody to give us anything,begging is not tolerated in igboland,we simply asked that what we had in the bank should be given back to us, but no,awolowo wanted to economically strangulate ndiigbo,who the hell pushes somebody that is already on the ground,but ndiigbo are tough people from the ashes of the war and awo's wickedness,we rose to become the people with the lowest poverty rate in nigeria.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 9:13pm On Jun 26, 2011

BetaThings:
Homo.sex.ual = Paedophilia. Yes or No. No
Armed Robbery = Drug Pushing? Yes or No. No
Perjury = Stealing? Yes or No. No

Why not answer him,why are you avoiding his question,you have always been comparing the both,while not show him the similarities between the two.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 9:06pm On Jun 26, 2011

davidylan:
Nobody "chooses" to be straight, that is a false dichotomy that has been recently introduced by those pushing the fallacy that homosexuality is just human nature. You are genetically engineered to be straight. Every part of your reproductive system is designed to fit a womans and vice versa.

Again thats false. your hormones are designed to involve you in a heterosexual union.

Now if this is not the very definition of confusion then i dont know what is. Being man-lover is natural YET man-loving-men want children? From where? A heterosexual union? Why dont they have children via their own "natural" intimate orientation?

Hormones are designed to lead you to sexual adventures,not necessary heterosexual ones.
Yes,every part of a male body is designed to fit the female's body,but nobody does that without the attraction,heck! Every part of your body is designed to fit any woman but you are not necessary sexually attracted to every woman,so it is not a matter of design but a matter of attraction.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 8:38pm On Jun 26, 2011

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BetaThings:
Why do you think people abuse homosexuality and subsequently apologise
Because they spoke their minds but these homosexuals are too loud

If I own my dog, why should I not marry it without consent if it is my choice
and you have said my choice suffices for my dog
But would you be happy to see us kiss and pet in your neighbourhood
While you are on a family picnic, Can I visit the same beach with my dog-wife and show our feelings while you watch
I am asking for the same open-mindedness you are preaching

How can you be more than certain that a dog wants to be tied to a leash
Have you seen the dogs working with the Navy SEALS
They clearly believe they are capable of more than that
Can we see how the "enlightened people" really are

Do you not think that I will not allow a Same-sex to work in my child's daycare because of "best interest"
I don't want anybody putting some wrong ideas in my baby's ahead
you have argued that until a certain age, children cannot make rationale decision
That should not apply to only paedophilia, it should be extended to Same-sex indoctrination
I saw dad and mum, I saw that I am anatomically different from the girls I see, I also wish to perpetuate my lineage
So did I choose - there is nothing to choose - I am a human being and I do things that I am naturally equipped to do
I am not equipped to carry a baby or produce egg, where is the choice that I can make?
I am not interested in genetic modification

You asked whether we will be happy to see you and dog -wife make out,even though this is a wrong example,but one can easily see that the problem here is that you think it's disgusting and eyesore,just like the racist would not like to see your black ass polluting the beach with your black curse.
You choose to be straight,really? I mean there was a time you were attracted to both boys and girls,and you decided to be be attracted to girls alone and you switched off the same sex attraction.
You do things you are naturally equipped to do or you simply followed the direction your raging hormones was leading you to,i am more inclined to believe the later,for even g'ays wish to have children,their hormones is not just leading them in the right direction,and there is nothing anyone can do about that,that's why they are also fighting for child adoption right,some of them even do have children by surrogate like ricky martins did.
I wonder why people say that they are worried about g'ays puting the wrong ideas into their child's head,i wonder why heterosexual parents and siblings ended up not puting the ''right ideas'' into their g'ay children's head.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 5:31pm On Jun 26, 2011

BetaThings:
So it is about effect on the economy now
If we know that training armed robbers to go an plunder neighbouring countries and bringing the proceeds home will grow our economy, we would support it?
A man doing his mum does not affect the economy, we should allow it?
So an employer can go to jail for discriminating against the red lipstick-wearing lady? Do we need to upturn our laws to enforce the lady's rights to a job?
Please no trivialise this matter

Economy? Shouldn't that be what people should be interested in,having a daily three square meal,good roads,quality education,a stronger naira. With a mind set like yours,you wonder why the country is limbo,people would rather vote for an slowpoke from his region than for a competent man from another region,simply because he is more interested in bigotry rather than the economy.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 5:18pm On Jun 26, 2011

J12:
Are these people requesting for special rights?

Are people making death laws against their lifestyles?

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 5:13pm On Jun 26, 2011

J12:
But if I were "native doctor" or "traditional worshiper" who pays his rites to his traditional gods, and I am totally against same sex relationships. Would that still make me and ancestors bigots?

No, because you have a bigger fish to fry,your first priority should be to restore the dignity of our gods,you have to demolish the white man shrine that has been elected every where in igboland,and replace it with amadioha shrine,you have to make sure that amadioha reigns supreme first,we know that the god's fight their own battles,may be it will strike down the gays for you grin

Btw,even if you still follow the ancient ways,you are a minority,most people against gays are members of alien religions.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 4:57pm On Jun 26, 2011

Sagamite:
You maintain your daft comparison.

It makes me laugh as well as infuriate me when man-lover people and their supporters try to gain credibility for their man-lover perversion by sticking their cause like a leech to civil rights causes. It is laughable and annoying.

If you live in the UK, you will notice that the man-lover rights campaigner, Peter Thatchell, will always make a reference to racism before "homophobia" (if the word is even legitimate) IN ALL HIS SPEECHES. That way he ensures that anybody that disagrees with him risk the tag of being labelled likely a racist. CHEAP PROPAGANDA!

Let me make it as clear as the finest pacific beaches to you why there is hardly any link between the two.

RACISM is discrimination based on SUPERIORITY.

ANTI-man-lover is "discrimination" based on MORALITY. (note the quotation marks)

SUPERIORITY and MORALITY are two completely different context contrary to the brainwashing they give some of you in the pro-man-lover western world.

What next?

Paedophiles comparing their "discrimination" to the black cause?

You can put Racism, Sexism, Ageism, Ethnicism etc in the same context. These are natural!

But please, pretty please with a sugar on top, don't put faggotism in that category. It is in the ball park with In-cest, Buggery and Necrophilia, a morality deviancy induced existence. These are unnatural!

At least you are no longer using cretin and moorons,you have graduated to using daft,that is an improvement.
First they hide behind ancient ways and traditions which they have already abandoned for the whiteman's god and arab god,then they hide behind alien religions,now they are hiding behind morality and naturality,how pathetic,dude, you know you have failed the defend this your naturality claim before,i guess our morals are on the high side,thats why our country is in limbo,with everybody stealing it dry.
Why not admit that the only reason you are against gays,is that you find the act disgusting,i will even agree with you on that,because i myself find it disgusting,i also find the use of red lipsticks by some women disgusting,but how those whats disgusting affect our country's economy,how the hell did it take us ages to pass the FOI bill,while gay law was easily made.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 4:06pm On Jun 26, 2011

J12:
What the hell is this guy saying?

That you cannot hide behind our ancestor's views and traditions to project your bigotry since you have long abandoned the ancient gods for the white man god and the arab god.
That you cannot hide behind christianity and islam either,since those religion are alien to our ancestors.
That you should be man enough to hide behind your bigotry when projecting your message of hate.

Politics › Re: Britain Links Homophobia In Africa To Foreign Aid.is That The Right Thing To Do? by vicenzo(m): 2:17pm On Jun 26, 2011

BetaThings:
Leave sophistry alone
A white may not want his white daughter to marry a black, I can understand. It is not just about curse
It is not every Hausa than wants to marry Ibo, I can understand that too
There is a commonality, people may not want to mix their blood
We even caste system in Nigeria with our dark skin. We can deal with that
But note that every society - white, black, yellow - see homosexuality as a problem,
Actually it is a disease just like peadophilia

I am not tolerant of perversion and deviancy. There are things we cannot tolerate
Certain things offend - armed robbery, homosexuality
Homosexuality things destroy way of life, culture, social system. cohesion

Hausas and Ibos will continue to quarrel because they are jostling for limited resources
That is normal in life
Afterall, Americans attack Chinese all the time about their unfair trade practices

But Homosexuality - no it is not difference - it is noise in the brain, deviancy

Most of the examples of the similarities between man-lover right struggle and black right struggle actually happened years ago and not now the bigots have been put in their place,marry a white girl? Dude marriage is between man and a woman and not between a man and low species,you cannot even sit in a bus while a human(whites) is standing,and you are talking about marry a white,that was how things were before martin luther king's struggle.Caste system? Dude that is practised between animals of the same specie,not a human(whites) and a lowlife(blacks).Though you are right about the discrimination not being about black curse,it was about differences,but a bigot will always hid behind something while projecting his hate.
Homosexuality is a disease? Are you for real?

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