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ogugua1: Vicjustice, wats good. I have this quick question. There is a guy i know, he was issued a UK visa about 2005. He got to the Uk planning to board a plane with an altered British passport to canada. He was arrested and sentenced to 6months to prison. Now the thing is this, after his prison term, he was released and was not deported back to Naija but he says that he met fellow naija folks who were in prison for the same crime but after their term they were deported back to niger and he was allowed to stay. He left the Uk on his own free will back to Naija, now he is in Switzerland, married to a swiss and they plan visiting the UK for the holiday. I need ur opinion do you think he stands a chance cos he was not recommended for deportation and since he is married to an EU national does that help. Holla back, awaiting your response and other members too. Thanks

Fin9: @op, to deviate a little, is there anything like no visa-needed application into any EU country? Someone told me that Belarus ( state university) do not require visa for an international student. Is this true?

muumuu: @vics..if i wanna know if i have been banned,how do i go about it plz?cus most of us only knows the way to the collection centre,can one make inquiries there?

Dotman01: @vicjustice
Is this system only applicable to the uk? Or other countries like us, canada do the same?

jude33084: Thanks for the information. Sir I will also like to know about travelling to Canada/Uk through marriage status; that is a man/woman that is based in naija getting married to a citizen or somebody with a valid doc of these country. What will be their fate if applying for immigrant visas? Thanks

Opoki: @Op: thanks for this informative post. I'm into mechanised farming and processing with a registered company and a bit into Forex, i have a company account with some few hundreds of thousands and as well as a personal account domiciled in both Naira and USD majorly for Forex trading (withdrals and Deposits) with few hundreds of bucks as well, which a/c can i use to sponsor someone say wifey and 2children for a Visiting Visa to US?

henrychubayo: This forum is very educative. Before you said these, i know it very well but not all our ppl know the these. So here, they can learn, understand, and apply it into action so as to have a success in their applications. But as you stated, company statement cannot be used to apply in some areas. But i think that you can still use it to apply in some. For instance, if you are going abroad for training, seminar or conference sponsored by your employee or company, would they still request a personal statement of account from you bearing in mind that the company will provide all the financial assistance you need for the trip?

beejaybida: Hi, VicJustice. Quick clarification needed on this "Money Lodgement" issue.i asked you earlier in the enquiries group but the shorthand language you deemed confusing. sorry abt that. My annuals (as stated/broken down in employer letter of intro) is 6 Million made up of salary (180k monthly) and various allowances. On a particular month, we received an allowance into my salary current account which i put into fixed deposit with the same bank so as not to overspend. I ask you, if i liquidate the fixed deposit 2 months to application and the bank credits back into my salary current account (where the funds were taken from initially) with the proceeds, would it still be "Money Lodgement"? kindly note that 1. the trasaction is directly traceable to the account, 2. all my salary and other allowances go thru the account, so there is history of income and expenditure over a long time, 3. i shall attach with application all the fixed deposit certificates given for the period as well as a detailed explanation refering to the bank statement on when the funds were debited by the bank and were credited back too. 4. The funds is good enough to sustain us for the trip as well as have something left for after the trip. Thank you.

raphrinco: Hello brethren going by the addage that there is no "harm in trial"please i need your contributions and advice on
going to European countries like Norway,finland,Luxembourg etc but actually there is nothing in this life that comes easily
and is good to start from some where .Many stars today started from amateur and then to professinal level,so starting from local,regional,semi pro,lower divisions and professional team.please I need your advice.

A lot of people make the mistake of making deposits into their bank accounts prior to visa application; this action is called "Money Lodgement" which is an express ground for visa refusal: Do not naively commit this violation (by depositing lump sums of money into an account which apparently stands in isolation) for presentation purpose.
Such account does not meet the requirement of an acceptable bank statement so, applying for a visa with it will only give you a definite result, REFUSAL.

This is how it works; An acceptable bank statement must have up to six months transaction records demonstrating your income (from verifiable sources) and expenditures, and it must have good enough fund to sustain your trip and intentions, and also; it must have enough balance to keep you going after the trip: preferably, a Current account, Savings account, Salary or Wages account:
Importantly, you must be able to satisfy your Visa Officer that you have somewhat of an obligation or home tie to return to Nigeria for.
I regret to say that until your bank statements meet the standard format as explained, you will continue to get refused no matter how many times you applied or how much money you have in your accounts

For those considering the use of sponsor, be aware that there are very few circumstances in which it may be considerable for an adult applicant to use a sponsor, such sponsor may be a Spouse (especially for Family Reunion) or Parents/Guidians (especially for Education or for medical reasons) etc. But if you are considering the use of a Company's account, that would be unacceptable (even if you own the company). For a company's sponsorship to be acceptable, you would need to be applying for a training or a course, or a seminar etc that would be deemed profitable to your company in order to satisfy the visa officer of the purpose otherwise, it would be judged that the money in the company's account is not available for your use: unless your company is offering you a complimentary vacation under its care.
And as an adult, you are supposed to be financially independent to meet the requirement for a tourist or pleasure visa; for example, you can't be sponsored by anyone if your intended travel is for the purpose of tourism or romance rather than official or compelling family visit (no sponsor's bank account can cover you except in compelling limited circumstances whereby it is deemed reasonable for his sponsorship to be considered).
*A presentable account has to meet the requirements and the formation of the bank statement that is acceptable as explained in the bolded part of the above paragraph.

It it extremely important to make your visa application early in order to give the embassy enough time to process your application: many people are refused for reason of insufficient time: There is always a general warning that visa applicants should give plenty of time to process applications as delays may occur due to uncertainties and circumstances beyond their control, and in the event that your application is decided after the purpose of your intended trip has expired or is in a tight situation, your visa application may be refused for reason of "change of circumstance".

I decided to add this (my earlier) post since it continues to happen that many people still find themselves in this unfortunate situation, and I thought i should lay emphasis to save people's money.
This informational advice is for country-men and women who continue to bin their thousands of Naira attempting to obtain the UK or the US visas while being unaware that they are under a ban for ten years or for life respectively.
Have you ever been refused a UK visa on the basis of fraudulent, fake, or misleading documents or even serious sensitive misinformation? If so, then apply for a UK visa no more, keep your application fees and try for other countries.
If you committed this act before the 10 years ban came into effect, as long as your finger-prints were taken, you would get the ban on your next visa application: only those who committed it before finger-print era are free from this merciless punishment
It is unfortunate that, except you take measures, you might not be able to find out whether you carry the ten years ban based on fraudulent or misleading documents presentation or, false declaration; this is the unfair method that the UK embassy uses to punish individuals who had attempted to use fake or misleading documents to obtain their visa: they allow them to re-apply unaware of the ban while they extract the visa application fee from the unsuspecting applicants.
If you are unsure of your ban/no-ban status, you are entitled to the rights of knowing your eligibility for the UK visa after refusal and the staff are obliged to let you know it. But however, if you wish to make subsequent application, you can inquire before making your payment: ask them to inform you of your status before paying the visa fee, it is their duty to notify you of it if you ask them even during fresh application.
These said, another way (perhaps the most effective way) that you can find out is your own intuition, you should know whether you were detected presenting any fake, fraudulent or misleading documents or serious sensitive misinformation to support your previous application. And if you were, then, there is no two ways about it, you've just been banned (unaware) for ten good years. Period.

The sad truth is: you did not receive the ban from making subsequent applications, but rather you received the ban from obtaining a UK visa of any category. So, it is up to you to apply a hundred or a thousand times while under a ban, but you will never be given a visa except after the ten years ban expires.
There was this case of a Nigerian visa applicant who was refused a visa for reason of forged documents that he presented in his previous application; after some time, he eventually came clean in his new application, but still he was refused a visa on the basis of the "fraud documents" that he submitted in his previous application. Yet, the cruel visa officer did not advise the mugu applicant that he was under a ban, but the country-man who obviously found no reason for his recent refusal was wise enough to ask about his chance of getting the visa in future application, and then the visa officer was obliged to let him know that he had been under a ban even before his recently denied application was made.
Now, had this countryman known that he was under a ban, he wouldn't have spent his hard-earned money all through that stress and trouble to apply for a visa that will never be issued him?

So, considering the fact that at the UK embassy, over 9000 applicants were caught with fraudulent documentsg in just one year, I wish to request that this thread be kept alive so that others would see it and avoid binning their money, this thread can save millions or even billions of Naira.


NOTE 1: The same applies to the USA visa application, but considering the LIFE BAN that you can get from the US if caught with fake or misleading documents or misinformation, the UK 10 years ban is merciful.

NOTE 2: For expectant mothers; know that it is a serious violation to conceal pregnancy during visa application, and it is even more serious to give birth in a country if your visa is not issued on medical ground: and worse still, to deny the awareness.
And unlike the merciful 10 years ban that is applicable with the UK, You may never be issued a US visa again, this violation MAY attract a life ban from the USA depending on circumstances and judgement
NOTE 3: I am not a Travel or "Visa" agent. And if anyone tells you that he is a visa agent, run away from the person because, most of the people who get into bans are those who solicit the services of syndicates who profess themselves "visa agents".
YOU CAN APPLY FOR THE VISAS YOURSELVES, and you will be sure of the documents that you use. But if you solicit (the so called) visa agents for assistance, you might not know when fake or tampered documents are added to your application, and the result will be a LIFE BAN from the USA.
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ladkins: Morning 2 u all, can u guys kindly give an answer 2 ♍Ɣ question so it cld ease ♍Ɣ worries...i applied for a family visit visa going for ♍Ɣ sister graduation ceremony...wit ♍Ɣ dad as ♍Ɣ sponsor wit almost 3M in his account....but on ♍Ɣ statement of account it states dat i deposited about 68000 few day b4 d submission of ♍Ɣ application.....pls wld it affect since am not d one sponsoring ♍Ɣ trip and how long dose it take to gε̲̣̣̣̥τ̲̅ a Family Visit visa.....pls pls and pls can someone pls give me an answer....10ks

nwabobo: Justwise and Vicjustice,

Just a quick one. How about someone presenting a company account in which case the company is involved in construction contracts and lump sums are paid in periodically (not frequent) when projects reach certain completion levels. In this case, the person is expecting a payment of more than 5M naira from a govt ministry and intends to print out the statement as soon as the money hits the account. Would this also be treated as money lodgement as this would be a payment for a contract which is being executed. Thanks.

everystep87: Hello All,


Trust you are doing great.

I applied for a UK visa (Tourist) but I was refused visa based on the ground that, I have insufficient amount in my account if they remove N480, 000 from the bank statement i submitted.


I applied with a statement of account of N1.3 million. What surprised me was that, they say the amount is insufficient for 1week tourist visit to the UK.

I included my company’s introduction letter, hotel reservation, annual leave letter, marriage certificate and pictures, bank statement of N1.3million, company’s ID card, landed property inherited, my personal landed property too, rent receipt to show i have other source of income,letter of consent from my wife that shes aware am travelling for holiday e.t.c.

I first applied in April 2012, i was denied based on the ground that N600, 000 deposited into account on the April 6days before applying was suspicious

I re-apply on in May, 2012 which i explained how the money came about, that i withdraw it from my account in may and deposited same day into another acct of mine and i was refused again based on finance aspect again. The ECO state that, 150, 000 was deposited into my acct on 2nd of May and 200, 000 on the 5th of May that he doubt if this money are available for me.

In my form, i filled that i own inherited property from my late mum which i collect rent from

and this money are rent paid. I supported my claim with rent receipts and document of the property inherited and own by myself.

Am seeking for your advice on what to do. I dont want to re-apply and still turn down for the same thing the 3rd time.

I will glad to hear from you soon.

I got advice from people saying that i should invovle a lawyer to write them, some say i should go to their website and seek for administrative review, some say i should get a family or friends abroad to send me invitation letter and i should apply with that while some say i should stay away from them for six months since i have been refused 2wice in 2months. I wil be glad the house CANDID oppinion. I work with one of the Multi-national organisation as a customer service officer.
Thanks

everystep87: Yes i used my salary account, plus my 3 other accounts making 4 banks statement submitted.

everystep87: my salary account has a balance of 520,000. my current has a balance of 590, 000, my other 2 accounts has a balance of 170k and 20k respectively. thamks

Mosesbecky: Got invitaion latter on friday to study in vn karazin national university in ukraine kharkiv. My problem now is the visa because the woman said i would have to pay 1500d for visa assistance or go there with required document and pray 2word it. Please nairaland..... do u think d visa assistance fee is much and how can i get a visa assistance which i should be sure of visa in abuja

dappyboy: Hi everyone, please i need your urgent advice and suggestion, am a Serving Captain in the Nigerian Army, and a breadwinner in a family of 5, my immediate younger brother who has been a graduate for yrs but has got no job in Nigeria came to me sometimes last yr and told me he wants to travel out of Nigeria, i did try to persuade him not to as i know the grass is not green on the other side, He convinced me by saying due to the nature of my job if anything happens to me, then the family has no hope and i tell you that same day i was posted to special taskforce maiduguri for Boko Haram issues; and for real i thought about how life would be for them if i die and what would be the fate of my parents.
Well to the main issue he was able to secure a 6months tourist visa through one agent who assured him when he gets to the UK he would be able to change his status, this i never believed due to the nature of my profession but my brother was desperate and i just had to let him go, he left on september 7, 2011, on getting there he saw things were not easy the agent told him to pay about 8k pounds but when i saw the process he outlined i told him that would not work,mind you my bro said he was just going to spend 2weeks, i told him to come back but he told me he would struggle to survive since he has got no hope whatsoever in Nigeria. His visa expired in February 2012.
I was posted back to warri recently, and through a man i met i was able to secure a job for him in absentia, which is going to pay him well and they even said he would go for training in the UK b4 the end of this year, now he is an overstayer already cuz he has overstayed for about 4months, this would affect his chances of going back for training if he comes back home as an overstayer, He doesnt know what to do now he said he could get a travel certificate to come back! and that he could hide his passport and stamp it to the date he was meant to return when he gets to Nigeria Is that possible?.... JUST WISE,VIC JUSTICE AND ALL please am confused about the whole thing, how can he help the situation?? What is it like when you are leaving heathrow, do they check your visa and how long you have stayed

justwise: Your brother will only be banned for one yr from entry the UK if he goes back voluntarily, there is nothing to be afraid of at Heathrow airport.

phranco: Aviation experts from the
United States and the Accident
Investigations Bureau, AIB,
have suggested that impure
fuel could have caused the two
engines and throttles of the
crashed Dana Air plane to fail
mid-air.
This development followed
speculations on the cause of the
June 3 air disaster in Lagos,
killing about 160 people,
including the 153 passengers
and the crew members on board.
Our correspondents gathered
that the AIB and their American
counterparts who conducted
tests yesterday said that the two
engines and the throttles
systems operate independently
of each other and also support
each other and could not have
packed up at the same time in
the air.
They, however, explained that
this could happen “if the driving
component, which is the key
element in the movement of an
aircraft is distorted.”
Sources also quoted the experts
as claiming that the teams
conducted tests on samples from
two airplanes belonging to Dana
Air and detected that they were
bad. “The key components in an
airplane are the engines, the
throttle systems and the fuel.
“The fuel, which serves as its
propellant, needs to be clean and
free from any form of distortion.
“Through tests we conducted on
the Dana plane and two other
planes belonging to the airline,
we found out that they were bad
and not good for use in an
airplane,” a source close to the
teams said.
“Unfortunately, we don’t have
the facilities for the required
follow-up tests and analysis, so
we have to fly them abroad.
“This doesn’t take too long and
we should have the results over
the weekend,” an AIB official told
National Mirror yesterday.
Last Sunday, the management of
Dana Air confirmed that their
planes were fuelled by different
oil marketers.
The airline’s officials had earlier
said that remnants of a bird
were found in the engine of the
aircraft, a possibility of the crash
being caused by a bird strike.
President, Aviation Round Table,
Capt. Dele Ore, said that contami-
nated fuel could lead to an air
crash, but refused to comment
on the crash involving Dana Air.
Ore insisted that bad fuel could
lead to dual engine failure at the
same time.
He said: “We have said it over
and over again, the answer is
yes, but we are not saying it was
contaminated fuel that caused
the crash of the Dana aircraft.
“I was a pilot for so many years,
so I know what I’m saying. In
general principle, yes, it can
cause an accident and cause the
aircraft engine to flame out.
“If there is too much water in it,
it can cause the two engines to
pack up at the same time. But
that does not mean we should
say that was what caused the
current accident”.
Airlines’ regulator, the Nigerian
Civil Aviation Authority, NCAA, has
suspended the licence of Dana
Air, pending the outcome of
investigations into the crash.
Meanwhile, families of the air
crash victims may have agreed to
wait for another four weeks for
the results of the DNA tests on
their relations to be released
before claiming the corpses of
their family members.
This is reflected in the unusual
quiet noticed at the Lekan
Ogunsola Memorial House, Lagos
State University Teaching Hos-
pital, LASUTH, mortuary, yesterday
as only one corpse was claimed
and eventually buried in his
family house at Lekki, a suburb of
Lagos.
National Mirror also learnt that
Dana Air management had
started visiting the family
members of those that died in
the ill-fated crash. Speaking to
National Mirror yesterday, one of
the bereaved relatives, Kelvin
Ifekawa, said: “We heard Dana
has been visiting and condoling
with the families, but we are yet
to see them maybe they will still
come to my house.”
He added that they were yet to
receive any information on
compensation from the airline.
Ifekawa said the family had
contemplated suing the
government, but changed their
mind, just like other families,
after the explanation about the
DNA process by the government.
Meanwhile, police are still
keeping a 24-hour surveillance at
the mortuary after Tuesday’s
incident.
It will be recalled that an angry
relative had attacked officials of
the morgue with a cutlass but
the situation was arrested by the
quick intervention of the Rapid
Response Squad, RRS, team.
So far, nine bodies have been
released, although 19 of the 43
identifiable bodies are ready to
be claimed as their families are
yet to turn up.
There have been controversies
over the collection of the crash
victims’ corpses. Officials of the
morgue had declined releasing
corpses to any of the family
members, identified bodies
inclusive, on the grounds that all
corpses must undergo DNA test.
But as at Tuesday, eight corpses
which identities they had refused
to disclose had been released.
The state government on Sunday
suggested giving mass burial to
the victims, which the families
rejected.

bolame: @ vicjustice why are you acting like a confused someone or is something wrong with your foolish brain? ... and you are saying someone else is accurate

bolame: @ vicjustice don't start a wahala you wll not be able to end n pls i don't need your advise keep it to yourself

shooqueen: I have conflicting advice on this one as a solicitor friend said "to join family permit" (not a visa) should only take about 2 weeks to get whereas I spoke to an someone in the Irish embassy in Abuja who said it would take 8 weeks. Are you sure this will take 6 months if so we may as well put in a new application.

shooqueen: I have secured a job and place to live in Ireland and have given notice at work.I am just booking my flight to Dublin to arrange my PPS. I know this all sounds a bit rushed but I just want to be back with my husband. If life were fair we would already be back together. I will do anything it takes to be with my husband.

3sky: my greetings to everyone in the house. please can any one give an answer to this:
does UK tourist visa has age limitation? response will highly be appreciated

muumuu: tthe agent is saying something can be done that the account is genuine that we can git an immigration lawyer to prove.just wanna oknow if there is anything tha can done to overturn d verdict ............

muumuu: ER APPLICATION WAS REFUSE BECAUSE ACCORDING TO THEM THE ACCOUNT SHE SUBMITTED WAS FAKE...AN AGENT ARRANGED THE WHOLE THING FOR HER SO SHE WAS UNAWARE OF ANY FRAUD....SHE APPLIED TO COME AS A VISITOR WHILE HER UNCLE WAS THE SPONSOR,UNKNWINGLY TO HER THE AGENT ONLY FORMULATED AN ACCOUNT WITH THE NAME OF SOMEONE ELSE AS HER UNCLE...PLZ,CAN WE APPEAL AND WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT SHE WILL B GIVEN NEXTIME SHE APPLIED
?THANKS

shooqueen: Refused Entry To UK. Trying For "To Join Family" In Ireland

I have re-posted this here as I can't find where to post for Ireland.

My husband was refused a UK visa one of the reasons was they have his biometric fingerprints mixed up with that of someone else, we are in the process of trying to legally sort that issue out. Putting in an appeal will take in excess of 8 months according to solicitors advice. A time we are not prepared to wait to be together so I will be exercising my EU treaty rights in Ireland , my husband can join me, after 6 months we can then do the same thing in the UK.

shooqueen: Question1. Could anyone tell me what my husband will have to take to the Irish embassy for proof he has the right to join me?

shooqueen: Question2. How long will the process take once the application is submitted?

shooqueen: Question3. Are there grounds that he could be refused other than they do not believe we are in a subsisting relationship?

shooqueen: Question4. Is there anyone here that has made the move to Ireland how have you found the job market? IT sector.