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I am hoping this wouldn't be successful.

Too many lives are lost already, it would be a shame if all that sacrifice amounts to nothing and the tyrant is allowed on!

What is this one yammering about? That somebody is a politician or political office holder does not mean he necessarily understands the fundamentals or even the import of statecraft and/or social engineering, or his place in his nations political evolution.

Most of those folks employ loads of ''advisers'' who are grounded in fields ranging from law to international relations etc, and are really there for their decision making strengths as opposed to expertise in social relations.

I knew you would soon be back to make another dumpty statement.

Yes, dummy, they employ loads of advisers grounded in several other fields, which is to say an individual alone dose not require formal training in Political Science or Development economics to become a super politician. In our Nigerian model, Jonathan is the Politician, Sanusi and Co are academics, who provide advise based on their expertise.


Politicians hire Academics--- you don't need to be an academic to become a politician, . .Kapeeish?

PEOPLE ALWAYS WILL TAKE A STAND ON ISSUES no matter how ''complicated'' and WHETHER OR NOT THEY ARE ''EXPERTS'' AT IT.

You sound extremely stuppid, backward and ignorant when you tell people to not ''question the wisdom of ''professor ABC whom must know what they are doing''.

''Pray tell'' to use your faggy term, What bush school did you attend to get you thinking like that?

You claim to live in London, yet you still think like a village goat.

Why do we have millions of ordinary folks in the anti-nuclear lobby? Are they all silly for not listening to the thousands of paid-up professors who say nuclear power is just fine?

Or is this an insult you reserve only for NIGERIAN dissenters like me?

Just like politicians will always arise who have no training in sociology, and hold no particular political or economic ideology. That is why we have millions of ordinary people in the anti-nuclear movement, millions in the climate change crowd, the 9/11 Truthers, and other ranges of interest, most of whose followers aren't professors in the field covered by their social activism.

That's never gonna change.

Vintage!

Yes people would always take a stand on issues, but it takes a certain level of bigotry to make absolute assertions such as "Japan is St[i]u[/i]pid and Greedy to Build Nuclear Reactors". . .Something ought to have registered in your small empty skull that the Japanese government would most likely must have considered the possibilities of occurrence of a disaster and would have put all measures in place to ensure saftey of its citizen in the likely events of such. The fact that the nuclear reactors shut down automatically are indicative of these.

Of course events such as this would provide valuable lessons on how to build a safer plant for the future, and unlike irrational brash thinkers such a yourself, this is why folks in Japan continue to advance in science and technology. They learn from mistakes and build on it, not abandon it entirely because some dunderhead thinks it's Stupiid and greedy.

I bet if you lived in the early 19th century, you probably must have thought men travelling to space was a St[i]u[/i]pid and greedy idea as well.

what a muppet!

fstranger3:
Exactly what I was trying to tell her, but her stupidity (probably due to her Nigerian education, and the fact that, unlike most of us that studied the sciences, she studied some efulefu course in college that made her dumber than she was before she started) would not allow her digest my message.  She is a freaking she goat, I tell ya

To be honest, how the dude could be so d[i]a[/i]ft beggars belief.

Rossike the forum e-diot who probably had problems passing Jamb, compares his/her intelligence with those of Hideki Yukawa, Leo Esaki, Masatoshi Koshiba, Yoichiro Nambu etc, all nobel laureate holders for amazing contributions to nuclear physics. . .haven't heard or seen anything more ridiculous!

Mere words signifying nothing.  Politics are no more ''observable in real time'' than the sciences. As a trained economist and social scientist I can tell you for free that 4/5ths of your political ''observations'' are illusory, and largely unrelated to what goes on ''behind the scenes''. The more you look the less you see. You DO need training to understand even the basic elements of any political economy.

Just because you find it easy to come in here and thunder ''the problem of Nigeria is corruption, laziness, ineptititude'' etc etc doesn't mean you're not an ignoramus filling the place with hot fart

My friend, stop blowing hot air down my árse, economics and politics are two separable elements, and while the former is largely based on theories and applications thereof, the latter is completely observable in real time, especially in a system of government that is as infantile as what obtains in Nigeria.    Any smart decision maker has well enough capabilities to turn out to be a successful politician, running the economy of the state, however is an entirely different subject, that's why Politicians like Jonathan employ people like Aganga and Sanusi

Jonathan is a zoologist. . .Atiku studied studied Hygiene,  . . Obasanjo is a farmer. . . . Fashola is a lawyer. . .David Mark is an Engineer. . none of them with a formal political science training and most probably they all advanced into politics with experience gained from observation and interaction with people.  Again Rossike, your logic = FAILED!

You don't just sit your árse down and read wikipedia articles on fields such as nuclear energy to become an expert.  Questioning the wisdom of those referenced by wikipedia itself is mere foolery!

^^

Fresh Biscuits you mean?

ROSSIKE:
violent said:

Ratface!

You come here everyday to lambast ''our leaders'' as thieves and wasters. Can we see your qualifications? Are you a trained solicitor? A judge perhaps? An intelligence officer? No? So what gives a nobody like you the effrontery to come in here and make pronouncements on things for which you are not a qualified expert?

If everyone needed to show a certificate to make a comment here, the forum would be blank! E-rat faces like you would be forced to shut their lips.

Again you failed dummy!

Politics, unlike nuclear and atomic physics is observable in real time. It doesn't require formal training to be an expert in Political issues.

ROSSIKE:
violent said:

Slaveboy alert!! 200 professors said nuclear plants in earthquake zones are ok. Therefore anyone one who questions them must be mad!! This is an argument borne of your BUSH upbringing.

Scumbag!

You stated "Japan was silly and Greedy to Build Nuclear Reactors". . .one would think you must be an expert in nuclear physics to even make such assertions. . .No! far from it, you are actually just an attention seeking troll!. .

And yes, you must be mad to question the combined intellects of hundreds of nuclear professors, Geologists and experts in disaster management when you know absolutely nothing on these fields.

It's easy in retrospect for every TIM, TAM and TOMMY to come out now and say balderdash after the unfortunate event, what your fickle mind is however too small to grasp is that those dude conducted their homeworks before even laying the first rock.

ROSSIKE:
Aigbofa said:

I will draw up a program for gradual de-nuclearization of the country. Pour funds into research into renewable energy. A road map of anything up to 50 years to create a nuclear free Japan would be my top priority.

Dummy, you were probably assuming that Japan is not putting her funds into renewable energy.  Pray tell, how many industries do you plan to sustain with renewable energy source?  stop thinking with your [i]a[/i]rse, you [i]a[/i]rsehole.  Renewable energy is difficult to match demands, and environmental/climate change affects the feasibility of solar and wind power.  it is also extremely costly both in terms of construction and on the environment. solar and wind power utilize large swathes of real estate, causing a significant opportunity cost for land development.

Nuclear energy remains the largest baseline energy output per unit of any available electrical energy source.

Aigbofa:
Rossike,

Assuming you are the new Japanese minister for energy, what would you do from now on. Forget about the insults now, let's hear your ideas.

Ideas?  The dude is a f[i]u[/i]cking ret[i]a[/i]rd!

It's st.upid how an individual with an IQ figure just below 10 attempts to question the Judgement of over 200 renowned nuclear experts who in all probabilities conducted due diligence, and probably took to account possibilities of a massive disaster before embarking on a nuclear project.  

Rossike does not even know Jack on nuclear physics, his knowledge of such topics are most likely limited to Wikipedia articles.  with this, he attempts to rubbish the wisdom of nuclear professors and scientists who have spent years in Research and Academia, what a dolt!

Does ROSSIKE actually ever have any sensible argument to put up that is totally devoid of the words SLAVES and WHITES and shyt?

The dude's legendary as the forum e-diot is fast spreading like a Japanese tsunami.  It becomes absolutely dumb to think everyone that doesn't share his fickle narrow minded racially bigoted opinion is either a SLAVE or worshipping some WHITE gods.

For the sake of everything sane, could someone please slap some common sense into this dude's head?  I hurts me to think someone could be so full of filth and total idiocy.

^^

I'm giving it a rest, i suggest you do too, you really should listen to country music by the Highwaymen, darn those guys are immortals

I KNEW IT! I WAS JUST WAITING FOR YOU TO BITE THAT BAIT.  The Archduke was a ''VIP'', so his killing was a ''real reason to go to war''.

Certainly not for a non-descript Igbo trader nobody knows!

Now if it had been the Ooni of Ife, or the Emir of Kano or Sultan of Sokoto who got set ablaze in Gabon, THEN it would make more sense to threaten conflict, yes

Can anyone not see this dude is a misguided, London-based, red wine drinking elitist?

You knew nothing dude! and Yes, in such case it's an absolute, good enough reason to go to war.

There is no point painting the "all animals are equal" picture here, every person with an IQ of 20 or less knows such doesn't exist.  

North Korea would most likely not go to war with South Korea if an average citizen was shot or killed by south korean assassins, yes it's likely to cause lots of tensions, but definitely not a full scale war.

If however, Kim II- Sung's first born was murdered by South Korean assasins, we are likely to experience the next world war.  There are certain acts or instances known to be provocative by all standards, the murder of a royality or close relations of a royality is one of such.

If Prince William gets stabbed in the chest on a visit to Afghanistan, the British government might not mind putting the lives of 10,000 british soldiers at stake just to seek revenge, it's an act of war!

Another factor that should always be considered when analysing such scenarios will be the existing relationship between both countries
Again, this shouldn't require much common sense!

Alj Uche:
violent and rossike

come on guys, why the insult on each other

He started it, blame him, I am the victim here

Glad you're entertained, If you got a little educated as well it would be a bonus.

The entertaining part of it was good enough, it's a secret hubby of mine to read the contents of the minds of an e-diot, nothing makes a super laugh especially when you are drinking red wine and listening to cool jams from the Highwaymen.

I said THREATEN military action. Yes I stand by it.

Again, i insist that threats of military action is totally unjustifiable, especially given that Nigeria and Gabon have both enjoyed friendly relations in time memorial.  Unlike the Austro-Hungarian attacks of Serbia which you ignorantly quoted and hoped will make you look a bit intelligent, what you forgot to metion however was that both countries had a sour history from time immemorial given Austro-Hungarian government's objective of obtaining permanent possesion of Serbia, infact this was led to the 1908-1909 crises by both government.  Additionally the Archduke Franz Ferdinand is a Royal Prince and an heir to the throne, his death was an opportunity seen by the Austro-Hungarian government to attack Serbia.

I would imagine this is something that Israel wouldn't mind replaying all over again, the recent murder of an Israeli family and Israel declaration of the building of 400 new settlement across Palestine land is totally indicative of this.

Again, your argument is totally flawed and lacks objective reasoning, it really doesn't require so much common sense to grasp some basic issues.

Erm yes in wars, thousands of lives are normally lost, knucklehead.  But what tends to happen is that word goes round quickly. Mess with Nigerians and you're asking for trouble.

If going by your proposition, Nigeria threaten military action against each and every country where its citizens experienced torture from the Police, how many wars would we be fighting by 2015?  you see?  the idea is completely dumb!

YAAAAWWN. SHOW US THE CASE, PLUS EVIDENCE. YOU BET THERE IS NOT SILENCE ON ANY SUCH MATTER BUT IT IS BEING PURSUED. I LIVE IN LAGOS. I DO NOT SEE POLICE ''SETTING CITIZENS ABLAZE''.  YOU SEE THEM FROM YOUR COUNCIL FLAT IN LONDON.

Are you bleeping kidding?  have you ever been to a Police Station in Nigeria to witness interrogation techniques?  do you actually presume the Police in Nigeria use lie detectors and stuff?

@Rossike

Dummy!

Rantings of an ídiot, quite entertaining i must confess.

Let me do a quick summary of the thread.

**** A Nigerian citizen gets tortured by the Police in Gabon

***Rossike the forum ídiot suggests that the singular action is a strong enough reason for his Mighty country to wage war on little Gabon. . .or at least frighten Gabon with possibilities of military engagements.

*** a smart forumite points out how dumb this idea is given that wars, as opposed to what the forum ídiot thinks aren't XBOX games, thousands of real lives are lost in the process and more importantly, Gabon does not constitute a security risks to Nigeria's sovereignty, diplomatic measures are more appropriate at resolving such issues.

***The forum ídiot, flared up in green and red rage, screaming "SLAVES blah blah blah, if American can invade Iraq, why can't we invade Gabon"

Seriously?  do people get any dumber?

The police in Nigeria kill and torture hundreds of Nigerians on a regular basis, and i don't see you here vomiting trash, a police officer in Gabon went out of line and you advocate for a full scale war. . .seriously?  are there people really this dáft?

and no, I don't support America/British invasion of Iraq, i strongly believe it was selfish and and ill advised, now, morón, what's your next line of defense?

looks like just a courtesy welcome to me.

OLODO SLAVE, Unlike you, I'm not interested in  ''where that has ever happened'' because unlike you, I'm not a SLAVE to other climes. Does an American president ask ''where has it ever happened'' before threatening military action on some hapless country? Nope. But because you have an inferiority complex, you look around to see if a white man has done it first. If so, then it's ok. If not, then it's ''how dare you?? Massa has never done this! How could you''

YOU are an unthinking, self-loathing SLAVE, which is why you need ''permission'' from a ''WHITE COUNTRY'' to know what to say or do in ANY situation. 

I REPEAT, until Nigeria THREATENS an African country with MILITARY ACTION in cases of gross mistreatment of her citizens, she will continue to suffer the indignity of her citizens being mistreated on the African continent by nations that have no business mistreating Nigerians.

If you have a problem with that stance, GO EAT DUST, or better still, go stuff your mouth full with rotten hamburgers in London as is your habit, and stay the hell out of this.

Since you're a thoughtless SLAVE, we know it makes infinitely more sense to you for an America or a Britain (where you live) to go in and bombard  an Iraq, killing over a million innocent souls, over a pack of lies and greed for oil, than for a Nigeria to threaten military action to end the ''mere'' victimization of her innocent citizens on the continent.

The former makes all the sense in the world to you, while the latter makes absolutely no sense, because you are a SLAAAAAAAVE with a severely dysfunctional medulla oblangata

You scumbag!  I initially thought you were just bit stúpid, now i realize you are a fúcking idíot!

I pointed out how terribly flawed your sense of Judgement and decisions were, and the first thing that came out of your mind was SLAVES and WHITES. . .you, dunderhead, are so full of fart!

I mentioned that it had never been heard of for a country to threaten war just because her citizen experienced brutal Police torture from the hands of a foreign government,  it's just a plain dumb reaction, full stop!, the appropriate channels are to explore diplomatic channels and on the worse case scenario, severe economic relations with the said country.

I ask you again, would Nigeria threaten military action if it had been China in this case?  obviously you were either too blind to see the question or just plain gob-smacked by how dumb it made you sound.  You instead chose to hide under racial cloaks spitting shyt about "American President", "London", and "Hamburger". . .what kind of person are you?  a mammal without a brain?

This is no place to argue out American/British invasion of Iraq you fággot, such topic isn't the one being discussed, what is being discussed here is how dumb your idea of sending military jets to drop bombs in Gabon simply because a police officer tortured a Nigerian citizen, only a dáft person thinks like that.  You must think this is an Xbox game where you could press a few buttons to destroy a territory, I've got news for you móron, it's not!

Says the brainless oaf sitting and chopping hamburger in a country that made its very wealth through the storming of hapless countries. OLODO. YOUR HEAD IS THICKER THAN CONCRETE.  Must be all those fat burgers you stuff your belly with in London.

I'd bet my life my dog is smarter than you, at least it aint full of shyt meanwhile, you are.  The fact that my ID says United Kingdom has suddenly narrowed your fickle mind to think my life is all based in the UK.  Pathetic!. . .If you actually make your supposed decisions this way, i wonder if you ever said or done anything that made an iota of sense in your life. . . .definitely a mammal without a brain!

OLODO self hater, we don't believe you! AT LEAST I DON'T. SO BUGGER OFF.

Repeat after me, "I, Rossike, am an idíot". . .say that seven more times.

here is a link, there you can download a 76 page report compiled by a Nigerian {before your racially biased fickle low esteem start screaming "white man's report"} which includes interviews by over 50 victims of police torture in Nigeria.

http://www.hrw.org/en/node/11630/section/7

You, my friend, are a certified rétard, your IQ is well below mine, and you have absolutely no intellectual grounds to even stand side by side with me in an argument, i know that because you say something like this

A can of beans has more intellect than you

definitely not an intelligent thing to say, only an ídiot is excused to make such ill-thought dumb rémarks

You've shown great ignorance and stuppidity by claiming that Nigerians allegedly ''suffering worse from their own police'' IN ANY WAY precludes the federal govt from demanding, ON THREAT OF WAR, that its citizens are not tortured and burned by Gabonese police, AS WELL AS demanding MAXIMUM compensation for the victim and his family. (Oh, and please do show us evidence of Nigerian police getting away with setting innocent citizens ablaze, or shut your nasty trap)

You're no doubt a mental SLAVE to white governments. You do realise the number of Americans brutalized by US police does not FOR ONE SECOND hinder the USA in any demands that ITS citizens be fairly treated by foreign nations. (No doubt you'll have a stream of excuses to justify THEIR position, being a mental slave to whites and a black self hater.)

What an ídiot!, if you had any  pair of brain cells to rub together, then surely you should have realized what a joke you are by now.  In your own logic, every government should threaten a war when it's citizen is subjected to police brutality by foreign governments.  I am yet to hear of something more stúpid, pray tell, in history where that has ever happened,  . .You fággot keep thinking what you watch in movies are applicable in the real life.   I've got news for you, dumbito, we the smart ones know that people don't just threaten to send in F22 bombers to a sovereign country, there are several channels of diplomacy to be expended, only brash and absolute dullards think war is a solution to every problem including an itch!

and NO, I am not precluding that the federal government ought to fold it's arm and do nothing, i however insist that threatening war with a friendly country because elements within its Police force subjected a citizen from you country to torture is the most insané idea ever.  Would Nigeria threaten war if it was Russia or Israel in place of Gabon?  yeah, i guess you now see what a dólt you are!

The only inferior Nigerian around here is YOU.

Another brash statement that shows lack of common sense.  I bet you type faster than you think!

Why don't you go threaten David Cameron with violence and bloodshed and see if you don't get picked up in an  hour by the anti-terrorist unit of the Metropolitan police. OLODO self-hater.
Someone needs to pick up a rat like you and beat you senseless and toss you into the sea. Afterall, by your logic, you're only a Nigerian and therefore deserve it. ANIMAL.

OMG , if you could at least point out to someone who is dumber than you on this forum, i promise you i'd leave this forum for good.

Cases of Police brutality are never new thing to Nigerians, I once had a neighbor about 2 years ago who had three of his finger nails pulled by pliers by officers of the Nigerian Police on suspicion of him being a "Yahoo boy", suffice to say that's just one of the many thousands of such cases which abound in Nigeria on a daily basis.

Shitty bags like you ought to just keep mum where intellectuals argue, you have zero sense of logical reasoning and are absolutely incapable of making rational sound judgments.  On observation of many of your previous posts on this forum, i have come to the unfortunate conclusion that you are most likely a riff raff whose lack of intelligence and the need for same, results in an endless array of morónic posts on nairaland.

Am Alone:
This is what he said that triggered those words right out from my PC
It doesn't counts, does it??

I agree he went out of line with those statements, and I feel it was probably due to the intimidating pressure and criticism he constantly had to deal with.  I would likely say something along those lines if not worse, if someone kept rubbing it in my face that my project was not up to taste and by all measures substandard, even if it was, i would have appreciated a more diplomatic gesture, that would seek to encourage while at the same time pointing out fault, that's the only way I could improve. 

We all know shelling out money is not exactly an easy thing to do, and we all have different means of obtaining funds for our projects.  In a case where someone expends his limited resources, including money and time spent supervising on a project of his dreams, and also decides to inform others about his progress, possibly to win encouragement and appraisals, when such persons encounter intimidating criticisms, he's bound to overreact.

That said, it still does not excuse his language and choice of statements, I feel it's totally uncalled for to have called you an illiterate, but I am hoping you'd look beyond this and continue the good work you are doing here!. . .the rest of us have got loads to learn from you

Am Alone:
@ Violet,

According to you last post. The thread has being very informative
but if you notice, it is because of the many contribution of many others!!!
The poster has done just a few work! So when you say very informative
I believe you must have counted brabus post, my post and some other people's post
A tree does not makes a forest!!!

I agree with you, your posts were quite brilliant and very informative, it also provides a good experience to lean on for many others about to embark on the similar projects. That said, It will be better and more enjoyable if you could tone down a bit on your critical statements on others project, it wouldn't do anyone much good if this nice thread that could be saved for future reference is reeled with arguments and name callings.

There are other encouraging ways you could provide valuable advise without making the original Poster feel bad about himself, or feel intimidated, we are all here to lean on each others knowledge and experience.

This thread has been very informative from the get go, i would however suggest that contributors keep it that way, that's the only way others could gain much more from it. I also praise the patience of the Poster at enduring several cynical attempts by others to cause arguments and derail the thread

@Am Alone

The Poster made it clear from the beginning that he planned to detail the costs incurred on HIS own project.  His objective was not to compete with others on the quality of materials or how much is going to individual projects, and from all indications, he has only been able to cut his coat according to his cloth, why should that even be wrong?

Some spend over 300 million building their houses, others keep it as low as 5 million, to each his own!  After all, my great grandparents built their first homes with mud bricks, and the stuff is still standing as i type.

This is the first two lines of the thread

Hello guys, I will be starting my house today and wants to use this thread to track all my expenses. I dont know how much it will cost for the entire house but I will try to update this thread as often as time allow me. I want to know the total cost of building my house and get suggestions, advice from other experienced people.

ROSSIKE:
This is the sort of thing that, if I was anywhere near the corridors of power in Nigeria, I would be pushing for a thorough explanation from the Gabonese authorities, and MAXIMUM compensation to the victim, as well as severe punishment for the culprits ON THREAT OF WAR.

These wretched, inferiorized retards could never do this to a French man or a German.

Nigeria MUST let these little village countries know they cannot treat Nigerians with impunity.

Such a brash and immature approach, shows you know absolutely nothing about International law, politics and diplomacy.  You don't threaten war just because your citizens suffered police brutality from a foreign government.   It would have even been less ridiculous should it be the case that Nigerians don't suffer worse from their own Police on a daily basis.

More than 80 percent of Nigerians are "inferior Nigerians" within Nigeria, especially considering the cases of the Nigerian Justice System, or the Police affairs of the state, how much more in a foreign country?  Even the President harasses Nigerians on a daily basis using the office of the State Security Service, why should we deserve any better from a foreign government?

52,090

say what?

yeah, you got it right, I am the bad guy!

The Arab League on Saturday called on the United Nations Security Council to enforce a "no-fly zone" over Libyan airspace, marking a decisive diplomatic victory for rebel forces opposed to Moammar Gadhafi, the Libyan ruler.

The announcement will bolster calls by some European leaders to intervene in the violent confrontation between rebels and Col. Gadhafi's military.

The U.S. and the European Union had deferred to the 22-member league of Arab nations to determine whether outside military forces should intervene.

The air superiority of forces loyal to Col. Gadhafi has helped tip the balance of power against the antigovernment uprising based in the eastern part of the country. On Saturday, government forces tightened their grip on the coastal road linking government-held territory to the rebel-controlled east, the Associated Press reported.

Col. Gadhafi's forces all but routed rebels in the coastal oil-refining city of Ras Lanuf earlier this week and completed their assault on Zawiya, a rebel stronghold west of Tripoli, Libya's capital.

Deliberations will now go to the U.N. Security Council, where permanent members China and Russia are thought to oppose the proposed no-fly zone.

Abdel Hafeez Goga, the deputy head of the Benghazi-based provisional rebel government, the Transitional National Council, praised the Arab League decision.

"We welcome and salute their decision and look at it as a step forward to the imposition of no-fly-zone imposition," he told a news conference in Benghazi.

A no-fly zone would ground Libya's air forces, but the practical considerations around the proposal remain unclear. One proposal would enjoin forces from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization to gun down any airplanes flying over Libyan airspace. In a meeting Thursday, NATO leaders said such a plan would first require U.N. approval.

U.S. President Barack Obama has hesitated on whether to take military action in Libya, even as Britain and France have pushed for intervention.

The Arab League's move appeared to have been led by Gulf Arab nations, which announced their support for a U.N.-enforced no-fly zone on Monday.

The six-nation Gulf Cooperation Council announced Friday that Mr. Gadhafi's government was illegitimate and that the oil-rich Gulf monarchies would "initiate contacts" with Libyan rebels instead.

The Arab League suspended Libya's membership on Feb. 22.

Omani Foreign Minister Yusuf bin Alawi bin Abdullah said on Saturday that "U.N. intervention should be a preventative procedure and end when the Libyan crisis ends." But, he added, "There is consensus about protecting the Libyan people from bombing by the Libyan air force."

Catherine Ashton, the EU's high representative for foreign affairs and security policy, said she would travel to Cairo on Sunday to meet with the Arab League's outgoing secretary-general, Amr Moussa, to arrive at a "collaborative approach" for dealing with the North African country.

Meanwhile, Rashid Khalikov, the U.N. humanitarian coordinator for Libya, arrived in Tripoli on Saturday to discuss with government officials access for humanitarian workers and aid delivery to the country's conflict areas, according to a U.N. statement.

"The international aid community has expressed concerns over the very limited access to various areas in Libya including those places where heavy fighting is taking place," it said.

In a statement issued Friday, the EU said Col. Gadhafi's regime had "lost all legitimacy and is no longer an interlocutor for the EU."

In place of Col. Gadhafi's regime, the EU said it "welcomes and encourages" the Transitional National Council as Libya's "political interlocutor," according to the statement released Friday. The National Council is a union of rebel leaders who oppose Col. Gadhafi's 41-year rule.

Col. Gadhafi's son, Seif al-Islam, said in a speech in Tripoli on Thursday that the regime didn't care about Arab states or the Arab League.

The Arab League said it will also initiate "cooperation and communication" with the Transitional National Council "against the crimes committed by the Libyan authorities," according to a statement released by the League following its Saturday meeting. The statement stopped short of recognizing the rebels as the sole legitimate government of the Libyan people.

Mr. Goga of the Transitional National Council also leveled accusations against Arab League member state Syria, alleging Damascus "conspired against the Libyan people" by sending Col. Gadhafi a ship filled with weapons. He also said Syrian pilots had been among those piloting planes shot down by rebel fighters, but said he couldn't say for sure whether the pilots had been sent by the Syrian government or were acting on their own as mercenaries.

But the rebel leadership also appeared increasingly disconnected from developments on the battlefield. Mr. Goga denied Mr. Gadhafi's forces had taken control of Ras Lanuf, even as government officials took journalists on a tour of the battle-scarred oil city a day after rebel columns fled the city's outskirts amid heavy bombardment by fighter jets and artillery.

Mr. Goga pledged rebel fighters would retake lost ground easily once the international community imposes a no-fly zone. He also said the rebels expected to receive new shipments of weapons but said he could provide no further details on where they were coming from.

"We are capable of controlling all of Libya, but only after the no-fly zone is imposed," he said. "We are arming up and we will confront force with force. We are in the process of negotiating weapons deals and on the verge of getting new weapons."

Meanwhile, an al-Jazeera cameraman was killed Saturday in what the station described as an "armed ambush" on an al-Jazeera crew on the outskirts of Benghazi, the station said.

Al-Jazeera identified the slain cameraman as Ali Hassan al-Jaber, a Qatari citizen. A correspondent for the station was also wounded in the attack. Col. Gadhafi's propaganda has singled out al-Jazeera with frequent scathing attacks on its coverage of Libya.

Mr. al-Jaber's death was the first death of a journalist since the Libyan uprising began Feb. 15.

Thousands of residents rallied outside the courthouse in central Benghazi on Saturday night to voice their support for the station after the attack.

"With our blood, with our souls, we sacrifice for you al-Jazeera," protesters chanted, a knock off of a common chant throughout the Arab world usually reserved for Arab leaders. They hoisted flags for Qatar, the country where Al Jazeera is based.

The attack comes amid growing jitters in eastern Libya over recent advances by government forces on the front lines, about 180 miles west of Benghazi. Government forces have reportedly started toward Brega, another oil-refinery town along the coastal road east of Ras Lanuf.

Unconfirmed rumors have swirled in recent days that pro-Gadhafi agents have infiltrated Benghazi in growing numbers.

Rebel forces, composed mostly of untrained and lightly armed volunteers, appear to be rapidly unraveling in the face of the government offensive, which has included heavy bombardments by air strikes, artillery shells and surface-to-surface rockets.

Omar Hariri, who was tapped by the the Transitional National Council to oversee military affairs for the rebels, said the rebel fighting force was still in tact and able to fight.

"We will fight, and we are powerful," Mr. Hariri told a news conference. "We know how to fight and we know how to win."

He said the rebel fighters were prepared to stop the government's advance outside of Brega and were capable of defending Benghazi.

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"Presidency, Umblella"

Wasn't he declaring war on OBJ few weeks back?

Looks as though someone chose the cowardly way out, i'd bet my last cents he wouldn't be apologizing should his faction have won at the appeal court.

The shameful part of the entire fiasco is that EFCC will likely withdraw all allegations against him, what a joke! a big joke!

it's funny how Beaf, Time2think and other cohorts always manage to have sight problems when topics like this are found trending on the politics home page, . . .to show the extent of how subjective these robots thoughts and motives are, i would bet my last penny that they would have made the worst form of noise should it have been Buhari or Ribadu opting out of a Presidential Debate.

Yep!

AU is a bull dog that lacks that ability to bark and bite.  It's powers of enforcing its decision rests only on economic sanctions, and every smart áss knows that without the backing of a strong military voice, AU is just as good as zero!

Sagamite:
How about Pa Randle show some wisdom, and approach, that will entitle and afford him respect? 

Is that the place or occassion or purpose of the event for his personal vendetta?

Awon Agbaya ti won niwo. (Badly behaved older person)

**off topic***

You interpreted that wrongly, it actually means "worthless old fools"

but men, you've got some Yoruba paraphrases that i can only hear from my older uncle. Most people would have stopped at "Awon Agbaya". . you including "ti won niwo" makes you come across as someone with strong traditional ties.

Big B1:
Violent, I'm not Mr. Randle's supporter. My focus is only on comporting yourself as a governor correctly and addressing issues without displaying an area boy behavior.

I do not expect Fashola to meet with everybody. But if you listen very carefully to Randle's statement, a real politician would have identified this statement as a trap and would have immediately taken advantage of the statement by addressing it with style and class.

FYI: Fashola is currently trying to reach out to Mr.Randle to apologize.
Obviously he has realized that he did not handle the situation correctly. And I can not blame you folks for not getting it, I guess one has to be there to understand what Fashola has done incorrectly.

Style, class, respect, integrity, and common sense; all were missing during the debate.

What exactly do you term as "Area boy behavior"?

The governor said and i quote[i] "The first time you tried to see me was on a criminial court case which you were involved in, but the Attorney General of the state was already handling that situation, the second time you tried to see me was regarding your house that was built on a drainage, and there's simply no point in you seeing me, all we are asking is that you should go and do the right thing''[/i]

Pa Randle said in the end  "Awon omo ti o leko" meaning[i] "kids without proper upbringing"[/i]

Pray tell, which of the two statements comes across more like an "area boy behavior"?. . .how do you know Fashola is now trying to apologize to Pa Randle, someone told you so? or Fashola mentioned it?

I would suspect you are probably running on high emotions and probably judged the governor on the African mentality of "the younger ones have to respect the older ones", how about Pa Randle show some respect too?

  I don't see anyone nailing Randle to the cross for saying the governor lacked proper upbringing, shouldn't the governor be demanding an apology too?

Big B1:
I witnessed the debate and saw what happened.
As much as I honestly admire Fashola, my conclusion after I saw what went down during the debate is: Fashola is another uncivilized stu pid @@s. His comment was completely uncalled for. In fact, any smart politician would have taken advantage of Mr.Randle's statement. Of course, the F00lish, but polished area boy (Fashola) lost his cool and systematically called Mr.Randle a criminal. (Pls folks,take a time out and get to know this quiet, well established and the root of lagos called the Randle's family). They are not thieves like other leaders in the country.

The drama started when Randle stated that he has been trying to reach Fashola to connect the wife (90yrs old) the first mayor of Lagos state to him for the past few months; in fact, the poor old woman has already tried for over a year to reach this same Fashola. He (randle) concluded that if folks like himself and the wife of the first mayor of Lagos state can not reach Gov Fashola, what hope do common Lagosians have?

Looking at the age of the Old lady' age of Mr.Randle and the positions of both parties, all Fashola should have said was: I did not know that you have been trying to reach me; I'm sorry. As we all know, it is election time and the end of my 1st term. I have been extremely busy lately, but I will make it my personal business to reach out to Chief Mrs XYZ (the wife of the first mayor of Lagos state). I'm very sorry.

But the area boy came out swinging like he lost his mind.

I wasn't impressed by his action at all. I hope he recognizes his mistake and fix it right away.

Dude, there are more than 17 million people in Lagos State, and if given the opportunity, more than half would relish a meeting with the governor. Do you suppose Fashola has no other responsibility than to meet with every attention seeking Tim, Tam and Tom Tom?