₦airaland Forum

Funny yet interesting thread.

QuitNotice:
Nigerians are the problem of Nigeria. Those imbeciles taking advantage of the disadvantaged will now get up one day and say 'government is our problem'. Oya, make Buhari fight corruption, dey say no. I taya for dis kain kontry...

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No sir.

There is a time and a place for general condemnation of Nigerians as a people. This is not one of those cases.

Lay the blame for this squarely where it belongs: your military.

Remember Odi? Remember Zaki Biam? Remember the countless cases before them? Was it civilians who committed those abominations - the large scale rape of defenceless women? It was not. It was your army.

The truth is bitter.

reantv:
Forced under what condition ? Let us always say things as they are, never trade your Happiness for anything...

Choosing an investment or home location that has all features: Security, nearness to social amenities, city centers, comfort, serene environment and more? Choose right...See signature for more details...

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How do you mean sir?

somehow:
Did the bible not talk against pork and dog meat?

Is the bible not against prostitution?

Is prostitution legal in Nigeria?

The hotels were they sell these stuffs is also a haven of prostitution so what exactly are you guys who are suppose to be christians against?

Since we obviously no longer respect the bible or practise whats writen therein as christians, we shouls just close all churches since they no longer impact anything.

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Nice try.

Not every Nigerian is a Muslim or a Christian.

There are Nigerians who are neither Christian nor Muslim and who love pork and dog meat. There are also Nigerians who are neither Christian nor Muslim and who also indulge in a beer or two after a hard day's work (and they have done no wrong provided their BAC limits are less than 0.05% and provided they do not engage in drunk and/or disorderly behaviour.) Those state laws which prohibit consumption of pork, alcohol and dog meat are laws designed to satisfy religious interest groups and which should affect only the adherents of a faith and not the rest of us who do not belong to that faith.




Note that I did not say anything about prostitution which is forbidden under Nigerian law.

somehow:
Most against this move are Christians o judging by their comments and username, yet the bible is also against all the reasons the govt gave.

Then i begin to wonder, How many Christians do we truly have in Nigeria?

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You don't know this for a fact. All you have to support your claim is anonymous user names and let's face it: anyone can say anything and claim to be anything online.

radautoworks:
Who's familiar with MOOG?

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Suspension parts - ball joints etc.?

Running through your data check sheets (the gauge or tyre maintenance section), you have your measurements in fahrenheit. You may want to consider changing that to celsius for your new market...

AutoElectNG:
Used the word "BOY" with a sense of excitement, admiration, and respect and in no way in an attempt to denigrate.

It continues to be a pleasure to read from you.

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Its all good.

I'm learning from you with each post

Do you have front stabilizer linkages for 2008 RAV 4 (1AZ FE) engine?

GAZZUZZ:
Uncle ancestor emabinu si omo yen

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U mu du bawun

Translation: I have forgiven him...

AutoElectNG:
I advocate correct viscosity and not synthetic.

I only advocate synthetics for those wanting long OCIs and a couple of other advantages.

You have done your homework boy

You have earned your stripes

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Exactly.

I run synthetics in my vehicle for precisely the reason you listed above - long OCIs and I run my vehicles for several years - sometimes till they die. It might not make sense for a vehicle user to run synthetics in a very high mileage vehicle with short OCIs - and if the owner intends to sell off the vehicle in a couple of years.

I try to do my homework . Its all part of being an educated consumer - there's always something new to learn each day and you can never know it all. I only wish I was still a boy with the energy of youth . I'll give you an idea of how long I've been around: I can still remember the coup speech announcing your current president as head of state during his first coming in the 80s...

The gentleman marketing US made Castrol on this thread gives a new meaning to the phrase "hard sell". . I like his style.

I committed the mortal sin of using Nigerian sold Castrol oil (the label stated it was EU manufactured but that was a whole new controversy on its own) and saying so publicly. Because of this I got into a long winded and completely unnecessary debate with another poster on another oil thread. In the rash of recent oil threads on NL, the major selling point of a number of US spec oils is that they are synthetic AND they also meet the viscosity requirements of most of the imported (new and used) cars sold in Nigeria today. But are these US oils really synthetic?

My limited research shows that US oil manufacturers are able to label their oils as synthetic only as a result of a court ruling arising from a trade dispute between Mobil and Castrol (Castrol again! ) and not because they developed these synthetic oils in a lab from scratch as the Europeans and the Japanese do. So are these US spec oils really special or they are mostly marketing hype?

While there may (and I must stress the argument may) be a strong argument that US spec oils go through stricter regulatory oversight than Nigerian manufactured/blended oils, it is Euro spec oils (as a group), Japanese oils and a few others that truly meet the definition of synthetic (with all the so called advantages accruing to the label).

What has never been fully clear to me is why over the years, no major oil company in Nigeria took advantage of the gap in the market for mineral oils with viscosities of 5W 20, 5W 30, 5W 40 etc. Surely they must have seen the trends? There are thousands of used cars imported from North America into Nigeria annually which require these viscosities and they do not necessarily require synthetic oil with the most recent API rating. A number of car owners in Nigeria who started purchasing synthetic oil a few years ago were boxed into buying Mobil 1 because it was the only locally available oil with the right viscosities - but you had to pay heavily for its synthetic qualities and its high API rating. The truth is that thousands of car owners in Nigeria today do not necessarily need synthetic oils with 'SN' API ratings for their vehicles. They'll do just fine with mineral oil, regularly changed.

tensazangetsu20:
Some of the oils being used by guys in those BMW and Benz forums I don't even see in Nigeria except mobil 1.

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I agree with your last sentence. In some forums I have seen threads about obscure specialty oils that are unfamiliar to even hardened motorheads. The interesting thing is that some of these 'unknown' oils are approved by major motor manufacturers. Some of the key German automakers have (or used to have) online lists of approved oils and some of these oils were made by small boutique manufacturers in all sorts of places around the globe - China etc. Believe it or not - some companies in Nigeria I had never heard of before are API approved licensees with valid licences.

What isn't clear to me is why German Adler (a lubricant supposedly made in Germany) hasn't shown up on any of the Benz, Audi, BMW etc. user forums I have visited. The name 'Adler' is quintessentially German and has some significance to German notions of identity and nationhood. Surely a lubricant company that has adopted this phrase as its brand should show up at least once on user forums for German automobiles ? Or was the company incorporated yesterday?

AutoElectNG:
Mobil 1
Shell Rotella
Valvoline

will most likely be on the list

I have used Mobil1 and Valvoline but I am yet to use Shell Rotella.

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Well known names there...

So far I have used Mobil for my vehicles - also used Castrol a couple of times. About to try out several other brands to see how they fare in my engines - very unscientific experiment but the results should be interesting.

tensazangetsu20:
It doesn't have to be made in Nigeria. My uncle drives a BMW and he uses German adler and the car has been fine for 10 years now.

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Interesting.

I did a google search on German Adler lubricants a while back but it doesn't seem to have a web presence. There is a company website with product range details etc. but zero mentions of the oil on BMW and Benz user forums . Or have I been looking in the wrong places?

radautoworks:
We have your oil and FYI, we tend not to use Castrol for BMW in the USA. It's the economy brand.

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Not quite sure I understand here.

Do you mean you use other oil brands (apart from Castrol) for BMW lube service in the US? If this is what you mean, could you give me names of these other brands?

strungcity:
Its a king cobra. rarely attacks humans. Hunts and feeds on other snakes.

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It isn't a king cobra. It looks like a forest cobra as other posters have pointed out.

King cobras are rarely melanistic. Fully grown king cobras are also much longer and larger than forest cobras. Specimens in the wild have been known to grow up to 5 metres long.

CosmeticChemist:
looks like a king cobra

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It is not a king cobra. It looks more like a forest cobra as others have said.

King cobras are not native to Africa. They are also far larger and longer (up to 5 metres!) than forest cobras.

SmartToyota:
This one would be quite difficult to know the issue since there are no trouble codes.

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Yes. Most mechanics gave up when they couldn't get any DTCs. Those who had no interest in DTCs wanted to do the trial and error thing (i.e. keep changing parts blindly until we stumbled on a solution) and I had no time or patience for that.

Interesting. Seems OP may have moved on...hopefully he'll come here and say something.

Someone I know has a related? fault with a 2008 Land Cruiser V8 (2UZ FE engine). Maybe some more light can be thrown on it here.

Vehicle is not throwing up any diagnostic test codes. Brakes work normally. No leaks, sponginess or excessive pedal travel. The problem is that if the vehicle is on a steep incline (such as when trying to go over a large speed breaker/bump at speeds of about 1km/h to 5km/h) and you take your foot off the throttle or brake - the vehicle rolls back and the anti-slip (VSC/TRAC) warning light and buzzer come on. On the same incline, another Toyota SUV we tested for comparison simply rolled back slightly until the torque converter held that vehicle stationary - without any buzzer or VSC/TRAC warning light drama.

All mechanics who have checked the vehicle don't seem to know what to do, especially since there are no DTCs. Any ideas, any one?

Are your liqui moly oils still on sale?

dominique:
Trado-medical dotors

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etebefia:
Tinubu has not freed himself and you are asking him to free zakzazy

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pryzlez:
Please, did you do a direct switch to 5W30 or you moved to 0W40 first before finally landing on 5W30

I currently have a 08 outlander with 150k on it and the oil used is Visco 2000.

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I did a direct switch - no intermediate oil viscosity - straight from 20W 50 to 5W 30.

obekediamondfuto:
I'm in awe of admiration


one question tho.... y is ur moniker Volvos60

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I consider the 2001? to 2004? volvo s60 to be one of the most beautifully styled cars on the planet. Not just that, the ergonomics were (and still are) first rate - Swedish design at its best. Pity i never got to own or drive one ...

AutoElectNG:
I love the way you lay down your facts and figures.

Your education, cold logic, measured/calculated risk taking and attention to detail is refreshing.

Thank you for telling your story and fleshing it up with the details I requested

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Glad to be of service, sir.

Shalomc:
Can you point me to the thread for such discuss?

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You were on it not too long ago. It is a prominent thread - you can't miss it.

AutoElectNG:
Love this.

How many years did you use 20w50 before switching in each case?

There is a theory which is that if one uses 20w50 for years, a switch is illadvised, hence the question.

I do not subscribe to the theory but given the vehicles on your case study, the question becomes more apt.

Looking forward to your response.

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2007 model Corolla was bought 2nd hand from the US in 2010 - we used 20w 50 oil (Mobil XHP & Castrol GTX) in lube services from 2010 till 2016. Currently servicing with Nigerian market Mobil 1 synthetic (5w 30, SN).

2008 model RAV 4 was bought new from a dealer in Lagos in 2008 - we used 20w 50 oil (Mobil XHP) in lube services from 2008 till 2016. Serviced the vehicle once with Mobil 1 (0w 40) in 2010 or so. Currently running on Eterna's Castrol Magnatec (5w 30 synthetic, SN) which the labelling claims is made in the EU.

2012 model Camry was bought new from lagos dealer in 2012 - we used 20w 50 oils (Mobil XHP & South African Castrol GTX) in lube services from 2012 till 2017. Currently running on US manufactured Mobil 1 (5w 30, SN).

You are spot on with your assessment about the risk I was said to be taking by switching - several threads here warned that a switch was a sure way to knock an engine and I was talking about 3! But when I looked at the mileages at the time of switching - the Corolla had 83,000 miles, (although its true mileage is likely to be higher since there was evidence of odometer roll back when the car was bought 8 years ago) the RAV 4 had about 116,000km and the Camry had about 48,000km - I decided to take the risk. So far no problems at all - all 3 vehicles are running smoothly - although the Corolla consumes a little oil between lube services. Other than that no issues. I hope things stay that way.

Shalomc:
Why did you switch to US Mobil one from the Nigerian Mobil one oil?

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I wanted to try out the locally sold Mobil 1 versus the US Mobil 1 on two different vehicles to see if there were pronounced differences in the outcomes. On the other thread there does seem to be a lot of scaremongering going on. We have been told the US Mobil 1 is the holy grail but the worshippers have completely forgotten other specs such as Euro spec vehicles in use here - new or used. I have a question for the worshippers: US Mobil 1 has an ACEA A1 rating. Is this sequence still in use in Europe or is it obsolete?

Shalomc:
Yes...of the oils...the noticeable differences and MPG.

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2007 Toyota Corolla US spec bought used in 2010. Used Mobil XHP (20W 50, SL) from 2010 without any (visible) problems for years. Fuel consumption was good but probably would have been better with oils that met the manufacturer's recommended viscosity of 5W 30 (stamped on the oil filler cap). Also used Castrol GTX (20W 50, SL) from South Africa a couple of times without any visible problems.

Vehicle has thrown up a couple of codes for the catalytic converter, O2 sensor and charcoal canister but this doesn't have anything to do with motor oil as far as I am aware. Switched to Nigerian sold Mobil 1 (5W 30, SN - in the old days, the container stated the oils were made in Egypt but this info is no longer there) in late 2016 or early 2017 and been running that since. Not sure if fuel consumption has really improved significantly with the use of Mobil 1 - will confirm figures.

2008 Toyota RAV 4 bought new locally in 2008. I can confirm that the dealer used 20W 50 oil for the first few services while vehicle was still under warranty. I continued to use Mobil XHP (20W 50, SL) for several years, again without any visible trauma. Used Mobil 1 (0W 40) once in 2010 - my first contact with imported synthetic oil. Also used South African Castrol Edge? (15W 40, SN) once in late 2016. Switched to Nigerian sold Mobil 1 (5W 30, SN) in 2017 and paid really close attention - that was when I noticed a big improvement in fuel economy - 11.9litres per 100km compared to prior 15+ litres per 100 km. Currently running Nigerian sold Castrol Magnatec (5W 30, SN). No DTCs.

2012 Camry bought new locally in 2012. Dealer most likely used 20W 50 oil for the first few lube services. I then used Mobil XHP for several years with a few Castrol GTX appearances. Switched to Nigerian sold Mobil 1 (5w 30, SN) IN 2017 and then US Mobil 1 (5w 30, SN) in 2018. I will provide fuel econ figures later. No DTCs.

At least two of the vehicles had an acrid 'burnt oil' smell upon opening the oil filler cap. That's no longer there since we started using the 5w 30 oils.

Shalomc:
Can you kindly share your experiences on the three vehicles...

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Experience with engine oil used or something else?

Shalomc:
Is the car a Volvo or a Mercedes? Are you still using the Nigerian made Mobil1 oils?

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Toyota.

Still using the Nigerian sold Mobil 1 in one vehicle and Castrol Magnatec in another. Using the US Mobil 1 in the vehicle of a relation.