₦airaland Forum

greiboy:
How can people just wake up and insult people from the comfort of their phone

This woman was neither a government official nor the wife of a president but she is the richest woman in Nigeria, according to Forbes

This must have taken a lot of hard work and diligence to achieve, regardless of the alleged support she got from politicians. if it was that easy, why didn't the members of my family and your families gain similar favors.


let us learn to respect or at least acknowledge achievements of others because that is the only way we can understand what it takes to achieve something in life.

Well done ma

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edehgeorgeC:
Hard work, determination and perseverance pays...
She has really worked hard to become a success + God's grace like she asserted. Remain blessed Ma. Long life and good health to enjoy your wealth is my prayer for you.

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I don't know if this piece is indeed true.

If it is, there's a lot to take away.

There is a key lesson here for those on this platform who enjoy spreading the false narrative that only soldiers make 'sacrifices' towards nation building. This man isn't a soldier. He has no guns or horsewhips which to kill, brutalize or maim fellow citizens. He is a civil servant facing incredible odds - and yet he faces those odds and soldiers (in the true sense of the word) on.

There's often a lot of talk here about how the military pay the supreme price in combat and as such they should be 'respected'. What of this man? He could easily drown or be savaged by wild animals in those waters. Would his death (if it were to happen) be less noble?

The difference is that this man has earned respect for his sacrifice. He didn't demand it. He didn't decree it into existence.

He earned it.

Siralgebra04:
We are gradually going out of d original topic. The topic is "Law school codes of conduct vs National Constitution".

I will llke to answer your question in a new trend.

Thanks.

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No Sir.

We are not 'gradually going out of the original topic'. At the heart of what you term 'law school codes of conduct vs national constitution' is the primacy of federal law in this republic. That same issue of primacy of federal law is also the crux of the matter in the issue I brought up - i.e. the adoption of religious law by state legislatures in Nigeria. The core issues are exactly the same.

Firdaus and her supporters cannot claim her rights are being abridged by the Nigerian Law School and at the same time support (covertly or overtly) the abridgement of the rights of other Nigerians.

It doesn't work that way.

nurshah:
We don't need to..

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Ok.

You are well within your rights to decide who to respond to. Or whether to respond at all. But you can only speak for yourself and yourself alone...

Siralgebra04:
My silence doesn't mean i don't av ur answer.
If nobody challenges it, good! But once someone is able to challenge it, then it is contitutional for such surbordinate law which is in disagreement with d National Constitution to be reviewed.

But i wonder y u fail to ask pple who av been giving sentimental and baseless opinions on dis issue. I av not in any way attached sentiment to dis issue. I apply secular law to things dat are constitutional. I will like to see u ask these commentators there concrete and constitutional reasons for there abusive words and hatred as regards Amusa's stand.

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Ok.

I really don't have much to say to to those who, as you say are using "abusive words and hatred" on this matter. Name calling adds nothing to this discussion and so I avoid calling on those posters who are so angry and emotional that they have refused to address this matter in a logical manner.

Having said that, I am going somewhere with my questions on this issue. I am interested in your statement about how you apply "secular law to things that are constitutional". I am also interested in your views about the adoption of Islamic Sharia law as state law by several state legislatures in Northern Nigeria. I am sure you are aware that some parties have challenged the adoption in court. But I want to know what you think about the issue.

Nurshah and Siralgebra have pointedly refused to answer the questions I have asked them...

DaudaAbu:
And what some dont realize is dat this fight is for every other preson dat might have a religious belief dat he/she might like to uphold.


Because if they win this one then those dat hav other religious attires they wish to wear can now use this case as a point of reference. Which invariably means someone has fought for your cause

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Ok. Fair point.

But I have a question for you - what happens when someone dresses (be it for religious or non-religious reasons) in a way that offends your sensibilities - what course of action is acceptable then?

bigfish3k:
no, please let me know

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Ok.

For the record, I am not a lawyer and I have no legal training whatsoever. But from the little I have seen and read about the controversy, I think MURIC and its supporters are likely to prevail in the end.

In the end, Firdaus and her supporters are likely to continue piling on the pressure until something gives. Run through this thread and others and you will understand what I am talking about.

If a "political" solution is not found soon, Firdaus will aim to prove in court that her rights have been abridged. The ruling on this is anyone's guess.

bigfish3k:
the person should be penalized according to the Nigerian law. I mean the law of the land not law in heaven, we are not in heaven
is there anybody that has ever gone to heaven to know how their laws operate? leave things of the spirit for the spirits and humans for humans
when we reach the heaven bridge we go cross am. shikeena

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Lol.

You don't know my position on this matter yet, do you?

bigfish3k:
Nigerian federal law please
here is not heaven

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Very good sir.

So what course of action would you recommend if someone decides that he or she will obey religious law instead of federal law?

Siralgebra04:
Lol... Dear madam/sir
D regulation i stated earlier is d regulation 16(3) of d regulations of d Law School. And it doesn't condemn d use of hijab to call to bar.

Maybe u don't know. No regulation or codes of conduct should b against d Federal Constitution. D law school are against wat d national constitution says in d section 38 of 1999 constitution. Am xooo ashamed my Nigeria law school are blending prospectitive lawyers to act contrary to d federal constitution.

I will ask u dis simple and straightforward question. Is a mere regulation of a school above d a country's Federal Constitution? Knowing fully well dat code of conduct of any organization must go in line with d national constitution.

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Thank you for your response.

You have stated in very clear terms that the constitution takes precedence over other laws.

My response to your question about precedence is equally clear: A school's regulations are subordinate to the federal constitution.

I have another question for you sir/ma'am: what actions would you recommend when someone makes laws that clash with supreme federal law?

Siralgebra04:
I'm just surprised how citizens of Nigeria are xooo sentimental about d issue of Amasa. I'm a muslim, when it comes to secular issues, i dont attach sentiments. Many of u are just using ur brain or let me say level of understanding to give opinions, very few understands laws of d land. Many don't even know wat d regulation of d school actually says. D regulation says:

"Every student proposed and approved for call to the Bar shall, on any Call Night, be dressed in his BIBS and BARRISTER'S gown but shall not place his wig on his head until he has been called to the Bar by the Chairman".
Please note dat the provision above did not make any provision on exposing one's natural hair. It could be argued dat their was no mention of hijab in dat section, the answer to dat is there was equally no mention of trousers, suit, shirt, skirt, pant, etc. The only reasonable conclusion is dat d hijab is not prohibited by d regulations guiding d operations of d body of benchers who are saddled with calling eligible persons to d bar.

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Point noted.

I have a question for you sir/ma'am - the same question I asked nurshah - which laws (to you) take precedence? 'Divinely' ordained religious law or (Nigerian) federal law?

nurshah:
Simple : our laws are divine. Straight from heaven yours are man made.... You have no say we do

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I have a question for you sir/ma'am.

Which law takes precedence to you: 'divinely' ordained religious law or federal law?

purest21:
Nigeria does not need SOMEONE new, we need SOMETHING new. The presidential system is not meant, and cannot be suitable for a heterogeneous state like Nigeria cos it relies heavily on PATRIOTISM to be successful(think about it; an individual with absolute power, and with the majority of those who are to checkmate his powers being in same party as him)

Apart from the renowned patriotic giants- America, use your Google to check which other first world country that practises the presidential system. In the whole of Europe, only Cyprus has a pure presidential system like Nigeria, and as u can see they're not even anywhere close to the top successful EU nations.

Presidential is mostly associated with 3rd world Asian and African countries that keep circling around year to year, India just escaped this same retrogression soon after they switched to parliamentary system where ur own people are always there to be held accountable with nobody to blame or nowhere to hide. Read more about parliamentary system here: https://www.nairaland.com/4300219/presidential-vs-parliamentary-systems-government

We once had that, but since absolute power is the sweetest thing of all, they scrapped it and never considered the heterogeneousness of the country as it affects electing a single person to have absolute power.

It's being 55 years now we kicked the parliamentary system since 1963, anything to show for it? If not hate, Tribalism, nepotism, sectionalism, partialism, intimidation, press censorship, aspersions, blames, power intoxication, militancy, rebellion, gross corruption with no accountability, to name a few.

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Well said. Food for thought.

Sadly he will get away with it.

What a country.

I am surprised though. Nigerians are usually timid when they come up against military brutality but this video shows people are getting fed up. I guess every one has limits - that worthless naval rating should count himself fortunate that people didn't take the law into their hands.

"Onward together" indeed.

Noticed that they were chanting "civilian don buy job".

A few weeks ago, some female NCO posted messages on her social media platform insulting civilians with several derogatory terms.

NA, keep up the 'good work'.

HeyCorleone:
And bought how many boats with it?

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This country na war

QuitNotice:
Sad, but makes it a round figure tho. Who spends twenty naira these days

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It may seem small but it adds up. Every little bit helps.

Poor write-up.

The effusive praise of Mr. Obasanjo is strange. Writer should have spent more time on actually analyzing the issues instead of this poor attempt at hagiography.

Not good enough at all.

Good job OP. A timely reminder of the 'letter writer's' antecedent behaviour in government.

kevoh:
1. I'm an Engineer (elect) and can boldly tell you that all meters I've come across in 9ja can be bypassed.

2. PHCN do come around to check and some get busted and forced to pay 3 months backdated estimated bill which is more expensive than if u had been recharging. It's hard to see my neighbors meter when PHCN come around because it is discreetly blocked in the guise of using net on burglary and they pretend to not be at home whenever PHCN comes knocking.

3. I can't speak in support for dishing out of high estimated bills but trust me, you'll discover that some houses in a street consume as much energy as a factory, some are literally factories diguised as residential houses. PHCN simply divide the total energy consumed in the street by the number of houses on the street in a given month and gbam you've got your monthly estimated bill. A person can be using just a bulb in one room self contained and still be billed for a 3 bedroom flat consumption. Innocent people paying for the wickedness of their street neighbors.

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Sadly, point 1 seems to be true.

Meters in my residential area were replaced recently with a lot of singing, drumming and dancing about how "the meters cannot be by-passed".

The very evening the meters were installed, a resident got an electrican to by-pass the meter and the electrician did so successfully within 45 minutes. The property manager promised to report the matter but so far nothing has come out of it. The sad truth is that PHCN officials are complicit. I personally reported a case of meter by-passing to PHCN 2 years ago but PHCN did absolutely nothing. Their staff turned up and made a lot of noise before going back the way they came - without doing anything to the offenders. Unfortunately that area is paying a heavy price now - the entire area has been cut off from transmission because of this meter tampering even though not every one was involved in the theft.


As for your other points, this is just Nigerian inefficiency at work (or is it at play ) here. Tamper proof meters DO exist but Nigeria is not serious about getting them. When we are serious we will do what is required. This estimated billing nonsense is also nothing but a racket which PHCN is feeding fat on.

The bottomline is that when Nigerians are truly fed up they know what to do.

PStacks:
Be that as it may, I believe electricity situation in the country has improved generally and you cant take that dint of hardwork away from the Minister in charge of Power and his boss the president that asigned him that ministry.

I mean, electricity generating capacity today is about and around 7,000megawats unlike the 4,000 that was available in the Jonathan days.
the drive and political will is there. We are seeing works on going at the Mambilla and all other sorts of tact being implored to increase and sustain electricity supply.

the essence of this thread is not to shower encomiums on the present APC government in that regards, that would be left for a later day.

source: https://www.omascope.com/business/wasteful-nigerians-and-their-insatiable-appetite-for-electricity

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This thread proves one thing: Raise hell and you'll get what you want.

I'm sure those who run piggeries, poultry farms and aquaculture outfits must be kicking themselves in the teeth now. The country would have been theirs for the taking if only they had given free rein to the devil within.

Appeasement is NOT the answer. Never has been, never will be. Because the belly of the beast is never satisfied.

oladikenie:
Africans and foolishness! Somebody just wakes up someday and wants to become popular, so he looks for some big name and insults. Immediately he said Baba Adeboye is the founder of redeem, I knew the boy didn't even have his facts straight. In the school of greatness, you acknowledge those who've been there to move up to their level, not insult them. Its cos of fools like you your generation will have to pray against sins of their 'fore fathers'

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Oh the irony...

Nigerians have to decide.

When the church building collapsed last year there was a lot of pain and sorrow expressed here on this platform. Real people with families, jobs and lives to live DIED in that disaster.

The living have since moved on. It would be more accurate to say they have forgotten the dead but that wouldn't 'sound right' to our hypocritical ears that are dead to justice and truth. Did the AKSG set up a panel to investigate the collapse of that structure? If it did, where is the report? Twelve months is more than enough to get answers. Where is the report?

These are the questions that need answers. This fellow challenging the AKSG has made several solid points. Several. (One can only hope he won't sing a different tune tomorrow). The fellow is asking the hard questions (that must be asked) and his critics are threatening eternal damnation - all because he has refused to follow blindly.

Nigerians have to decide what they want.

Mr. Bello needs to tread carefully. Very carefully. Its not quite clear the extent of his consultation on this matter with the people of the state he governs. Time will tell how this plays out.

On a different note, this thread demonstrates quite clearly the limits of ethnic bigotry. It seems some posters have made a name for themselves fighting the 'tribal' wars NL is notorious for. The problem with this is that in no time such posters will be pigeonholed and simply not taken seriously.

OP - you may have something here.

It will probably never happen of course but imagine if ancestral DNA testing was mandatory in this country - just like a drivers licence or a passport. And imagine if the test and test results could not be compromised.

On this thread, some people are already having seizures at the prospect of possibly having ancestral DNA linking them to other ethnicities. Imagine if they took the test and the results came back "positive" .

Nothing quite like being forced to take on one's inner demons and their non-stop howling.

spectroscopic:
You are indeed very funny. There was a racist white man who was a full blooded white supremacist. He did his DNA test and found out he was 16% black. He was said to have committed suicide thereafter. Be careful what you wish yourself for you may be in for a shocker.

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He wanted the truth but couldn't handle it...

Fools.

Wasting their energy on page after page of rabid ethnic chauvinism and other nonsense.

As far back as 50 years ago, North Americans had gathered considerable intel (not 100% accurate but detailed enough) on things going on in this country. And they are still hard at work gathering more intel AND influencing the course of events in this place, while we fool and deceive ourselves.

Big blind country.

9jeriyan army...

Everything except soldiering.

A few months ago they were investigating revenge porn in Akure. Now they are in the centre of this hot potato topic of cattle colonization/imperialism with no regard for the optics. Is there a provision for piggery farming in this new initiative?

Interesting.

When will Nigerians ever get to see declassified reports (however brief) by our own intel agencies on the goings on in other countries?

Or will the argument be made that such reports should not be seen by the general public for so-called "security reasons"?

This country keeps embassies (with defence/military attaches) and trade missions in several countries (friends and foes alike) and it maintains them at great cost. I presume there are also personnel who for years have been entrusted with the task of gathering intel on the goings on in these countries. Where are the results and reports from the intel gathered and how have they been used to advance this country's interests?

Where is the work done by the defunct NSO, the NIA, etc.? Or they exist just to increase our stock of 3 letter acronyms?