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Do you know average market women in ilorin does not know their king as emir but oba. Ilorin dialect is not very different from that of oyo.
The Fulani owning ilorin is in the past, visit ilorin for yourself bro you will think you are in Ibadan or ogbomosho.

Even the bariba and tapa (nupe) are fast losing their culture to the yorubas because of the ilorin influence on them.

In the Yeye Oge’s team, was the Senior Special Assistant on Youth Empowerment(West) to Kogi State Governor, who is also an indigen of the Okun nation. He conveyed the greetings of Kogi State Government led by His Excellency, Alhaji Yahaya Bello, the Executive Governor to the Ooni of Ife. The SSA, Hon. Adebanji Aiyelabowo noted the roles the Okun community is playing in the development of Kogi State and as well appreciated His Imperial Majesty, Oba Ogunwusi for his support for the Okun community world wide.
The Yagba East Local Government traditional council Secretary Mrs Mary Omolayo Adeniyi was also one of the visitors who spoke out to the hearings of the Ooni. In her brief statement, She solicited for the continuous support of the Palace to the Okuns.
His Imperial Majesty, who gladly received the visitors, expressed his excitement and joy to have the people of Okun in Kogi State come identify with their history and ancestors.
The people of Okun are peaceful, accommodating and progressive minds. I have so many friends, associates, sons and daughters from Kogi state and Okun to be precise. The Oba has said.
Further more, he shared a lot of historical events with the visitors and promised to uphold the relationship between the Okuns especially in Kogi and the Palace. I will henceforth include the Okuns into programs and projects of Ile Ife to the development of the Okun nation.
The visitors didn’t fail in presenting the Okun Attire among other items brought from Kogi as souvenir to the Ooni of Ife and with fulfilment on the faces of the Yeye Oge of Okun land and her entourage, they appreciated the Oba and prayed for him. In return, His Imperial Majesty blessed the visitors as they departed and he sent them forth in peace.

https://ereporternews.com/2017/05/18/yeye-oge-of-okun-land-strengthens-the-relationship-between-okun-and-ile-ife/

Kogi Yoruba (Okun) strengthens relationship with Ile Ife
History has it that we are descendants from Ile Ife and it is needful that we come pay homage to our Imperial Majesty and as well reconnect ourselves to the blessings of our tradition and cultural heritage. Our visit is to also enhance our relationship with Ife especially the Palace. These were the words of the Yeye Oge

Okun is the Yoruba speaking region in the West Senatorial District of Kogi State and the Yeye Oge is the custodian of the Okun tradition and culture. Yeye Omoleye Adebanji Aiyelabowo, the Yeye Oge in her quest to uphold the Okun tradition and culture has today met with the Ooni of Ife, arole oduaa,oonirisa,Oba Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi.Ojaja II, for the development of the Okun cultural heritage.
Your Imperial Majesty, I and my entourage are here this day 17th may,2017 understanding our origin as Okuns. History has it that we are descendants from Ile Ife and it is needful that we come pay homage to our Imperial Majesty and as well reconnect ourselves to the blessings of our tradition and cultural heritage. Our visit is to also enhance our relationship with Ife especially the Palace. These were the words of the Yeye Oge

Ilaro ogun state
Heavy rainfall on 29th of oct.

I made a gamble on NIMET believing rainfall will stop on 30 of nov in ilaro, according to their prediction. I counted 15 days backward to nov 15 with this in mind I planted corn.
My Maize is about 7weeks of 10 weeks. Hoping my gamble will be successful. Update you guys later.
https://nimet.gov.ng/sites/default/files/publications/2018%20SRP.pdf

Sprumbabafather:
I support this programme not because the good south needs it, NO. An average Iboman or Ijawman can afford to send their kids to the best private schools and pay heavily for transportation and feeding. To the Ibos and Ijaws, its an investment so we don't need this watery beans service.

I support the free feeding to enable our northern and south west and north central brothers to send their children to much needed schools because if not for things like this, the uneducated ones will somehow find themselves in power in those states and continue to pull this contraption down, and we end up using our Niger Delta oil money to fight the troubles they kick up

Laughs!! you must be living an average or above average income as regard Nigerian scenario. All zones in Nigeria needs this! I have been to all zones I see no difference, there are extremely poor people all over. It is ignorance on the part of my southern brothers to think only the north is poor, they may be right because they have largest population of poor people but I have seen extreme poverty in south-east, south west. I won't mention ijaw only but I will say in the whole south the south-south are the poorest.

Maize prices depend on season

http://www.webometrics.info/en/Africa/Nigeria

That is the correct ranking. Abuad still on a long queue

All universities in West Africa are still lagging behind, even Ghana. Let us all be guided

This is a fake news!
Imagine calabar reporters!
This is 2015 result as posted on naija.ng

https://www.naija.ng/720205-south-east-states-top-waec-result-ranking-zamfara-yobe-come-last-see-full-ranking.html#720205

Summary of what was written

oyatz:
Intelligent people learn from their mistakes and the mistakes of others.
Violence, militancy, Kidnapping and bombing of oil infrastructure in the volatile Niger Delta hasn't solved the problems of the region .
It only enriched few individuals and inadvertently put the Niger Delta in negative positions.

The next phase in the development of the N/Delta should be devoid of violence and militancy and the youths of the region should be led by intellectuals who can use economic means to achieve substantial resource control.

There is no reasons why Asari-Dokubo, Tompolo, Edwin Clark, James Ibori etc can't establish their own refineries in their States and dominate the production of Nigeria's downstream oil sector.
They can even get free crude oil in the first year of operations.

The development of niger delta is a long time project if it starts today the benefits will be reaped in 25yrs time.
Massive investment in quality education is the only way out. All the IOC's should be headed by the indigenes

Efewestern:
Yes I do agree with that the state is cursed with bad leaders, Because I see no reason why a state like Ondo can't be the richest state in SW, a state blessed with huge mineral and natural resources, I dare say no state in SW can't match her when it comes to God given resources.

But bad leaders are not limited to PDP alone, even the current governor who is an APC governor is doing nothing to develop the state.

Ondo state is so blessed that I wonder why their IGR is so low compared to other state like edo. Edo and ondo state have the same potential yet different level of development

Lagos also is doing same to power their embedded power system.
In the long run, they will depend on liquefied natural gas sourced from NLNG or anywhere in the world then regasify it to power the power plants.
This is called energy security- you secure the source of your energy, through protection or multiple energy sources, to make it available and reliable.
Niger delta area is a volatile area.

Efewestern:
Yes.. I know of that issue.. I still prefer Ondo state thou, it would've been easier to source for materials, Crude from Ilaje can provide for about 10% of the refinery's total capacity.

with Dangote refinery in Ondo state, FG will have not option than to fasten the development of the EPZ project in Ogidigben, which is not far from Ondo, it's a win win for Every one.

Everything must not be in Lagos, such a huge project should be located in a place with less development not Lagos.

Lagos developed a business plan for Dangote to invest and operate with minimal cost. Lagos is building the lekki sea port in order for Dangote to receive crude from anywhere in the world, majorly nigeria, and export to anywhere in the world,majorly Africa. Ondo state does not have the facilities Lagos have and does not have the financial muscle to build those facilities, these couple with other factors.
Crude oil will be majorly received from the Niger delta and little from Lagos. But instead of pipeline, Dangote will buy the crude as an international buyer just like the way other countries buy from Nigeria but it will be delivered through the marine transportation, ships. I believe companies will sell to him without hindrances, even if the whole crude supply in Nigeria shuts down he can easily get it from outside.
Ondo State does not have a seaport, it is often associated with militants who can disrupts it's operations and bad politics also affected the siting of the refinery in ondo state.
Lagos oil is little to be sufficient for the operation of the refinery.

gurunlocker:
Way better? In what way please? You can compare them with Sub-Sahara countries, I believe you won't do that with Europe and North America.

Europe?!!! North America?!!!
Tell me you are kidding?
I know which society is saner

gurunlocker:
While Saudi Arabia which is where we can call the birth place of Islam is gradually coming to their senses and trying to join other in 21st century, other Muslim nations and some naija Muslims keep enslaving their women in the name of religion.

Liberation of the mind is a rare thing. Having this ideology that only western civilisation is the only one and true form of civilisation is pitiable. These arab nations were never colonized and they are still way better than any southern American and subsahara countries

Idrismusty97:
Yea, Example the used of phone in replying me right now. Although i criticized most religion but when it comes to Islam i don't even know where to start from, Your backwardness is on a whole new level.

No, I think it is the other way round. Your IQ cant comprehend what is happening because of your exposure

How will this make Nigeria great?

jomonic:
This sea port is a reality. It is already creating revebrations of business opportunities from the construction alone in neighboring states, Rivers, Cross River, etc. It is driving up the cost of haulage in these neighbouring states, thereby creating instant opportunities for growth. Akwa Ibom will be the next business destination and a game changer. Thank GOD for democracy and the innovative leadership in that state from inception. Akwa Ibom always got it right with leadership. The real Nigeria may emerge after all said and done, a Nigeria based on fair and balanced competitiveness that favours all the constituent parts. Not the one where some regions are deliberately emasculated so that some select regions will shine.

My brother, the bitter truth no one wants to hear is that Nigeria cannot be fair without restructuring, without restructuring there can never be equity.
I won't blame anyone for others problem, maybe am biased because am extremely pro-yoruba tbh, the system we currently run is 'rule or be ruled' or simply 'survival of the fittest' if the table were to turn around other tribes complaining MAY be worst in sort of this issues than the yorubas and hausa/fulanis.
If you critically reason what deomelllo posted about the port being budgeted yearly you will agree with me that the problem lies with Akwa-ibom. Although the messenger, deomello, can be rude but the message is the truth
Let us restructure so everyone will develop at its own pace without bad feeling that one section is undermining the other

benben1000:
Afonjas looking at Akwa Ibom with bad eye...saying in their minds: you want to finish us abi? First, you are building towers/skycrappers to relocate oil companies from Lagos to Akwa Ibom by force, and now, you are building the largest seaport in Nigeria to corner all shipping from Lagos ports to Akwa Ibom. Watch as Afonja media will start focusing negatively on Ibibio very soon like they do to Igbos and Ijaws whom they see as their biggest threat in the East.

I dont think so.
If hundreds of port are built in Nigeria, Lagos will always be Lagos because it was not built in a decade but decades just like any other city in the world.
Why not make this project all-inclusive; Muslims, Christians, all ethnic group in Nigeria and abroad. Dubai, Lagos, Abuja, America, Uk and any other developed places were developed through collective effort but politically managed through her citizens.
Playing ethnic card may be detrimental to this priject

Letusbepieces

I like your humour, nice one �

How I wish this company is in c river it would have facilitated the growth of the already expanding manufacturing industries and the seaport will experience a turn around.

Blue3k2:
That's no excuse to be silent on the issue. The state rant about issues that are outside of its control frequently. The governor whines about IOC not having there HQ in the state, NNPC not having DPR office, allocation, railway projects, federal government owing state etc. Yet they want to be silent on this issue.

I agree with baralatie the case is beyond akwa ibom, we are talking of a federal government property! A property that has been moribund for decades.
If you are an adviser to the governor on matters relating to this, what would you have advised?

If fayemi can pull this one off, it will be a great achievement for him and Nigerians, but it seems the case is beyond him

Show us pictures like that of Aregbesola thread
https://www.nairaland.com/4242672/gov-aregbesolas-transformation-osun-state#63429717

zendy:
Oduduwa Republic? Waste of time, Yorubas cannot produce an Nnamdi Kanu or Ojukwu in my lifetime to push for such agenda. Oduduwa Republic will never mean more than a mere map. We know the proponents of freedom in this part of Africa and Yorubas aint one of them.


However, I glad that who ever drew this map took great care not to include sny of the Ika-Igbos in it.

Proponent of freedom!
Go back in history in recent time, how the middlebelt was enslaved by the northern feudal system. Who were those behind their liberation from such system?
Who were those behind the fight for independence?
Have you ever heard about proposed republic of southern Nigeria?
Freedom means different thing to different people

I dont know what is wrong with nairalanders, we attach what is common to humans irrespective of race to a particular tribe while excluding your own. Crime, infidelity and bad behaviours should be devils work and not limited to a tribe. Have you seen some Europeans houses, you will vomit your intestines if you enter such-extremely dirty- yet we regard Europeans as civilised

reality1010:
Yorubas were used to be called pigs I wonder why others r called pigs whereas it s a birthright to yorubas. I remember d 80s in Lagos.we call them pigs because of their dirty nature.

Sir, tell me the area you are from and I will show you where pigs stay in the area

GuidoVanRossum:
I'm sorry this has turned to unintended tribal war. I made a post on this thread, maybe you've read it. I and Redoil are from the same village. You can see that his argument with mine tallied. Scholes and ezanafe who are from Ibillo have had their history told to them by foreigners. However, I must state that the yoruba influence in Ibillo's history is very high. Their streets have yoruba names. However, their language, culture, and style of worships is so Edo. In Ibillo, almost all streets have a shrine house and they will be the first to wake you with their bells every morning (uloku agbe), this is similar to the Benin way of worship which I've never come across in any Yoruba land. Their dialect is heavily derived from the Benin. When they speak, nobody will tell you before you know this language is edo, even though we don't really understand each other deeply, the way they speak is understandable to the rest of the edos. Let me give you this expo, if someone is speaking Esan beside me, I will immediately know it's Esan and if I listen attentively, I will be able to pick one or two things and arrive at a possible conclusion on what he is saying. Same with the okpameri language, same with the umas. Ososo and Okpella, jatuu and auchi can pick one or two things that each is saying. Truth is, edo language is real, but our fathers have deprived us of opportunity to have a universal edo language by allowing the Yorubas to enforce their language on us during the regional government era. The history Ezanafe and Scholes are depending on is a recent not well articulated history, a percentage of Ibillo people agreed that they originate from Benin, why another said they are from Ife (these other groups also think Benins are from Ife anyway). Now, in Akoko Edo, Ibillo language is highly similar to about 22 other villages known as the Okpameris and a lot of these other villages don't agree to the fact that they are Yorubas.

scholes0 :

Are you saying you know the people of Ibillo, Ikpeshi, Isua, Ogori ,Imeri, Lamkpeshe, Ososo, Etc more than the people themselves?
If you have been through the area, you will know that these people of Northern Edo/North-East Ondo (AKOKO/AKOKO-EDO) are Yoruba, with some Edo influences.
Each group in Akoko and surrounding areas have their own language, one town can have one language/local dialect, but the general language and predominant culture in the area is Yoruba.


ezanafe :

You are some how right that Aiyegunle which is part of Akoko Edo speaks Yoruba dialect. In other words they still have their own self developed and spoken dialect which is different from Yoruba


Ibillo is part of the greater Akokoland, although politically they are Akoko-Edos. Yoruba culture is predominant in this area and a dialect of Yoruba language is officially spoken in this area. So, it is logical to categorise them as part of the Yoruba commonwealth.


Sir, Ibillo's official spoken language is Ibillo. But truly Yoruba culture is predominant in the area. Thanks

scholes0:
True, The local dialect spoken in Ibilo town is Ibilo (Okpameri) - but It is gradually fading away to Yoruba influences. Many of the Younger generation cant speak it anymore.
How can we preserve the local dialects of the area?

redoil:


one thing i am very sure of is that the people of akoko edo speaks more than 20 languages and which Yoruba is not part off. The fact that the people of akoko edo have decided to assimilate and associate with Yoruba people, culture, and language for easy access to trade with them does not make akoko edo people more or less originated from Yoruba land.

scholes0:


The people of Akoko Edo are very fragmented, just like the peoples of Akoko proper. Almost every town have different languages and dialects, but speak Yoruba as a general language. And it is not for trading with Yoruba people but rather, trading and relating with themselves..
Between Isua Akoko (Ondo state) and Ogori Magongo (Kogi state) for example, you might come across up to 20 languages and dialects, how else are they supposed to communicate with one another.
Culturallly speaking the area is at the boundry where yoruba-Edo and Ebira meet, and the people theselves are a mixture of all three, with Yoruba ancestry being dominant.

I asked a friend ( who always claim to be a yoruba) who asked his father, the response was:

Akoko-Edo is a nodal area with different languages but edo culture (not language) is dominant. there is also the presence of some ebiras. The presence of Yoruba language and culture is due to proximity to akokos and influx of Yoruba businessmen. Although some areas( which was not stated) claim to have their ancestral origin from Ife.

Thanks GuidoVanRossum
I have my own opinion of Akoko-Edos
Bye

SicilianMafia:

We are not Brothers!!

yimu

why are your history intertwined.
do you share part of your with hausas -- no
do you share part of your with ibos -- no( apart from establishing a throne in Onitsha)
do you share part of your kanuri -- no

I beg make una answer me jare!!!

awon to o nikan she

fighting unnecessarily

I don't know how these turned to yoruba-edo war, a never ending war cos they are neighbours and brothers.

anyway

the Akoko-Edos in the house do you agree with ezanfe and scholes0 in this https://www.nairaland.com/2097102/brief-historical-origin-ibillo-community/1

[quote author=GuidoVanRossum post=64109405][/quote]There was a topic like this in 2015 which I dug out. pls take a look at it.

I think there is a little difference of opinion between you and other Akoko-Edos. Am I wrong?

https://www.nairaland.com/2097102/brief-historical-origin-ibillo-community/1

[quote author=GuidoVanRossum post=64109405][/quote]There was a topic like this in 2015 which I dug out. pls take a look at it.

I think there is a little difference of opinion between you and other Akoko-Edos. Am I wrong?

pls let us discuss the subject topic don't derail this