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Is it then safe to say Christianity has TWO true Gods?

ayoku777:
Only the Father and Jesus are worthy of the honour of worship.

Why do we pray?

You claim authorship by omitting your sources

Gombs:
You're this desperate? Hahaaahahahhahahaha

Most of my short topics are from ROR, go check them all.... How's that plagiarism, if I never claimed authorship?

Get serious and find something to do with your time.

So,
Why would you be censured for having other gods? Or that means straying outside the group of Gods making up Elohim?

ayoku777:
You're very right. Elohim in hebrew has always been primarily plural, not a singular term.

The oneness of the Godhead has never been numerical but rather oneness in power, purpose and principles.

Remember that just as the Father and the Son are one (John 10v30); the Father and the Son and the church are also now one (John 17v21).

Is that oneness numerical? Or oneness in power, purpose and principles? Of course its the latter.

So yes, Jesus is God and the Father is God. And the Father s the God of Jesus. That is more than one God.

Let me ask you this.

What is the implication of the Father being called "MostHigh God"?

The Father being called "MostHigh God" implies there are other Gods who are not on the same level of authority with Him. Namely Jesus; and the Church through the Spirit.

I don't know where the idea crept into the church that saying we have more than one God is heresis; when many scriptures show that Jesus is the God with a God.

The Father is called Elohim Elohim (God of Gods). And "Elohim Elohim" does not mean God of false gods.

Psalm 136v2 -O give thanks unto God of gods (Elohim Elohim): for His mercy endureth forever.

So yes; Elohim has always been plural. The oneness of the Godhead is not numerical.

Shalom.

Thanks

WinsomeX:
vooks, trustman, nannymcphee, candour, muttleylaff, and others, a discission is about to commence on a Facebook group Open Congregation on the book vooks supplied above. I invite you all to join it.

https://m./114614961953827?view=permalink&id=825134217568561&_rdr

You might need to join the group to comment. It is a closed group with a moderator who will accept your request. You may speed up your acceptance by sending a private message explaining you're joining bc of Kate's book.

Just aksin,
If Jesus is God and Father is His God, are they our Gods? And isn't that polytheism?

ayoku777:
I'm not saying that Jesus is not God or that He is not above all else except the Father. I'm just saying He has a God too. One He would be subject to for eternity.

Its not together that Jesus and the Father are God, like voltron. Three persons in one God is not true. Jesus is God, the Father is God and the Father is the God of Jesus.

Aaaaaand he did it!
Not Nigerian though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9RXFAa1PhE

Claims to be Elijah
https://www.nairaland.com/2002872/here-prophet-claiming-malachi-4s

You are a genius!
Let's give them a few more hours

Tallesty1:
They are already cutting and joining videos

Why do we pray?

And please quit mindlessly plagiarizing Oyaks
https://www.facebook.com/yookosprayer/posts/864102340317898

Gombs:
To get power?


Chaii

Power does not come through/by prayer......what then is the purpose of prayer?

Gombs:
But power doesn't come by prayer.


This, again, didn't come by or through prayer

What did you find or how many souls did you catch?

sonOfLucifer:
Been doing some soul-searching.

Negro, where have you been?

sonOfLucifer:
Hi vooks.

http://edition.cnn.com/2015/04/25/asia/nepal-earthquake-7-5-magnitude/index.html

Usual suspects, TB Joshua?

Image123, you can be hard and funny at the same time

Image123:
Search for the combination of "Bonnke", "1991", "Kano" on the Internet at least. Don't glory in ignorance RoyPCain.

I don't recall any Caucasian with such a passion for winning Negro souls. He is a legend, God bless you sir!

Gentile Jew wannabe,
Grow a brain

MrPresident1:
Deuteronomy 32:30
30 How should one chase a thousand, and two put ten thousand to flight, except their Rock had sold them, and the LORD had shut them up?

Romans 11:12
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?

It's clear Midas Touch was a regret letter to all victims of Faith Movement both here and elsewhere...actually everywhere apart from WOFers like Gombs. You need to go through the Midas thread to see the amount of semantics they entertained to avoid the OBVIOUS conclusions from the book.

Jehovah's Witnesses once had a no-blood transfusion policy/doctrine and so many deaths later, they revised the policy. Initially they watered it down and reasoned that transfusion of blood components such as plasma is not eating blood while total transfusion is. They could not afford to admit their lethal errors seeing they are Jehovah's voice on earth. Likewise, Hagin restrained himself from totally censuring the garbage he spent a better part of his life preaching and from which he gained personally.

MuttleyLaff:
There arent my words or quotes
the words and quotes are from Kate's book
so if you want to grumble, vent it out with Kate

Quite an ORGASMIC delivery on this post
Do you have any ORGASMIC verse for me today?

Gombs:
Eyaaaa... CE vocabulary



Quit whining and crying over nothing

But... Pastor Chris they said we copy everything from does not use the word orgasmic? Wow

If he doesn't use it, how then is it a CE vocabulary?



Get serious son! It's Saturday, go do something creative. Or, ruminate on the pic below, we might have a breakthrough

How often does Oyaks use ORGASMIC during his services?
I need one of his ORGASMIC sermons like now
I bet the way Joagbaje went against his wager with SirJohn was ORGASMIC?
Or the way gutter press sensationalized Oyaks divorce...they went ORGASMIC

Gombs:
Really? CE vocabulary? Are you this crude? Son! You are getting too old for frivolity.

Check out sense 2, and what if I meant sense 1? You've constantly said I ignored issues and go the other way, but see how hypocritical you are... Of all I wrote, orgasmic caught your attention. Then what, you made an issue outta it "CE Vocabulary".

Well, you both can now discuss it at length as occultism term, used in CE, I'd not be surprised.

New CEC vocabulary

Cc Winsomex

Gombs:
Folks be mentioning my name, y'all have my attention now.




I didn't bother downloading the book, but if it has Midas Touch in it, then it just got juicier. WX called Hagin a failure because of the book, and I hope this new book he's orgasmic about will make him eat a humble pie. Actually, to WX, Hagin would have been a star if not for his endorsement of tithing, and other teachings about giving.

Buy a brain and then engage me

MrPresident1:
I see vooks has been having very strong multiple o.rga.sms off my mentions

Jeremiah 2:14
14 Is Israel a servant? is he a homeborn slave? why is he spoiled?

Jeremiah 5:19
19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, Wherefore doeth the LORD our God all these things unto us? then shalt thou answer them, Like as ye have forsaken me, and served strange gods in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not yours.

Isaiah 14:1-2
1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.
2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

Winsomex my broda,
Let me spoil it for you
Midas Touch by Hagin is mentioned severally so much I lost count

WinsomeX:
nannymcphee, I will like to know your views on the book whose download link vooks placed up there.

Bahaism don't believe in no 'supernatural'. Would you call Bahaism a religion?

MrPresident:
lolz!, but really, atheism isn't religion.
religion is an organized apparitional institution/establishment to express belief/worship in a supernatural power or powers that created/control the universe. while atheism is simply the disbelief in such powers and practices.
if reasoned censoriously,there is no need trying to convince, because it isn't a religion.

Agreed, try convincing an atheist that atheism is a religion

MrPresident:
religion is a big scam,
but it's easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled.

sir,
You are very right.
This is John Chi's Official website
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This is a fraudulent page. But it still begs the question; if an MoG demanded that much money in exchange for his 'anointed water' would you give it? You may answer in the negative but those fraudsters clearly know that there are gullible ignorant believers who would never hesitate to part with the money

jcross19:
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Thank you sir,
I received a whatsapp message by a prominent MoG, the caption was 'your words are containers of power, they have the ability to change and direct your future'. The words sounded familiar and New Age so I did a Google.....after a few hours I ran into the dissertation..

What will surprise Gombs and Joagbaje is that most of their cliches are over 100 years old and not exactly 'revelation'

About a thread, I don't think am as structured as you or BabaGnoni and if you are convinced, please start one

WinsomeX:
vooks, this book is explosive!

I'm in chapter 2 and cannot drop it.

I request a special thread to discuss it. A PHD thesis that offers a historical perspective to the Pentecostal faith movement.

I also appreciate the fact that it was non critical academic work that can be read without offence by Gombs and Joagbaje and others. It will offer am increased knowledge on where we all cane from.

CC: sportsman

What am saying is there is no reason to ape Americanism in these matters, reason being I believe it is a disservice to do all this in the name of Jesus. However, after observing how some meetings are charged, minimal security is necessary, minimal means able ushers to control the excited crowds. Just that. Kevlar vests and AK47 and other side-arms have no place in churches unless there are credible terror threats

brocab:
Mr Vooks exactly what are you trying to say? Are you comparing America with Africa, pastors are making less than the other in the Church.
Hearing pastors having bodyguards, sounds a bit over the top-but hey I don't disbelieve you, I don't sit in a Church long enough, to see the action.

If this is the case-the Lord see's, and those who are making less or more' don't matter to Him, they all have the intentions to rob the Church, which means they are robbing God.

But remember' these people have chosen to do these crimes, and having bodyguards to protect them wearing the worldly full armour, are called Gangsters, living the highways, not wearing God's full armour, are walking themselves straight into Hell.

The blind leading the blind-but it's not our job, "I was told this recently" we can't save them-only the Lord can.
We can help give them warning-but with "Mr greed" hanging around who's willing to listen?

And if the Church chooses to follow after this sort of behaviour, but your Spirit is talking to you about this-then it's best to follow your heart and do what the Lord is telling you to do and get out of there, 1 Timothy 6:5 say's>Useless wrangling's of Men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is means of gain {Money} From such withdraw yourselves.

'Adieu Lucy' is in French. Hoping you understand the language

DProDG:
If you cannot even back up your assertions, how do you expect to be taken seriously? You might as well tell me to google 'evolution is a lie'.

Google 'Adieu Lucy' and then revert

DProDG:
This is an example of a citation - http://www.nature.com/ncomms/2015/150401/ncomms7690/full/ncomms7690.html

Do you have any or not? If you do, you can respond in this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2250358/what-argument-against-evolution

This thread had nothing to do with evolution or creationism yet you somewhat injected that....that's spamming. To redeem you, I challenged you to start a thread on Origins and invite me. Sadly I'd be long dead by the time you gather enough courage to explain to me what amount of faith it takes to believe in 'in the beginning DIRT...'

davien:
Now you accuse me of spamming? lol,I know you're at your last straw here...so you'll either start lying or insulting to defend young earth creationism....

Google 'Adieu Lucy'

DProDG:
A citation on that please

On top of spamming you are a coward.
Start a thread on Origins and invite me

davien:
lol! This is classic....I asked if it was a scientific consensus that it's been disproved like you claimed and you spin me a story...

And again how is where dirt came from important to evolution?