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deborah777:
Sorry i just tried to quote from my head one paragraph what i had read from Now you want to marry -book what is used in ce for marriage counselling. Basically i meant this from page 8 under title specific cases-when both persons are committed in different churches: "Both parties MUST eventually end up in one Church. It is also an illusion to plan to continue attending different churches. You cannot support yourselves spiritually this way and it also limits the level you can get to in such respective churches. There is no hard and fast rule that the couple should end up in the man’s Church but this is usually the case, sothe lady must ensure she is comfortable in the man’s Church."

in that same title it is say also: "Sharp or opposite doctrinal differences may eventually divide a home.Initially when the euphoria or novelty of love is still fresh, these things would appear to both parties as unimportant. This is an illusion as when they finally settle down to living, there would be constant conflicts." and "When both parties also have not been exposed to the same set ofdoctrines, there would need to be a time for ‘catching up’ by one party.This would result in a delay with respect to making spiritual progress when compared with another couple who also started at the same time but were previously exposed to the same set of doctrines."
In generally i agree with those paragraphs from that book because really every church have different beliefs and it have to make sure before getting married. Maybe even Rev Anita did not knew at beginning what his "lovely" husband believes until now when she decided for divorce.

And it ends "The best thing to do in these instances is to submit to the advice of the leadership of your Church. It is very wrong to go against the Pastor’s advice in the place where you are fed the Word of God and are seeing evident fruit of that Word in your life (Hebrews 13:7, 17). God’s dealings with individuals are also different and what is OK for one person might not be appropriate for another. Also at a higher level of commitment, some things are not the best for you. This is where the Pastor (or his delegated authority) comes in.He hears from God and can help set you in the right path for your life."
With this paragraph there is some things, i can not agree bit. Yes I can agree that it might be good to talk with spiritual leader who is above you -like to listen his oponion on this case. But I can not agree with that what it seems saying like I personally can not be able to listen from God (which is against word of God for exampe Rom 8:16 all who spirit of God leads are children of God) and must to obey the guidance the pastor gets from God if i want to be in line with him. Because there is always a option that pastor might make mistake in his listening from God and if person is trustful towards the pastor he or she may loose his or her mate and his or her happiness.
It proves the cases i have read before from web about ce members who literally had left their church and married somewhere else because their leaders in ce had not agreed with their marriage.

anyway you can download the book on your own from this blog https://timothyblogs./2014/02/13/a-marriage-guide-from-christ-embassy/ or just put into google christ embassy marriage counselling.

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Here is the link
https://timothyblogs.files./2014/02/marriage-counselling.pdf

I once aksd Gombs/mbaemeka whether there is any marriage literature by Oyaks and he said there is none. Page 6 is a classic

tartar9:
did he ask a question or you find no problem that he initiated his ignorant write-up with glaring falsehood.any two divorcee can remarry but after divorce of three times,they can no longer remarry unless she has married another man and he also has divorced her. this should be a real marriage.Marrying in order to remarry and then to divorce is not allowed in Islam

You are not making sense.
Supposing you divorced your wife and later you want to remarry her. Must she get married,bedded and divorced before you are allowed to remarry her?

Yes/No?

tartar9:
Trash!
you cant just wake up or get angry and say "i divorce you" and get a divorce.the Talak is a long process consisting of the steps of;Initiation,Reconciliation and Completion.the phrase "I divorce you" is used to signify the consummation of the divorce process.

Negro please!
What are the conditions for remarriage between two divorcees? Are you literate?

Why should it suck?
These asinine laws are a good measure of Allah their goddess' IQ

dayodare49o:
hmm "popular" good for you anyway!

I challenged this davien guy to open an Origins thread and invite me, am still waiting. Creationism is not just how life started but how EVERYTHING came about. So you can't possibly debate origin or EVERYTHING (Creationism) against origin of life (evilution) because evolution presupposes existence of matter

Abuamam:
I think YOU need to take a manners test. Pls watch your language.

I recommend an IQ test again. Will show why

The religion was not born in 500CE. The religion is as old as mankind.

What proof do you have for this?

Your language analogy is completely invalid.

Take that test asap, your comprehension is atrocious

Pidgin is demonstrably spoken only recently in Africa. There are no records of pidgin words in historical sources. Had it been ascertained that pidgin wordings were spoken prior to, or simultaneously with, England's English; as monotheism seems to be the genesis of every religion before it degenerates into philosophical debate; then there would have been no reason to doubt that pidgin was the percusor of English;

Pidgin has English words in its vocabulary. An Englishman listening to pidgin would pick some words. So we have a recent language sharing some words with an older language. We have Islam, an recent religion sharing A LOT of practices and beliefs with older religions. Is it not hypocritical you can see how nonsensical it is to claim English, an older language is a corruption of the newer pidgin while maintaining that Judaism and Christianity the older monotheistic religions are a corruption of the newer Islam?

as there is no reason to doubt that pure monotheism is at the start of almost every present day religion.

Islam pretends to be monotheistic and long before it, Judaism and Christianity were monotheistic. If anybody is interested in monotheism, the go to the original not this late invention called Islam.

Abuamam:
Very drole analogy. Good for laughing over coffee and biscuits. However, religion is quite different from language. English itself is an amalgamation of many different languages. The analogy could be more accurate if the original latinic language and the 'corrupted' modern latinic languages derived from it were to be compared in that sense.

My my, you still don't get it. Take an IQ test
A religion born in 500AD claims that ALL existing religions are corruptions of it, that it EXISTED long before ANY of them,and then it proceeds to borrow EVERYTHING from them.

And how does this religion 'prove' this preposterous claim? Strands of similarity between itself and the older religions

Abuamam speaks pidgin and he claims that is Allan's language revealed to him. It is the ONLY true language. Pointed to native English speakers before him, he insists they corrupted Allah's language and retained some words such as 'man'. So, where is proof that Englishmen once spoke pidgin? You won't find any seeing they corrupted it, all you get is corrupted pidgin which is English! Pidgin is the ORIGINAL and only True Language!

Ifeann you must be so longsuffering to put up with this BS

Abuamam:
All religions have borrowed from Islam. The example of circumnambulation could be one such action. Prostration in prayer was habitual in the extant OT. All these were Islamic practices that were belittled by Satan's instigation, when he made men to corrupt the true faith.

Mo found pagan Arabs worshipping rock and mindlessly he adopted it.
Abuamam, the English you converse with is borrowed from Englishmen who existed before you. This should be clear even to Labradors

Abuamam:
My statement was that IT IS VERY POSSIBLE that Hinduism is a corrupted form of Islam corrupted to an unrecognizable form as xtianity; and to a lesser extent; judaism were... still retaining some rites of the previous revealed faith of Islam in corrupted form. Now let us (not plural of trinity o) see what you people have to say.

Yeah, the same way a scroll is a corrupted form of an iPad Air; they are all flat

If you don't care, then don't ask. If you ask, then listen.
You have read all 3000years of written hindu history, in all different versions of Hinduism? You are a fraud. How would you know what aspects of Islam are written or not written therein?

What if I claim there is another planet full of men just like earth and when you aks for proof, I tell you just because you can't see it don't mean it don't exist? The burden of proof is on you to substantiate the claims of your god Allah. If she claims she gave Hindus Islam thousands of years before Mo', show it. We have thorough records of Hinduism dating back a few thousand years before Mo' was conceived. Telling us to ignore ALL that and concentrate on the 'unknown' is kind of ret@rded. It's like telling me that just because presently there is no scientific proof of the efficacy of camel piss, we should not ignore it because we don't possess all knowledge.

You know nothing about Hinduism and nothing about Islam, yet your comment claims authority over both... an expertise you just do not possess.

The little of Hinduism we know is enough to rule out any strand of Islam in it. On the contrary, it is more than enough to demonstrate Mo' shamelessly stole their pagan ideas

Yes, all monotheistic religions had their inception in Islam. Monotheist submission to the Almighty's Will and Decree; aka Islam; is the one pure faith. It started with Adam (as). I understand that it is hard for you to accept; seeing as you will have to jettison all your propagandized beliefs of Jesus dying on a cross to cleanse your original sin; and that it will create a strong jolt to your feelings of cognitive disonance. But you are not forced into any belief. God has given humans free will to use wisely or unwisely.

There is nothing ORIGINAL in Islam; Mo was not intelligent enough to craft any religion from scratch, he borrowed heavily from existing religions...

It is very possible that Brahma is another name for the Almighty as narrated by their prophets. It could also be another Name other than Brahma... I don't know, their scriptures are also unauthenticated, just like yours and even more so; since they are older. God Alone knows all His Names. Their prophets may be staring us in the face; but later became idolised and were worshipped as gods; just like the xtians did to the prophet Isa (as). In any case, knowledge of over a hundred thousand prophets' names has no beneficial influence over our ability to serve God.

Islam plagiarized existing religions

Lol. Your mouth seems to be full of trash, garbage etc. You cannot seem to speak a complete paragraph without spewing it out.

Am here to help you think

You would of course have to provide me with evidence that you were sent by the Almighty as a messenger. You would need an impeccable reputation for truth and honesty.

I laugh in Zulu

Your teachings would have to provide solutions for the ills of mankind when properly applied.

Sure, like taking camel piss

If you could fulfill all this criteria, then we would believe whatever you said after having accepted your credentials. Because God will not send a liar.



His purpose was the salvation of mankind and our return to paradise, through the provision of manuals for daily living, in line with the purpose of our creation. The corruption of His revealed books; and tenets of His religion was incited by Satan, in fulfilment of his promise to lead Adam's progeny into the same state of disobedience that his pride took him to. God permitted it, because the former scriptures were only meant to be temporary and were localised... eg when Jesus stated he was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel. However, because we are now nearing the end times, and peehaps because God knew that a single message could be more easily spread universally now than before, He sent a final message that He promised to preserve, as a final manual of salvation; indicating that all others were now null; since they had been totally corrupted by Satan anyway. The final message is the Quran. The final path to salvation lies in following its tenets.

The Quran says:

"And verily, We have sent among every community a Messenger proclaiming: "Worship Allah Alone, and avoid taghut (all false deities)." Then of them were some whom Allah guided and of them were some upon whom the straying was justified. So travel through the land and see what was the end of those who denied the truth. (Qur'ân 16:36)

More trash

Great....don't quit on me negro aight?

Here are some 2 fellas that may interest you
1 Timothy 1:20 King James Version (KJV)
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme

Don't blaspheme the name of YHWH and Jesus for nothing

sonOfLucifer:
I will always be here.

OK.
So are you resigning from NL, or are you just taking a break?

sonOfLucifer:
Life is a flat circle. All that is, will be. All that was, has been.

Are you all well? Hurting in ANY way?

Please my negro, share something you learnt from Ecclesiasites

sonOfLucifer:
It was the Book of Ecclesiastes that set me off on this journey. The wisdom in there is for all ages.

Even if you reduced g to 1 from the current 9.8, it would never get you 90ft men

A lower g would mean lower oxygen concentration for bigger animals.

Here are a few scenarios
https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/giant-human-like-30-to-90-ft-tall-possible-or-not.462615/


http://www.forestazuaron.com/2012/biology/macrobiology/physiology/plausible-giant-creatures/

EzioAuditore:
So you're a charlatan then? If you knew a single fact about the expanding earth theory then you'd know it has something to do with trying to explain the larger creatures that walked the earth before us. Like I said, barmy knob head! FOH!

Come up with more intelligent insults at the very least. Assaulting a lady is the epitome of being a sissy

EzioAuditore:
As I was reading through your post, the only thing that came to mind is that it takes one plug ugly Trollop to be this bitter. And judging by your post I'd say you're definitely a pillock, by every definition of the word. I was going to add that you're a Christian too but st*pid and christian go together so, it need not be said. Sassenach, nature really played a cruel trick on you.

Negro Neaanderthal,
Ever heard of square-cube Law?

EzioAuditore:
Allah Almighty Said: "We will show them Our signs in the Universe and inside their selves, until it will become quite clear to them that it is the truth. Is it not sufficient as regards your Lord that He is a witness over all things? (The Noble Quran, 41:53)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, created Adam in His own image with His length of sixty cubits, and as He created him He told him to greet that group, and that was a party of angels sitting there, and listen to the response that they give him, for it would form his greeting and that of his offspring. He then went away and said: Peace be upon you! They (the angels) said: May there be peace upon you and the Mercy of Allah, and they made an addition of" Mercy of Allah". So he who would get into Paradise would get in the form of Adam, his length being sixty cubits, then the people who followed him continued to diminish in size up to this day. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6809)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said, "Allah created Adam, making him 60 cubits tall. When He created him, He said to him, "Go and greet that group of angels, and listen to their reply, for it will be your greeting (salutation) and the greeting (salutations of your offspring." So, Adam said (to the angels), As-Salamu Alaikum (i.e. Peace be upon you). The angels said, "As-salamu Alaika wa Rahmatu-l-lahi" (i.e. Peace and Allah's Mercy be upon you). Thus the angels added to Adam's salutation the expression, 'Wa Rahmatu-l-lahi,' Any person who will enter Paradise will resemble Adam (in appearance and figure). People have been decreasing in stature since Adam's creation. (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 543)"

Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle said, "The first group of people who will enter Paradise, will be glittering like the full moon and those who will follow them, will glitter like the most brilliant star in the sky. They will not urinate, relieve nature, spit, or have any nasal secretions. Their combs will be of gold, and their sweat will smell like musk. The aloes-wood will be used in their centers. Their wives will be houris. All of them will look alike and will resemble their father Adam (in statute), sixty cubits tall." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 544)"

Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: "The first group of my Ummah to get into Paradise would be like a full moon in the night. Then those who would be next to them; they would be like the most significantly glittering stars in regard to brightness, then after them (others) in ranks. They would neither void excrement, nor pass water, nor suffer from catarrh, nor would they spit. And their combs would be made of gold, and the fuel of their braziers would be aloes and their sweat would be musk and their form would be the form of one single person according to the length of their father sixty cubits tall. This hadith has been transmitted on the authority of Ibn Abi Shaiba with a slight variation of wording. (Translation of Sahih Muslim, Book 040, Number 6796)"

Earths Expansion in the Quran:


[079:030] And the earth, moreover, hath He expanded;


Transliteration:

[079:030] Waal-arda baAAda thalika dahaha

Dahaha (دحاها) means expanded, made spherical, balanced, and caused to move.


Scientific proof:

After the earth's crust cooled off, and water began to form, and the moon was created from the ring of rocks that was encircling life, similar to the one we're in today, is estimated to have begun on earth around 3.8 billion years ago. Earth's age is estimated to be close to 4.6 billion years old.

"Low Gravity

Planets with gravities lower than .8 have the following effects on people experiencing this gravity (assuming the person is from an EWS world where gravity is 1.0):

Increased Strength (objects of the same mass weigh less, enabling muscles used to higher gravities to accelerate them quickly and more easily)
Reduced Dexterity (the muscles used to move the body for normal tasks are used to greater resistance, and therefore tend to overcompensate for motions)
Thinner Air (lower gravity can hold a smaller amount of air against a planet; NWP's such as Endurance or Running can offset this)
Increased Height (less weight means elastic supportive tissue can expand, resulting in a height increase; astronauts in 0 gravity have reported height increases of 1 inch or more)
..........

High Gravity

A humanoid body is better at handling lesser gravities than greater ones. Planets with gravities higher than 1.2 have the following effects on people experiencing this gravity (assuming the person is from an EWS world where gravity is 1.0):

Decreased Strength (objects of the same mass weigh more, requiring more effort to move them)
Reduced Dexterity (the muscles used to move the body for normal tasks are used to less resistance, and therefore tend to undercompensate for motions)
Decreased Height (more weight means elastic supportive tissue is compressed more, resulting in a height decrease)"

Example:
Since there is no (or little) gravity in space the bones of the astronauts are less squashed together. The astronauts, therefore, do gain a bit of height due to this fact." (Source)

According to scientists The earth was much smaller (estimated it was only 10% its current size) and kept expanding:

The fact that earth had far larger, taller and heavier creatures on it (dinosaurs and others) proves that it was a much smaller planet. As scientists confirmed, the smaller the planet, the lesser its gravity and the larger and taller its creatures will be.


Therefore, it should be of no conflict with science to claim that Adam's size, or man's initial size on earth in general, was in the neighborhood of 90 feet tall, or that the first human-race ever walked on earth was around 90 feet tall, give or take 10 to 20 feet between the creatures' differences in heights as we today have people as tall as 7 feet and as short as 2 feet tall. The reason for this is simply because the planet earth was much smaller than what it is now.

Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, said that Adam, peace be upon him, was around 90 feet tall when he lived on earth. This goes in perfect harmony with the fact that earth used to be much much smaller, which no one knew this fact at the time of the Prophet, and that it kept growing.

Garbage.
You don't care about the prophets sent before but you care enough to tell us they were sent? What's the point?

Supposing I woke up in 2015 and dismissed ALL existing and past religions as corruption of the true religion which Allah has just revealed to me. You'd have to be equally ret@rded like me to believe me

You suggest corruption of your god's religion served his purpose? What purpose did it serve?

Adam was the first Muslim?

Say (O Muhammad): Lo! I am commanded to worship Allah, making religion pure for Him (only). And I am commanded to be the first of those who are muslims (surrender unto Him). S. 39:11-12

Abuamam:
The prophet (saw) has told us that more than a hundred thousand prophets and messengers have been sent to individual communities of people. Their names are neither important nor beneficial, and I do not want to speculate. We know that initially, the Hindu religion was monotheistic, and the 'higher' class of brahmans still consider polytheism to be the religion of the lower classes.

Ref. Wikipedia on Hindu views on monotheism.



You are always trying to insinuate what I did not say, into my comments. Allah did not ERASE anything; people corrupted their own scriptures, as even a cursory look at bible history will easily prove. Allah merely did not Will to protect past scriptures from corruption, since He knew that they were only meant for a certain time and place. The Hindu religion itself is not a single view or belief. There are literally hundreds of different creeds and views, all encompassed within the term 'Hindu'.

Adam (as); the father of mankind; was the first Muslim.

Abuamam will tell you that Allah somewhat ERASED all evidence of these fictitious prophets, left us with a rich historical legacy of Indian religion minus the primitive version of Islam

Who was the FIRST Muslim?

dalaman:
Please csn you give us the name of any of the prophets that was sent to the Indians? Remember we have st least 4000 years of uninterrupted written history from the Indians and all the religions they have been practicing. Tell us the name of one of the prophets that eas sent by Allah to the Indians lets check and see if it agrees with their thousands of yeats of written history.

I would gladly teach you logic as soon as you grow a brain

Empiree:
No darling. Alex worshiped what you also worship now, pagan

Hallelujah
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Abuamam:
Alexander the great was a pagan. I did not say he is a Muslim.

I should now school you in your religion? Surah 18:89-98

Islam teaches us that its practice has been in existence in one form or the other, since the creation of mankind.

It also teaches that Camel piss is natural cancer cure
Listen negro, Islam may claim anything but it's claims don't stand to logic. If it is the oldest religion, there should be EVIDENCE of its existence. I just threw you a bone and you fell for it.

If I told you Moses had a white iPad Air 64GB, what would you aks me first? How comes seeing iPad Air is barely 2 years young (2013 October) ? But I respond by claiming that Apple is simply reinventing something Allah had given Moses thousands of years ago. You persist, where is the evidence of Allah giving Moses an iPad Air or Moses possessing one? I tell you that ALL evidence got lost but thousands of years after Moses, Allah has reminded us that he gave Moses an iPad Air.

In short Islam a religion of ret@rds can ONLY support its revisionism INTERNALLY.

I understand your pain; seeing as xtianity cannot make any claims beyond Saul/Paul.

Christianity predates Paul, it was started by Lord Jesus Christ, was founded on Judaism, it is the only system based on reason and logic.

The facts however, remain facts; "though the disbelievers hate it". Calling the comment 'illogical', detracts nothing from its truth.

Islam can't stand reason. That's why your family would probably kill you should you recant. It is a religion of fear

Islam was the first religion on earth.

And there is EVIDENCE of EVERY other religion that has ever existed before 500AD except Islam. In my life I never thought I'd ever run into a grown up making such asinine claims

Any other religions (including xtianity), can only be Satan-corrupted practices of the true faith.

Allah must be a weakling to allow obliteration of ANY evidence of her beloved religion for thousands of years not to mention corruption of the same. Which begs the question, how sure are you whatever she revealed to Mo' is not corrupted? Has she suddenly acquired some abilities to preserve the Truth, something she lacked for all those thousands of years as man was being deceived by Satan who Abraham beat with stones?

Do you ever think before posting?
When Allah is cornered stealing pagan rituals, it is pagans who perverted the true religion and she/he is just restoring it.
When Allah is cornered DISTORTING, defiling and rewriting history with blatant lies such as Alexander the Great being Muslim, this is 'factual' only that it was totally lost (zero prior historical records ) of the same and he/she is now revealing it.

So whether you cook and distort history or you plagiarize paganism, you are always right

You may as well tell us that Mohammed was the original iPad manufacturer and Steve Jobs merely REDISCOVERED them

Ifeann, abeg come and breath some sense into this primate

Abuamam:
If the Hindus have a similar custom, then I can only commend them on perhaps retaining a memory of part of the true religion of Islam that they were taught through the prophets previously sent to them by the Almighty; and exhorting them to accept the total way of life brought by the final prophet of Islam (saw).
.

BS

Ovacoma:
Islam is built around kaaba, hundreds of thousands go around it every year, millions face and bow to it each day, their dead bodies must face mecca when buried. Allah lives in there, the black stone they love, kiss, caress, worship and bow to is in there, yet, Muslims have no full idea of the origin of this shrine! Pathetic!

Abeg they know the origin, only they are too embarrassed to admit to inheriting it from pagans

Goshen360:
This vooks guy bad ooo....

Hi Goshen360

Try some thinking.
Is there any mention of Abraham traveling to Mecca ANYWHERE outside and before Quran?

Allah was a not so clever fiction writer


Cc Ifeann

truthman2012:
Abraham, Hagar and Ishmael Movement to Mecca

Ibn Abbas narrated:

"... Ibrahim brought her (Hajrah) and her son, Ismail while she was suckling him, to a place near the
Kaaba under a tree on the spot of Zam-Zam, at the highest place in the mosque. During those days there was nobody in Makkah, nor was there any water. So he made them sit over there and placed near them a leather bag containing some dates, and a small water-skin containing some water, and set out homeward. [/b]Ismail's mother followed him saying: "O Ibrahim! [b]Where are you going,
leaving us in this valley where there is no person whose company we may enjoy,
nor is there anything (to enjoy)?" She repeated that to him many times, but he did not look back at her.
Then she asked him: "Has Allah ordered you to do so?" He said: "Yes". She said: "Then He will not
neglect us." and she returned (to her child) while Ibrahim proceeded on his way.
On reaching the Thaniya (mountain) where they could not see him, Ibrahim faced the Kaaba, and raising
both hands, invoked Allah saying the following prayer:

"O our Lord! I have made some of my offspring to dwell in a valley without cultivation, by Thy Sacred
House; in order, O our Lord, that they may establish regular Prayer: so fill the hearts of some among
men with love towards them, and feed them with fruits: so that they may give thanks." [Surah Ibrahim 14 :37]..." [Sahih Bukhari Book# 55, Hadith# 583]

The salient points here are:

1. Abraham led Hagai and her son, Ishmael to Mecca and went back to Israel by allahh's order without looking back.
At that time there was nobody, no building, nothing was on ground. Since Abraham left immediately without looking back by allah's order, how can it be justified that he stayed there to build Kaaba. He had to stay there to be able to build Kaaba because Ishmael who joined him in the building was still sucking at the time.

2. Abraham could not have gone back to Mecca, having been ordered by allahh not to look back.

3. Quran confirms there was no messenger in Mecca prior to the coming of Muhammad: But We had not given them Books which they could study, nor sent messengers to them before thee as Warners ([Quran 34:44]). It means Abraham was a prophet (messenger), not in Arabia but Israel.

Therefore Kaaba could not have built by Abraham who was not there, but Meccan pagans for their idols. Why did Muhammad convert it to house of alllahh if he (allahh) was not an idol.

ayoku777:
The verse you quoted was after Jesus rose from the dead. When He became the first begotten from the dead; the firstborn of the dead.

Before that time Jesus was already the begotten son.

I don't follow your logic; how/why do you conclude that this verse is pointing to his resurrection? Walk me through your reasoning

John 3v16 -For God so loved the world, that He sent His only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.

See this scripture? Jesus was the begotten Son of God even before He came into the world.

I reluctantly agree but it still don't explain what begotten is

To be begotten means you have an origin, a source. You didn't come out of nowhere. Only the Father is source-less.

This would make much sense if ONLY Jesus originated from the Father. We all did so why is he called the ONLY BEGOTTEN?

Yessir.
Earthquakes are basically vibrations, powerful ones and they shake buildings. Because tall buildings have a higher center of gravity, they may fall over or lose their structural integrity due to the shaking and collapse. Collapses as opposed to tipping are more common though.

This is why during earthquakes you are advised to step out of buildings.

loomer:
Bless u bro, which means I have a better chance of surviving if I am out on the streets

What is 'begotten'? Is it an event with a definite starting point?
Psalm 2:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Hebrews 1:5 (KJV)
For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee?


Use this verse as a reference point

ayoku777:
The same way the Word was begotten of the Father is the same way the new creation was begotten of the Word.

So if you want to say "being begotten" means you have existed as long as the person who begat you; then it means that the new creation too has existed in Christ from eternity past.

Because the new creation is begotten of the Word as the Word was begotten of the Father.

Jesus wasn't begotten when He came into the world, He was begotten of the Father at the very beginning.

This is what I need Ayoku clarifying

ayoku777:
I think it just means the Father is the Alpha God. The God that begat all other Gods; including Jesus.

kay1one2:
Jesus came from the substance of the Father. All in One same time as God Himself. More like Jesus has always been with the Father from the beginning as a part of Him. We on the other hand were created. We existed from the beginning of time in the mind of the Father but had a period when we were created and brought into being. Jesus however has always being with the Father as a spontaneous product of God's manifestation.

Most deaths are by buildings collapsing. Avoid buildings, your best chances are in the open.

loomer:
i wan ask this question o, and i beg make una wey know book pass me tell me.

na where be the safest place to stay/hide wen earthquake de happen.

i wan know o, to be on a safe side.

In summary,
1. Christianity has TWO Gods.
2. Jesus was begotten just like us...he has a beginning


Unresolved
If the Father is the ONLY TRUE GOD, what kind of God is Jesus?
Was Jesus CREATED?

ayoku777:
Technically, and deductively speaking; christianity has two Gods that are worshipped. Jesus and His God and Father; the Father.

But scripturally speaking and according to Jesus, the Father is the only true God.

John 17v3 -And this is eternal, that they might know thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

So according to Jesus, the Father is the only true God; even though Jesus himself is also God (John 1v1).

And looking at it, that is true; because every other person called God are those begotten of the Father.

So the Father is the only true God, or Alpha God, if you will.

Now, Jesus calling the Father, "The only true God"; doesn't make Jesus a false God or a "no god". That will equally be contrary to scripture.

I think it just means the Father is the Alpha God. The God that begat all other Gods; including Jesus.