italo: It is easy for any iddiot to say "catholicism is certified paganism" or "Protestantism/pentecostal is certified paganism" without a logical explanation.
But what thinking humans do is explain their claims.
Necromancy as we have already established is satanism and witchcraft but is a key doctrine in Catholicism. Idolatry is another.
Little wonder Revelation calls Catholicism Babylon the Great H@rlot
plaetton: You speak my mind, ..only better. This is the same thing I try to tell christians in my extended family.
As long as humans have unfulfilled desires and needs ( whether it's health, wealth or love) , they will always suffer. As such, any religion that promises to defy man's intrinsic nature is obviously a fraud.
Again, it should be stressed that How you live your life is what matters, not what you believe or place your faith upon.
Amateur Septic(sic), get a mind of your own you intellectual parasite
Pavore9: Laughing..your cancelling does not invalidate my Catholic faith, the phone/laptop you are using are not made by your church members but people who do not know Christ thus you pay "pagans" to use their goods!
HCpaul: I love the way you designed your stupidity.
TB Joshua ain't forcing anybody to have the faith bracelet. Infact, he was even admonishing those having it to make effective frugal use of it.
The concepts of the faith bracelet was anchored by the theory of meditation. The idea was eventually spakulated by the insight of what relating with christ really implies. He accentuate that a relationship must not be one eye sided. This means that a relationship will not be effective if christians don't perform any interaction in the spirit realm.
To achieve that, the act of meditation must be taken place. This recollected back individuals to the holy book of Joshua 1:8 Meditation brings revelation, and it is the deapest sphere of spirituality.
Meditation stabalize your relationship with Christ, and also retain you constant to be spiritually alert.
Before he invented the material aiding object coined "Faith Bracelet" which would eventually ignite the actuallization of meditation in God's word. He was a man constantly interacting with his heart (synonymous with spirit) which he claimed that it was the greatest elevation in progressive spiritual growth and stable relationship with Christ.
The words to say during the act of constant meditation was rounded up as:
"Give me more of you and take more of me."
This can be streched and expressed as give me more of your strenght and take more of my weakness. This is because we are full of ourselves which is the ultimate cause of our spiritual downfall.
He provided the faith bracelet to aid christians worldwide to participate in the corresponding act of meditation. This is because of his wide and enormous knowledge and insight on the existing fact that humanity will be very weak and fragile to stagnate the corresponding act achieved in the concieved world of a man (the heart).
The level of meditation he was preparing partners for is to aid them to be speaking to God and at the same time speaking with neighbours. He claimed that since the medium for the communication is different.
To initially and easily achieve that, we need something on the outside to keep reminding us of maintaining and retaining the frequency of the celestial. An average human being is familiar with his/her smart phone, laptops and other electronic gadgets and appliances. To abruptly switch from the natural realm to the spiritual realm, or to be constantly maintaining an unending interaction with Jesus may seems impossible, unless been influenced with an adaptive object or material on the outside.
After maturity and adaptation progress has been established, a partaker is liable to detach and ignore the object once an adequate capability has been developed.
And the mode of using the faith bracelet is even different from the religious people. He noted that: "Religious people counts with their hand and speak with their heart, while a spiritual candidates count with their hand but speak with their heart."
The heart is the communication point between God and man.
The man is only trying to help young christians grow, since his life and personality is a vivid example of spirituality and christ personality.
The faith bracelet may also be synonymous with Paul's Mantle, Moses Rod, Peter's Shadow, Anointing oil, and Christ healing with sand.
In adhession with the apostolic mandates, the bishopric position, and ancient prophets, TB Joshua is the last day order of prophet and the apostle of our generation.
This is how i rated him.
- He is the most percecuted man of God all over the world. He himself even declared it.
- He is one of the most gifted prophet in terms of spiritual gift, prophecy actualization and fulfillment, and miracles.
- His sermon rested on the standards of the apostles.
- His life and personality is a picture of Christ on earth.
- The extension of his ministry to giving (charity), loving, economic developments, youth upbringing, scholarship, and lots more.
So, am not surprise when people hate him for all the good deeds that he is doing. That is what keep validating him in my heart as a true prophet of God, because Peter suffered the same, Paul suffered the same, Jeremiah and Joseph also suffered the same, and likewise other great prophets and apostles in the bible and history.
Even Jesus stated that the world hate light because their deeds is evil continually.
How will you like the faith bracelet when you know that your secrete deeds will be uncovered and you will be delivered.
You like the idea and the invention of android, windows, nairaland, and other advanced and expensive technological gadgets, but you hate a faith bracelet.
The bible instructed that we should put on the whole harmour of God.
Am not trying to educate you on spirituality and the faith bracelet, but instead using this opportunity to oblidge you to meditate on God's word that goes beyond the logos & rema of the word.
ayoku777: Under the old covenant, angels did interceed for man.
Matthew 18v10 -Take heed that ye despise not one of these little ones; for I say unto you, That in heaven their angels do always behold the face of my Father which is in heaven.
Exactly how is this intercession for men?
But that was because under the law, angels were the primary mediators of the old covenant. They were the disposers and ordainers of the law.
Acts 7v53 - Who have received the law by the disposition of angels, and have not kept it.
Galatians 3v19 -Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
But now, under the new covenant, we have a new mediator -Jesus Christ, the Son of God and Son of man.
1Tim 2v5 -For there is one God, and ONE mediator between God and men, the man CHRIST JESUS;
We no longer need the intercession of angels or even of saints in heaven on behalf of the saints on earth. We have the intercession of Jesus Christ, the Son of God. And that is as good as it gets.
Romans 8v34 -Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
And there is indeed no new testament account of angels or heavenly saints interceeding for saints on earth. Neither are we encouraged in any epistle as believers to solicit for the prayers of angels or of heavenly saints.
The intercession of Jesus for us in heaven and the prayers of fellow believers on earth is all the new covenant allows.
Infact, we are not even told to ask Jesus to pray for us; He does that on His own, whether we ask or not, as our High priest and mediator. We only ask for the prayers of fellow believers on earth.
Ephesians 6v18 - Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
v19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
2Cor 1v11 - Ye also helping together by prayer for us, that for the gift bestowed upon us by the means of many persons thanks may be given by many on our behalf.
Phillipians 1v19 -For I know that this shall turn to my salvation through your prayer, and the supply of the Spirit of Jesus Christ,
Soliciting the prayers of angels or of heavenly saints is heresis and extra-scriptural under the new covenant.
italo: The word of God says "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with you, blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb."
I will listen to it.
Mary may have been all that but...... Luke 11:28 (KJV) And it came to pass, as he spake these things, a certain woman of the company lifted up her voice, and said unto him, Blessed is the womb that bare thee, and the paps which thou hast sucked. 28 But he said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.
PastorAIO: Okay, if she needs attention what is wrong with giving it to her. Everybody needs attention. There will be a reason why she is seeking attention.
frank317: Young man, stop acting like someone with no training. When u behave like this reasonable people will easily assume your parents molested u as a kid. The poster does not believe in your non existent God hence is frustrated because of his father's belief which is obviously delaying treatment.
Dont indirectly call his father names. Stop being a fool. Your nonsense is getting out of hand.
The mentally unstable is not the father but the m0ron he sired
-If God does not heal his father by end of year, he is a fairy -if God does not give him a job he is nonexistent - if God does not reduce his melanin, he is impotent -if God does not make the gal who dumped him come back begging, he is a fraud -if God does not construct him a house, he is fiction -if -if
Jadonjack: Really?! Why not pray to your god to visit your parent with the exact illness as my dad and let's see what hapns to yu in just few weeks
The difference between me and you is I have a brain and I won't call my parents FOOLS in front of cheering strangers. You have severe esteem issues kid. Are you a teenager?
Jadonjack: I wonder who is the tantrum here now. Instead of looking for a way to convince your god to get me some proof of his existence by healing my father, you are ere defending him cos I gave him ultimatum.
What will it cost a loving father to heal his son unless of course he doesn't exist
Buffoon One would argue that vehicle manufacturers don't exist because of a car wreck
PastorAIO: Why are you all so heartless? And you're supposed to be christians. I don't know, but someone here is reaching out in honest need, and it is attitudes like the above that probably a big part of the problem.
Crybabies are addicted to attention, they live for it. If you believe the bullsh*t on NL you probably need to have whatever little that is between your head recalibrated
frank317: Lol.. And you fail to see that everything you and your cohorts have been saying only shows a God who is manipulated by tantrums. Of not, why should what the young man says bring about your sick responses. You have a sick parent, and you are coping well. Good. How does that affect how another person feels about his own situation? What makes u think everyone must respond to issues ur way? What makes you think the two situations are identical? Ask yourself... How does his tantrums affect your God? If your know it does not affect your God, why are u reacting otherwise?
He is mentally unstable. Who calls his father a FOOL in front of strangers. Primitive Negro
frank317: Of course that is the best u can do. Someone is saying his dad is I'll and you are asking for his manhood. I am quite sure u believe he deserves having a sick dad just because he does not believe in your God. Of course you are meant to fight for your God. Get angry on his behalf, and all that. But you fail to see that the OP's frustration is because your supposedly almighty and all loving God has failed once again. He had proven his non existence as usual. But of course we have you who exists to fight on be half of your idea.
I have a chronically sick parent but you won't catch me dead having infantile fits in front of strangers. This Neanderthal needs to quit being a sissy. He is feeding off your fake sympathy, am certain he feels very much loved by your sh*tty advice.
You need to grow a brain if you imagine God is manipulated by tantrums
While the media eye remains set on the Middle East, focused as it were on the long litany of horrors which have streamed out of the region, Africa too has witnessed more than its fair share of violence, bloodshed and acts of senseless terror. The forgotten victim of Wahhabi-inspired radicalism, Nigeria stands besieged by powers which have disguised themselves as legitimate, the avant-grade of an ideological plague which seeks a complete re-engineering of Africa’s religious map.
But if the African continent has failed so far to generate a media frenzy on account, and Western powers have offered little by way of political interest, we ought to pay close attention to Nigeria’s ongoing crisis as it appears the vassals of the Black Flag army have now infiltrated the military to better weave themselves within the region’s power dynamics.
Nigeria it needs to be said is home to one of the most brutal denominations of Wahhabi-terrorism: Boko Haram. Although Ilsamic State (ISIS) might from a distance epitomize terror’s irrational taste for bloodletting, this one homegrown African radical faction has claimed to its name more deaths than ISIS, al-Qaeda, or any other Wahhabi outfits ever did in their years of rampage.
analice107: @Nymbrada, God bless you for your kind words.
Jonnydon is my project. if he has you also going after him, then the guy is up on ropes.
The devil wants him, but I want him more.
As for this Op, I don't have any patience for his kind. can you imagine him giving the Only Potentate an ultimatum? Something he can't do to me, if I were his senior sister, talk less of his good Dad. what makes me so angry is that, if dis guy will be sincere to tell his age, he'll just be a teenager who came to Nairaland and saw rebels (because they are not atheist), bashing their maker, so thought it wise to join.
I will go for evangelism, I'll preach the gospel, but won't beg u to accept Christ, know why? am doing u a favour, not the other way round.
Jodanjack, get lost. Jehovah doesn't need you to complete His Godhead. If its time for your wonderful father to go home, he will go, and nothing can u or all the atheists in Nairaland do abt it. stupid.
The longer I stay on NL the more I learn that most of these are overgrown babies who crave for attention. This m0ron is one of them who would gladly sell his father for a morsel of bread.
Am still waiting for proof of his manhood, else he is a hermaphrodite
Genesis 47:33-34 (KJV) And it shall come to pass, when Pharaoh shall call you, and shall say, What is your occupation? 34 That ye shall say, Thy servants' trade hath been about cattle from our youth even until now, both we, and also our fathers: that ye may dwell in the land of Goshen; for every shepherd is an abomination unto the Egyptians.
One characteristic of Egyptians is that EVERY SHEPHERD (pastor/minister) in an abomination regardless of what they do or don't.
PastorOluT: Hmm, ok as the scriptures makes us realize no sins is too big for God to forgive. But consider this scripture to ur answer, 'the Son of man goes as it is written, but woe unto him that betray Him for it would have been better if he was never born'( loose translation)
That is no different from saying the wicked and the rebellious will end up in the lake of fire. None of that nullifies the fact that IF they repented, they would not end up there
your hypocrisy is alarming you know. Last time i checked, you left Christianity for new age only to go back again. Who seems to be more confused now? Your contributions are clearly not needed on this thread. if you're gonna bitch about serious issues such as this one then kindly exit the thread.
Even Jesus went through trials and tribulations, so if you're taking pride in demeaning people because of their struggles it goes to say you're immature.
Get real people to stand by you, either you are a high school kid or an overgrown baby, who else throws a pity bash online?
Extreme Pentecostalism such as SCOAN or MFM is for the mentally unstable. Millerz is a perfect example
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Millerz: at MFM we don't pray for human beings to die. we pray for powers to die. Our battle is a spiritual one, not physical. Also we pray for yokes of delay, depression etc to die. under no account do we pray for human (witch or wizard) to die.
Millerz: you're deceiving yourself and every other person you come across. I been watching T.B Joshua since I was about 4or 5. .
like the "euphoric feeling" my uncle got when the hole in his heart disappeared after he was prayed for by a pastor, or the same "euphoric feeling" when a cousin of a family friend of mine was healed from insanity by God through prophet TB Joshua.
Or was it my friend who I very well knew when ulcer almost claimed his life, only to be healed fter being prayed for by prophet TB Joshua? One who had already been booked for surgery, only to go back to the hospital for check up after prayers to be told that the ulcer was no more?
Versus this;
Millerz: why isn't Jesus fighting for me nor answering any of my prayers?
Let the kid alone, she will grow up some day and mature spiritually enough to steer clear of attacking Igbos
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