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So trapQ apart from being a serial m0ron and a certified board SCOANITE is a cheeky attention seeker?

Gal, you need counseling

KingEbukasBlog:
Another epistle for me ? Aww . But honestly , I cant deal with your naive misconceptions and misinterpretations . The unbelief in a creator HAS NEVER made anyone rational or intelligent . Go cogitate deeply and come back with something worth paying attention to .

Antitheists are rebels without cause, just like teenagers

oyeludef:
d spirit of a believer belongs to d Holy Spirit and as He wills, He can use it. Looking at the cases of Prophets in d old testament, d Spirit of God transported them at His will to show them things. You sighted d case of ezekiel nd severally in d book of ezekiel u see God telling Ezekiel to do something e.g speak to dry bones e.t.c. I don't know of cases in d new testament to support this though.

In Ezekiel's case, both the dry bones and the temple were visions. The Temple had an element of time travel as the temple was nonexistent by when he saw the vision.

Methinks God revealing to you stuff happening elsewhere as with Elisha and Gehazi is very possible and has scriptural backing, but moving your spirit and making you participate in physical events elsewhere is a whole new ballgame. Philip was not moved spiritually, his whole being was transported to Azotus so this example will not count.

Joseph had a dream involving his siblings but the dream was for a yet future time so it had no literalism

destinedtee:
I see two issues here... 1. Seeing ministers as deliverance ministers in dreams. 2. Having a burden to pray for someone and u later discover the person was in trouble at almost the same time the burden of prayer was laid on u.

I want to talk about the second issue first : Sir, I believe its very possible to have a burden to pray for a particular person. There are times you may not even know who or what you are to even pray about (This is when praying in tongues come in). I want to refer you to this book by Kenneth Hagin - TONGUES BEYOND THE UPPER ROOM. There are different experiences shared in that book to buttress this assertion of mine. They are not just saying those things to cajole or motivate us to intercession. It's real sir.

Concerning seeing ministers of God in dreams... Well, I believe that is possible too. It might not necessarily have to do with deliverance anyway. The key thing here sir is what the Lord is trying to pass across to you as dreams cannot be interpreted literally sometimes. About seeing them as deliverance ministers, I don't have any experience along that line but I have seen some of them in my dreams and its a clue for me.

I await others to shed more light on this issue...

Thank you for your insight.
The question is really whether God can or does use spirits of men literally in the spirit world to say wage war.
My humble opinion is no.

We have heard of occult and witchcraft where spirits of the wicked leave the bodies and travel afar and affect the living. Do spirits of believers leave their bodies under any circumstances, travel and say wrought deliverance or fight for other believers?

Ezekiel was transported in the spirit from Babylon to Israel where he witnessed men he could recognized defiling the temple. Now am talking of spirits not only being transported but being used to wage war and protect other believers

AllNaijaBlogger:



Let me put your crap on hold.


I really want to trash kingebukasblog. That guy is annoying

If you can't withstand wisdom, it helps trashing it

ifenes:
You might be one ugly loser hiding behind a computer screen,trying to boost your self esteem.

By educating primitive neanderthal Negroes who worship biracial so for their lower melanin?

AllNaijaBlogger:



Does this question answer my question?

More than that

Jadonjack:
Do you even think of what to write before you start typing?! Yu call this fame?! SMH

Attention seeking

plappville:
You are right, If it was really sin, Paul wouldn't ve mentioned it or he would ve mentioned it in a negetively.
Thanks and God bless u.

Seldom do scriptures employ analogies of detestable things to communicate a point. In fact I think they don't

Look at all Jesus' parables; whenever they were teaching DOs, they used positive activities and whenever they taught DON'Ts they used negative experience.

In Malachi 1, YHWH is saying that even earthly kings don't receive such wretched giving.

So Paul in my opinion would have greatly erred in employing the then paganism-laced sporting events in his analogies if at the same time he was strongly persuaded it was against God to participate in them.

In short, from Paul's usage of the contemporary sports, we learn that at least he was not opposed to them.

Image123:
Sport is basically entertainment, a pastime, competitive activity. Bible says "Rom 14:20  For meat destroy not the work of God. All things indeed are pure; but it is evil for that man who eateth with offense. "+Titus 1v15. It depends on your spiritual understanding and situation. Some things are not sin but may be wrong, and may cause others to sin. It is wrong not to keep to time, ti may be a sin or not a sin depending. God sees our hearts and weighs ALL our works. nevertheless, we should not live without concern for others, or satisfy our flesh, or abuse our use of the world. Whatsover we do, we should do all to the glory of God. That something is called sport/entertainment does not mean it's good. Gambling is sport to some, playing lotto is, strip dancing is, swallowing knives, r.omancing snakes, these are all sports. Almost anything can be made a sport.
Jdg 16:27  Now the house was full of men and women; and all the lords of the Philistines were there; and there were upon the roof about three thousand men and women, that beheld while Samson made sport.


1Corinth 7:31  And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
We as believers are not to love the world, or the things that are in the world, just as someone else earlier posted.

Whatever we meet in this world should be held with'loose hands'. i.e We should be willing to drop them anytime, no matter how much we enjoy them. that should be our attitude to the world and its system.

Love God, love your neighbour as yourself. That simplehard command takes out competition, doesn't it. 'Cause if you truly loved your neighbour as yourself you would not want him to lose, or be hit, as you don't want to lose or be hit. So how the heavens do you win in sport? Take it as a sport, not 'do or die', out of my way, all i care is to win attitude, regardless of what happens to other competitors. Now, that's very hard, maybe humanly impossible to achieve. So we might both be involved in something(a 'good sport'), and my heart may be different from your heart. God sees both hearts, we see two sport men. Whatsover we do, we should do all to the glory of God. If there's a way possible for Judo, wrestling, boxing, gambling etc would glorify God. How it can be possible, if it is possible, by all means, then do it.

Image123,
The bolded is a bit funny.
Sports are not the only competitive events you participate in; applying for jobs is another where you work hard and pray to beat other applicants.

Another one is promotion. You may not wish your colleagues to lose but by praying you move into a competitive position, you are exactly doing that.

Education too, especially in scholarships. You really want to win at others' expense

Even in business. If you set up your business and pray for customers to come your way, you really pray they leave their current preferred sellers for you.

And isn't courtship itself competitive? When you are attracted to a lady and approach her, are you not wishing or praying she abandons all other interested blokes and accepts you?

It's all about demand and supply basics. When supply for anything valuable is low, we compete increasing the demand. Not all get the scarce item. This is an acceptable principle of life

In short, I think this is the weakest argument against sports; that there can't be love in competition.

Cc plapville

AllNaijaBlogger:
Ohh!

Evolution is pseudoscience?


Please, how did human beings arrive on this planet? We were moulded from clay? Taken from a rib?

I would like to know.

How did this WRX 'arrive' on earth? Did it erupt from a volcano?

OShepherd:
Hey fellas in d house! How important, necessary or is it a must 4 U 2 get an approval b4 getting married? Serious minds's contributions pls!

The reason you seek 'consent' or counsel is because others have gone ahead of you and their collective experience is invaluable.

About your pastor, what role does he serve in your life?

You got your 15 minutes of fame on NL over your sick dad

ifenes:
You don't even have a picture. I wonder what you look like

Why do you care how I look like, are you gay m0ron?

AllNaijaBlogger:
Education and religion?

If I ask you what you believe about human evolution right now, you will be coming up with all manner of moronic creationist hogwash.


Please, spare me your half baked logic

Brainwashing is what makes you dread questioning pseudoscience of so called evilution

sonOfLucifer:
Apology from vooks is necessary at this point so the bashing can continue with a little bit more decency.

You are right my negro, I mistook his twin sister ifenes for him.

Once again Amateur Septic(sic) I apologize for mistaking you for your deranged m0ron sister ifenes. It is her I should really apologize to, I defamed her for equating such a lowlife to her

frank317:
Your dad obviously does not love your mum. Must you tell the whole world?

PSYCHOanalyst, do you have to display your idiocy for all and sundry? Is that like the latest internet challenge?

plaetton:
That's why I say that you should think properly before speaking ( in this case, posting ).

Renowned philosopher and mathematician, Pythagoras, enjoined his students to always watch their speech, for nothing betrays a person than hasty speech( in this case , knee-jerk postings).

I hope you have learned something today.

I can't say the same for vooks, for his cranial cavity is already calcified with toxic wastes.

Sorry m0ron for mistaken identity

KingEbukasBlog:
hey bro vooks , it was ifeness that brought up the pretty girl thingy who dumped him after a while and you mocked him for it - he tried using it to boost his masculine ego , no its not plaetton

Ok.
Thank you

CoolUsername:
Yo, we were having a debate the other day and when you started losing, you pvssied out. But when it comes to insults you're good. So either grow up or grow a pair of cojones and see a debate to the end.

Negro,
You'd do well to show me where, otherwise slither back to wherever crevice you came from

plaetton:
Pls pls kingebukasblog, kindly quote me where on Nairaland I ever mentioned that I was dumped by any girl.

Are you two idiots not referring to someone else, perhaps ?

NL is a sh*tty forum/board but I will do my best and share it right here. That is if you are worth my while sucka

KingEbukasBlog:
The ass licker is here ... Menshah insulted my mum three fuc.king times the other day ... No atheist said no shi.t ... Ifeness insulted vooks' dad ... No one bat an eye ...

I'm not on any one's side , I just want to know if your stomach is full with so much atheists' ass licking

Am reading plaetton and somewhat he had to tell the entire world that he was dumped by a biracial goddess, Half English-half Carribean girl and how she was busy looking for him. Am not interested in this neanderthal's imaginary family, I just felt like reminding his this is a public forum and he should watch his proboscis

Antitheists have a field day insulting everyone and am mighty glad to return the favor as I drill some much badly needed sense into their thick heads

AllNaijaBlogger:
What does his wife have to do with the discussion?

Good question

plaetton:
My friend, you are reaching the lowest levels of your depravity by making reference to my family.

I urge you to sober up and step away from that path.

Even though I get a lot of thrills from mocking religiotards like you, I don't take anything personal.

I mock you , your intellectual emptiness , simply because I need to show African youth that they can and should do better than you at thinking.

It's a thankless job, but drag me to the gutter, where o assume, your domiciled


So, jokes apart, I am not your kindergarten mate.
Don't ever make reference to my family.

Am not guilty for regaling the world with your biracial ex/wife.

Go hang

You are nothing but an amateur buffoon. I have a job of transforming you into a respectable antitheist so help me God

plaetton:
Lol.

I am sure you did a lot of cherrypicking to find a 2001 article by a little known outfit, full of anecdotal conjectures to fit your barely thought out beliefs.

Here , I present you with a more recent article by The Economist magazine based a 2014 studies.

Please read it in it's entirety, because it confirms every point I made on my post.

http://www.economist.com/news/international/21623712-how-education-makes-people-less-religiousand-less-superstitious-too-falling-away.

Read the NBER article. This is no magazine but a scholarly article. Hope you know the difference.

Am I the only one who noticed how long it has take to furious over work your sole underworked neuron and Google to arrest your hoof-in-mouth malady?

Religiosity and education studies are over 50 years young. There are tons of evidence for/against this which serves my point; it is INCONCLUSIVE. Am not your mother nor your hallucinatory biracial ex/wife so I won't spoon feed you, follow the extensive citations in that article and confirm what it is saying.

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I wish to invite us to discuss the agency of human spirits in deliverance. Are they a genuine experience or demonic?
Without naming names, I have heard of ministries with notoriety of testimonies of many of how their MoG appeared to them in their dream and delivered them from sicknesses, oppression and so forth.

There is a story I have heard of an evangelist/missionary who came to Africa who fell into trouble and was almost dying. In a trance he saw 7 men come and deliver him. When he went back home, his church members told him how one day one of them had a burden for him and he led 6 others into some passionate prayers for him. The missionary enquired when this was and the date was exactly when he was in trouble. Moral of the story I think is to excite us into untercessory and that God can and does use human spirits as tools of deliverance.

Acts 16:9-10 (KJV)
And a vision appeared to Paul in the night; There stood a man of Macedonia, and prayed him, saying, Come over into Macedonia, and help us. 10 And after he had seen the vision, immediately we endeavoured to go into Macedonia, assuredly gathering that the Lord had called us for to preach the gospel unto them

This verse among others is frequently quoted to support this belief.

There was a time I had a dream about my spiritual authority. In those days I used to compile mp3 music and share them for free.

In the dream I had visited his house and we were listening to one of the MP3 cd in his stereo. He began to take me through the church financial statements and he was sad. There were huge funding deficits. I recall the financials were drafted in pencil. I comforted him and assured him we (with emphasis on myself) would take care of it.

In reality the church has a mortgage loan and the loan has been a thorn in the flesh; it gobbles most of the collections and we have fallen behind severally.

This is the closest I have interacted with a minister in a dream. Am wondering whether God indeed uses men IN DREAMS to procure deliverance. Please note, I don't mean dreams which signify deliverance like for instance dreaming praying for somebody and then waking up to pray, I mean ACTUAL miracles wrought through dreams.

Selah!

Jadonjack:
Truly, there is silliness and there is stupidity.


To whose detriment is the prove of my manhood

If you don't prove your manhood, then you don't have it

Jadonjack:
I ll do anything in my power to clear your doubt about any of my personality.

Yu do only what you are capable of

Please prove your manhood by posting a photo of your Johnny right here

Jadonjack:
Mayb

There is silliness and then there is stupidity.
What if I dared you to prove to me you are a man and not a shemal.e by baring your Johhny

Jadonjack:
He shld at least clear my doubt by healing someone who can't sleep a night without calling his name, even when he's in pain

In other words he owes you proof in your own terms, right?

plaetton:
Lol @ felt like a child again.
Have you been an adult or teenager all this while ?

Tell us about your 'wife', was she as well half white-half Carribean?
Puny neuron which can't get over the fact that it was dumped by a goddess