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Hehehehe, Paul and Peter for talk that one when them jam prison nah.

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And now December......when will he descend from the mountain ooooo?

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lodscott:
Mr man these are facts, in other words youd rather hear a lie and believe it a undeniable truth than accept you don't know and find ways to discover the truth which would go a long way in helping humanity.

this is the typical Christian (there are some religion that are open minded and actually care about the progress of their kind).
they are insecure about a lack of knowledge and that they can't comprehend a thing so they come up with a fall back plan.

why is the universe this complex = god

the funny thing is that god was their answer to some questions ago.

why does rain fall = god
what causes earth quakes = god
why did he fall sick = god
how did she get healed and he did not = god
etc

to me god in religion is just a personification of nature literally it was, wen we investigate older religions diffrent aspects of nature were personified with gods, the one god sympatizer are no diffrent, they just bundled all aspects of nature's and called it god. which is not bad,but however is a way of saying "I don't know" but not having to say it. the word god basically means "I don't know ,that's how it is, its just nature"

well thanks to those who were able to admit a lack of knowledge and move beyond that we now know that water from tje sea is heated up and evaporated by the sun forming a type of cloud, which when dense enough and under the right conditions condenses into rain. we know the surface of the earth is not entirely joined with its core and can move or slide over the core due to gravity, earth rotation etc. which causes earth quakes, we know about viruses,bacteria vectors sickle cell and other phenomenon which are responsible for illness, cures and preventive measures have been and are being synthensised. we know about the immune systen and how it varies from one person to d other due to genetics, heredity,environment etc.

nothing good comes out of saying you dont know stylishly.real good comes from admiting oblivion and taking steps in the right direction or any direction at all. christian like religions are a front for lazyness, acute perfectionism,cowardice, and weakness. until the many of my brethren who feebly hide behind the wall of 'god' from responsibility of themselves and the entire human race decide to come out and further our advancement am afraid the works of our courageous few(although outstanding) would not cut it.

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You are dithering
You'd have to be braindead to miss DESIGN and twice as dead to blame randomness for it

What are your thoughts on this asinine fad called multiverse theory?

menesheh:
And there is need for you to stop doing all I've posted above you in my posts and comments. My comments never invited you.

What do you have to say about that?

Am I supposed to comment when invited Negro?
This is a public forum and when you pour your brains(or lack of it) you can't control who responds and who doesn't

menesheh:
Another silly altitude is that you always shrimp my comment so that people going through it will not see the apt rebattle to a silly reply but i gat no problems with that anymore.

And stop spamming me. I hope we don't follow each other here.

There is no need posting all you have posted which is right above me, especially if it is a mishmash of nonsense and intellectual atrocity . Civilized Negroes think differently. Hang around me long enough and you will learn

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menesheh:
I noticed that there are different definitions of the word fool.


If the bible's own definition of a "fool" is a person who refuses to accept some crazy stories in a book out of many of such stories without any shroud of evidence, am happy to be that fool.

I know of dictionary definition of a fool to be a person with low judgement and less intelligent. Such persons are ready to believe anything atall with faith. Faith being when one pick-up a Harry Potter book and read all the weird claims there, instead of taking it for what it is, decided to credulously and gullibly started living his life as if it is a real life story. An not this particular fool.

If the bible's definition of a fool is a person who refuses to accept a statement made by a book that says "any person who refuse to accept and absolutely hold on to its unsubstantiated claims is a fool" count me one of them.

If bible's fools are persons who disbelieve in the reality and factuality of talking snake, that the universe was created by an alpha male in the sky in six days, that a full blooded human spent three days in the belly of a fish(where the digestive system of such fish stopped working for three day), that some magical spirits said this or that, etc gelalahe men , am one of the fools.


But the people i see as dictionary definition of fools are persons who read in a book that said "The fool has said in his heart, there is no Allah" and Started taking the book serious. People who don't care whether or not their belief is rationally justified and true. People who wear god eyeglass and can't see clear view of the reality in their front but can only see god.

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sorry bro I forgot to give the verse
Psalm 14:1King James Version (KJV)
14 The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.

sonofLucifer aka muskeeto
Lara Croft Go was voted the best game of 2015 by App Store. Costs $4.99 and I can assure you my Negro, you don want to check out before you play it.

Bought it yesterday and I only stopped playing when my iPad battery went flat. Buy it and thank me later Negro, aight?

Lara Croft GO by SQUARE ENIX INC

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isnovic:
Do have your self a revealing and compelling revelation of the significant Biblical events unfolding in our time!!!!!!

God warns Iran (Persia), with Russia (Magog), and a coalition of allies (including Turkey, Libya, and Sudan) will attack and will invade Israel. In Ezekiel 38-39 the Bible warns this coming war between Iran (Persia) and Israel will take place sometime after Israel has been re-gathered into Her land as a nation (which was fulfilled on May 14, 1948) … this prophetic war has never yet taken place … the only time in history Persia (Iran) has ever gone to war against Israel was to help Israel throw off the yoke of the Byzantine Empire around 614 AD.

EDGAR CAYCE : “IF” THERE WILL BE A WORLD WAR III – IT WILL START IN DAMASCUS (SYRIA) !
This War will be unlike any other war in history … this war will unleash a series of irreversible events which will change the world forever. God has set aside two whole chapters in the Bible to warn Mankind of this coming war.
The Bible warns the US will not or cannot defend Israel. According to the Bible, Israel must stand alone … with God. For when this coming war does finally start, the United States will be unwilling (or unable) to help Israel defend herself. Even though the Bible warns the invading armies will be ultimately destroyed by God, it will be a devastating war for both Israel and the whole world. Bible scholars are divided as to whether this coming war is part of the prophetic battle of Armageddon or will just precede Armageddon in order to prepare a path for the Antichrist (a coming World Leader who will enforce a Peace Plan (“covenant”) upon Israel) which will trigger the final prophetic 7-Year period of time which God has set aside for Israel and the World which is sometimes called the “Apocalypse”. Ezekiel Bible Prophecy and World War III

THE BIBLE WARNS RUSSIA WILL ALSO ACT AS A GUARD FOR SYRIA AND IRAN
“Prepare yourself (Russia – “Magog”) and be ready, you (Russia) and all your companies (allies) that are gathered about you (SYRIA – IRAN); and be a GUARD for them.” (“Them” is Iran, Turkey, and the other allies listed) (Ezekiel 38:7) A “guard” protects, defends, blocks threats of “international sanctions”… and provides weapons, technology, intelligence, command, and control … and often stays quietly hidden in the shadows until the time is right.
EZEKIEL 38:11-17
‘Thus says the Lord GOD: “On that Day it shall come to pass that thoughts will arise in your mind, and you will make an evil plan: You (the one who leads Russia) will say, ‘I will go up against a land of unwalled villages; (the cities in Israel are no longer ‘walled’) I will go to a peaceful people, who dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates’ to take plunder and to take booty, (Greed, envy, and arrogance will fuel this invasion) to stretch out your hand against the waste places that are again inhabited, (look at Israel today) and against a people gathered from the nations, (this will take place after 1948!) who have acquired livestock and goods, who dwell in the midst of the end.
Ezekiel Bible Prophecy and World War III
Sheba (Saudi Arabia), Dedan (Kuwait), (Saudi Arabia and Kuwait will not join this invasion) the merchants of Tarshish (may be England), all their young lions (may be former colonies like Canada, Australia, and the US) will say to you, ‘Have you come to take plunder? (Greed, envy, and arrogance will fuel this invasion …) Have you gathered your army to take booty, to carry away silver and gold, to take away livestock and goods, to take great plunder? “Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say to Gog, (“Gog” is either the powerful angelic being or a powerful human leader of “Magog” … Russia!) Thus says the Lord GOD: On that Day when My people Israel dwell safely, will you not know it?
Then you will come from your place out of the far NORTH, (literally “uttermost parts of the North” … take a globe and look “FAR north” of Israel) you and many peoples with you, all of them riding on horses, a great company and a mighty army. You will come up against My (God’s) people Israel like a cloud, to cover the land. It will be in the latter days that I (God) will bring you against My Land (Israel), so that the nations may know Me, when I am hallowed in you, O Gog, before their eyes.” (For God will destroy this invading army …)
Thus says the Lord GOD: “Are you (Gog) he of whom I have spoken in former days (Prophecy fulfilled!) by My servants the prophets of Israel, who prophesied for years in those days that I (God) would bring you against them?” (Ezekiel 38:11-17)
EZEKIEL 38:18-23
“And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel,” says the Lord GOD, “that MY fury will show in My face. For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: ‘Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the Earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.’
I will call for a sword against Gog throughout all My mountains,” says the Lord GOD. “Every man’s sword will be against his brother. And I will bring him to judgment with pestilence and bloodshed; I will rain down on him, on his troops, and on the many peoples who are with him, flooding rain, great hailstones, fire, and brimstone. (The invading armies will be decimated by God!) Thus I (God) will magnify Myself and sanctify Myself, and I will be known in the eyes of many nations. Then they shall know that I am the LORD.” (Ezekiel 38:18-23)

THE TIME HAS COME !
We are not exactly sure when this attack/invasion will take place but, from current news headlines, it looks as though it is now getting very close. As noted above, if you study your history books you will find the only time in history Iran (Persia) has invaded Israel was in 614 AD, and this invasion was to help Israel break the yoke of the Byzantine Empire.
The current threats of war the US and NATO members are making against Syria and Iran will involve Russia, China and … Israel represent the first time in history the world has seen the imminent fulfillment of this prophecy. Add the fact Russia is fully backing Iran and Syria will quickly turn against Israel when the US will attack, and all of these nations either are, or soon will be, armed with nuclear weapons, you will find the world may soon be facing this terrible prophetic war.


....more goto http://www.alamongordo.com/ezekiel-bible-prophecy-and-world-war-iii/

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Of what use is prophecy-after-facts?
If you notice, BEFORE Syria started imploding in 2012, nobody had the faintest clue about the county being anywhere

So these experts had to wait until AFTER these events to rush to the bible and attempt to place hem somewhere.

In short, this is a bunch of nonsense bullsh*t

menesheh:
Oya make both of you continue battling on a crazy book written some thousands of years by anonymous authors that are filled with contradictions. Anything atall you want to justify, open the next verse and there you go.

The fool has said in his heart, 'there is no God'

analice107:
Thank you @Donnie. That's very insightful.
I really thank God for this thread, a lot is being taught here.

Hey Vooks, how r u doing? am so happy to be back.
You are a well of knowledge, so be patient with us little people. Correct us in love. You know, the Word says in Prov 15: 1 that.
' Soft Words turns away wrath; but grievous words stir up anger'.

We'll try to catch up, you'll see.

I really appreciate you trying to keep us straight with the word. For me personally, you are my best buddy because i love the word. Without the word, Satan will plant so much error that we'll end up getting so lost. That's how religion started anyways. building doctrines out of presumptions.
keep it coming, but do it with love so that we won't out of anger and 'subtile pride, turn away from the truth that should help us.

If not for occasional interference from outsiders, this thread has been very peaceful and smooth sailing. No insults, no tension, unlike other threads. I love my family.

Praise God. The spirit of Christ is here.

have u guys noticed that, Nairaland Famous Atheist haven't been here to bug us? I wonder why that is. Even wen, Busybody mentioned them, they didn't come. Jesus is Victor. Amen.

Thank you for your wise counsel Anas09

analice107:
Hello guys. Shiloh is over, am back. our experiences from now henceforth shall be from glory to glory, in Jesus name. Amen.

About Anakims and Nephilims who were both giants.
let's look at it like this, 'All Israelites are Jews, but not all Jews are Israelites'. or the popular saying this days, that, 'All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists'
so, Nephilims were giants, but not all giants were Nephilims.
I think the confusion is in the Word 'Giant'.

some folk have concluded that every giant is a descendant of the evil seed of the Nephiplims. It doesn't make sense and that will be insulting Yahwey's intelligence, as Vooks said. Because, that will make the purpose of the flood defeated.
The purpose for which God started off to wipe off mankind in that era in the first place, was to get this evil seed out. For God again to save some of that seed in the genes of Noah's wife and Children, then later commanding them to multiply and fill this same earth, is very unreasonable.
Anyone who believes this, is implying that, Satan was evasive enough to have escaped Yahweh's notice, thus, has continued with his evil schemes. That will make God Omninothing.

The reason for which God wanted the inhabitants of Canaan, Amalek, Hittite, the Amorites, the Hivites, etc, destroyed was for their idol worship, human sacrifice, homosexuality and wickedness. Not because they were Nephilims.

And because, The Israelites will in time be influenced to indulge in the same acts of those perverts. Which we indeed see in the book of Judges 19 down to 21. The Tribe of Benjamin became as evil as the people who dwelled in that land before them. indulging in those wicked and perverted acts against their fellow Israelites.

This argument is stupid to me.

Anas09 this is so true.
Once you have a set mind that there are or were Nephilim in the ark, all you have to do is go on a fishing expedition straining verses to support your beliefs.

I have given verses clearly distinguishing Giants from Nephilim and some won't hear none of that.

Remember the ONLY hint of Nephilim post-Flood is contained in a single verse in an EVIL report by the spies. And it was full of exaggerations. How large would the Giants be in order to feel like a grasshopper? My guess is over 500 times.

There is a very interesting law of science called the square-cube rule which describes the relationship between various physical parameters as volume increases. There are very good reasons you don't and you will NEVER have ten-foot men. The bone structure required to support their weight would be so heavy that no man would have enough strength to move them.

This tells me that even the so called Giants were not that too far off the average man's physical attributes

ccollins:
please oo, @ vooks, Charles G,analice, oyedufe, busybody and co, I have a question, somethings have been bothering me in my thoughts and atimes in my spirit man as to why some Bible verses are taken sooo irrelevant or never used in church, we hear about love of God, offerings, law of moses among many others alike but a important Bible verse like this. I have never heard mention of it.. only see. it in bible. seems to most christians. it's not important ( 1 John 3:16-17 New International Version (NIV)
This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid
down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives
for our brothers and sisters. If anyone has material
possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has
no pity on them, how can the love of God be in that
person)

Ccollins!!
I think there are two reasons some verses or portions of scripture are ignored;
1. Bible illiteracy- the spiritual leader is just shallow, poor bible student and since he can't give what he doesn't have, the scriptures lie dormant
2. Self-centredness- love is essentially sacrificial and there is nowhere this is manifested than in charity. But churches (including mine and myself personally) love the needy far much less than is required of us. Churches may have a budget allocation for the needy but I can assure you it is usually a very tiny fraction of its revenues.

We need to get back to the basics of love and realize we can't possibly love the unseen God more than we love the seen neighbor created in His image.

Selfishness MUST die by fire

PastorAji:
help me ask am.....fyi Winners Chapel spends heavy on Charity just that I can't be discussing the system on Social media




.....insider opinion

It's because some of them don't trump their charity that we think they don't

Annunaki:
Even if they do, I am certain they spend only a very tiny fraction of what they make on the poor and needy. My point is that what should a church spend more money on? Those in need that jesus emphasised or church building structures that has little importance to true christianity.

How much?

Prayer points are pagan

Annunaki:
Yes church structures are secondary and not of primary importance even though it's nice to have a nice a conducive place of worship. But my grouse is why a church should prioritise building mega structures which is not so important in christianity over taking care of the poor and needy which is clearly instructed and emphasised by Christ.

You'd need to know whether they don't take care of the poor and needy. Can you categorically confirm they don't?

It's almost as if they are mutually exclusive; church or charity

myworkforchrist:
Please read the whole story to get the picture. The devil is really a wicked being. Anything that's exalted above Christ Jesus is an idol. I believe here on Nairaland you have seen folks flaunting wrist watch worth millions when that fund can be used to help the needed.

Please read the story or better still watch the video to get the picture.

God bless you

This 'Jesus' who can't quote a single scripture is not Christ of Nazareth

Annunaki:
That was then, under this dispensation our bodies are the temple of God.

1 Corinthians 6:19

19 Or do you not know that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and you are not your own?

Church structures are secondary my broda, the primary thing is fellowship. If you ever get to study Christian history, it started with home cells and as persecution subsided, established meeting places became the norm. This followed synagogues another Jewish innovation.

Isn't it sensible if people are going to meet regularly they should be shielded from elements?

Annunaki:
The passage below puts the answer to your question in better perspective.


Acts 7:46-50

46 who found favor before God and asked to find a dwelling for the God of Jacob. 47 But Solomon built Him a house.

48 “However, the Most High does not dwell in temples made with hands, as the prophet says:

49 ‘Heaven is My throne,
And earth is My footstool.
What house will you build for Me? says the Lord,
Or what is the place of My rest?
50 Has My hand not made all these things?’

You have not answered the question.
Churches just like the temple despite being raised for God are not designed to house Him

ayoku777:
You're right, its the intent. The matter of the heart is the heart of the matter.

A true ministry is run by treating souls as its greatest asset. When you begin to see a church branch being castigated or threatened because they are not remitting enough amount to the headquarters, you cannot help but wonder, what is the goal behind opening of branches?

Are these branches being opened to shore up the capital base of the mother church? Or to reach more souls?

Why threaten a church with shutdown or change of leadership because membership is still low or remittance to headquarters is not increasing?

I know firsthand a lot of the world-style politicking and tussle that goes on in many of such branch-based churches.

The church should be run as it was run in bible days. People should be mentored in doctrine and grace, and given the liberty to express their giftings without the mentor playing the Holy Spirit to them.

Let me tell you the truth. The present church model are just holding the fort for the real model that will take the church into the promised land.

The present model are like Moses, feeding God's people in the wilderness as the Joshua generation matures to take the rein. When they do, demoninationalism and branch-loyalty will be replaced by the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ.

Presently, the church is not even remotely close to the glorious church Christ is coming for, in power, purpose, principles and personality. And we don't even have the church discipleship model yet for arriving at it.

We will get there though, because it is written.

I like your idealism but I must say NO church has ever been 'the glorious church Christ is coming for'

Next, there really was NO blueprint for church structure prescribed by Jesus Christ; all churches of all generations have been innovations and this is why o can't fault one model over the other. To me it is all about optimization. Is there anything you can do to maximize the impact of the church? If there is and you know it, go for it.

For now in this age of science and technological advancement not to mention population explosion, it seems insensitive having masses covering great distances even within a country just to be in church. This can be resolved by a branch network.

But if a minister's influence/catchment is a few miles radius, opening branches all over may not be smart.

Annunaki:
Acts 17:24

24 God, who made the world and everything in it, is Lord of heaven and earth and does not live in temples made by human hands.


Acts 7:48
"However, the Most High does not live in houses made by human hands. As the prophet says:

What purpose did Solomon's temple serve?

ValentineMary:
Yet many of their church members can't afford 3 square meals a day.

What should they do, wait till Nigeria GDP quadruples before moving out of a tent?

ayoku777:
Don't confuse church planting for branch planting. You can plant churches without making it a branch of your own church.

I'm not talking about the Nigerian model of man of God-ism and hero-worship mentality. I'm talking about the church, the way it was meant to be.

Just because you mentored someone doesn't mean you should become the Holy Spirit to the person. Even those you mentor should be given the liberty to be led of the Spirit and express their unique giftings and grace.

Most times, branch planting is just to spread the influence and empire of the man of God, not to spread the gospel.

You can mentor someone and help him plant a church that will spread the gospel of Christ, without making his church a branch of yours. Just like Paul did for Timothy and Titus.

A lot of pastors that don't have branches, are mentors that have helped other pastors plant churches. But they gave their mentees the liberty to express their grace while they continue to counsel and interceed for the churches, like Paul did.

Church planting does not have to be branch planting. And God will truly prove that through what is coming. What is coming will soon make denomination and branches irrelevant. We will all be one body, a church, made up of churches, not branches of a religious empire.

The different between church planting and branch planting is the INTENT

How do you suppose churches should run?

Start with Ayoku777 called to start a church from his basement. Next?

oyeludef:
@ vooks, I am of the opinion that since it was impossible for man to enter perfection b4 Jesus Christ came, probably God judged perfection of man based on different standard. Looking at those whom God made covenant with in d scripture b4 d coming of Jesus, non could b said to b actually morally perfect. D first covenant was with Adam which was actually incomplete because it wasn't sealed so lets Forget it. D second is noah who is actually d subject matter of discourse sealed with a rainbow, d third is Abraham who only believed God and God counted it to him as righteousness, God made covenant with an imperfect children of Israel and he sealed it with d law (tables of stone in d ark of covenant) God made covenant with the David and even regarded him as d man after God's heart.
I believe noah perfection was as a result of his genetic cleanliness.

If I understand your rationale,
1. There was no perfection BEFORE Calvary
2. Noah was called perfect BEFORE Calvary

Conclusion
Noah's perfection had nothing to do with morality or at least it was of a different standard. It MAY have been genetic

This is excellent reasoning. Why I reject it is because before Jesus, there were one too many characters described in exact terms. For instance

Job 1:1 (ESV)
1 There was a man in the land of Uz whose name was Job, and that man was blameless and upright, one who feared God and turned away from evil.

Luke 1:6 (ESV)
6 And they were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord

The point is there were good men before the cross who pleased God, who would be called perfect.

One ONLY reads genetic purity in Noah if they have purposed to in the first place. This is eisegesis or reading INTO a text instead of exegesis; reading FROM the text

Forget all we were taught and read d book of Genesis 6 and seven. God specifically told Noah to build the ark for his family and God gave him d dimensions because of the animals that were gonna come in. Remember that it took about 30yrs for this ark to be built nd completed. Non of the child of noah had a child wen dey were entering d ark so it is possible dey quickly got married. I am not dogmatic in dis my theory o but i think its a bit logical.

Something I noted about those times of long lifespan, marriage happened 'late'. For instance, from Genesis 5, Methuselah sired Lamech when he was 187 and Lamech sired Noah when he was 182. Noah sired Shem,Ham and Japhet when he was 500 years!

Noah got to the ark when he was 600 years (7:11) meaning Shem,Ham and Japhet were aged maximum 100 years. Since they got to the ark married,they must have married within their first 100 years yet they were still childless

You may still want to question why God will allow an impure seed into the ark but remember that even Christ said in a parable that it is at d end he is gonna separate the sheep from the goat but for the time he will allow them grow together (speaking of the Church)

Your analogy is flawed because God suffers impurity to thrive so He can judge them later but with Noah, He judges/destroys 'impure seed' and at the same time SAVES some of it from His own wrath

Think about God judging Sodom for homosexuality by raining sulphur. But he hides some homos from the sulphur to destroy them at a later date while saving the non-homos. So He basically destroys homos and saves homos and non-homos

Sir, with all due respect this does not make sense.

If God was wroth with humanity because of 'impure seed' and He sets to destroy it, then saving some 'impure seed' is out of question.

It would only make sense if eliminating 'impure seed' was never the objective in the first place. This would in turn mean sleeping with angels is cool. And if sleeping with angels is cool, then the angels who are said to be imprisoned should not be there or they are there for something other than sex with women

Grow up you idiot

TB Joshua is a murderer and charlatan
His ministry has folded
London closed
Greece closed
US closed
Ghana closed
South Africa closed

The only branch we know of is in Thessalonika.

Am still reeling in shock that some brainwashed Neanderthal buffoons still blame ghosts for the building that collapsed.

It is a shame that a Negro who can afford a $65m jet cut corners, put up a substandard structure thereby sacrificing 116 on the altar of his greed

Ubenedictus:
I GUESS I LEARNT SOMETHING TODAY

Hallo

ccollins:
thank you brother /sir.. now let's face it this way, gifts are secondary but then your relationship with God primary also obedience.. 1 Corinthians 13 should satisfy and affirm this statements from you, hope you do because I pratice them atimes and its lead me to being outcast or stupid atimes

I agree totally.
The very first time spiritual gifts manifested, some mistook them for effects of inebriation. If you are convicted of he the Spirit, please exercise the gift. May the Lord give us wisdom in operating in His Gifts

Great0:
This vooks is soo stubborn. My dear you have not grown just that you pack a lot of knowledge without a work, done in you. We dont need arguement here please.

Thank you Great0 for your kind words

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ccollins:
@bro vooks,, this stories are not self centered.. if you don't agree with a statement, narrate your opinion and move on... God who sees the heart of men knows those that are his children... every Christian has a gift from the. Father and am sure. you can as well inspire us here by telling us of your personal testimonies strictly based on Bible as you want instead of creating unnecessary arguments.. divisions are from the devil.. even when you emphasis always on how those with powers of Holy Spirit I.e miracles, casting out devils e.t.c were rejected by Jesus on Judgment day, you. failed to complete the chapter on this reason for people to understand that it's actually christians who are hypocrites and do not have the love of God in them luke 13 ( “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will
enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who
does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many
will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not
prophesy in your name and in your name drive out
demons and in your name perform many miracles?’
Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away
from me, you evildoers!’)



ALSO NOTE BELOW THAT IN MATTEW 23,THE WORD RIGHTEOUS WAS USED,,WHICH MEANS NOT ALL WHO CLAIM RIGHTEOUS WILL INHERIT HEAVEN.. NOW JESUS HERE STILL MAKES REFERENCE TO SAME POINT AS THAT IN LUKE13
( Matthew 25:31-46 New International Version (NIV)
The Sheep and the Goats
“When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the
angels with him, he will sit on his glorious throne. All
the nations will be gathered before him, and he will
separate the people one from another as a shepherd
separates the sheep from the goats. He will put the
sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
“Then the King will say to those on his right, ‘Come,
you who are blessed by my Father; take your
inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the
creation of the world. For I was hungry and you
gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave
me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited
me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was
sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you
came to visit me.’
“Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did
we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give
you something to drink? When did we see you a
stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and
clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison
and go to visit you?’
“The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you
did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of
mine, you did for me.’
“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from
me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared
for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and
you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave
me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did
not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not
clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not
look after me.’
“They also will answer, ‘Lord, when did we see you
hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or
sick or in prison, and did not help you?’
“He will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did not
do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.’
“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but
the righteous to eternal life.”)

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Thank you ccollins,
You are a wise young man. Let no one despise your youth.

Concerning this verse, my points were;
1. Only genuine born again Christians can prophesy,heal and perform miracles or (spiritual gifts in short) the name of Jesus Christ
2. Sin does not automatically extinguish spiritual gift in you
3. Many believers operating in the spiritual gifts will STILL end up in hell

Among others this means operation of spiritual gifts is no measure of maturity in Christ not the quality of your relationship with Him. This is therefore a stern warning to those of us who adore gifts as an end in themselves.

Let us not be mesmerized by the Gifts to the extent of forgetting our relationship with the Giver.

It will be sad when the Gifted appeal to their Gifts only for the Giver to reject them. Imagine exercising a Gift yet the Giver does not know me

Prophets for profit

The absurdity of Chemical Evolution is so embarrassing that they changed its name to abiogenesis. Evilutionists want to discuss life ASSUMING there was life in the first place.

It is important to understand that even as Darwin developed his theory, he understood this problem. He suggested that life originated form a sole organism which he couldn't explain where it came from. Hundreds of years later, we are no closer to unraveling this self imposed idiocy.

Now I know why the FOOL has said in his heart, 'there is no God'

zeongeon:
k

K