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MuttleyLaff:
Oh no. Shudders. Far from that. Quite the opposite

We are talking different dispensations here, and different uses
On one hand, oil used for consecrating individuals with power for service
and on the other hand, oil used for anointing individuals for healing

Oil was symbol for empowerment,
a symbol used as/for initation for service, for God's work etcetera

Saying it differently, oil was used for anointing in Biblical times, (e.g. Aaron, Saul, David etcetera)

It predated the flames or tongues of fire that symbolised the holy spirit

Remember Jesus told the disciples to wait to be endued with power from on high

"And now I will send the Holy Spirit, just as my Father promised.
But stay here in the city until the Holy Spirit comes and fills you with power from heaven."
- Luke 24:49

Some of us need a helping hand with faith
and that's where the oil as a placebo effect or placebo response comes in

Ok
But storing jars of it is crazy
I once was given a broom, salt and oil. It's embarrassing reminiscing my ignorance

dsquare33:
Demons cannot be killed but they can be driven out, because they are spirit entities, but when demons operate through humans like witch, the witch could die in the process, especially when he or she refuses to repent.

So when you say your enemies will not see 2016, you are speaking death and since death is for humans, you are speaking death for them

MuttleyLaff:
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Understood you loud and clear sir.
The skeptics would have you believe that your faith or prayer or even the name Jesus Christ are placebo and I felt you were coming from this angle.

I hold a different opinion on oil;I think it did more than placebo. Oil had a long history in Judaism going back to Moses and from the YHWH Himself. I think after prayers it is potent in and of itself

lodscott:
still waiting for the facts you base your creator god believe system on since its not a theory.

fmy understanding of the multiverse theory, I know there are a number of models but wats usually common is the existence of alternate realities which encompass a universe of their own all representing a possible outcome. in other words everything possible exists

WHY did they come up with alternate realities representing everything possible?

myworkforchrist:
I believe you know the word of God is written by inspiration of the holyspirit. For example, John wrote the book of revelation by vision from heaven. The claim of the catholic bowing down to graven image contradicts the word of God which is the bible. If you feel my claim is faulted, please kindly show me the part of the scripture that buttress your affirmation of contradiction.

2 Timothy 3:16-17
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: 17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Exodus 20:4-6
Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; 6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

And lastly, revelation that are in line with the word of God are inspired by the Holyspirit. The below points highlight what the holyspirit helps us to achieve if we are true christian

1. It reminds us of the commandment of God. Just has the Spirit of God helped John to note what will happen at the final time(end times), the same spirit of God is still active, helping people to realize their flaws, sinful nature and reality of hell and heaven.

Scriptural backing:
John 14:26
But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.

2. The holyspirit is our comforter and is presently here with us.
John 14:16
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

3. The Holyspirit intercedes (prays) for us. This is very important. The only mediator for us with our heavenly father and Jesus is the HolySpirit and not saints or mary. I repeat, mary or saints are not our mediator. Doing that will incur the wrath of God on such doer.

Romans 8:26-27
Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered. 27 And he that searcheth the hearts knoweth what is the mind of the Spirit, because he maketh intercession for the saints according to the will of God.


I pray this message help any reader to come to the realization of the truth. JESUS only is the WAY to salvation. You don't need a mediator or graven image, doing that will lead to eternal damnation in hell

HELL is REAL

God bless

They are inspired and inerrant while you are not, that's the difference

They carry the highest authority. Against what can I test your dreams,delusions,hallucinations....?

MuttleyLaff:
You can call it whatever you like, mind games or whatnot.
At least they didnt make merchandise of the oil

Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church;
and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
- James 5:14

And they cast out many demons
and healed many sick people, anointing them with olive oil.
- Mark 6:13

Am calling it what you did, placebo which means the healing had nothing to do with Jesus Christ and His name, just belief in whatever was thrown at the sick.

You still stand by this?

MuttleyLaff:
I was just addressing this question in responding to omakay
I dont think the former did,
but the latter to some extent surely did advocate and use the pacebo effect

The apostle advocated mind games, right?

lodscott:
my thoughts on the multiverse theory? it is what it is, a theory. I wouldn't call it asinine though neither would I assert it true.although honestly I would like the idea of stuff being just like the movies I wouldn't go about proposing it true on no factual basis.
the day it is proved 100 percent that there is god, the one who actually created the whole universe I would be in the front rows to welcome it. but till then your Christianity is even more asinine than the multiverse theory.

unless u have actual facts to prove the creators existence, please drop them here

Can you in your own words summarize your (mis)understanding of multiverse theory

johnydon22:
The world would be a better place if we humans became more loyal and loving to our fellow humans and less so to imaginary deities and primitive books and ideas

Rwanda lost 1M in under 90 days without 'imaginary deities and primitive books'.

Antitheism is asinine at best, it imagines by attacking theism it will gain currency

MuttleyLaff:
Placebo effect and also otherwise known as the placebo response

All that glitters is not gold

Languishing and perpetuating ignorance. They are miseducated and preyed upon

Did Jesus and the Apostles employ placebo?

Ubenedictus:
SO U BELIVE THAT FOR 16 CENTURIES THE GATE OF HELL PREVAILED AGAINST THE CHURCH?

YHWH always has a remnant

omakay:
The problem is not even with the oil and the hankeys.

The problem is with the Christians who are idolizing these items.

Its quite funny but most of them do carry this scary belief that once a Man of God does not above items as part of his ministrations, he is not a true M.O.G.

The highlighted

Kings 18:4 King James Version (KJV)
4 He removed the high places, and brake the images, and cut down the groves, and brake in pieces the brasen serpent that Moses had made: for unto those days the children of Israel did burn incense to it: and he called it Nehushtan.

You can see the Israelites were no exceptional

analice107:
@Vooks.

am no dream interpreter.
This lady, is she real? like, is she a living person? If she is, I think you will play a vital protective role over her sometime
soon. And i perceive you can do it well, whether its spiritual protection or physical. I perceive a very resilient spirit in u.
Godbless.

Good evening Anas09,
Thank you for your insight.
The most puzzling thing was the uni bit because I had not thought about that the day before nor am I a lecturer. I can't recall her face from anywhere


#FromGloryToGlory

myworkforchrist:
Believe only in Jesus and be saved.
You have no excuse again since you viewed this thread. I only hope this thread will stand for you and not against you on Judgment day.

God bless.

You rely too much on your subjective visions and dreams and imagination to arrive at the truth. Study scriptures for a change. Only the Word of Truth can transform a soul. Not 1001 visions

Ubenedictus:
IT SEEMS ALL CHRISTIANS BEFORE THE 16TH CENTURY WENT TO HELL.

Catholicism sent so many to hell little wonder it was christened Harlot of Babylon

bestestgirl:
I know right?? the ones in my parents' room all had hankies taped to them with masking tape. Each tape had descriptions written on them like 'judgement oil', 'preservation', 'healing', etc. I just smh at our gullibility

There is one woman of God and evangelist I have known for over 2 decades. God led her to use oil. She'd pray for the sick and for those representing the sick she'd give them oil to go and anoint the sick and they would get healed.

One lady who had nightmares used to sleep with the oil under her pillow. She confessed this to the evangelist and ever since that time she stopped using it.

It is very easy to idolize what we can see hence the warning against graven images. I'd say from your description that your parents are doing this.

Let's stop making idols out of hydrocarbons

dsquare33:
I am sure the OP was at the Redemption camp and he prayed the prayer, led by the G.O, because how did he know Daddy G.O raised the prayer point, are you asking this question because you want to stir an hornet nest or you just want to talk. For those who are saying Jesus ask us to pray for our enemies,how do you pray or bless spiritual wickedness, power and principalities? God Forbid! According to Ephesians 6vs10-13, you don't pray for them you prayed against them, Somebody mentioned imaginary enemy, all Christians know that there is an enemy out there called Satan or the Devil,with his demons who come in various guise to wage war against man, hence these are spiritual, the spiritual control the physical. These enemies are both enemies of God the creator and man and the only way to dislodge them is by praying against their onslaught.

But can you kill demons?

sonOfLucifer:
Hahaa. It's cool.

Na, not yet. Slightly busy weekend. Working on a website. NL's one huge distraction.

Negro, you can say that again!
I have exited two forums I literally lived in, FB Is also inactive for the last 2 months. I only have NL and another blog. Am contemplating leaving here and when I do, I will never return. But for now, NL is yet to get to me

Larryfest:
Seriously i don't know what to make of this,if some can actually prove that Yahushua is the real name of the saviour and not Jesus as we all have come to know it then in whose name have we beee praying and getting our answers from! I hope the spiritually inclined peeps in here can help shed some light on this.

You must have ran into the garbage that is propagated by SNM or sacred names movement.

Please wisen up

Start here
https://www.nairaland.com/2698323/what-original-hebrew-name-jesus

sonOfLucifer:
Brother, why not try another religion? Christianity makes no sense. No lie is supposed to.

Thank you sir for your counsel
When I meet another Jesus Christ, trust me to bail out in a New York Minute

Did you download Lara Croft Go?

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Bolanle99:
Hi. My name is Bolanle.​​​​​​​​​​

I have attended the Holy Ghost Congress with Daddy G.O. of RCCG, Pastor Adeboye for several years now and would say that I have always left uplifted and encouraged in my faith in God and country. It was a great shock, therefore, when I read the newspapers sold exclusively during this year’s congress titled, FLOODGATES OF HEAVEN which included blatant lies about another man I also love and respect, Prophet T.B. Joshua.

There were different evangelical items being sold in the camp like stickers, wristbands, handkerchiefs, anointing oil, Daddy GO’s pictures, books and audio tapes to name a few. I bought a Christian newspaper titled “THE SHEPHERD” Vol 12 No 13 from an accredited vendor in the Redeemed camp, which had a headline story: PRAY FOR BUHARI NOT TO DIE IN POWER – T.B. JOSHUA WARNS. The article claims T.B. Joshua prophesied the death of Buhari in office, stating that he was not Nigeria’s messiah. The article added that T.B. Joshua predicted that Vice President Yemi Osinbajo would take over and later be assassinated by an ex-military Head of State.

Another article in the paper stated that Prophet T.B. Joshua recently held a crusade in Kaduna and addressed journalists at the airport concerning what God showed him about President Buhari. To make matters worse, another publication I had bought, titled “CHURCHMIND”, had an equally falsified story, titled “TB JOSHUA WARNS BUHARI – HANDLE BIAFRA ISSUES WITH CAUTION”. It claimed that the Prophet pleaded with Buhari to personally intervene in the Biafra issue.

These papers were sold inside the camp where government officials were present, such as Vice President Osinbajo, Lagos State Governor Ambode and Ondo State Governor Mimiko. For those who don't believe me, I took pictures of the publications and have attached them.

I am SHOCKED that Redeemed Christian Church Of God could be used to sell such lies. As an avid viewer of Emmanuel TV, I know for a fact that T.B. Joshua NEVER said such. I mean, he has not been seen in his own church since before his crusade in Mexico in May and has not been seen in public since his visit to the President of Tanzania in October of this year. He certainly has not held any crusade in Kaduna or any other state in Nigeria for that matter and has never spoken publicly about Biafra. I know that all prophecies given by Prophet T.B. Joshua are shown on Emmanuel TV.

Since I left the congress, I have been asking myself what could possibly be the motive for writing, publishing and releasing such fabrications? Out of concern, I checked the major newspaper stands in Lagos and could not find these newspapers anywhere else. I went to Ojuelegba, Oshodi and Ikeja – nothing. Does this mean they were prepared solely for the Congress? I can only conclude that they willingly did this to try to stir up a crisis between TBJ and Buhari.

For how long will Nigerian pastors endorse division and spread falsehoods about fellow ministers of God? What kind of religion is this? Jesus is the Truth and commands us to speak truth to our neighbours. I am highly disappointed that such a respectable figure in Nigerian Christian society, Daddy G.O. can lower his standards to such a degree to allow this. Imagine what an impact we would have on the kingdom of darkness if we were one and dropped all of this jealousy, envy and resentment. Unfortunately, the Congress has left me more confused than before I attended.

cc: lalasticlala

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This is gutter press. A smart Negro who knows that most idiots suspend the few neurons between their ears once in church and he is making a killing.

TB Joshua is a scammer, the most polished charlatan from +234 with sick fetishes such as watching women pee and defacate in church. He went overboard when he made a 116 strong human sacrifice. I hope and pray you won't blame gutter press for whatever comes his way especially when they lock him up and unleash some booty warriors to feast on his rectum

You been scammed be cause you damn well deserve it

sonOfLucifer:
if you are banning false propaganda in church, you might as well ban the Bible too.

My negro,
Go slow on the rhetoric, it is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of YHWH

stagger:
Can you tell us what the world's population was in 1 AD and what it is now in 2015 AD?

Excellent
The first century used donkeys and boats and scrolls. Nowadays we have iPads,jets and so forth.

The important thing is FELLOWSHIP and regular gathering, God did not bother micromanaging, He left the the Body to its devices so it is confusion to rail on others who are different from you.

If you think heaven comes down in a group of 2, all the best, just concentrate on your church of 2 and the lost & perishing instead of throwing tantrums over the 100K seater who are DIFFERENT from you. Live and let live


Cc Annunaki

Annunaki:
It has nothing to do with the world's population, so stop being clever by half. Nothing stops christians from still meeting in small gatherings today and in the real sense the small gatherings are more impactful than the big ones in which you are lost in a crowd.

I think you are envious my broda
Tell me, what is your IDEAL church size above which you should open a branch?

How did you arrive at that size?

You can equally get lost in a 'small' church of your job is warming he church pew waiting for the sermon to end so you can hit the road. Smart believers form home cells, bible study groups, whatsapp groups, join a sub department inside a church and so forth

PS
On Pentecost, several thousand guys came to Christ

I had an interesting dream today in the morning.
This squirrel is ever on my dashboard but after last Monday's accident I moved it to my house as I took thre car for repairs.

In the dream me and my buddy were assistants to a uni lecturer/professor and on day 1 I got into trouble over some assignment she had given me and I never finished. I discovered she had an exact squirrel toy in her office.

I had visited her at her house and as I was leaving she told me I remind her of her late hubby. Immediately there was a plane overflying and leaving contrails/ clouds shaped like a cross with a round shape at the intersection( like the one below but made up of clouds)

The plane(a huge jet) started losing altitude like it was falling but it was descending sort of vertically like a helicopter. I remember shouting at the prof and I really feared for her life. It landed right outside her house.

Some men came out. They had rugby outfits whitish in color and I heard them ordered to chop off hands. I started to run towards her gate and out onto the road. I found a crowd that had gathered and then some heavily armed men(police or soldiers) in ranks like a parade waiting for the enemies....:

I woke up

Am going through this dream and yeaterday(Saturday) I had watched Rugby sevens in South Africa, watched some troops matching.

When a dream is full of images you had seen hours before sleeping, it is safe to presume it is your mind unwinding. Which is what I did

Millerz:
if you were sane (which I already know you aren't), you'd have read the part where I said I'm a girl.

By the way, I go to a school you can only dream of. Get your senile schizophrenic self a brain. Also, when next you dive into mentions, be sure to bring your senses along.

Last time I'm quoting you. I don't waste minutes on delusional folks.

That's why I prescribe oestrogen shot so you can look like and post with the grace of a woman/girl. Shemales are disgusting creatures

The charlatan added to his multiple sins human sacrifice as well. May the Lord have mercy on this Yoruba fool

Millerz:
I worship God, not man. Not John d Baptist, not Mary. I worship God, the father, son and holy spirit.
I'm a girl too.

Deliverance is supersweet. You will never leave the Lord's side once you are free from the synagogue of Satan.

You write like rugged illiterate man. Get a hormone shot

Millerz:
Hey psycho

your foolishness really knows no bounds. I'm not a SCOANite. I'm a Christian. keep trolling on every thread involving prophet TB J and your sanity may just be lost forever.

Oh, and have a nice day!!

Have a nice day my broda
Try worshipping God instead of the charlatan for a change

2 Peter 2:3 King James Version (KJV)
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.


It is no magic or miracle that when you direct resources towards pampering one MoG, his fortunes will rise far above the rest super fast

1 Timothy 6:5 King James Version (KJV)
5 Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.

Why do they equate bling with godliness?

trapQ:
Don't the holy spirit also want boko haram members to worship him? So should he go open a church in sambisa then?

SCOANITES and their pathetic IQ!
There are real threats in some areas so planting churches ANYWHERE is ret@rded. But this is no reason to have a shrine at SCOAN to the exclusion of other very safe places with other churches thriving

Cc Freemanan

menesheh:
Your mum is the negro and if you meant that to be an insult.

You are right, all my descendants and ancestors are Negroes