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zeongeon:
We argue to learn mr know it all so there is no point getting aggressive..You don't get people to agree with you by being aggressive.

Your definition of aggressive is difference of opinion, right? You are funny

No one can fully understand God, not even you with your whole knowledge of the Bible can understand him..

Then you should answer this question Didnt God know Noah at some point will be angry with ham and curse ham's son Canaan, didn't God know that ham will one day commit atrocity. Gen 9:20-25, Yet ham was blessed.

This is the most useless question/analogy I have come across.
In Gen 6, God was dealing with the THEN world. Peter tells you it is THEN world that perished. It was the sin of men of that particular time. So if Ham was upright at that particular point, he escaped regardless of his future sins.

You on the on the hand are claiming that God destroyed corruption with angels in toto while sparing and blessing some of the corrupted and specifically commanding them to multiply.

Why did God also bless Ishmael King James Bible
And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation. Gen 17:20

Another irrelevant example. He blessed Ishmael because Ishmael descended from the loins of a man He had blessed. If God was cursing sinners and he blessed a sinner in their midst, that'd have been a contradiction. God is Wise and Consistent

God blessed Noah and his family telling them to be fruitful and multiply because they where going to start again.The world Noah entered from the ark was significantly different from the world he knew before. God gave Noah the same kind of mandate He gave Adam in the beginning of creation (Genesis 1:28), since Noah essentially began all over again.

This is true. Very true.

God blessed Noah's son and there wives because of Noah..it seen in the bible that God blesses people cause of the relationship he had with there father example Abraham.

(Psalms 112:1-2 NIV) Praise the LORD. Blessed is the man who fears the LORD, who finds great delight in his commands. {2} His children will be mighty in the land; the generation of the upright will be blessed.

What you are saying is God blessed some Nephilim because of their relationship with Noah giving them a safe haven in the ark but He destroyed the rest. The ones he blessed he commanded to multiply. So the Nephilims were really a non-issue, which begs the question, WHY did He destroy them in the first place?

Ham gave birth to Canaan, Canaan in turn birthed the generation of post flood nephilims/giants. Canaan was ancestor to the Hittites, Jebusites, Amorites, Girgashites, Hivites, Arkites, Sinites, Arvadites, Zemarites and Hamathites. Later the Canaanite clans scattered and the borders of Canaan reached from Sidon toward Gerar as far as Gaza, and then toward Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah and Zeboiim, as far as Lasha. Gen 10:6, 8-19...These lines of Canaan aso had the nephilims and giants living amongst them.

Once again Giants are not necessarily Nephilim and I shared the verses so I won't repeat myself

How come ham was different from his brothers in attitude, ham even brought a curse upon his son. The origins of the post flood nephilims and giants comes from Canaan as his line had giants and nephilims

This is an unreasonable question. How was he different?
Jacob and Essau were twins and VERY different despite coming from the same mother and father. So even if Ham was 'different' as you purport, this is no evidence of corrupted genes.

What you keep on missing is Noah's brothers and sisters were destroyed in the flood, so it is clearly nonsensical to claim Noah had 'pure' genes the only of their kind

Even Gen 6:4 states that there were nephilims/giants even afterwards, how did the nephilims/giants come aftwards. After the flood Noah and his family where the only ones left with the responsibility of multiplying and repopulating the world. No where in the bible again was it stated that angels mated with women again after the flood. so how come where they nephilims and gaints after the flood?

The Nephilim were on the earth in those days--and also afterward.(gen6:4)

Yes AFTERWARDS but the question is what is AFTERWARDS?

Genesis 6:4-5 (KJV)
There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that,when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually
The context of the verse is clearly on pre-FLOOD. God saw the wickedness 'after' the AFTERWARDS but He saw the wickedness BEFORE the flood so AFTERWARDS is pre-Flood

nnamdiosu:
bro Charles calm down. see..... you have a purpose on this thread. its too help liberate/ give insights that would empower and teach people. if you say something and someone doesn't agree......move on . don't argue with him cos you also are indirectly and unknowingly detailing the thread too. bro vooks is just bearing his mind and saying what he believes. and that's OK. everyone has the right to say what he or she believes . let's move on. God doesn't like arguments. I've missed ur insights and teachings. pls continue. bro vooks .....its OK. this is the second major argument you r having on thus thread. in as much as I like ur arguments and style....I think its getting extreme. God bless us all. peace

I haven't argued with nobody, I merely agreed with a brother here that the bulk of these tales glorify the enemy. This is nothing but God's honest truth.

CharlyG1:
The purpose of this thread has been mentioned on page 1. It is to expose the hidden works of satan and his demons not to glorify the enemy. Maybe you should check the topic of this thread again. If you feel this is too much for you, kindly click the un-follow button.

God has given people spiritual insight and several spiritual gifts, this thread serves as a medium to spread the word of God and expose the deceits and the operations of the satanic kingdom. Not many people can digest things like this. If you don't have experiences or testimonies like people on the thread, why do you try to make a bad impression about people's stories? because you don't have any of these experiences??


Everything here is based solely on revelation and the word of God. This thread helps to re-connect people back to Christ; making them see how satan works against them if they continue in sin. And if the thread closes today, I'll still be glad with what God has done in people's lives via this thread.

I would only advise you to be careful about the way you speak. You seem to have a loose tongue and a haughty spirit, always too fast to speak non stop.

Maybe this is too much for you to take in. Maybe you should listen more to people and stop assuming you're Mr Perfect.

You are free to get yourself worked up.

The bulk of these stories are nothing more than self-centered, they make heroes out of men. If this does not apply to you, then you are hurting over nothing.

And of course you don't brook disagreement. That is PRIDE. Can't stand the idea of being wrong. You want to sit up these dispensing heavenly wisdom. Anything you disagree with is distraction and demonic, right?

You may as well go ahead and count the demons am carrying

Or even better, list them by name and then cast them out

plaetton:
Lol.

Still doesn't get it.

Unfortunately for you, google doesn't teach math.
You need an education for that.

The Bible says a fool is deemed wise when he holds his peace(piss for you)

talktokayoo:
My family are not religious people so I don't know anything about Christianity nor gifts and calling of God. I had various experiences that pose to take my life but I really do not understand it. I will say 2 of them. I saw same demon came to me to kill me, the first time it came I managed to overcome by eventually managing to say Jesus and it left, it happened again and I overcame by saying Jesus. please note that I almost lose consciousness and lose gasps of life at this two incident.
please understand that this experience were before I gave my life to Christ. I often think why would a demon come 2 times to take my life and when I said Jesus it flee and why is my life in danger most times.
I gave my life to Christ 2013 and got baptized and filled with the Holy Spirit and gave all my life to Christ and the whole things changed.

I had a dream where same demon came chasing me and I turned back to him and cast him out boldly. Signs that follows a believer of the gospel "He shall cast out a demon Mark 16:18
The Holy spirit begin to teach me as a believer we have authority over demon and that if a believer or christian have a negative experience with demon and evil spirit it is becos he has not come to the understanding of his Christ given authority.

I read through the tread and I saw even some people with gifts yet they are terrified of the Devil, people of God if you will advance with your gifts and calling in life you must understand God given authority over demons, evil spirit and Satan himself. you will not move forward in your calling and gifts without understanding your authority over your adversary the devil.

This is a powerful testimony

I will not talk much about evil spirit experiences becos I love to glorify God not devil and his demons.

I sometimes feel this way; most of these stories glorify the enemy regardless of the intent of the narrator. We should temper these accounts with more and more of the word of Truth.

plaetton:
The point remains that you are just regurgitating things that you barely understand.

It is obvious that you don't know maths, and are clueless about statistics.

Your half-thinking brain is unable to grasp the fact that the odds of sequential events are exponentially quite different for simultaneous events.

M0ron,
Who told you nothing about sequence?
Go back and read what i wrote

ALL the amino acids need to be there SIMULTANEOUSLY as a minimal

plaetton:
Thank you sir.
May the Toothfairy grant you $4.

People who failed math in school coming here to wax ignorantly about the probability of this , the probability of that .

BTW, I wonder what is the probability of Nothing turning itself into an all-knowing immortal , self-existent god, and then creating the universe from the same Nothingness.

The odds should be 1 in 10 to the power of 1 billion.

Amateur Septic(sic)
What makes you think God had to turn himself into anything?
Clearly this is way out of your depth and I apologize for overworking your sole neuron. See if you can unfollow the thread

cloudgoddess:
THAT IS HOW SCIENCE WORKS YOU DUMMY. scientists don't claim to know anything until they have proof for it - until then, "we don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer. you are the ones who are ignorant because you jump to the claim of god before you actually know anything.

Up until just 300 or so years ago, no one knew that diseases were caused by microscopic organisms -- the bubonic plague for example was thought to be a CURSE and people tried to fight it off by wearing ridiculous beaked costumes. the people claiming that the plague was some heavenly sign from god or a curse from the devil or whatever, were WRONG. the correct scientific knowledge and antibiotics would have stopped the plague - not superstition.

if a person back then would have said, "i don't know what is causing the plague, but i know it isn't god", they would have been MORE CORRECT than the people claiming they knew that it was god/the devil/whatever supernatural force. "i don't know" is an acceptable answer in science because jumping to conclusions before you have any proof is an act of willful ignorance and only causes confusion. what's the difference between you claiming that a yet unknown phenomenon "must be god", and me claiming that it must be "a magical unicorn"? neither of us have proof, how would you know which is right? Heck, how do you know which is right between your god and the thousands (literally, over 4,000) creator gods that have existed throughout history, many of them polytheistic?

'Scientists' have ALREADY ruled out Intelligent Design without proof for or against. They have therefore settled on CHANCE and are hell bent on pursuing it regardless of how improbable and impossible it is to generate life by chance

ccollins:
instead of people asking the Holy Spirit which is a free gift from the Father so that others can learn or they keep shut, they are here arguing with pride. I. came here to. learn and not for arguments on the Bible.. when the law of. moses makes Peter think salvation is only for the Jews, he received a revelation from God concerning this even before Paul reproved Him... we must have godliness with power and not just a form of godliness . God is not an author of confusion

Great point!
Not everything here will benefit everyone so it is wise you pick whatever rocks your boat and leave the rest for others

zeongeon:
Yes destroying the disturbed DNA at that time was one of the reasons God destroyed the world and God would have saved any one who listened to Noah. His wife and his kids and their wives listened to Noah. and where saved.

Peter tells us in 1 Peter 3:18-20 that the Spirit of the Lord was speaking through Noah at the time, warning them to repent and turn to God.

Genesis 9:1 (KJV)
And God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth
The absurdity of your claims is totally lost in you. The same 'disturbed' DNA was commanded to be fruitful and multiply after the flood. These are some of the dilemmas you find yourself when you mistake God for your villagemate

zeongeon:
“These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God. “ – Genesis 6:9.... Noah was both JUST (moral reference) and PERFECT (genetic reference).

You need to take some time off your wild imagination and listen to God.

If God was destroying IMPERFECT genes why did He preserve Noah's wife and his kids and their wives as well?

davien:
Nothing like basic math in the morning to work up the old brain...

Sadly only the above math and postulates are sound,below is nothing more than a childish misapplication of mathematics..and this is why




I'll summarize your shortcomings with these two points so that you can understand this again...

#1 You as usual ignored the fact that probabilities don't have a say on events that have already occurred no matter the figures arrived at,an example would be for you to calculate the odds of being born at the exact instant that you were to be 10^2000,now would that disprove your birth?....

#2 Garbage in-garbage out,plotting values and trying to select for an extremely specific instance would always yield astronomical results(especially when you don't know what you're doing).
Lets say a boy flips a coin 10 times and gets 10 heads,1/2 * 10 and repeats this every 6 hours ( 6 * 3600 = 21600 sec ) ,now what would we get once we threw in specific unnecessary or unwarranted figures like the probability of each individual atom in the thumb partaking in the coin toss and other things like what hand he used and how many fingers he had and the length of each one? Wouldn't we arrive at a finger so improbable that to a layman it would seem as though hands shouldn't exist atall?(lol)

Wassup kid,
I think if there is evilution, you have regressed by a few thousand years since you attempted to take me on.

Let's look at how m0rons think.

1. It is true probability can't determine past events. But I really wish Abiogenesis had just probability to surmount. It is more than this, you need right radiation, reducing atmosphere, you need zero or minimal UV, and so forth. I will not overheat your puny brains with details

2. When I gave the analogy of atoms flipping, the point was to highlight how TIME and FREQUENCY would not significantly lower the odds. Atoms are never going to flip coins for sure. You clearly are a m0ron for missing this. TIME is often thrown around by naturalism as a panacea of all its shortcoming; you sure as hell know you can't turn from a virus to a virologist overnight, but when I throw in the magical 5 billion years, the idea suddenly appears plausible.

Now kid, do you know nothing about Multiverse and why it was concocted? It was to explain away fine tuning. If there are INFINITE number of universes each with slightly different laws and conditions, chances of at least one getting it 'right' for life are much higher.

The problem is even in this one of ours, abiogenesis is IMPOSSIBLE. In short, multiverse does not explain away the achille's heel of naturalism; ORIGINS

zeongeon:
Do your research on Noah's wife and the wife's his sons married..the earth then was corrupt the DNA of man was disturbed...And Noah the bible said was from a perfect generation they didnt say that about his wife..The question you should ask and research on is who was Noah's wife and where did his sons marry from.. King James Bible Gen 7:7
And Noah went in, and his sons, and his wife, and his sons' wives with him, into the ark, because of the waters of the flood.

God is a master planner he knew that the nephilims would resurface again and set up the children of Israel to finish them and lay them to waste...read about joshua, David and his might men and how they dealt with this nephilims...I even hope Hollywood could give us a movie about those might warriors of David.

Research even has it that most of those giants/nephilims fled the children of Israel and migrate beyond to other parts of the world for example the Azetecs /Incas if you look at hieroglyphics you would see kings that where giants who had 8 fingers and 8 toes, even Angkor a deserted kingdom in Thailand where ruled by this nephilims, if england formerly knpwn as Albion where ruled by these nephilims..

We may not have nephilims or giants walking the earth now but we have the nephilim spirit operating and rebelling against God.

Has it occurred to you how funny it is destroying corrupted Dna by hiding them in the ark, and further blessing them and COMMANDING them to multiply?

And you have yet to prove that Noah perfection was biological and not moral. Noah's pure line was destroyed in the flood. All his brothers and sisters (Genesis 5:30)perished in the ark. So the difference between Noah and the rest was not DNA but integrity.

Genesis 6:5 (ESV)
5 The Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intention of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually
It was about sin not DNA at least as far as scriptures are concerned.


Let this sink into you; Nephilims were giants but Giants are not Nephilim;

Deuteronomy 2:10-11 (ESV)
The Emim formerly lived there, a people great and many, and tall as the Anakim. 11 Like the Anakim they are also counted as Rephaim, but the Moabites call them Emim.

You can see EMIM were also a tribe of big men. This ought to caution you against jumping into conclusion when you see BIG/GREAT as you are wont to.

Scriptures reckon there were Nephilim BEFORE the flood and they were destroyed in the flood. This means proving Nephilim existed does not prove they survived the Flood. YHWH sent the flood to destroy ALL flesh is the point and He accomplished exactly that.

Canaanites descended from Noah's loins, which brings you back to where you started namely, YHWH sneaked some of he had genes he sought to destroy into the Ark.

Is there a more nonsensical conjecture?

zeongeon:
Thank you very much Mr I KNOW all....

Bad report in that case wouldn't have been a slander, gossip it was a report that tried to discourage the children of Israel to create fear as regards to the people they saw in the land.
you know the children of Israel was even faced with the possibilty of fighting the habitants and now hearing the men where giants and nephilims dont you think that would create fear and as such a bad report the children of Israel didn't new such reports at that time so that there morale won't be dampened.

Numbers 13:32-33 New International Version (NIV)
And they spread among the Israelites a bad report about the land they had explored. They said, “The land we explored devours those living in it. All the people we saw there are of great size. We saw the Nephilim there (the descendants of Anak come from the Nephilim). We seemed like grasshoppers in our own eyes, and we looked the same to them

You don't make people see the "truth" in what your saying using force or trashing there views, You don't know everything so a persons opinion being different from urs doesn't mean that person is wrong, blasphemous or saying rubbish..

I think you should go do research and watch documentaries concerning giants and nephilims, hear from various people and probably you will learn more and come to a more appropriate conclusion.

You missed out on so many points raised in my post as you where so fast to proof you know the whole BIBLE.


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Just do a word study of EVIL REPORT.

The scriptures suffices.

Here is the point you can't get over; God is destroying corrupted genes by hiding them from the flood in the ark. How clever is that?

I know all about theories of aliens visiting the earth. It would be best if there was PROOF like fossils of such. Those silly videos belong to the realm of pseudoscience and 'paranormal' and are not credible at all.

Acquaint yourself with scholarship and quit pursuing gossip o simpleton

ccollins:
it's not good to argue my friend.. instead pray for your neighbor who you think is ignorant for perfection.. being too assertive and questioning even little details like this, is it going to give us life or make us inherit eternal life.. do you think arguing on bible verses would make God reward you more.. just cross examine yourself and ask God for right things

Ok
Looks like we have different ideas of what arguing is.
Unfortunately scriptures is all I have, the most objective source of truth. Like my Master, I default to , 'it is WRITTEN'

destinedtee:
Brother Vooks, take it easy please. Your responses are a bit harsh. I am on your side on the issue of extermination of Nephilims after the flood.

Personally I believe the only humans that existed after the flood were Noah and his family (including the animals in the ark). Every other living and animate being was wiped off by the flood.

How could the Nephilims have escaped the flood? Bro Charles, I don't get u on that. I don't understand but I am willing to learn and admit if I am truly convinced by an authentic explanation. For now, my stance is that nobody else survived the flood apart from Noah, his family and the animals in the ark.

For me o, I am here to learn, get edified and blessed. Let's be more tolerant of each other (I don't mean compromising our beliefs). Let us correct each other in love. Bro Charles, u r doing a great job. I appreciate you.

Ok,
Am sorry.

I know there are difficult passages of the scriptures but all my alarm bells go off when I see conjectures pushed as hard facts or even worse, 'revelation'.

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ValentineMary:
I have come across many believers who claim that no matter what a non believer do, irrespective of his good works, he can't go to heaven (and the funny thing is that we don't even believe in heaven or hell). But the idea is that many believe that non believers are all bad no matter what they do.
Now I ask a question: Should someone be judged based on his personal ideologies or moral conducts? which is more important, praying in some few Latin words or giving that poor beggar by the road side food
Faith has made people greedy, only thinking of their selves. Even when they do a good, they expect a reward from a supreme deity. That would explain why many people stop doing good when their imaginary friend in the sky no longer hears their prayer. But a non believer who does good, would do it only out of pure human compassion not expecting a reward from Santa Claus.
It is very disappointing that young people even think this way. I wonder then kind of adults they would make, irrational conclusion can never solve human problems.
Even if you might remain deluded for the rest of your life, please don't think that everyone that does not share in your delusion is evil. Have a nice day.

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Atheists are as moral or otherwise as the next SOB.

Their morality or lack thereof has no logical basis

1feness:
I got introduce to a lady by a lady-friend about 7 years back. We got talking and talked about everything and then she asked the big question; What church do you attend? I said "I'm not a christian" Then she said "Are you are Muslim? " I said no,not religious.She said "Listen,I like you but I love Jesus more,and I will not mingle with the devil" Then she picked up her bag and walked way.

Now she is trying to add me on Facebook and sending messages. I heard she got involved with a guy who was secretly married. She found out and broke up with him after 5 years. For the records,she is mixed raced(English and Jamaican). I personally think Caucasian christian are worse than their black counterparts.

My point is,people of faith often judge people of no faith before they know them.

How relevant is her race to your point?
You really had to let the world know a goddess winked at you and then dumped you like a worthless piece of crap but then to damage control you have to remind the world how she erred and landed in trouble because she lost you?

We have many kids on NL....far too many

zeongeon:
The nephilims still existed after the flood... Genesis 6:9 seems straightforward.Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations , and Noah walked with God. From the phrase "perfect in his generations"Noah was racially pure, that is, all of his ancestors had been of the same racial stock, making Noah the only "perfect" human being of his generation...

Nonsense
You assume Noah's just and perfect has something to do with his biology and not character. Those words are used EXCLUSIVELY for integrity and nothing else.

Then you may want to ask what was the genealogy of Noah's wife was she also pure..did she have the distorted DNA of that time, probably yes, as the bible mentioned only noah as being perfect in his generation. Noah wife was actually Naamah, the sister of Tubal-Cain (Gen.4:22), by Zillah and the bible didn't state tubal Cain as being from a perfect generation and as at the time of noah the whole human dna was disturbed and Noah's DNA wasnt as he was from a perfect line.

More nonsensical conjecture
If God is busy ridding the earth of genetic adultery, you would think He was dumb enough to admit 'disturbed DNA' into the ark

Noah as not FROM a 'perfect line', he was perfect in all his generation meaning AMONG his contemporaries

if Noah and his wife who wasn't pure had shem, ham and Japheth then according to biology that disturbed DNA would have been in them but recessive.

Which means saving Noah's family was actually helping spread the defective genes?
Please stop blaspheming

Ham one of Noah sons gave birth to Canaan who may have had that wicked gentic dna dominant in him, he also had giants in his lineage and generation as in the land of Canaan in which the spies saw giants in numbers 13:32-33 and who was also curse as a result of what his dad ham did(Gen9:20-29) .Gen 9:25 And he said, Cursed be Canaan; a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren.


Canaan's descendants later migrated to dwell in the land that was named after him and, by and by, many giants were birthed among the different tribes of Canaanites with reference to the giants the spies saw Numbers 13:33.and the bible has a record of 36 tribes of giants and you can bet that the genealogy of the tribes with giants after the flood can be traced to Noah's sons, there wife's and generations after them that is to say the nephilim DNA resurfaced again after the flood as a result of it being within Noah's immediate family and generations eg his wife, sons, sons wifes, children and generations after.

Which means the flood was hopelessly ineffective in terminating defective genes.

There was no Nephilim in Caanan, just big men who the spies in their EVIL REPORT called Nephilim. Please do a word study of EVIL REPORT. It means gossip, slander.....

And you also accuse God of filling Caanan with Nephilim seeing He blessed the sons with 'recessive but defective genes'
Genesis 9:1 (ESV)
1 And God blessed Noah and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth

Great0:
@Vooks, this your too much debate is nothing helping matters here. And also try lower yourself and debate.

What do you mean?

AlfaSeltzer:
Not pained. Just wanted to know whom you believed created your worms.

Now you know, stick around and learn

dorox:
A civilisation with the technology to manipulate genes with such precision as to creat human can surely build a fully atomated meachanised system to mine gold from ores to bars, which in my opinion wkuld be a simpler and better solution.

Who told you ret@rds are interested in common sense?

oyeludef:
@vooks, bro chalse is correct abt there being nephilims after d flood. Av u considered d size of goliath as described in d bible? His height alone is like an electric pole today. He was a nephilim.

Read about Goliath's height here . He was no more than 9ft. Am 6'1 myself. Goliath was just a tall guy. Contrasted to the average Hebrew height of 5ft, I'd look like a giant somewhat.
tallest man ever was over 8ft

So historian believed dat one of d wives of sons of noah carried d nephilim seed.

Good conjecture but one would think if the wife had slept with the fallen angels she'd be as guilty as the rest of humanity, not to mention God would certainly see this cheeky agenda of sneaking corrupted seed through the ark. In short, this idea really insults God's intelligence

God made a covenant wit noah not to destroy d earth wit a flood anymore so He raised up d nation of israel to eliminate d nephilims.

One would think there would have been more effective means of destroying Nephillim than Israelites who waged wars for hundreds of years

Wat i dont quite agree with is d theory dat demons are spirit of nephilims because tracing d geneology of adam to noah its less dan 10 generations which does not explain how come demons are more than billions in number.

Very valid point. The earth's population by the time of Noah was no more than a few millions. Is it possible that when angels are said to be held in everlasting chains of darkness that it is a metaphor for their alienation from the glory of God?
This theory of Nephilim/demons vs fallen angels is founded on the idea that on one hand we have demons roaming all over and afflicting men and on the other hand being told they are bound in chains.

I think scriptures are rather silent on demons than we wish they were

AlfaSeltzer:
I don't need to see no light because only fools believe that things happen by chance alone. I believe that The Flying Spaghetti Monster has pre-ordained everything. I just wanted to know if we believe in the same thing?

You sound like you believe a dead jew did all these before he was born.

Why are you pained by Jesus Christ the Son of the Living God?

AlfaSeltzer:
outer space is still nearer than heaven.

Serves my point; naturalism is a religion that requires more faith than Christianity

AlfaSeltzer:
They do that.

Where and when did they ever do that?

AlfaSeltzer:
Please you and vooks should tell me which god created the universe.
Because even if we agree that the universe was created, it could have been done by the FSM for all we know.

For now am content in destroying naturalism. Am glad you are seeing light

AlfaSeltzer:
atheists don't assert that

Am not saying they do, am inviting them to DEMAND proof of these asinine assertions. Comprende?

KingEbukasBlog:
True . That's why they now insist the universe has always existed - its a new model they are working on though .

An eternal universe is laughable at best. All models demand a beginning

edogho:
vooks abi na books, let him massage our mind na. U've started again o, after u'll bring ur yeye imei. Lols


And ifeness, this is totally lost book of Enki.. Read many things like this, all interesting shiit

continue sha

Ok

KingEbukasBlog:
Even in the video , there are unsure of some occurrences .

"We dont know an awful lot about the universe "

"We need people to answer these questions "

"We dont know what it is but we are sure its there "

Why should I educate myself with uncertainties and assumptions ?

Are you now ready to join the bandwagon of the "We dont know , but we are sure its not God " crew ?

Excellent.
Does cloudgodess know what dark matter is? It is a fuzzy invention of 'scientists' to explain contradictions they observe in space. Contradictions of KNOWN laws of science. Hey have burnt 40 years searching for it to no avail. Isn't it high time they revised their faulty models instead?