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Goshen360:
God bless you. You see, I've noticed one thing especially with people like Gombs and Joe and their allies, they will depend anything coming out from their pastor or organization irrespective of sound doctrine. So, most times, I stay out of argument with them because their mind is made up already.

Catholics believe in Papal Infallibility an we think they are 'bound' but these hyper-pentecostals would rather commit sepukku than entertain the possibility of their pastas are wrong.

There's no difference between them and Mormons; their leaders are as inspired as Paul if not more

MrPresident1:
I agree with you, vooks, the 'Rapture' is the LAST event. The 'Rapture' is the return of Jesus Christ, and it is the end of the tribulations.

Pre/mid-trib are escapist at the very least and at worst demonic

Gombs:


You're kidding, right ?

RAPTURE is the RETURN of Christ.
Read 1 Cor 15 on rapture and Thessalonians epistles. Resurrection o 1cor 15 is followed by Christ descending.

The ret@rded theory o Christ hovering in in air like UFO is so silly that even Orangutans would never imagine it

sportsmaster:
To be Honest,
Many of these Pastors never follow the examples of the Apostles.

Hardly did any writer of the epistles emphasized material prosperity.
I have searched and searched and searched in have never found.

There was no instruction to even pray for material things in the Epistles.

There is very very little emphasis on materials things throughout the Epistles.

Many Pastors that we have today never follow these examples.

Its so so disappointing.

Apostle was Paul who wrote more than 2/3 of the epistles.
His prayers were much more emphatic on "REVELATION KNOWLEDGE" emphasis was much more laid on knowing the office of Christ.

See Eph1:16-23,
Eph3:14-21,
Col1:9-11,
Phillipians1:9-11,
Philemon1:6,

there was also emphasis on Ministry,
preaching and teaching sound doctrine.
Read 1tim,2tim,Titus.

There is very very very little or no emphasis on material things.

Paul simply affirmed God's faithfulness to provide our needs in
Philippians 4:19.

Cc vooks,Gombs,Goshen360.

Image123,Joagbaje

Paul was VERY aggressive on charity but very reserved on being pampered.

Modern pastas behav like Martin Luther King Jnr in advocating for their rights to be supported, right which they abuse enrichi themselves in the process.

Paul in 1Cor9 says he ha used NONE of these rights. Yet modern pastas want you to believe that supporting them is the key to prosperity!!

Why did Paul resist support from the poor if the same held keys out of th misery?

Gombs:
This is what I have come to believe..

The angels said to Jesus’ disciples, “...This same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.”

His coming is imminent. When He comes, “...The dead in Christ shall rise first: Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air...” (Acts 1:11; 1 Thess. 4:16,17).

Following the Tribulation, He shall return to earth as King of kings, and Lord of lords, and together with His saints, who shall be kings and priests, He shall reign a thousand years (Rev. 5:10; 20:6).

Joagbaje... Can you expound on the other two, and Leta see whether they be same or totally different.

Cc
Vooks, image123, Olaadegbu, nannymcphee, Trustman

I agree with you man of God,
Pre,mid are escapist theories that are totally unfounded.

The Rapture is the return of Jesus Christ and it is the LAST event

Joagbaje:
And what is disgusting there ? You complain Christian are poor , then someone's comes to teach them how to prosper and shows them what's available to them . We call it disgusting.

What is disgusting is peddling false hope and making millions while at it. Catholics shamelessly sold indulgences.

Nobody complains abo Christians being poor, poverty is is fact of life for both heathens and believers.

He is not teaching them how to prosper bu how to surrender the little they have to him.

Ever thought it through? If the principles worked, he would sow all he has including t aging jet and reap 100-fold in this life!

But he does not, instead he wants you pampering him, meeting all his whims

Gombs:
I hope you can see the results of your 'brilliance'?

There are rumors and then there are tweets

Quit using the word "Negro".... Thanks

Why should i?

badnature:
those TB JOSHUA owe you anythingchildren of darkness do you sick his life the same way you do to John de Baptist & Stephen?

If anybody sought him, they'd never consult you.

Why is he hiding for 4 months? Did he catch an embarrassing illness his morning water can cure?

Or is he afraid of standing on trial over his 116-strong human sacrifice?

totorimi:
Except if pastor Chris is not a Naija man, the best thing is to quickly marry a fine young girl in his church and forget this one. What type of abuse is she talking about that she cannot resolve iwith the husband . She's a big time loser and that's what she'll always be, she can't pull down a successful man.

when you are married to a big time pastor like this you ought to know some things in the family must give way. the pastors had provided everything money can buy for you even in faraway UK. You got fame, power and respect even like a presidents wife yet greed and unexplained jealousy took hold of her. As a virtuous woman which she ought to be she should have been able to deal with any situation.

Who told you she married Chris for money,power,fame...?
What make you imagine that this is what makes women happy?

Look at Hilary Clinton in the height of international shame how she dealt with the Monika Lewinsky saga, that's how real wives act in times of issues and not behaving like those who never known Christ before. I clearly shows that she was never the real person writing call those articles on Rhapsody.

This Anita must be an agent trying to pulldown a big ministry. She had planned this evil plot long ago thinking it will make her popular to start her own ministry to teach women how to leave their marriages.

Pastor Chris should collect his children from her and remarry asap no second chance to allow her back. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

And how should men behave if their women erred? Do they go about abusing their wives and justifying themselves?

deborah777:
Thanx for replying to my comment. However i do not understand in what century you are living in. According you it seems that females are only for giving birth to children and being house slaves to their husbands.... Sorry it is 21st century when females are right to work, to vote, to claim their rights to treated rightly and stand up for theirs rights when they are treated wrongly and make career and build up their lives without men if needed. And it is not in europe only but also in africa. And in Christ according to the Bible there is no female or male.

Anita did more than give birth, she ran the London branch. It is quite ret@rded claiming you are the MoG, that you wer called and not her when you fall out yet you trusted an uncalled woman with a significant arm of your ministry

Image123:
It's controversial in the sense that it got him in the news, and got people talking about him. Jo used to do stuff like that too.

Is it biblical?

plaetton:
This word "Negro" , that you are fund of using as a derogatory, does it say something about your inner psyche, your self-deprecation , or what ?

Just wondering.

Negro gives psychoanalysis a shot

Image123:
It's like some of these pastors just revel in the controversial. Celebrity style.

But this is not controversial nor 'celebrity', ' demonic pure heresy

plaetton:
If you were not so insecure, you would have figured out that I was merely using humour to pay you a compliment on a sensible post.

Anyways, you don't think that having a little brain comes with an obligation to think,. .even for little.

Negro keep your compliments to yourself

GooseBaba:
Wetin I talk wey you dey foam for mouth... Clearly we know who is insecured here.. ..I'm simply human.

Hav a go evening sir

#BringBackTBJoshua,

Negro been hiding since May.
June,July,August,September and now October.

GooseBaba:
Lmao..!!! Na today...?

Religion is for retards, that's why men like this can openly extort money and spend it in their faces.

Jesus bled and quench so his followers must give to ceaser what belongs to Ceaser . love-vendor dollar has presented himself as an anointed man, therefore mugu must pay..!!

Insecure nitwit m0rons masquerading as freethinkers/atheists

plaetton:
Lol.
Kenneth Copeland once told his audience that Man fell from the grace of god simply because Adam Ate his Tithe, instead of giving it to god.

God, religion and Jesus are All-Purpose-Vehicles(APVs) fabricated in the minds of men,,.the more clever of men using their fabrications to parasite on the mental fabrications of the less clever.

Gutter brains. When/where did he say this?

Goshen360:
Don't mind Creflo jare. He teaches and preach Grace of God now but he can't get away from the so called "prosperity gospel" being mixed with the gospel of the grace of God.

Except it's not 'now' but has been like this ALWAYS. He was so embarassed that he deleted the tweet

plaetton:
So we have finally found a Brain in that , hitherto , vast empty space ?
Though peanut-size, it's still better than nothing.

Negro, you are the most insecure atheist I have ever come across. But atheism and low IQ are mutually exclusive so I totally understand how hard you try.

nseke:
Financial prosperity Finance is so so secondary in Christ

It's not secondary nor tertiary

Pulpit p!mping just serves it's purveyors at your expense. Only they wax fatter by the day regardless of whether you prosper or not

Disgusting!


Gombs, Joagbaje,MutleyLaff,Sportsmaster,Image123,Goshen360

OLAADEGBU:
It appears to me that those who can think support Ben Carson while the rest follow the herds.

Why is a negro in Africa worried stiff about Carson? This is what u call not thinking.

Carson is a big fool, he should stick to theatres

If th were told by God that I give, I retort that am yet to get t memo but once I do, I will be it asap and exceed

sportsmaster:
l have been busy lately.
i got most of these materials from e-books my pastor wrote and i add to it from personal study.

it is on our church media's website.
www.livingwordmedia.org

you will see the e-book folder about 16 books for free.
get it and read on.

Ok, Ok, make time

sportsmaster:
vooks,
please do end the arguement

every reader kindly
visit this thread,i cleared some false heresies about giving here.
https://www.nairaland.com/2542333/funny-things-christians-say-without

Sir,yes sir!

sportsmaster:
i am coming to deal with the following statements.

1)God will never share his glory with anyone

2)I dont have a pastor,Jesus is my pastor.

Bros, it's been a month, please ge on it and step on them toes. Truth liberates but may be painful at times

Truckpusher:
The typical Caucasian at work - In your attempt to sound humane and as an enlightened soul ,you decided to polish your well articulated writeup and even with the insults you perfectly embedded in this your writeup some persons that are heavily burdened by the underdevelopment in this part of the world swallowed all your trash hook, line and sinker.

Negroes were better off than your folks thousands of years ago , when your were still killing each other and eating raw flesh, unseasoned and uncooked food .
The fact that like you rightly said that due to the environmental abundance the black man enjoyed and lived off the abundant land, he has little or no use for further technology afte all his land is fertile , supports life easily and encourage peaceful coexistence amongst the smaller tribes you chose to call jurasic animals.....smh
These guys where at peace and in harmony with nature until you came with your worthless barbaric civilization that is already threatening to wipe us out of the earth for good.
Someone said that while you continuously drown in your absolute supremacy, you have failed to see what a dying society you have created in your quest to compete with nature - You'll pay , it's just a matter of time .
For now you can continuously bask in the euphoria of your delusion of grandeur.

vooks is more Negro than you Negro!

Joagbaje:
It's a choice. Every child of God must not be rich ,but at least they have the right to know what belongs to them. Your choices in life are based on knowledge , ignorance and callings

Look at how circular your reasoning is.
When evidence of poverty among believers is adduced, you dismiss it as 'choice based on ignorance,knowledge and callings'.

What about divorce, is it equally a 'choice based on ignorance,knowledge and calling'?

Joagbaje:
It was a challenge they faced. Everyone can face challenges. They are temporal . It was a national economic disaster. It affected the whole region. But the church reached out to saints there.

A challenge that challenged the 'spiritual' principles you are advancing, right?


PS
Paul's collection for the poor saints spanned 10-15 year going by the dating of the epistles. So much for 'temporal' lame excuse

Modern 'mission' work follows MONEY
South Africa is way ahead of Nigeria in every way so trust Nigerians to receive 'calling' to minister there. When will they receive calling to go to dirt poor an dangerous countries such as Somalia,Chad,Djibouti?

Joagbaje:
Ma bu mi o.

The bible speak for itself . The poor refers to those lacking materially . Physical poverty just as the good news to the blind is to the physically blind and healing was brought to them . The good news to the poor is their inheritance in God t which grants them dominion over lack or poverty

Did this reach the saints in Jerusalem because they verily received the gospel but remained dirt poor?