₦airaland Forum

I truly believe that you never really know someone properly till you live with that person.

All of una eulogising the dump that is Ibadan have you not seen the thread on this
board showing pictures of Nairobi? Or the pics of other African cities like Durban, Abidjan,
Abuja even Lagos, Cape Town etc?

You all really need to stop wallowing in your ignorance and mediocrity
and realise what a dump the place is.

Hero:
Wow, this is a damn shame. While other major cities like Lagos, Port Harcourt, Enugu, Abuja, Calabar and even smaller ones like Katsina, Uyo, and Umuahia have seen good improvement over the past 10 years since I've last visited Nigeria it looks as if Ibadan is still the same ol dump it was way back then. It's a shame that the nations second and third largest cities (Ibadan & Kano) are 2 of the most crappiest looking and seemingly slowest developing in the nation.

Thank you Hero, so glad to know I am not the only one who
thinks Ibadan looks like one big cesspit. To tell the truth if
I was from Ibadan I would keep it quiet, or at least not brag
about it.

Especially like this. Damnnnnnnnnn.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3002109203552440821&q=Mapouka&total=290&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=6

Imagine that rollin on ya john thomas.

"so please tell me what you think attracts a lot of guys to me"



In two words: Your tits.

I'm going to set the proverbial cat amongst the pigeons here.

Ibadan looks to me like one huge corrugated dump
of a sh**t hole. Even the "modern" buildings look
like they are straight out of the fifties or sixties.
1950/60s that is, but I could understand if some
people thought I meant 1850/60s.

Are there no new buildings in this sorry excuse for a city?

I have my tin hat and shield for the abuse I know is coming my way.

@Guse

Without going into the technicalities of the determination(decision)
basically your friend has been successful and barring any other
issues the BHC should grant him his visa.

mrpataki:
There is nothing stopping you from applying for another class of Visa even when you have an appeal going on in respect of a visa you had applied for earlier.

@ Akolawole, VOR, LC, et al,
Will also be doing an on and off situation here on Nairaland. Lets keep the good work going though.

True, there is nothing to stop you applying but you can be 99% sure your application wil be
refused or at best you will be "advised" to withdraw the application pending the resolution
of your outstanding appeal.

omega25red:
Ok i have edited the page and i took off most of the pictures i hope that helps sorry for the slow loads


VOR i can see why you are mad at me for one i didn't say i took epic pictures or something sooo cool all i said was that i took a trip and i wanted to show some pictures of course i didn't want to show pictures that might violate the rules of this site but you got mad and by the way i took a look at the picture on your profile. That is the actual waste of bandwidth you should take that down no body wears their pants above their navels anymore also wearing a khaki green long sleeve shirt in the heat of Nigeria is not a good look. You can always take someone to a big city but the villager in them can not be removed. what a jack off in a kleenex.

I wasn't mad at you. I was just pointing out a fact ( a little too sarcastically perhaps, apologies for that)
But I do note that you have taken on board what I said by getting rid of some of the pics.

As for my pic well I haven't had any complaints before about its size or nature. In fact I would go so far
as to say all the ladies on nairaland love it. Many of them have described me as looking a bit like a sex god.
If you know how many e-mails I have got from many female admirers here wanting a date with me you go weak.


Btw the pic was not taken in Lagos, Nigeria but Lagos, Portugal look at the map closely.

Anyway, I do hope to see more "interesting" pics of your time in Costa Rica.

@Topic

My friend stop wasting bandwidth.
To you your pics might be interesting
but I'm sure to the vast majority of people
here they are as boring as anything.

I mean why should anyone other than the owner
of the pair of feet in water find that interesting?

Akolawole:
Abi jare.

I don't want to go offtopic, i could have raised UK secondary and Grammar school stuff here.

@ LC,VOR and MrPataki

Yours truly will be away for a while on sabatical.

Please keep the flag flying and thanks for your contributions guys.

All the best.

Catch ya later

Ako

This your periodic disappearing act is beginning to make me wonder o.

@Ako

I think the way to put it is, London(UK) CAN be a leveller.
Not in every circumstance though.
Just to show you why, and carrying on from your theme about queuing
at the airport, the other day on a trip to Germany I saw William Hague waiting
in line at passport control at Heathrow.

presjany:
@Funkybaby

I'm highly impressed by your posts here. I doff my hat 4 You.

@ Akowale and mrpataki and VOR

You guys re just good 2 go. Highly motivated and wonderful consultants!
Thanks all 4 keeping the thread alive.

I applied 4 a study visa last yr but was refused on grounds of my ability to follow the proposed course, and the ability to fund my stay, then  forgery of my BSc degree award certificate.In fact, the said certificate was withheld by the ECO. After my receipt of the refusal form, I wrote them expressing my feelings about the withheld original document, and in the letter, I stressed that as an employee of one of the biggest financial institutions in the country, the documents I presented to them has been verified by my employers before they offered the job 2 me.
And that I considered their judgement a serious slight on my integrity.

To my utmost suprise, I got a call from the ECO apologising 4 withholding the said document and explaining the grounds of the refusal, and requesting that I pick it up immediately from their office in VI. So I did just that.

This time around, I intended reapplying again 4 study visa, but later resolved 2 visit the schools I have in mind first, then apply for a study visa next yr. I wish to state in my application that I intend to visit some schools in UK (which I mentioned) so as to compare their available postgraduate courses with my intended course of study, and that  I also intend to attend a University's open day.

What do You guys think? Shld I still tackle the other reasons for the last refusal? How do I link this application to the former one I made?

Thanks for your contributions !!!!!!

@Presjany

I don't think there is anything you can do now about the previous refusal.
The time for you to appeal has almost certainly expired and though in theory
you can request for an extension of time within which to file the appeal you
must have very good reasons for not filing it on time in the first place.

Turning to your proposed visit. There is nothing to stop you applying to visit for the
reason you stated. Contrary to what Funky said the immigration rules do not outlaw
visits for this purpose. The obstacle you will face is satisfying the ECO that you are
a genuine visitor. This would depend to a large degree on your personal circumstances
and whether or not you meet the criteria as a visitor eg adequate accommodation and funds
and possibly a sponsor etc. Bear in mind also that although each application for a visa is decided
on its merits, the fact that you were refused previously will certainly have a bearing on the current
application.

Personally my advice would be to conduct your research about the school you wish to attend in the UK from Nigeria.
In this day and age of the internet it is not so important to attend open days etc. A lot of the info is on line.
By doing it this way you can then channel all your energy and resources into submitting a solid student visa
application. I mean the money you spend on fares to visit would be better utilised as a deposit to a university.

Good luck anyway.

Funky

I think Londoncool was just talking generally about UK immigration procedures
and wasn't specifically applying them to your sister in this instance. Pretty much
all he said is true. Just understand UK immigration can't be expected to catch
every one trying to subvert the immigration rules, definitely some people will
get away with things. What I do know however is that sometimes a person
can be getting away with illegality for many years and think they have cheated
the system but one dayy is all it takes for them to be caught.

I hope you know that the fact your child is born in the UK or Ireland and
many other countries in Europe does not automatically confer nationality
on that child? It still does in the USA so perhaps that is your best bet.

Finally it is NOT against the rules to come to the UK on a visit and look for a school.
It would however be against the rules to enrol and attend classes on a visit visa.
Although having said that there is a grey area where your course is a short term
course that is less than six months. For instance you might come as a visitor and wish
to attend a language school for a couple of weeks. Strictly speaking that is not against
the immigration rules and an Immigration Officer could in those circumstances excercise
his discretion in your favour. But like I said it is not clear cut so don't try it.

@gollum

I am available at Weekends and public holidays.

Eiregirl:
It's 2007!!! Tell me what's the big deal? You don't need to wash them by hand! Can't you put them into the washing machine with all of the other clothes for washing? Or is it that you don't do washing, full stop?

But what about if you live in a society where washing machines
are non-existant? Such places do exist you know.

Are you then saying it would not be right for the man to wash his woman's
pata?(knickers/pants)

chichimma:
This was a very inhuman and racial act of the Dutch police. It has also been condemned by Dutch parlement parties as Groenlinks and D66. In a so called civilized country one can't go to a social event and arrest people just on suspicision or assumptions. Just because they know that half of the vistors do not have papers it does not automatically means that they are into 419. They even arrested 'Osuofia' and later let him go. Those of us here are quite aware that police are controlling people with no papers often in areas but for them to come and do it at social events is extreme and contraversial.

It baffles me how these people think that we are stupid. This had nothing to do with 419 but with arresting people without papers, arresting Africans, in particular Nigerians. They wanted to arrest as much as possible. Kill to birds with one stone, let me tell you people something they have been monitoring Grand Cafe for a long time if not almost two years . This is the only place in Amsterdam where many West- Africans, South Americans come together and party, A place they play makossa, Nigerian and Ghananian music besides the mainstream sounds. A place that makes a lot of money in the weekends. Yeah, some of our people that go to Grand Cafe come to boast, show off and spend lots of money on the girls. They talk loud how they made this kind of money and dupe this kind of person in a public place not knowing that a lot of undercovers and snitches are there monitoring, checking, controlling and reporting. However that is not why the Dutch police should arrest 111 people. Just because they have a suspicion of one or two people. By the way , who says that people with papers or Dutch nationalities are not into 419? They use 419 to cover up search of illegals (I hate that word) because for the last few months this has been on the media constantly and the police think they can justify their acts by pushing it on 419.

We know better, I hope we do! The police commissionar has to justify this week the raid of last week to the Dutch parties. I hope something good comes out of the meeting such as releasing the 111 detainees. Otherwise I think that we Africans, (blacks) people living in the Netherlands should protest heavily about this inhuman and racial act. It is a pity that we don't have such organizations here , that will stand up for the Nigerians and Africans in this part of the world. Officially, Grand Cafe is over and if I was one of the organizers or managers I would bring the police to court. It is a big disgrace and offence that the so called abiding law officers implemented on that day.

I can't really see why you are complaining.

If the majority of these people arrested are truly
illegal immigrants and in Holland without
papers then they are breaking the law and the
police and immigration officials are doing the job they are paid to do.

As for the arrests taking place at a social event, so what. I am quite
sure the police would not have just raided the place on a whim. It would have
been based on prior intelligence. You even suggested as much. (see the bold portion above)

And why is it called Lylon/Nylon bag when it is so obviously plastic?

@Funky

What it all boils down to is credibility.

If you state on your visa application form that you are going to the
UK for a two week holiday and you end up spending four months or
the whole six months, next time the ECO will wonder why this was.
You might have shown on your form that you had sufficient funds for
a two week stay. Since you stayed for 6 months the ECO wil suspect
in the absence of any other evidence that you might have been working.
Having said that the fact you have complied with the conditions of the visa
and have not actually overstayed would be in your favour. But no do am to
often.

If you are found out to have backdated your entry stamp then you can forget
about any further visas for the forseeable future. I'm not sure whether the BHC
check with the airlines about passenger departures as a matter of course, but
I would suspect that if you give the BHC cause to suspect you then this information
can be obtained from the airline by the BHC. However, they would need to know
which airline you travelled by before they can start any investigation and this would
have to be provided by the passenger. This makes me believe it would be in exceptional
circumstances that they would do this. They would be unlikely to go on a fishing exercise
unless they are sure they could get the info.

salsera:
@VOR

i filed December 2007 i sent it by fax

they returned the appeal forms saying it was not complete(they didnt get all the pages of the fax)

so i filled a new form and sent appeal through my cousin to mmy uncle in the UK( same people i would have stayed with)
he's a lawyer( but does not handle immigration cases per se) so he then sent it to the appeal court. I asked for a oral hearing where uncle would represent me

Since february neither of us have recieved any communcation from them.

The previous appeal was in May 2004 but that was for WHM visa

@Salsera

I assume you mean December 2006 rather than 2007.
Did you receive communication from either the AIT or the ECO
in Feb 2007 and if so what was the nature of this communication?

Have you tried chasing them for an update?

@Ako

I'm not sure any benefit can be derived from concentrating
on issues/appeals which have already been adjudicated upon.
Let us start from the basis of the current refusal and appeal.
So if Salsera can upload this refusal and her grounds of appeal (GOA)
we will be able to advise further and possibly add suplementary
GOAs.

Over to you Salsera.

Imani:
LondonCool has said it all.

Not quite.

If you are getting married in the Church of England(Anglican)
then strictly speaking you don't require a marriage visit visa.
You will however need to obtain a visit visa to come to the UK
in the first place and it is probably better that you are upfront and
declare your reasons for coming to the UK to the ECO.

It really depends on your personal circumstances as to whether or
not you will be granted a visa for whatever purpose you apply, be it
settlement or visit.

Good luck.

salsera:
VOR, MR PATAKI, AKOLAWOLE

where are you, don't go on vacation just yet.

Anyways
MY CASE

I travelled to the UK in 2003, before that i had gone in 1991 and lived there as a child from 1984-1989
Applied for WHM visa in 2004 was refused, interview was horrible the ECO 'insulted' me all sorts of things, as at then I was employed but salary wasn''t it so iused mum's acct as sponsor
I appealled, the date for hearing was 2005 JAN, it was refused , appealed again it was refused.
So i continued with my life. Got a new job in 2006 and in November I applied for 2 years, used mum's acct,submitted my employment letter with salary stated, photocopy of company ID CARD

It was paper application, was refused ECO wrote this long page insinuating amongst other things that the stamps of previous travel on my passports were fake, that I didnot show evidenceof funding the trip( i did- submitted my mum's acct) or evidence of economic and family ties( i di , submitted ID card and employment letter where salary is 6 figures)

I appealled again and I have not heard from them till date, not even an acknowledgement that it was recieved


So I throw this open to the house

What do I do?

When was your last appeal and to where did you send it?

casperc100:
hi guys, i had lodged my appeal on 6th nov 2006, ait asks ECO to file appeal bundle but he didn't, first they gave 76 days time to file that bundle, but he failed, then they gave more 56 days time to file that bundle,,,,,i was told it was my appeal hearing on 8th may but when i contacted AIT , they emailed me back, and said they couldn't list my appeal for hearing due to heavy load of paper hearings, my appeal will list for hearing at the earliest opportunity.but i still haven't received any acknowledgement from AIT.

please kindly let me know what do i do now?

There isn't really a lot you can do other than to remain patient and contact them for progress from time to time.
You should also seriously consider ( Plan B) making arrangements to study elsewhere abroad if time is of the essence.