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anusule:
i would like to meet people with HSMP

Is it anything like HIV?

decency:
penis deep inside please

You see how dirty minded woman is,
see how she just take style turn am to sex thread.

Anyway if you can't beat them then join them,
how about: Pussy damn Pussy.

@BIG BUMPER

I suppose we will just have to agree to disagree on our interpretation
other than that I have the patience of a saint and a heart of gold.

My take;

1. Unless you are a money launderer or involved in other types of criminality, I can't see why the source of your funding should be a problem.
2. True, this is a possibility but I doubt an ECO would consider it unreasonable for a man and wife to want to be together.
3.By a strict interpretation of the rules she would not be permitted to work as you pointed out.

English1:
'had only limited leave to remain in the UK and so therefore it would be unlikely his madam
would be granted a dependant visa.'

That's exactly what I was saying. So am I right or wrong now?

Wrong I'm afraid and here hopefully to clear the matter up once and for all are
the Immigration Rules which permit a student to have his /her spouse join during
the course of study:

  [b]Requirements for leave to enter or remain as the spouse or civil partner of a student or prospective student



76. The requirements to be met by a person seeking leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom as the spouse or civil partner of a student or a prospective student are that::

(i) the applicant is married to or the civil partner of a person admitted to or allowed to remain in the United Kingdom under paragraphs 57-75 or 82-87; and



(ii) each of the parties intends to live with the other as his or her spouse or civil partner during the applicant's stay and the marriage or the civil partner of is subsisting; and



(iii) there will be adequate accommodation for the parties and any dependants without recourse to public funds; and



(iv) the parties will be able to maintain themselves and any dependants adequately without recourse to public funds; and



(v) the applicant does not intend to take employment except as permitted under paragraph 77 below; and



(vi) the applicant intends to leave the United Kingdom at the end of any period of leave granted to him.

Leave to enter or remain as the spouse or civil partner of a student or prospective student



77. A person seeking leave to enter or remain in the United Kingdom as the spouse or civil partner of a student or a prospective student may be admitted or allowed to remain for a period not in excess of that granted to the student or prospective student provided the Immigration Officer or, in the case of an application for limited leave to remain, the Secretary of State is satisfied that each of the requirements of paragraph 76 is met. Employment may be permitted where the period of leave granted to the student or prospective student is, or was, 12 months or more. [/b]

mrpataki:
Thank you big_bumper, you stated it out well.

In addition to what I stated above Mr Pataki based his advice on the fact that Dada
had only limited leave to remain in the UK and so therefore it would be unlikely his madam
would be granted a dependant visa. He then went on to say Dada should wait to start his
PHD before applying.
My answer to this was and still is, even with his phd he will still only have limited leave to remain
albeit a longer period.

@Big Bumper(the mind boggles )

You are simply attempting to create confusion where none really exists.

In what way are English and loverbwoy right. Dada made it clear in his
second post what visa he required for his wife and it was in response
to this (posts 5 and eight) that English/Loverbwoy made the assertion you have to be settled in the UK
before your spouse can join you. That is catergorically wrong, YOU DON'T .

I interjected, as you described, at the earliest opportunity to clarify that
he cannot apply for his wife to come to the UK from inside the country.I
cannot remember him making this point anywhere else other than at post 43.

You perhaps need to think out louder. What I and Mr Pataki said were
different. He does not believe that Dada should even apply during the currency
of his present leave to remain till Jan 2008. I am saying to him go ahead and
apply but only on the basis of his current status. Any application for further leave to remain
should then be done in country once the madam arrives.

All I have done here is to try to give Dada the best advice possible and
try and correct any advice I  consider to be wrong such as that given by English
and sorry to say yourself as well. It is of course open to Dada to check out the
advice I have given from people who are paid to give such advice but I am
confident mine is broadly correct. I'd be interested to hear further from Dada
on this point.

vikiviko:
What i meant is prove calls you have made, probably you send her some of the call cards.
And she too will hold some call cards here 2.
Believe me these consular are so daft that they can ask for anything.
Why am talking about communication is because the last application i doctored was refused on that ground.
Yours could be different, am sure your wife holds the ace on the day of the interview

Don't see how possessing call cards will prove you have been in communication with
a particular person. I would suggest that if the ECO does have any doubts then
a telephone statement would be a better way of proving communication.

In any case unless the ECO has grave doubts about the authenticity of the marriage
certificate or the continuing subsistence of the marriage I can't see this being a problem.

mrpataki:
@ VOR,
You are quite right in every sense you know. Thanks a lot for the knowledge shared out here.

No problem Mr Pataki, we are all here to learn and I have learnt
lots from being here. Although I guess I have a small advantage.
As I have said before I used to work within the system.

vikiviko:
.Recent Bank statements to prove your ability to support both of you.
.Evidence of suitable accommodation, eg rental agreement.
.Certified copy of your passport's bio data page and perhaps your student visa page.
. A letter of confirmation from your university confirming you are duly enrolled.
. Proof of your marriage to each other, i.e marriage certificate.
. Covering letter from yourself.
. Any other documents you feel may be relevant to support the application.

These are basic support documents that you need to provide
But the most important issue as regards her case, you must also provide enough eveidence of your communication with her
Also she'll be conducted to an interview which will be a determinant factor .

She might well be interviewed but as to proof of communication etc that would
only be requested if there were doubts about the subsistence of their marriage.

@Dada

You can't include your wife on an application at the Home Office
unless she is already in the country. An application made in the UK
is for leave to remain, which your wife can't get. She will have to apply
for leave to enter form Nigeria. That is why I said you/she has
to apply in line with your current conditions till Jan 2008.

When she arrives you can then both apply to the Home Office for an extension
based on your proposed ph.d. I wouldn't even send a letter to the UK embassy
about your ph.d because this would suggest that neither you or your wife are
planning to leave the UK at the end of your Msc. An ECO who goes strictly by the
book may refuse for this.

mrpataki:
To my own view, you have a limited leave to remain, which does not add weight to your application at the moment, even if you have 10,000GBP in your bank statement.

@ VOR
How would you be able to convince the ECO that you actually intend for your wife to return to Nigeria after Jan2008, and or what ground is she going to the UK, when the spouse has a limited leave to remain?

I am talking like this because I have an uncle who is citizen who had the same experience in a way, that was even in the early 90's.

Just my own view again though.

@Mr Pataki

.Even when he commences his ph.d he will still only have limited leave to remain.

.She is going to the UK as the spouse of a student, there is provision for this in the
UK immigration rules.

.The ECO would not have given Dada the EC if it was not believed he would return to
Nigeria after his studies, so unless Mrs Dada gives them cause to believe she will not
return at the same time as her husband they have no valid grounds to refuse her an EC
in line with Mr Dada provided he meets all the other criteria.

dada77:
@mrpataki
any logical reason?

I differ from Mr Pataki here.
So long as everything is in place for her
I can see no reason why you should have to wait
till you start your ph.d in 2008.

@Dada

Cool go ahead and apply if you have everything I mentioned in order.
As you don't actually have leave to remain or enter at the moment for
your PH.d your wife should only apply till Jan 2008.

It does cost money to run an Embassy and Nigeria is one of the busiest posts
in the world requiring high staffing.

When was the last increase?

@Dada,
Just to clarify for me, when does your current student visa expire?

dada77:
@mr pataki
She doesnt have everything u have mentioned.She graduated from OAU last year october,and completed orientation camp this march(27th).She plans to come over possibly to discontinue her NYSC,and join me in the UK.
Does she need a large sum of money in her statement as i am the sponsor?Anyway she has a bank statement with petty amount in the five digits.
Also she is not coming to visit,she is coming to stay with possibly till i finish my phd in 2011.
Does she has to do anything with the NYSC Stuff?

Dada

Trust me, so long as you are solvent in the UK and can care for your wife and you can satisfy
them she is your wife and that you will both return to Nigeria at the end of your studies you
should not have a problem. There are many wives of students here in the UK and not all
of them were in gainful employment back home.

All I would say however is that your wife should only tell them that she will be in the UK as
long as your CURRENT EC. So if for example you plan to extend your studies beyond this date
you would then both have to apply from within the UK. HOPE THAT IS CLEAR.

pattiano:
@ mrpataki

I do not understand what you mean by further stay and the rest but she is went there through a seminar and has decided to remain there in Canada and she has been there for 3 years now. Also i will appreciate if you give me the list of schools to apply.

Thanks

Patti,
My expertise is in UK immigration law and not Canadian although I would imagine a lot of the
principles are the same.
Others on this board might be able to help you but I would also suggest you google the net
for helpful sites to do with visiting and working in Canada.

mrpataki:
Her circumstances is the most important thing and a determining factor in fact for her application.

Well that still has a considerable ground for application. However if she is going to apply, she will have to get all the documents my Oga VOR has stated out to you, that is of you are the sponsor, possibly she should include her own bank statement, with a substantial amount of Niara in it oh, if she has assets like land property, investments in shares etc, she should include such, as well photographs of your wedding pictures, even though she is not going for settlement visa, i guess. Most importantly, she should get a letter from NYSC stating that she would return to duty after her short visit to her husband. Submit a photocopy of her NYSC id card too.

I guess I will stop here for now.

With respect Mr Pataki I would disagree with you on this point.

The real determining factor is what the sponsor is doing in the UK.
And that the Nigerian spouse is able to be maintained and accommodated
by the sponsor and that she will leave with him at the end of his studies. If she is granted
an EC it will be in line with Dadas.

I know many Nigerian spouses granted visas and the only thing they can describe themselves
as is a housewife. Should the British High Commission refuse to grant DaDAs wife a visa then
based on what he has said he would have valid grounds for an Article 8(Right to family life)
human rights appeal.

@Pattiano

I don't generally provide my e-mail because I prefer to answer
questions and queries in this public forum, so that everybody
can benefit, assuming of course people have similar problems.

The much venerated and respected Mr Pataki has asked a couple
of salient questions you will need to answer befor matters can be taken further.

@Dada,

Her circumstances in Nigeria are not particularly relevant for the purposes
of her application. Having said that however, if you can provide proof that
she has every reason to return to Nigeria eg her job is held open for her
whilst she is away then that will be helpful.

@Dada

Not sure I understand you here.

All I will say is that if there are any documents
you think are relevant to your application then
submit them.

@Dada

Your application should really be quite straight forward.
But supporting documents would include:

.Recent Bank statements to prove your ability to support both of you.
.Evidence of suitable accommodation, eg rental agreement.
.Certified copy of your passport's bio data page and perhaps your student visa page.
. A letter of confirmation from your university confirming you are duly enrolled.
. Proof of your marriage to each other, i.e marriage certificate.
. Covering letter from yourself.
. Any other documents you feel may be relevant to support the application.

Once again good luck.

Dada,

Based on the guys previous posts in which he has been touting for business
here I am 101% sure he is a visa agent.

Anyway I digress. Here is a link to the form your wife needs to complete.

http://www.fco.gov.uk/Files/kfile/VAF1Oct06,3.pdf

Good luck.

Don't hesitate to ask if you require more information, and by the way my services are free.

Dada 77

Your wife should be able to join you as a spouse of a student.
As you correctly pointed out English1 and Loverbwoy are incorrect.

In order for your wife to join you both of you must meet the requirements
of the immigration rules. These include:
. Being able to accommodate and maintain her without recourse to public funds.
. Must leave at the end of your studies.

She may also be permitted to work in certain circumstances.

You state that you are a masters degree student, I really can't see
why you cannot pursue the application for yourself without involving
the expense of a visa agent. The application is not rocket science.

Sorry to pour sand, sand for your gari Vikiviko.

@Ruky

You posed the question, but what do you think Ruky?

Looking at your beautiful profile pic I'm sure you have
never farted in your life yet alone in front of someone.
Anyway click on the thread below for my views and many
others on this most important issue.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-16863.0.html

Benin City.

I have never seen such a dirty, run down and dilapidated so called city in my life.